Carter Page FISA Warrant Perfectly Legal

[Zorro!]

One of the most popular arguments on the right to excuse President Donald Trump from wrongdoing ahead of any findings from the Russia investigation is to claim that the investigation itself is corrupt — and these arguments typically center on the idea, with no evidence whatsoever, that the FBI lied to the judges on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court when pursuing a warrant to probe Trump’s presidential campaign.

Trump himself has made this claim on Twitter, saying that “the Trump Campaign for President was illegally being spied upon” for “the political gain of Crooked Hillary Clinton and the DNC,” and that “the DOJ, FBI and Obama Gang need to be held to account” because they “Misled the Court to provide a pretext to SPY on the Trump Team.” And he even recklessly moved to declassify sensitive documents surrounding the surveillance of former Trump campaign aide Carter Page, in the attempt to try to prove this misconduct.

But Trump is wrong. And in fact, he is so stunningly wrong that his own lawyers with the Department of Justice had to take the extraordinary step of saying, in a filing to the D.C. District Court for a Freedom of Information Act case, that Trump essentially has no idea what he’s talking about on FISA classification, and that what he says on Twitter cannot be presumed to be evidence of anything:

The idea that the FBI misled FISA judges to get a warrant against the Trump campaign has been debunked by the release of the FISA applications, revealing that there was a perfectly solid legal basis to investigate Carter Page amid his suspicious travel to Russia.

But this narrative persists among Trump’s political allies, and in the right-wing echo chamber. Outgoing House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes (R-CA) released a flimsy, partisan memo that claimed to prove FISA wrongdoing. Meanwhile, right-wing commentators like Sean Hannity have enthusiastically called for heads to roll at the FBI over the supposed lies in FISA court.

Thus, it would seem the short form of the DOJ’s argument in this filing is: Mr. President, lay off the Fox News.

More: The US Justice Department just filed court documents arguing that Trump has no idea what he's talking about

Well, that settles that. I agree that Trump (and his base) should lay off the Fox News.

Trump's right. When the FBI lies and forges to get a warrant, the spying that results is illegal. You want to operate under the color of law, you don't lie and forge.

Serial Liar Adam Schiff Says He Has No Sympathy For Carter Page After FBI Abused FISA Process to Spy on Him For a Year

The FBI violated Trump campaign advisor Carter Page’s Constitutional rights when they presented fabricated evidence and withheld exculpatory material from the FISC in order to obtain a total of FOUR illegal FISA warrants on Page.

DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz testified that the FBI relied “entirely” on Hillary Clinton’s phony dossier in their FISA applications, which claimed Carter Page was working on behalf of the Russian government.

None of these claims were corroborated and the FBI deliberately withheld information about the CIA’s decade-long relationship with Carter Page.

In light of Horowitz’s findings, Schiff said he has no sympathy for Carter Page.

Carter Page blasted Adam Schiff in response, calling Schiff “more untrustworthy and dangerous” than FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith who Horowitz referred for criminal investigation after he altered an email about Page.

 

[Zorro!]

One of the most popular arguments on the right to excuse President Donald Trump from wrongdoing ahead of any findings from the Russia investigation is to claim that the investigation itself is corrupt — and these arguments typically center on the idea, with no evidence whatsoever, that the FBI lied to the judges on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court when pursuing a warrant to probe Trump’s presidential campaign.

Trump himself has made this claim on Twitter, saying that “the Trump Campaign for President was illegally being spied upon” for “the political gain of Crooked Hillary Clinton and the DNC,” and that “the DOJ, FBI and Obama Gang need to be held to account” because they “Misled the Court to provide a pretext to SPY on the Trump Team.” And he even recklessly moved to declassify sensitive documents surrounding the surveillance of former Trump campaign aide Carter Page, in the attempt to try to prove this misconduct.

