Child Of Lesbian Couple Speaks Against Same-sex Marriage.

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The actions being done in the photos are what's being discussed. They weren't taking place at a private residence or in a porn studio for display on the screenable internet. They were taking place IN PUBLIC, DOWN A PUBLIC THOROUGHFARE, in hopes kids would be there watching.

Again, the acts were done in public, not at a private home or studio..

And they were also done in public at an event which people could easily avoid if they wanted to. I've never seen acts like that in my life, have you? However I have seen drunken men and women going around doing stupid stuff, pulling off clothes and what not.

Still don't understand what this has got to do with marriage or adoption. I also (to add another thing to my repetitive thing that doesn't seem to be going in) don't see what this has got to do with ALL gay people.

So????? What does this have to do with marriage? What does it have to do with adoption?
...You're trying to claim that ALL gay people are like this huh? Still? When they clearly aren't all like that. You're going to have to learn at some point that not all gay people go to gay pride events and expose themselves in public.
Also, not everyone who goes to gay pride, exposes themselves. Gay pride isn't just the photos you have presented.

Once again, you avoided the point I made that no single gay person has ever spoken up against pride parades, where it is commonly known lewd sex acts are anticipated, expected and the integral essence of those parades since day one. Your CULTURE approves of them therefore. And until I hear a public denouncement from even one of them against these displays, or against Harvey Milk who sodomized teen boys on drugs, your CULTURAL VALUES have EVERYTHING to do with gay marriage. Because married couples are the only type of couples who can adopt in most states. And adoption means accessing vulnerable orphans.

Society therefore has to choose between the civil rights of the orphans in our care and trust vs the "civil rights" of the LGBT subcultural participants/enablers who approve of silently, overtly or even do lewd sex acts in front of kids down public streets in broad daylight, sober, as a matter of "pride".

I think I know which civil rights to get behind. And so do you, ultimately. And hence the reason you're squirming so hard on this topic..

Well no, I've not avoided it. I've told you why it's ridiculous. You've A) not proven this, you expect me to prove it. It's your point. B) I told you I would not lower myself to deal with an argument that is ridiculous. I'm debating with a neo-Nazi who makes good points, he even tried to claim less than 1 million Jews were killed, but he makes a point. You're not making a point, you're fumbling around with complete nonsense stuff that isn't even evidence for something that isn't an argument.

What does it have to do with marriage or adoption whether someone can find a denunciation of gay people at gay pride doing what they do?

I have not denounced it, does that mean straight people shouldn't be able to get married or adopt? Simple question.

Also, would you not say it's easy to simply put each and every potential adopter through a string of tests and questions etc to find out whether they are suitable, and that sexual preference has nothing to do with this?

Have you also dropped your idiotic lack of knowledge about gay people being able to adopt and single parents being able to adopt in the US? And that in Utah gay people can't adopt whether married or not?

 

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And they were also done in public at an event which people could easily avoid if they wanted to. I've never seen acts like that in my life, have you? However I have seen drunken men and women going around doing stupid stuff, pulling off clothes and what not...

Still don't understand what this has got to do with marriage or adoption....

LGBT organizers invite people of all ages to these events, kids too. To see this or worse.

That is what this has to do with adoption...and marriage...

Let me know when you find an LGBT person who comes out vocally in the media and denounces this ^^ or Harvey Milk's sexual behavior and get back to me. Until then, I'll just assume that 0% of LGBT people vocally opposing these events means that they condone them...

 

[frigidweirdo]

LGBT organizers invite people of all ages to these events, kids too. To see this or worse.

That is what this has to do with adoption...and marriage...

Let me know when you find an LGBT person who comes out vocally in the media and denounces this ^^ or Harvey Milk's sexual behavior and get back to me. Until then, I'll just assume that 0% of LGBT people vocally opposing these events means that they condone them...

So what who they invite? Surely they could invite the queen of Timbuktu, if she decides not to go, or take her children, then it's her problem.

