Child bride in Yemen dies of internal bleeding on wedding night: activist

[Coyote]

Why does islam allow rape and harm to children?

It doesn't.

 

[Coyote]

That's right, change the subject. SherriM must be rubbing off on you.

The subject of the thread is not Muhammad.

Nor is it incest. It's child rape, and the one person who is notorious for that practice is Muhammad.

You have some odd definitions of notorious. Someone like William Gacy, who raped and killed upwards of 33 boys could be considered "notorious". On the other hand a historical figure who existed over a millinium ago, who's history was largely written long after death, who lived in a culture where the age of marriage for women was 12-14, and who's fourth wife may or may not have been a child (depends on which Hadith) -- is..."notorious".

 

[Coyote]

Aisha didn't suffer on her wedding night. Conservatives like to claim she was between the ages of six and nine when she had sex, but its more likely that she was a teenager - around the age of fourteen.

And you base that on what? Are you not willing to entertain the possibility that the "prophet" Muhammad might have been a pervert?

If you had been reading this thread you would see that links have been provided upon which this was based.

 

[Coyote]

"That's right, change the subject. SherriM must be rubbing off on you."

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The subject is, actually child marriage. Some want to make it about Mohammed.

 

[MHunterB]

"That's right, change the subject. SherriM must be rubbing off on you."

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The subject is, actually child marriage. Some want to make it about Mohammed.

Yes, you'd think this would be a no-brainer.......but then so are some posters, one has learned. Perhaps the zombies got them in their sleep?

 

[Hollie]

"That's right, change the subject. SherriM must be rubbing off on you."

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The subject is, actually child marriage. Some want to make it about Mohammed.

It is about muhammud (swish).

The allowance for human rights abuses of female children in Islamic society is derived, at it root, from the example of Muhammud (swish), as the most perfect example for humanity.


http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/a/SB10001424053111903635604576472011907391364?mg=reno64-wsj

July 29, 2011 12:01 AM Cleric Fights Saudi Bid to Ban Child Marriages

By Angus McDowall

Cleric Fights Saudi Bid to Ban Child Marriages

A senior Saudi Arabian cleric has issued a religious ruling to allow fathers to arrange marriages for their daughters "even if they are in the cradle," setting up a confrontation between government reformers and influential conservative clergy.




BBC NEWS | Middle East | Child marriage and divorce in Yemen

Sheikh Hamoud Hashim al-Tharihi is general secretary of the increasingly influential Vice and Virtue Committee and a member of the Islah Party. He cites the example of the Prophet Muhammad who married six-year-old Aisha but waited for consummation till she was a little older.

"Because this happened to the Prophet, we cannot tell people that it is prohibited to marry at an early age," he argues. Moreover, he claims it would harm society by spreading vice.


See? According to the good sheik al-Tharihi (hereinafter "al"), al advises that society would be harmed by not following the example of Mo' (swish). So yeah, boinking a female child is saving society from harm.

Hey, it's a man's world in the islam .

 

[Coyote]

"That's right, change the subject. SherriM must be rubbing off on you."

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The subject is, actually child marriage. Some want to make it about Mohammed.

Yes, you'd think this would be a no-brainer.......but then so are some posters, one has learned. Perhaps the zombies got them in their sleep?

Zombie posters? You worrying me....

 

[Coyote]

....setting up a confrontation between government reformers and influential conservative clergy.

Good for government reformers! Wait...aren't they Muslims?

Conservative clergy. Not surprising. Conservative religious sects are frequently anti-woman.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Child marriage and divorce in Yemen

Sheikh Hamoud Hashim al-Tharihi is general secretary of the increasingly influential Vice and Virtue Committee and a member of the Islah Party. He cites the example of the Prophet Muhammad who married six-year-old Aisha but waited for consummation till she was a little older.

"Because this happened to the Prophet, we cannot tell people that it is prohibited to marry at an early age," he argues. Moreover, he claims it would harm society by spreading vice.


See? According to the good sheik al-Tharihi (hereinafter "al"), al advises that society would be harmed by not following the example of Mo' (swish). So yeah, boinking a female child is saving society from harm.

Hey, it's a man's world in the islam .

In most traditional cultures - which include many African and ME Islamic cultures (as well as Christian African cultures) - it is. It sucks to be a woman.

Yemen is one of the worst.

 

[Hollie]

....setting up a confrontation between government reformers and influential conservative clergy.

Good for government reformers! Wait...aren't they Muslims?