But Trump is wrong. And in fact, he is so stunningly wrong that his own lawyers with the Department of Justice had to take the extraordinary step of saying, in a filing to the D.C. District Court for a Freedom of Information Act case, that Trump essentially has no idea what he’s talking about on FISA classification, and that what he says on Twitter cannot be presumed to be evidence of anything:

The idea that the FBI misled FISA judges to get a warrant against the Trump campaign has been debunked by the release of the FISA applications, revealing that there was a perfectly solid legal basis to investigate Carter Page amid his suspicious travel to Russia.

But this narrative persists among Trump’s political allies, and in the right-wing echo chamber. Outgoing House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes (R-CA) released a flimsy, partisan memo that claimed to prove FISA wrongdoing. Meanwhile, right-wing commentators like Sean Hannity have enthusiastically called for heads to roll at the FBI over the supposed lies in FISA court.

Thus, it would seem the short form of the DOJ’s argument in this filing is: Mr. President, lay off the Fox News.

More: The US Justice Department just filed court documents arguing that Trump has no idea what he's talking about

Well, that settles that. I agree that Trump (and his base) should lay off the Fox News.

The FBI committed FORGERY, that's not "legal". And when they lied, concealed and forged, the spying that resulted was illegal.

Every Foreign Intelligence Service Knew within 24 Hours Trump-Russia Collusion was Bogus Story

The international community immediately knew the Russia-collusion narrative was a hoax and didn’t need two years to investigate this sham.

If you’re the president of China or president of France you can’t wait two years for the Mueller report. You have your own secret service, there’s 120 intelligence services in the world. Everyone of them checked this out. They knew within 24 hours that this was a bogus story. The future of their country depended on knowing that. So this has kind of lingered on a little too long.

 

[easyt65]

In light of Horowitz’s findings, Schiff said he has no sympathy for Carter Page.

Gee, the Democrat scumbag who admitted leaking sensitive information....who has been exposed for taking large amounts of cash from Russian-born arms dealers and Burisma officials.....who committed Sedition for 2 years by intentionally knowingly lied about personally having evidence of crimes committed by the President...who attempted to pass off personally authored fictional account of the President's phone transcripts as 'legitimate' evidence - an attempt to manufacture / submit false evidence to remove the US President from office ..... who has no shame or sense of moral decency and evidently no fear of ever being held accountable for his misconduct and crime ... declaring he has no sympathy for the man whose life he helped destroy because of his own mentally unstable hatred for the President...

Go figure.

 

[MAGAman]

Just quote where the IG said the Carter Page FISA warrants were "illegal".

An IG can't prosecute and has limited ability to investigate.

He pointed out 17 illegal acts including submitting a dossier that the FBI knew for a fact was fals. That dossier being necessary to get the secret warrant.

You and DragLady keep thinking you're in NAZI Germany.

This is America where that shit is illegal.

 

[Zorro!]

Just quote where the IG said the Carter Page FISA warrants were "illegal".

An IG can't prosecute and has limited ability to investigate.

He pointed out 17 illegal acts including submitting a dossier that the FBI knew for a fact was fals. That dossier being necessary to get the secret warrant.

You and DragLady keep thinking you're in NAZI Germany.

This is America where that shit is illegal.

It's obvious on the face of it, that in order to operate under the color of law, one must operate in accordance with the law! You can't submit lies and a forgery and launder them into "truth" and "legality" simply because you trick a judge into unknowingly approving your lies.

I frankly don't believe the Left is even confused on this point.

IG Horowitz Says FISA Surveillance Without Legal Foundation Is ‘Illegal Surveillance’

IG Horowitz Says FISA Surveillance Without Legal Foundation Is 'Illegal Surveillance'

 

[easyt65]

Where the wheel came off the proverbial wagon is the point where Hillary LOST! Not for one second did they believe Hillary was going to lose and that any of this would be exposed to the world.

We saw the photos of Hillary supporters openly weeping at the news she lost. What we didn't see was all of those involved in this conspiracy against Trump to get Hillary elected crapping themselves as the realization that the guy they just attempted to screw would be their new boss and their actions could very well one day wind up where it is today.

 

[lennypartiv]

Did the IG say the FISA warrants were illegal? If so - please provide a "credible" source.
Regardless, the whole Carter Page saga is irrelevant to Trump's impeachment. His Ukraine bribery/extortion for personal political gain got him impeached.