What the hell does it matter whether a person denounces Harvey Milk, George Washington, or the person in the picture?

So, one gay person denounces something all of a sudden gay marriage is okay for you, and gay adoption is okay for you?

I doubt it, you're making an argument that doesn't mean anything to anyone. Least of all you. Even if I provided evidence for your lame excuse for an argument, you'd still go against it. So what?

Also, it's YOUR argument. Prove that no one has denounced this.

You assume 0% of people have denounced because I refuse to go down to your stupid little argument? I mean, REALLY? Are you really that gullible?

Until I find that someone has denounced cornflakes, I refuse to believe that not everyone in the world eats them every morning.

Like my dumbarse argument?

 

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So what who they invite?

"The parade will host pony rides, Jolly Trolly from Children’s Fairyland and singer/drummer Sheila E. Instead of Dykes on Bikes, they are kicking off with Tykes on Trikes.

Carlos Uribe, Oakland Pride Board Member, was quoted as saying, "We had some leather groups from San Francisco who wanted to come, and we politely declined. We want to keep this G-rated. We don't want to compete with San Francisco Pride; we just want to offer a more family-friendly, diverse celebration. Sort of an end-of-summer bookend to SF Pride."

The leather community was not pleased to hear that they would be excluded from the event, leading to a correction and apology released late Saturday from Oakland Pride saying that Uribe was misquoted in the article and that although there will be "no nudity or sexually explicit material at the Parade or Festival, this in no way denies the leather community from participating." Uribe continued, "First off, let me apologize to anyone who was offended by the quote in the article. Those are not my sentiments and not my words. What the article should have said is that we are not allowing nudity, which I can only assume that the reporter made the jump to leather, which is not acceptable." - See more at: FrontiersLA.com Oakland Pride No Nudity but Leather Community is More Than Welcome "

Here's SF "Pride" parade lineup I think for 2015 Note the parts in bold: SF Pride Parade Line-up