Conservative clergy. Not surprising. Conservative religious sects are frequently anti-woman.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Child marriage and divorce in Yemen

Sheikh Hamoud Hashim al-Tharihi is general secretary of the increasingly influential Vice and Virtue Committee and a member of the Islah Party. He cites the example of the Prophet Muhammad who married six-year-old Aisha but waited for consummation till she was a little older.

"Because this happened to the Prophet, we cannot tell people that it is prohibited to marry at an early age," he argues. Moreover, he claims it would harm society by spreading vice.


See? According to the good sheik al-Tharihi (hereinafter "al"), al advises that society would be harmed by not following the example of Mo' (swish). So yeah, boinking a female child is saving society from harm.

Hey, it's a man's world in the islam .

In most traditional cultures - which include many African and ME Islamic cultures (as well as Christian African cultures) - it is. It sucks to be a woman.

Yemen is one of the worst.

You miss thr point. In various locations in Mo's (swish) neighborhood, any attempt to restrict the practice of pious moslem men taking child brides could be considered a
crime against koranity

 

[Coyote]

....setting up a confrontation between government reformers and influential conservative clergy.

Good for government reformers! Wait...aren't they Muslims?

Conservative clergy. Not surprising. Conservative religious sects are frequently anti-woman.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Child marriage and divorce in Yemen

Sheikh Hamoud Hashim al-Tharihi is general secretary of the increasingly influential Vice and Virtue Committee and a member of the Islah Party. He cites the example of the Prophet Muhammad who married six-year-old Aisha but waited for consummation till she was a little older.

"Because this happened to the Prophet, we cannot tell people that it is prohibited to marry at an early age," he argues. Moreover, he claims it would harm society by spreading vice.


See? According to the good sheik al-Tharihi (hereinafter "al"), al advises that society would be harmed by not following the example of Mo' (swish). So yeah, boinking a female child is saving society from harm.

Hey, it's a man's world in the islam .

In most traditional cultures - which include many African and ME Islamic cultures (as well as Christian African cultures) - it is. It sucks to be a woman.

Yemen is one of the worst.

You miss thr point. In various locations in Mo's (swish) neighborhood, any attempt to restrict the practice of pious moslem men taking child brides could be considered a
crime against koranity

Yup. By Muslim religious conservatives in traditional cultures. Fortunately, the sentiment is not universal in Islam.

 

[Roudy]

The subject of the thread is not Muhammad.

Nor is it incest. It's child rape, and the one person who is notorious for that practice is Muhammad.

No one raped anyone.

Oh, then what do you call a man lusting a girl enough to get engaged with her at age 6 and then having sex with her hen she's 8, after he's married? Here in the US when when an older man has sex with a girl under the age of 18, it's called INVOLUNTARY RAPE.

Wait , what am I saying, Mohammad just wanted to be "friends" with 6 year old Aisha. It was purely plutonic. He had no intention if having sex with her..

 

[Roudy]

"That's right, change the subject. SherriM must be rubbing off on you."

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The subject is, actually child marriage. Some want to make it about Mohammed.

Child marriage and it's causes. In Muslims the main cause is clearly Islam, and Mohammed's marriage to a 9 year old.

 

[Coyote]

"That's right, change the subject. SherriM must be rubbing off on you."

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The subject is, actually child marriage. Some want to make it about Mohammed.

Child marriage and it's causes. In Muslims the main cause is clearly Islam, and Mohammed's marriage to a 9 year old.

The main cause is poverty. Islam is secondary.

 

[Coyote]

Nor is it incest. It's child rape, and the one person who is notorious for that practice is Muhammad.

No one raped anyone.

Oh, then what do you call a man lusting a girl enough to get engaged with her at age 6 and then having sex with her hen she's 8, after he's married? Here in the US when when an older man has sex with a girl under the age of 18, it's called INVOLUNTARY RAPE.

Wait , what am I saying, Mohammad just wanted to be "friends" with 6 year old Aisha. It was purely plutonic. He had no intention if having sex with her..

If that one Hadith is accurate and there is much historical evidence to the contrary that you choose to ignore.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

I wonder if the story in the OP was a fabrication of Zionists to demonize Islam.

It appears it never happened.

 

[Hollie]

Good for government reformers! Wait...aren't they Muslims?

Conservative clergy. Not surprising. Conservative religious sects are frequently anti-woman.