It's obvious the Deep State felt they were above the law.

 

[The Original Tree]

Just another lie. This is why The IG wrote a 400 page rebuke of the traitors who submitted false affidavits to FISA & why FISA ordered Comey & The FBI to Explain themselves or experience some very punitive measures coming down the road.

One of the most popular arguments on the right to excuse President Donald Trump from wrongdoing ahead of any findings from the Russia investigation is to claim that the investigation itself is corrupt — and these arguments typically center on the idea, with no evidence whatsoever, that the FBI lied to the judges on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court when pursuing a warrant to probe Trump’s presidential campaign.

Trump himself has made this claim on Twitter, saying that “the Trump Campaign for President was illegally being spied upon” for “the political gain of Crooked Hillary Clinton and the DNC,” and that “the DOJ, FBI and Obama Gang need to be held to account” because they “Misled the Court to provide a pretext to SPY on the Trump Team.” And he even recklessly moved to declassify sensitive documents surrounding the surveillance of former Trump campaign aide Carter Page, in the attempt to try to prove this misconduct.

But Trump is wrong. And in fact, he is so stunningly wrong that his own lawyers with the Department of Justice had to take the extraordinary step of saying, in a filing to the D.C. District Court for a Freedom of Information Act case, that Trump essentially has no idea what he’s talking about on FISA classification, and that what he says on Twitter cannot be presumed to be evidence of anything:

The idea that the FBI misled FISA judges to get a warrant against the Trump campaign has been debunked by the release of the FISA applications, revealing that there was a perfectly solid legal basis to investigate Carter Page amid his suspicious travel to Russia.

But this narrative persists among Trump’s political allies, and in the right-wing echo chamber. Outgoing House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes (R-CA) released a flimsy, partisan memo that claimed to prove FISA wrongdoing. Meanwhile, right-wing commentators like Sean Hannity have enthusiastically called for heads to roll at the FBI over the supposed lies in FISA court.

Thus, it would seem the short form of the DOJ’s argument in this filing is: Mr. President, lay off the Fox News.

More: The US Justice Department just filed court documents arguing that Trump has no idea what he's talking about

Well, that settles that. I agree that Trump (and his base) should lay off the Fox News.

 

[Zorro!]

Did the IG say the FISA warrants were illegal? If so - please provide a "credible" source.
Regardless, the whole Carter Page saga is irrelevant to Trump's impeachment. His Ukraine bribery/extortion for personal political gain got him impeached.

It's obvious the Deep State felt they were above the law.

We have a duty as a Free People to prove them wrong, but as of now, we have not proven them wrong at all.

 

[Zorro!]

One of the most popular arguments on the right to excuse President Donald Trump from wrongdoing ahead of any findings from the Russia investigation is to claim that the investigation itself is corrupt — and these arguments typically center on the idea, with no evidence whatsoever, that the FBI lied to the judges on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court when pursuing a warrant to probe Trump’s presidential campaign.

Trump himself has made this claim on Twitter, saying that “the Trump Campaign for President was illegally being spied upon” for “the political gain of Crooked Hillary Clinton and the DNC,” and that “the DOJ, FBI and Obama Gang need to be held to account” because they “Misled the Court to provide a pretext to SPY on the Trump Team.” And he even recklessly moved to declassify sensitive documents surrounding the surveillance of former Trump campaign aide Carter Page, in the attempt to try to prove this misconduct.

But Trump is wrong. And in fact, he is so stunningly wrong that his own lawyers with the Department of Justice had to take the extraordinary step of saying, in a filing to the D.C. District Court for a Freedom of Information Act case, that Trump essentially has no idea what he’s talking about on FISA classification, and that what he says on Twitter cannot be presumed to be evidence of anything:

The idea that the FBI misled FISA judges to get a warrant against the Trump campaign has been debunked by the release of the FISA applications, revealing that there was a perfectly solid legal basis to investigate Carter Page amid his suspicious travel to Russia.

