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That's a bad thing?
For Crist? Who knows?
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That's a bad thing?
But I am with you as to Obama not making it to even campaign for POTUS in 2012...He will be Impeached before then for what he's been doing by skirting/violating the Constitution in the first place.
*Time will Tell*
I never thought of him as a "solid Republican" in the first place.
The way I see it though is that the Republican Party turned its back on him when he thankfully vetoed the teacher's pay law.
He didn't agree with it (and I agree with him) so he vetoed it and they had a shit fit and started talking up Rubio. Before he did that it was basically... Rubio who? Now Rubio is all they seem to want to talk about.
Immie
I never thought of him as a "solid Republican" in the first place.
The way I see it though is that the Republican Party turned its back on him when he thankfully vetoed the teacher's pay law.
He didn't agree with it (and I agree with him) so he vetoed it and they had a shit fit and started talking up Rubio. Before he did that it was basically... Rubio who? Now Rubio is all they seem to want to talk about.
Immie
You know, the dialogue on this one reminds of the special election in New York more and more. The whole "They were never really a Republican anyways!", the three party split....
The only advantage Rubio has here is that he's got the GOP machinery behind him. Even with that a three way race, where Crist is likely to stip off all your moderate and independent voters, is very difficult to win.
His donors should sue him for fraud
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Gee, what happened to "you vote for the person, not the party", Teabaggers?
I'm not quite sure what you mean by your first sentence.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by your first sentence.
What I meant is that in the New York special election, which was supposed to be an easy pick up for the GOP, a lot of the justification for splitting the ticket was because the GOP nominee was seen as a "politician" and not a "real Conservative." People got all worked up and in the end, the vote was split.
For the GOP, that's the danger here. Crist is starting the General Election race now with an edge in the moderates and independents, a voting block that is necessary for victory in American politics. If Rubio runs to the Right to prove he's a true Conservative, he's going to find himself in a losing position.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by your first sentence.
What I meant is that in the New York special election, which was supposed to be an easy pick up for the GOP, a lot of the justification for splitting the ticket was because the GOP nominee was seen as a "politician" and not a "real Conservative." People got all worked up and in the end, the vote was split.
For the GOP, that's the danger here. Crist is starting the General Election race now with an edge in the moderates and independents, a voting block that is necessary for victory in American politics. If Rubio runs to the Right to prove he's a true Conservative, he's going to find himself in a losing position.
I understand better now.
Can I safely point to the Bush and McCain cases too?
A lot of Conservatives/Republicans (me as well) started saying that Bush wasn't really a conservative and that McCain definitely was not a conservative. I think that may very well have turned a lot of voters away from McCain in 2008. Maybe not enough to change the election, but it might have.
Immie
Crist has no chance, none. He's finito.
He's only doing this because Obama put him up to it.
If the gay fluffer thing pans out for Crist, Obama will hire him as the Ambassador to Fredrick's of Hollywood
Crist has no chance, none. He's finito.
He's only doing this because Obama put him up to it.
If the gay fluffer thing pans out for Crist, Obama will hire him as the Ambassador to Fredrick's of Hollywood
once again you show absolutely no political acumen.
crist is the only one of the three candidates with statewide experience. and in a place like florida, with six separate media outlets, that is huge.
you're also discouting the fact that he has almost a 60% approval rating as governor. i'll assume for sake of argument that a goodly portion of the other 40% are rightwing repubs who will vote for rubio and would never have voted for crist in any event.
will crist win?? it's too early to say. but don't underestimate his popularity with independent voters. there's also no way to tell yet if he's going to pick off votes from the dem side or the repub side. as of right now, it looks like he's going to split the vote
oh...and it should also be noted that a self-financed billionaire dem just entered the race and there's no telling what that will do to the equation.
Crist has no chance, none. He's finito.
He's only doing this because Obama put him up to it.
If the gay fluffer thing pans out for Crist, Obama will hire him as the Ambassador to Fredrick's of Hollywood
once again you show absolutely no political acumen.
crist is the only one of the three candidates with statewide experience. and in a place like florida, with six separate media outlets, that is huge.
you're also discouting the fact that he has almost a 60% approval rating as governor. i'll assume for sake of argument that a goodly portion of the other 40% are rightwing repubs who will vote for rubio and would never have voted for crist in any event.
will crist win?? it's too early to say. but don't underestimate his popularity with independent voters. there's also no way to tell yet if he's going to pick off votes from the dem side or the repub side. as of right now, it looks like he's going to split the vote
oh...and it should also be noted that a self-financed billionaire dem just entered the race and there's no telling what that will do to the equation.
Who pitches? Who catches?
Yes, because this is so 2006. Follow the dynamics NYcarbineer.
Well, if you're so fucking smart, then why don't YOU tell US what the material differences are between
2006 - Joe Lieberman loses primary and runs as Independent.
2010 - Charlie Crist loses primary and runs as Independent.
List the material differences, material as in making it un-hypocritical for the right to cheer Lieberman and yet excoriate Crist.
Go!!!
Crist first call was to Rahm Emanuel
Well, if you're so fucking smart, then why don't YOU tell US what the material differences are between
2006 - Joe Lieberman loses primary and runs as Independent.
2010 - Charlie Crist loses primary and runs as Independent.
List the material differences, material as in making it un-hypocritical for the right to cheer Lieberman and yet excoriate Crist.
Go!!!
Crist first call was to Rahm Emanuel
So you say.
Crist called Rahm - The Hill's Ballot BoxCrist called Rahm
By Eric Zimmermann - 04/29/10 02:20 PM ET
Charlie Crist tried to contact Rahm Emanuel as he made his decision to become an independent, Marc Ambinder reports:
Charlie Crist, soon to be independent Senate candidate from Florida, tried to reach White House chief of staff Emanuel through intermediates. WH refuses to take the call. Dems plan big talent/money blitz for Kendrick Meek. BTW: Obama's approval rating in FL is in high 40s, per internal Dem polling.