001	Dykes on Bikes/Women's Motorcycle Contingent
002	San Francisco Bicycle Coalition
003	AIDS/LifeCycle
004	SoulCycle
005	San Francisco Lesbian/Gay Freedom Band & San Francisco Gay Men's Chorus
006	SF LGBT Pride Celebration Committee - Prancing Elites - Special Guests
007	San Francisco Balloon Magic
008	KOFY TV-20 & Harley Davidson Motor Company
009	Cheer SF / Cheer For Life Foundation
010	Mock, Janet - Celebrity Grand Marshal
011	Gutierrez, Jewlyes - Community Grand Marshal
012	Trans March - Organizational Grand Marshal
013	Griffin-Gracy, Miss Major - Community Grand Marshal & TGIJP
014	Bud Light - Anheuser Busch
015	Pelosi, Nancy, Congresswoman
016	San Francisco Bay Area Chapter Model-A Ford Club of America
017	Airbnb
018	San Francisco Police Officer Pride Alliance
019	Newsom, Gavin - Lt Gov., Chiang, John - CA Controller, & Lee, Edwin - Mayor
020	San Francisco Sheriff's Department - Protect and Defend
021	Yee, Betty - State Board of Equalization Member
022	Diageo
023	Kaplan, Roberta - Celebriity Grand Marshal
024	National Center for Lesbian Rights - NCLR
025	Leno, Mark - Senator, State of California
026	C5 Children's Schools
027	Berkeley School, The
028	Ammiano, Tom - Assemblyperson
029	Bay Area Independent Schools
030	Youth Pride Coalition
031	Virgin America
032	URJ Camp Newman
033	Kaiser Permanente
034	San Leandro Unified School District
035	Our Family Coalition / COLAGE
036	Gay-Straight Alliance Network
037	Apple Inc.
038	Chabot College Gay-Straight Alliance
039	Ting, Phil - Assemblymember
040	Asian & Pacific Islander Wellness Center
041	Adachi, Jeff - Public Defender, City of San Francisco
042	Frank, Barney - Guest of Honor, with husband James Ready
043	Girl Scouts of Northern California, SF Service Unit w/Big Bus
044	PFLAG
045	Scouts for Equality - Golden Gate Chapter
046	Gordon, Rich, Assemblymember
047	United Airlines
048	PG&E PrideNetwork
049	Mullin, Kevin - Assemblymember
050	Human Rights Campaign (HRC)
051	Mathews, Ross - Celebrity Grand Marshal
052	Gascón, George - San Francisco District Attorney
053	Project Open Hand
054	Hospice by the Bay
055	Cisneros, José - Treasurer, City & County of San Francisco
056	Whole Foods Market
057	Chu, Carmen - San Francisco Assessor-Recorder
058	Shanti Project
059	Black Brothers Esteem/San Francisco AIDS Foundation
060	AIDS Emergency Fund/Breast Cancer Emergency Fund
061	Chiu, David - President, San Francisco Board of Supervisors
062	On Lok Lifeways
063	Openhouse
064	Rainbow Community Center
065	Bank of America
066	AIDS Healthcare Foundation / Out of the Closet Thrift Stores
067	Let's Kick Ass
068	Campos, David - SF Board of Supervisors &Latinos de Ambiente del Area de la Bahía
069	Harvey Milk LGBT Democratic Club, The
070	Green Cross, The
071	Hard Rock Café
072	BAD RAP
073	Cohen, Malia - Supervisor, City of San Francisco & UTOPIA
074	Glide Memorial United Methodist Church
075	Facebook
076	San Francisco SPCA, The
077	Burger King
078	Farrell, Mark - San Francisco Board of Supervisors
079	Johnson, III - EJ - Celebrity Guest
080	Union for Reform Judaism
081	Keshet
082	Kim, Jane - San Francisco Board of Supervisors
083	Muttville Senior Dog Rescue
084	Genentech Out & Equal
085	Institute on Aging
086	Netflix
087	Wiener, Scott - Supervisor, City of San Francisco
088	Breed, London - SF Board of Supervisors
089	Nathan, Melanie - Community Grand Marshal
090	San Francisco LGBT Community Center, The
091	One Marriott - IMG
092	Betty's List & Bay Times
093	Grahn, Judy - Lifetime Achievement Grand Marshal
094	Avicolli Mecca, Tommi - Community Grand Marshal
095	Manning, Chelsea - Hon. Grand Marshal
096	Courage to Resist & Pvt. Manning Support Network
097	Clear Channel
098	Pride Radio / Clear Channel
099	Joie de Vivre
100	Recology
101	Intel Corporation
102	Tang, Katy - SF Board of Supervisors & SF Dept Animal Care & Control
103	McIlvenna, Dr. Ted - Gilbert Baker Pride Founder's Award
104	Swirl Radio
105	Atheist Groups of the Bay Area
106	Bay Area Intactivists
107	Bay Area Furrys
108	San Francisco Leather Pride Contingent
109	Bare Chest Calendar
110	Google
111	Worthington, Kriss - Berkeley City Council
112	San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency - SFMTA
113	Pink Pistols San Francisco
114	San Francisco Public Library, James C. Hormel Gay & Lesbian Center
115	San Francisco Department of Veterans Affairs
116	Independent Adoption Center
117	Equality California Institute
118	Marriage Equality USA