But this narrative persists among Trump’s political allies, and in the right-wing echo chamber. Outgoing House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes (R-CA) released a flimsy, partisan memo that claimed to prove FISA wrongdoing. Meanwhile, right-wing commentators like Sean Hannity have enthusiastically called for heads to roll at the FBI over the supposed lies in FISA court.

Thus, it would seem the short form of the DOJ’s argument in this filing is: Mr. President, lay off the Fox News.

More: The US Justice Department just filed court documents arguing that Trump has no idea what he's talking about

Well, that settles that. I agree that Trump (and his base) should lay off the Fox News.

FISC has admitted that two of the renewals were illegal without defending any of the four. The report on the first two is still pending.

BOOM: Carter Page Sues DNC Over Bogus Steele Dossier: ‘This Is Only the First Salvo.’

Thursday morning former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page filed a lawsuit in federal court against the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the law firm Perkins Coie for their role in funding the unverified Russian Steele dossier that was used to justify surveillance against him.

Page's attorneys described the suit, which was filed in U.S. District Court in the Northern District of Illinois’ Eastern Division on Thursday, as the “first of multiple actions in the wake of historic” Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) abuse.

“This is a first step to ensure that the full extent of the FISA abuse that has occurred during the last few years is exposed and remedied,” Page's attorney John Pierce told Fox News. “Defendants and those they worked with inside the federal government did not and will not succeed in making America a surveillance state.”

Inspector General Michael Horowitz confirmed that the FBI’s FISA applications to surveil Page relied on the dossier. He also verified that an FBI lawyer altered evidence to make Carter Page appear to be a Russian agent instead of a CIA source. It wouldn't be surprising in the least if Page files a suit against Obama administration officials and others in the FBI as well.

The DNC, Hillary's Legal Firm Perkins Coie and partners Marc Elias and Michael Sussman

“used false information, misrepresentations and other misconduct to direct the power of the international intelligence apparatus and the media industry against” Page “to further their political agenda.”​

 

[Billiejeens]

hey dufuss the FISA just issued a very public rebuke of the fbi
care to comment/???

Did they said it was "illegal"?

That's like saying if a cop catches me stealing and sez I stole a dime when I really stole a nickel the cops wrong.

Just quote where the IG said the Carter Page FISA warrants were "illegal".

The IG said there was serious misconduct, he made one criminal referral and said he would leave it to the DOJ for further determination. You didn't watch his testimony, did ya?

.

Even though mistakes were made - where did the IG say the FISA warrants were "illegal".

OMG
Give it the fuck up, moron.

 

[The Original Tree]

He’s trying to lobby for a job as an Axe Man with Bernie!
Project Veritas: Sanders Campaign Staffer in S.C. Wants to Put Republicans in Gulags, 'Guillotine the rich'

Did they said it was "illegal"?

That's like saying if a cop catches me stealing and sez I stole a dime when I really stole a nickel the cops wrong.

Just quote where the IG said the Carter Page FISA warrants were "illegal".

The IG said there was serious misconduct, he made one criminal referral and said he would leave it to the DOJ for further determination. You didn't watch his testimony, did ya?

.

Even though mistakes were made - where did the IG say the FISA warrants were "illegal".

OMG
Give it the fuck up, moron.

 

[dudmuck]

One of the most popular arguments on the right to excuse President Donald Trump from wrongdoing ahead of any findings from the Russia investigation is to claim that the investigation itself is corrupt — and these arguments typically center on the idea, with no evidence whatsoever, that the FBI lied to the judges on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court when pursuing a warrant to probe Trump’s presidential campaign.

Trump himself has made this claim on Twitter, saying that “the Trump Campaign for President was illegally being spied upon” for “the political gain of Crooked Hillary Clinton and the DNC,” and that “the DOJ, FBI and Obama Gang need to be held to account” because they “Misled the Court to provide a pretext to SPY on the Trump Team.” And he even recklessly moved to declassify sensitive documents surrounding the surveillance of former Trump campaign aide Carter Page, in the attempt to try to prove this misconduct.

