Capitalism is NOT Democratic: Democracy is NOT Capitalist

[Toddsterpatriot]

he wants to be in chains and tied up in a three foot cell all day.

His proof that capitalism doesn't work is the fact that he's been a failure his entire life.

 

[Rambunctious]

In case it slipped your memory, Biden won an election last year and that's called democracy.
Democracy is wonderful if it works in your favour. If not, we end up bitter and twisted like you because Lord trump was chucked out by it.

Joe didn't win...the election was stolen....and that's not democracy...

 

[jc456]

Joe didn't win...the election was stolen....and that's not democracy...

that's communist.

 

[dblack]

How do people calculate "value" in monopoly capitalism?

I don't what the fuck "monopoly capitalism" is supposed to mean. But, in a free market, value isn't "calculated". Value is subjective. Depends entirely on who's evaluating.

 

[dblack]

Socialists wouldn't waste their time watch propaganda like "Price is Right" even without commercials filled with useless eaters willing to say anything they are paid to say..

mkay.

 

[georgephillip]

Fewer out of wedlock births, fewer dropouts, fewer felonies.

Is it any wonder they have more wealth?

Less redlining.
Fewer pleas bargains.
No stop and frisk or DWB.
Is it any wonder white supremacy works for those too timid to compete on level, heavily regulated playing fields?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Less redlining.
Fewer pleas bargains.
No stop and frisk or DWB.
Is it any wonder white supremacy works for those too timid to compete on level, heavily regulated playing fields?

Less redlining.

Black borrowers default at higher rates.
They need to bring back actual redlining.

Fewer pleas bargains.

Meh.

No stop and frisk or DWB.

I agree, we don't want to catch criminals by frisking them......durr.
Stop driving like such jackasses, you'll get pulled over less.

 

[georgephillip]

So how did the average white person "exploit" black people?

The Historical Reasons Behind the U.S. Racial Wealth Gap

"The chasm begins with slavery, which was a huge generator of wealth for White Americans.

"Slavery drove the cotton economy, which enriched not just the growers but everyone from banks to shopkeepers to insurers.

"In 2000, economist Robert S. Browne calculated that the income produced by enslaved people for their White owners prior to 1860 was between $1.4 trillion and $4.7 trillion in modern money.

"In 1865, at the conclusion of the Civil War that ended slavery, freed slaves were promised 40 acres (16 hectares) of land to build an economic future for themselves.

"But the government reneged on the deal, and Black Americans started their freed lives empty-handed"

 

[jc456]

The Historical Reasons Behind the U.S. Racial Wealth Gap

"The chasm begins with slavery, which was a huge generator of wealth for White Americans.

"Slavery drove the cotton economy, which enriched not just the growers but everyone from banks to shopkeepers to insurers.

"In 2000, economist Robert S. Browne calculated that the income produced by enslaved people for their White owners prior to 1860 was between $1.4 trillion and $4.7 trillion in modern money.

"In 1865, at the conclusion of the Civil War that ended slavery, freed slaves were promised 40 acres (16 hectares) of land to build an economic future for themselves.

"But the government reneged on the deal, and Black Americans started their freed lives empty-handed"

oh for fk sake.

 

[bripat9643]

I don't what the fuck "monopoly capitalism" is supposed to mean. But, in a free market, value isn't "calculated". Value is subjective. Depends entirely on who's evaluating.

that's always true, whether the market is free or not.

 

[georgephillip]

"Exploit" is one of those vague euphemisms that socialists like to use. They pretend it's something bad, without ever really identifying what is bad about it. It's just a wedge to sell more state control. Of everything.

Selfishly taking advantage of someone in order to PROFIT from them or otherwise benefit from them is perceived as a negative by all who don't worship racist tyrants.​

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The Historical Reasons Behind the U.S. Racial Wealth Gap

"Racial Violence​

"What little wealth Black families were able to build after the Civil War was often violently destroyed. In a massacre in 1921, mobs and police officers in Tulsa, Oklahoma burned down what was then known as Black Wall Street, obliterating $200 million in homes and businesses and displacing 10,000 Black residents.

"This was just the most egregious of many such incidents. For example, there were an estimated 16 similar massacres in 1910, and more than 30 in 1920."