119	United States of Marriage Equality
120	Trikone
121	Abadá Capoeira San Francisco
122	Colectivo ALA
123	Macy's
124	NASA Ames Research Center
125	Safeway
126	University of San Francisco LGBTQ Caucus for Faculty/Staff
127	San Francisco State University
128	University of California, San Francisco
129	UC Hastings College of the Law
130	Graton Casino
131	UNITE HERE! Local 2
132	SEIU Local 1000 Lavender Committee
133	Gay Business Graduate Association
134	Tesla Inc.
135	Freedom in Christ
136	SWANABAQ
137	Bay Area American Indian Two Spirits (BAAITS)
138	Asexuality Visibility and Education Network
139	Buddhist Church of San Francisco
140	United in Spirit
141	Dignity / San Francisco
142	Lutherans Concerned / Oasis
143	Episcopal Diocese of California / Oasis California
144	Soul of Pride
145	City of Oakland - Oakland Pride
146	City of Fremont
147	Wells Fargo
148	Bay Area LGBT Catholics
149	Mormons for Marriage Equality
150	Church Ladies & Gents for Gay Rights/First Cong. Church Sonoma UCC
151	San Francisco Opera
152	JPMorgan Chase
153	GLAAD
154	Coca Cola, Inc.
155	Imperial Council of San Francisco, Inc.
156	Planting Peace / The Equality House
157	Salesforce.com
158	Levi Strauss
159	Feinstein's at the Nikko
160	Bank of the West
161	Chipotle Mexican Grill
162	Bay Area Bisexual Network - BABN
163	Guerneville: Hub of the Russian River
164	Trevor Project, The
165	Yahoo!
166	US Bank
167	San Francisco Human Rights Commission
168	Straights for Gay Rights
169	Berkeley Free Clinic
170	San Francisco Department of Public Health - HIV Research Section
171	San Francisco Fire Department
172	San Francisco Area Local #2
173	Veterans Affairs Palo Alto Health Care System
174	Zendesk & St. Anthony Foundation
175	BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit)
176	National Park Service
177	Aquarium of the Bay
178	Contemporary Jewish Museum
179	San Francisco Museum of Modern Art and Asian Art Museum
181	Rhythm & Motion Dance Program and ODC School
182	San Francisco FrontRunners
183	Planned Parenthood Shasta Pacific
184	Uber
185	ACLU of Northern California
186	MundoFOX
187	America Cancer Society
188	Golden State Warriors
189	Mischief Lab
191	San Francisco Media Company / SF Examiner and SF Weekly
192	Body Freedom Network
193	San Francisco Ducal Court
195	Oracle LGBT Group
196	San Francisco Zen Center
197	Box
198	PETA - People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals
199	Mercy For Animals
200	Barefoot Wine & Bubbly
201	YMCA of San Francisco
202	United Food & Commercial Workers Union Local 5
203	Sutter Health
204	Twitter
205	Electronic Arts
206	Eventbrite
207	You Move Me
209	LinkedIn
210	Expedia/Hotwire
211	American Immigration Lawyers Association Northern California
212	Walmart.com PRIDE
213	Yellow Cab Company
214	Great Giant Moving Company
215	Dropbox
216	Lookout Mobile Security
217	San Francisco Bay Area Curling Club
218	SoundCloud
219	SEIU United Healthcare Workers - West
221	Rainbow Honor Walk

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Yeah, I thought so...

 

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"Tykes on bikes" should be a great opener for the 2015 gay pride parade in San Francisco. They'll be heading out in front of the leather crowd I suppose, or maybe the "mischief lab"? Of course, they've mixed in children's venues all throughout so it's really hit or miss which floats/lewd acts they'll be marching behind or in front of.

 

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In a historic first, New York-area Boy Scouts will be among the groups leading 14,000 people down Manhattan's 5th Avenue on Sunday at the 44th Annual NYC Pride March, where they will speak out against the Boy Scouts of America's discriminatory ban on gay adults....

..."For more than a century, Scouting has shaped the leaders of tomorrow, instilling in countless young men the values of honesty, courage, and respect for everyone – values that fly in the face of the BSA's ban on gay adults," said Seth Adam, Director of Communications at GLAAD. "That local Scouts will now be leading one of the world's most iconic LGBT Pride events is a testament to both how far we've come and how far we have left to go... NY-area Boy Scouts to lead NYC Pride March in face of anti-gay ban GLAAD

They showed up first, followed by all the rest, leather, bondage, S&M and don't forget the soon-to-be-mutilated "transgender" youth. I hear they're lowering the age of consent on that one too.