But Trump is wrong. And in fact, he is so stunningly wrong that his own lawyers with the Department of Justice had to take the extraordinary step of saying, in a filing to the D.C. District Court for a Freedom of Information Act case, that Trump essentially has no idea what he’s talking about on FISA classification, and that what he says on Twitter cannot be presumed to be evidence of anything:

The idea that the FBI misled FISA judges to get a warrant against the Trump campaign has been debunked by the release of the FISA applications, revealing that there was a perfectly solid legal basis to investigate Carter Page amid his suspicious travel to Russia.

But this narrative persists among Trump’s political allies, and in the right-wing echo chamber. Outgoing House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes (R-CA) released a flimsy, partisan memo that claimed to prove FISA wrongdoing. Meanwhile, right-wing commentators like Sean Hannity have enthusiastically called for heads to roll at the FBI over the supposed lies in FISA court.

Thus, it would seem the short form of the DOJ’s argument in this filing is: Mr. President, lay off the Fox News.

More: The US Justice Department just filed court documents arguing that Trump has no idea what he's talking about

Well, that settles that. I agree that Trump (and his base) should lay off the Fox News.

FISC has admitted that two of the renewals were illegal without defending any of the four. The report on the first two is still pending.

BOOM: Carter Page Sues DNC Over Bogus Steele Dossier: ‘This Is Only the First Salvo.’

Thursday morning former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page filed a lawsuit in federal court against the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the law firm Perkins Coie for their role in funding the unverified Russian Steele dossier that was used to justify surveillance against him.

Page's attorneys described the suit, which was filed in U.S. District Court in the Northern District of Illinois’ Eastern Division on Thursday, as the “first of multiple actions in the wake of historic” Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) abuse.

“This is a first step to ensure that the full extent of the FISA abuse that has occurred during the last few years is exposed and remedied,” Page's attorney John Pierce told Fox News. “Defendants and those they worked with inside the federal government did not and will not succeed in making America a surveillance state.”

Inspector General Michael Horowitz confirmed that the FBI’s FISA applications to surveil Page relied on the dossier. He also verified that an FBI lawyer altered evidence to make Carter Page appear to be a Russian agent instead of a CIA source. It wouldn't be surprising in the least if Page files a suit against Obama administration officials and others in the FBI as well.

The DNC, Hillary's Legal Firm Perkins Coie and partners Marc Elias and Michael Sussman

“used false information, misrepresentations and other misconduct to direct the power of the international intelligence apparatus and the media industry against” Page “to further their political agenda.”​

Carter Page did that more than a year ago.
Nothing came of it.
And is now doing it again for what purpose?

 

[Zorro!]

Did they said it was "illegal"?

That's like saying if a cop catches me stealing and sez I stole a dime when I really stole a nickel the cops wrong.

Just quote where the IG said the Carter Page FISA warrants were "illegal".

The IG said there was serious misconduct, he made one criminal referral and said he would leave it to the DOJ for further determination. You didn't watch his testimony, did ya?

.

Even though mistakes were made - where did the IG say the FISA warrants were "illegal".

OMG
Give it the fuck up, moron.

When you lie conceal and forge to get a warrant, the warrant you got is illegal as is the spying that results. I love the way they try to pretend that this isn't painfully obvious.

They fool no one!

 

[Zorro!]

One of the most popular arguments on the right to excuse President Donald Trump from wrongdoing ahead of any findings from the Russia investigation is to claim that the investigation itself is corrupt — and these arguments typically center on the idea, with no evidence whatsoever, that the FBI lied to the judges on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court when pursuing a warrant to probe Trump’s presidential campaign.

Trump himself has made this claim on Twitter, saying that “the Trump Campaign for President was illegally being spied upon” for “the political gain of Crooked Hillary Clinton and the DNC,” and that “the DOJ, FBI and Obama Gang need to be held to account” because they “Misled the Court to provide a pretext to SPY on the Trump Team.” And he even recklessly moved to declassify sensitive documents surrounding the surveillance of former Trump campaign aide Carter Page, in the attempt to try to prove this misconduct.