 

[bripat9643]

Less redlining.
Fewer pleas bargains.
No stop and frisk or DWB.
Is it any wonder white supremacy works for those too timid to compete on level, heavily regulated playing fields?

Redlining is a commie myth.

What do plea bargains have to do with capitalism?

What do "No stop and frisk or DWB" have to do with capitalism?

You're a fucking lunatic.

 

[dblack]

Selfishly taking advantage of someone in order to PROFIT from them or otherwise benefit from them is perceived as a negative by all who don't worship racist tyrants.

Lying cocksucker.

See if you can find a single quote where I "worship racist tyrants". Notice, while you're at it, how I uniformly criticize those who do. And when you're done, come back here and beg for forgiveness. Dumbass.

 

[bripat9643]

The Historical Reasons Behind the U.S. Racial Wealth Gap

"The chasm begins with slavery, which was a huge generator of wealth for White Americans.

"Slavery drove the cotton economy, which enriched not just the growers but everyone from banks to shopkeepers to insurers.

"In 2000, economist Robert S. Browne calculated that the income produced by enslaved people for their White owners prior to 1860 was between $1.4 trillion and $4.7 trillion in modern money.

"In 1865, at the conclusion of the Civil War that ended slavery, freed slaves were promised 40 acres (16 hectares) of land to build an economic future for themselves.

"But the government reneged on the deal, and Black Americans started their freed lives empty-handed"

Robert S. Browne is a commie propagandist. He's quadruple counting the money. When northern textile mills made money weaving cloth, you don't get to count it as profit from slavery. That's a bullshit leftwing propaganda tactic.

 

[bripat9643]

Do you see any other alternatives?

No monopoly on the use of force is one alternative.

 

[bripat9643]

I agree.

Those are the characteristics of socialism, moron.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Historical Reasons Behind the U.S. Racial Wealth Gap

"The chasm begins with slavery, which was a huge generator of wealth for White Americans.

"Slavery drove the cotton economy, which enriched not just the growers but everyone from banks to shopkeepers to insurers.

"In 2000, economist Robert S. Browne calculated that the income produced by enslaved people for their White owners prior to 1860 was between $1.4 trillion and $4.7 trillion in modern money.

"In 1865, at the conclusion of the Civil War that ended slavery, freed slaves were promised 40 acres (16 hectares) of land to build an economic future for themselves.

"But the government reneged on the deal, and Black Americans started their freed lives empty-handed"

"In 2000, economist Robert S. Browne calculated that the income produced by enslaved people for their White owners prior to 1860 was between $1.4 trillion and $4.7 trillion in modern money.

And then we broke and burned all their stuff.

"In 1865, at the conclusion of the Civil War that ended slavery, freed slaves were promised 40 acres (16 hectares) of land to build an economic future for themselves.

No they weren't.

 

[georgephillip]

Even with you dragging down the white average?

"Today, owning a home is the most common way Americans hold wealth. The working class gained access to the U.S. housing market in the 1930s with the creation of the modern mortgage, a part of broader policies to restore prosperity during the Great Depression.

Black families, however, were largely left out through a practice called redlining. A federal agency called the Home Owners’ Loan Corporation assigned grades to neighborhoods based on criteria including the race and class of residents. Areas that got the lowest grade were deemed hazardous to lend to and color-coded red on maps, making it difficult for Black people to get mortgages"

The Historical Reasons Behind the U.S. Racial Wealth Gap

 

[georgephillip]

Socialists have this odd contradiction that they really won't let themselves confront: They insist that government is controlled by greedy capitalists, and in the same breath that the economy should be controlled by government.

Socialists believe the economy should work for the benefit of the majority of society instead of a small minority of "owners." Libertarians, like conservatives in general, believe the economy should primarily benefit oligarchs.

 

[georgephillip]

Who promised freed slaves 40 acres?

"After the American Civil War, newly freed Black adults were to receive 40 acres and a mule as a form of reparations for their bondage.

"Did you know that Thaddeus Stevens, a White Radical Republican, proposed that idea on this day in history? Stevens urged Congress to confiscate the estates of Confederate leaders and distribute the land back to their former slaves in 40-acre increments."

September 6, 1865: Do We Deserve Reparations? | How We Buy Black