Capitalism is NOT Democratic: Democracy is NOT Capitalist

[georgephillip]

Wrong again, moron.

Capitalism and white supremacy were born together.
MAGA yet?

 

[georgephillip]

our free to go elsewhere if you don't like what you're paid.

Where you will find the same exploitation, Bitch.

 

[danielpalos]

Capitalism and white supremacy were born together.
MAGA yet?

Just right-wingers preferring to find ways to criminalize poverty due to their "hate on the Poor".

 

[dblack]

"Economic Democracy is a philosophy and school of thought that is closely related to and overlaps with libertarian socailism, particulary mutualism.

"Economic Democracy argues that capitalism fails to meet its stated goals, which can only be fixed through abolishing various economic hierarchies (notably in the workplace and finance) and creating democratic economic organisations.

"This is to be done with the creation of co-operatives (mainly worker, consumer and financial) financial reform, legal reintroduction of the commons and universal basic income."

If your government (or your "co-operative") controls your income, they control you. Completely and totally.

 

[georgephillip]

You mean socialism and slavery are blood relatives

I mean white supremacy and slavery come from the same Big Lie.

Mammon and his Slave – Art Blart

 

[struth]

Did you vote for Don the Con?
Why would anyone be that stupid?

not sure what you are talking about

only stupid people would vote for hyperinflation xiden

 

[georgephillip]

um.....serfs and slaves aren't free and don't own anything....in Capitalism it's just the opposite...employees are free, and get paid, they own their wages, and a free to do what they want with them.

Capitalism divides society into two unequal groups, owners and employees.
Owners are a small minority entitled to decide what to produce, where to produce it, and how to divide any surplus which the vast majority of society (employees) produced. Employees are "free" to work elsewhere where another owner will exploit their labor.

Socialism brings democracy to the workplace where productive Americans spend a majority of their waking hours. Conservatives spent centuries defending the divine right of kings, and today conservatives make the same mistake by defending the divine right of capital.

 

[danielpalos]

not sure what you are talking about

only stupid people would vote for hyperinflation xiden

Inflation had already started with Your guy.

And, right-wingers refusing to wear masks made trying to go back to full employment more problematic.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Owners are a small minority entitled to decide what to produce, where to produce it, and how to divide any surplus which the vast majority of society (employees) produced.

You're damn right!!!

 

[georgephillip]

Indeed. They know how to run a totalitarian government properly! You must be jealous

I'm not the one defending private tyrannies.
For all its authoritarian excesses, China's government is making it very clear its billionaires will never control the government the way US billionaires own this one.
Personally if prefer this approach:

Libertarian Socialism

"Libertarian Socialism (sometimes called Socialist Libertarianism or Free Socialism) is a political philosophy that advocates for the ability of people to directly control the institutions that control them such as schools, workplaces, community and culture."

 

[georgephillip]

That's more or less what we have now.

How does the US dollar qualify as corporate script?

 

[dblack]

For all its authoritarian excesses, China's government is making it very clear its billionaires will never control the government the way US billionaires own this one.

Authoritarian excess and socialism go hand-in-hand.

Personally if prefer this approach:

Libertarian Socialism

"Libertarian Socialism (sometimes called Socialist Libertarianism or Free Socialism) is a political philosophy that advocates for the ability of people to directly control the institutions that control them such as schools, workplaces, community and culture."

Mm-hmm. And which people will "directly control" these institutions?

 

[dblack]

How does the US dollar qualify as corporate script?

It's fiat currency. The state controls how much it's worth. They use that power to devalue currency so bankers can make money and the state can steal from the population without them realizing it.

 

[struth]

Capitalism divides society into two unequal groups, owners and employees.
Owners are a small minority entitled to decide what to produce, where to produce it, and how to divide any surplus which the vast majority of society (employees) produced. Employees are "free" to work elsewhere where another owner will exploit their labor.

Socialism brings democracy to the workplace where productive Americans spend a majority of their waking hours. Conservatives spent centuries defending the divine right of kings, and today conservatives make the same mistake by defending the divine right of capital.

they aren’t unequal…employees can become owners….they are equally free to obtain whatever they want

socialism makes people equally slaves to the state. But not free to actually own the fruits of their own labor.

 

[struth]

Inflation had already started with Your guy.

And, right-wingers refusing to wear masks made trying to go back to full employment more problematic.

yeah i mean. normal inflation that always happens

not hyperinflation.

try again

 

[georgephillip]

LOL- Bitcoin removes state control of the currency for the authoritarian's toolbox. Of course leftists hate it.

Who controls Bitcoin, rich capitalists with the fastest computers.
Why would that qualify as an improvement?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I'm not the one defending private tyrannies.
For all its authoritarian excesses, China's government is making it very clear its billionaires will never control the government the way US billionaires own this one.
Personally if prefer this approach:

Libertarian Socialism

"Libertarian Socialism (sometimes called Socialist Libertarianism or Free Socialism) is a political philosophy that advocates for the ability of people to directly control the institutions that control them such as schools, workplaces, community and culture."

How many billions does Xi have?

 

[dblack]

Who controls Bitcoin, rich capitalists with the fastest computers
Why would that qualify as an improvement?

Because rich capitalists don't have the power to coerce people into doing what they want. If they do something stupid with Bitcoin, we'd just stop buying it and invest in something else. And the rich capitalists wouldn't be rich capitalists anymore.

 

[struth]

How many billions does Xi have?

i think just 1.2 billion…but let’s face it, he’s the head of the govt…he has all the wealth of China

The CCP leadership is worth billions, owns all the wealth…owns everything…the people of china own nothing…they are all equal in their slavery though

 

[danielpalos]

yeah i mean. normal inflation that always happens

not hyperinflation.

try again

Your drama over "hyperinflation" was already happening during Your guy's administration. Chip shortages are one example.