But Trump is wrong. And in fact, he is so stunningly wrong that his own lawyers with the Department of Justice had to take the extraordinary step of saying, in a filing to the D.C. District Court for a Freedom of Information Act case, that Trump essentially has no idea what he’s talking about on FISA classification, and that what he says on Twitter cannot be presumed to be evidence of anything:

The idea that the FBI misled FISA judges to get a warrant against the Trump campaign has been debunked by the release of the FISA applications, revealing that there was a perfectly solid legal basis to investigate Carter Page amid his suspicious travel to Russia.

But this narrative persists among Trump’s political allies, and in the right-wing echo chamber. Outgoing House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes (R-CA) released a flimsy, partisan memo that claimed to prove FISA wrongdoing. Meanwhile, right-wing commentators like Sean Hannity have enthusiastically called for heads to roll at the FBI over the supposed lies in FISA court.

Thus, it would seem the short form of the DOJ’s argument in this filing is: Mr. President, lay off the Fox News.

More: The US Justice Department just filed court documents arguing that Trump has no idea what he's talking about

Well, that settles that. I agree that Trump (and his base) should lay off the Fox News.

FISC has admitted that two of the renewals were illegal without defending any of the four. The report on the first two is still pending.

BOOM: Carter Page Sues DNC Over Bogus Steele Dossier: ‘This Is Only the First Salvo.’

Thursday morning former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page filed a lawsuit in federal court against the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the law firm Perkins Coie for their role in funding the unverified Russian Steele dossier that was used to justify surveillance against him.

Page's attorneys described the suit, which was filed in U.S. District Court in the Northern District of Illinois’ Eastern Division on Thursday, as the “first of multiple actions in the wake of historic” Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) abuse.

“This is a first step to ensure that the full extent of the FISA abuse that has occurred during the last few years is exposed and remedied,” Page's attorney John Pierce told Fox News. “Defendants and those they worked with inside the federal government did not and will not succeed in making America a surveillance state.”

Inspector General Michael Horowitz confirmed that the FBI’s FISA applications to surveil Page relied on the dossier. He also verified that an FBI lawyer altered evidence to make Carter Page appear to be a Russian agent instead of a CIA source. It wouldn't be surprising in the least if Page files a suit against Obama administration officials and others in the FBI as well.

The DNC, Hillary's Legal Firm Perkins Coie and partners Marc Elias and Michael Sussman

“used false information, misrepresentations and other misconduct to direct the power of the international intelligence apparatus and the media industry against” Page “to further their political agenda.”​

Carter Page did that more than a year ago.
Nothing came of it.
And is now doing it again for what purpose?

Last week, it was revealed that two FISA warrants against Page were deemed "not valid" because they lacked probable cause.

 

[easyt65]

Yeah, the thread turned out to be as wrong as the FBI' illegal spying on Page.

 

[Zorro!]

Not the only pack of lies and abuse of power that came out of the Obama Administration:

Feds Back Off Jailing Michael Flynn After Stunning New Evidence That Gov’t ‘Lied’ and ‘Framed’ Him.

The government lied, "framed," hid favorable evidence, and showed "contempt for the law at every turn" in their treatment of Michael Flynn, the retired three-star Army general and former Trump White House national security adviser.

Those charges were contained in a new filing in the government's case against Flynn. And his attorney, Sidney Powell, was just getting started.

In the 27-page-filing, an add-on to her previous motions, Powell demanded charges be dropped against Flynn based on previously withheld exculpatory documents by the government and the IG report on FISA abuse.

The net result was that federal prosecutors publicly considered, for the first time, that Flynn would get no jail time and instead be put on probation for his previous guilty plea in what we now know was the beginning of the FBI's "Crossfire Hurricane" operation against the Trump White House.

Powell asserted that Flynn was innocent, claiming the "IG Report is replete with exculpatory information that, had it been know to Mr. Flynn, he never would have pled guilty."

 

[dudmuck]

One of the most popular arguments on the right to excuse President Donald Trump from wrongdoing ahead of any findings from the Russia investigation is to claim that the investigation itself is corrupt — and these arguments typically center on the idea, with no evidence whatsoever, that the FBI lied to the judges on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court when pursuing a warrant to probe Trump’s presidential campaign.