In most traditional cultures - which include many African and ME Islamic cultures (as well as Christian African cultures) - it is. It sucks to be a woman.

Yemen is one of the worst.

You miss thr point. In various locations in Mo's (swish) neighborhood, any attempt to restrict the practice of pious moslem men taking child brides could be considered a
crime against koranity

Yup. By Muslim religious conservatives in traditional cultures. Fortunately, the sentiment is not universal in Islam.

Yep. It's reasonable to accept the actions of "conservatives", ie:, pious moslems in the KSA, Egypt, Tunisia, Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Turkey, Jordan (Jordan possibly being the "honor killing" capital of the islamist world), Iraq, Oman....

Yep, keep the women in their Shame Sacks, bang em' young and hey, as a man, you're allowed several child brides. When they hit the wall at 15 years old, get a new one.

Life's good in Ummah'istan.

 

[Roudy]

Good for government reformers! Wait...aren't they Muslims?

Conservative clergy. Not surprising. Conservative religious sects are frequently anti-woman.



In most traditional cultures - which include many African and ME Islamic cultures (as well as Christian African cultures) - it is. It sucks to be a woman.

Yemen is one of the worst.

You miss thr point. In various locations in Mo's (swish) neighborhood, any attempt to restrict the practice of pious moslem men taking child brides could be considered a
crime against koranity

Yup. By Muslim religious conservatives in traditional cultures. Fortunately, the sentiment is not universal in Islam.

Overwhelming majority of Muslim countries are traditional and religious based societies. Even in those that are run by secular dictators, the majority of people are very religious.

There is universal consensus among religious Muslims and even most Muslims that Aisha was 9 years old. The facts are there and irrefutable. Even Osomir who claims to have studied Islam does not dispute this.

There may be a tiny group that is trying to spread the lie of Aisha's age as "unknown" or "perhaps older than thought" to whitewash reality. God luck with convincing Muslims in that. The truth is, there is no real dispute as to her age. Just desperate attempts.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

The Zionist Strategy of Demonizing Islam

The Zionist Strategy of Demonizing Islam « Aletho News

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

"Two post-9/11 campaigns are prominent examples of this type of Islamophobia in action.**The first was the organized attempt to block construction of the Islamic Society of Boston (ISB) Cultural Center in Roxbury (2002-2007).**Until recently, the controversy over its opening appeared to have largely died down.**But, in the aftermath of the April 2013 Boston Marathon bombing, the same individuals and groups that had led the drive to stop the ISB Cultural Center seized the opportunity to once again malign the ISB.*The second campaign opposed New York City’s Khalil Gibran International Academy (KGIA), the country’s first Arabic dual language public school, and attacked its founding principal, Debbie Almontaser (2007-2010)."

"These campaigns have much in common with each other and with other anti-Muslim campaigns across the country.*Hardline pro-Israel members of what the Center for American Progress (CAP) has called “the Islamophobia Network in America” played important roles in these two crusades—fear-mongering, providing misinformation, and using the right-wing media and blogosphere—and they continue to foment anti-Islam sentiment.[1]**Most disturbingly, the Islamophobia comes not only from people viewed as “fringe” or from those who commit hate crimes, but also, significantly, from the mainstream, those with the power of government and other institutions behind them.*"

How pro-Israel forces drove two virulent anti-Muslim campaigns | Mondoweiss

 

[Coyote]

You miss thr point. In various locations in Mo's (swish) neighborhood, any attempt to restrict the practice of pious moslem men taking child brides could be considered a
crime against koranity

Yup. By Muslim religious conservatives in traditional cultures. Fortunately, the sentiment is not universal in Islam.

Overwhelming majority of Muslim countries are traditional and religious based societies. Even in those that are run by secular dictators, the majority of people are very religious.

There is universal consensus among religious Muslims and even most Muslims that Aisha was 9 years old. The facts are there and irrefutable. Even Osomir who claims to have studied Islam does not dispute this.

There may be a tiny group that is trying to spread the age of Aisha's age as "unknown" or "perhaps older than thought" to whitewash reality. God luck with convincing Muslims in that. The truth is, there is no real dispute as to her age. Just desperate attempts.

Actually it is not "white washing" reality but rather basing it on very real historical events that occurred around her lifetime and it's not a "tiny" group. There is considerable evidence that the age issue - as a "pedophilic" issue - is a fairly modern invention by those who try to demonize Islam as a religion of pedophiles when child marriage is by no means universally accepted in Muslim countries.