Trump himself has made this claim on Twitter, saying that “the Trump Campaign for President was illegally being spied upon” for “the political gain of Crooked Hillary Clinton and the DNC,” and that “the DOJ, FBI and Obama Gang need to be held to account” because they “Misled the Court to provide a pretext to SPY on the Trump Team.” And he even recklessly moved to declassify sensitive documents surrounding the surveillance of former Trump campaign aide Carter Page, in the attempt to try to prove this misconduct.

But Trump is wrong. And in fact, he is so stunningly wrong that his own lawyers with the Department of Justice had to take the extraordinary step of saying, in a filing to the D.C. District Court for a Freedom of Information Act case, that Trump essentially has no idea what he’s talking about on FISA classification, and that what he says on Twitter cannot be presumed to be evidence of anything:

The idea that the FBI misled FISA judges to get a warrant against the Trump campaign has been debunked by the release of the FISA applications, revealing that there was a perfectly solid legal basis to investigate Carter Page amid his suspicious travel to Russia.

But this narrative persists among Trump’s political allies, and in the right-wing echo chamber. Outgoing House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes (R-CA) released a flimsy, partisan memo that claimed to prove FISA wrongdoing. Meanwhile, right-wing commentators like Sean Hannity have enthusiastically called for heads to roll at the FBI over the supposed lies in FISA court.

Thus, it would seem the short form of the DOJ’s argument in this filing is: Mr. President, lay off the Fox News.

More: The US Justice Department just filed court documents arguing that Trump has no idea what he's talking about

Well, that settles that. I agree that Trump (and his base) should lay off the Fox News.

FISC has admitted that two of the renewals were illegal without defending any of the four. The report on the first two is still pending.

BOOM: Carter Page Sues DNC Over Bogus Steele Dossier: ‘This Is Only the First Salvo.’

Thursday morning former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page filed a lawsuit in federal court against the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the law firm Perkins Coie for their role in funding the unverified Russian Steele dossier that was used to justify surveillance against him.

Page's attorneys described the suit, which was filed in U.S. District Court in the Northern District of Illinois’ Eastern Division on Thursday, as the “first of multiple actions in the wake of historic” Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) abuse.

“This is a first step to ensure that the full extent of the FISA abuse that has occurred during the last few years is exposed and remedied,” Page's attorney John Pierce told Fox News. “Defendants and those they worked with inside the federal government did not and will not succeed in making America a surveillance state.”

Inspector General Michael Horowitz confirmed that the FBI’s FISA applications to surveil Page relied on the dossier. He also verified that an FBI lawyer altered evidence to make Carter Page appear to be a Russian agent instead of a CIA source. It wouldn't be surprising in the least if Page files a suit against Obama administration officials and others in the FBI as well.

The DNC, Hillary's Legal Firm Perkins Coie and partners Marc Elias and Michael Sussman

“used false information, misrepresentations and other misconduct to direct the power of the international intelligence apparatus and the media industry against” Page “to further their political agenda.”​

Carter Page did that more than a year ago.
Nothing came of it.
And is now doing it again for what purpose?

Last week, it was revealed that two FISA warrants against Page were deemed "not valid" because they lacked probable cause.

The same DOJ that thinks the Mueller investigation was not valid?

The same DOJ that considers the impeachment articles not valid?

The same DOJ that "misrepresented" the Special Counsel investigation?

Why believe Barr's compromised DOJ?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

There were apparently errors in the FISA warrants - but I've never heard they were "illegal".

Yeah...errors that would have gotten the requests denied had they been truthful.

"illegal" is a technical term.

Lying is moral one.

The people who falsified those requests were liars, hence they were immoral.

 

[Zorro!]

One of the most popular arguments on the right to excuse President Donald Trump from wrongdoing ahead of any findings from the Russia investigation is to claim that the investigation itself is corrupt — and these arguments typically center on the idea, with no evidence whatsoever, that the FBI lied to the judges on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court when pursuing a warrant to probe Trump’s presidential campaign.

Trump himself has made this claim on Twitter, saying that “the Trump Campaign for President was illegally being spied upon” for “the political gain of Crooked Hillary Clinton and the DNC,” and that “the DOJ, FBI and Obama Gang need to be held to account” because they “Misled the Court to provide a pretext to SPY on the Trump Team.” And he even recklessly moved to declassify sensitive documents surrounding the surveillance of former Trump campaign aide Carter Page, in the attempt to try to prove this misconduct.

But Trump is wrong. And in fact, he is so stunningly wrong that his own lawyers with the Department of Justice had to take the extraordinary step of saying, in a filing to the D.C. District Court for a Freedom of Information Act case, that Trump essentially has no idea what he’s talking about on FISA classification, and that what he says on Twitter cannot be presumed to be evidence of anything:

The idea that the FBI misled FISA judges to get a warrant against the Trump campaign has been debunked by the release of the FISA applications, revealing that there was a perfectly solid legal basis to investigate Carter Page amid his suspicious travel to Russia.

But this narrative persists among Trump’s political allies, and in the right-wing echo chamber. Outgoing House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes (R-CA) released a flimsy, partisan memo that claimed to prove FISA wrongdoing. Meanwhile, right-wing commentators like Sean Hannity have enthusiastically called for heads to roll at the FBI over the supposed lies in FISA court.

Thus, it would seem the short form of the DOJ’s argument in this filing is: Mr. President, lay off the Fox News.

More: The US Justice Department just filed court documents arguing that Trump has no idea what he's talking about

Well, that settles that. I agree that Trump (and his base) should lay off the Fox News.

FISC has admitted that two of the renewals were illegal without defending any of the four. The report on the first two is still pending.

BOOM: Carter Page Sues DNC Over Bogus Steele Dossier: ‘This Is Only the First Salvo.’

Thursday morning former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page filed a lawsuit in federal court against the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the law firm Perkins Coie for their role in funding the unverified Russian Steele dossier that was used to justify surveillance against him.

Page's attorneys described the suit, which was filed in U.S. District Court in the Northern District of Illinois’ Eastern Division on Thursday, as the “first of multiple actions in the wake of historic” Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) abuse.

“This is a first step to ensure that the full extent of the FISA abuse that has occurred during the last few years is exposed and remedied,” Page's attorney John Pierce told Fox News. “Defendants and those they worked with inside the federal government did not and will not succeed in making America a surveillance state.”

Inspector General Michael Horowitz confirmed that the FBI’s FISA applications to surveil Page relied on the dossier. He also verified that an FBI lawyer altered evidence to make Carter Page appear to be a Russian agent instead of a CIA source. It wouldn't be surprising in the least if Page files a suit against Obama administration officials and others in the FBI as well.

The DNC, Hillary's Legal Firm Perkins Coie and partners Marc Elias and Michael Sussman

“used false information, misrepresentations and other misconduct to direct the power of the international intelligence apparatus and the media industry against” Page “to further their political agenda.”​

Carter Page did that more than a year ago.
Nothing came of it.
And is now doing it again for what purpose?

Last week, it was revealed that two FISA warrants against Page were deemed "not valid" because they lacked probable cause.

The same DOJ that thinks the Mueller investigation was not valid?

The same DOJ that considers the impeachment articles not valid?

The same DOJ that "misrepresented" the Special Counsel investigation?

Why believe Barr's compromised DOJ?

No, the FISA Court said that the warrants were invalid.

You may read the order from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) here:

FISC Declassifed Order 16-1182 17-52 17-375 17-679 200123

Judge James Boasberg, the current federal judge presiding over the FISA court, wrote in his order that at least two of the four FISA applications against Carter Page were unlawfully authorized.

Additionally, according to his order, the Department of Justice similarly concluded following the release of a sprawling investigate [sic] report on the matter by the agency’s inspector general that the government did not have probable cause that Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power.

We have been telling you that years, now.

Hysterical Denials Aside, These are firm facts of the Historical Record

Review of Four FISA Applications and Other Aspects of the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane Investigation