Child Separation "Issue" Is Democrat Scam

You are a Liar.....trump changed policy to charge everyone crossing the border with criminal charges. Every other administration charged them with civil penalties.... The crossing is only a misdemeanor.....not a felony....

This is energizing the Dems and depressing the GOP....SWEET!
 
You are a Liar.....trump changed policy to charge everyone crossing the border with criminal charges. Every other administration charged them with civil penalties.... The crossing is only a misdemeanor.....not a felony....
This is energizing the Dems and depressing the GOP....SWEET!

Wow. Someone tries to preserve the nations sovereignty and you wet your panties and cry foul.
Imagine that.
 
Yes and so must the 2,3, and 5 year old pay the consequences. Do you have any FUCKING idea what those kids are going through? Do you care?

So take your liberal ass to THEIR country and DO SOMETHING other than advocate for US taxpayers to keep supporting them
If America keeps getting invaded, there won't be any USA left to help anyone.

If you big talking Lefties REALLY cared, you'd go to THEIR countries and try to help.
Maybe go down there and take everyone's guns away in their own countries. That would make them safe right?

I say there should be a MANDATORY ORDER for every Lefty screaming about how bad the US is to be shipped off to the immigrants home country for a year minimum to help them restore peace and prosperity to their own countries. After all, you folks are supposedly so smart about making things so good for everyone...isn't that what you're always claiming?

You don't think America is great....so go make their countries great.

Git!!!!! Go!!!!
Regime Change? Nation Building? That worked real well in Vietnam, Nicaragua, Iraq and Afghanistan, right?
 
There is no living with these fools on the Left.
They have no concept of why America has the resources it does.

Because they believe money is free for the government and limitless in supply, they feel we can just support the whole world.

You jackwads are begging to have nothing and a life like all the illegals coming here and can't even see it.

Nothing from nothing LEAVES NOTHING.
 
Regime Change? Nation Building? That worked real well in Vietnam, Nicaragua, Iraq and Afghanistan, right?

Just what I thought.

You're a fraud. You talk big as long as someone else has to do the work and pay for it.

Take your ass to Honduras or Mexico or Guatemala and actually help those people if you care so much.
You don't. And you won't.

BECAUSE YOU AND YOUR ILK ARE ALL FRAUDS !
 
No fuck you. You don't separate kids from their parents you raving asshole. These people are migrant workers coming into this country to help American farmers bring in their harvests. Jobs that Americans won't do. A little migrant education would help you grow the other half of your brain.
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Anyway Obama started separating these people and rightly so, They have no constitutional rights these illegal aliens have a diminishing return at best

He did not liar. Donald try telling the truth for a change.
It’s been the same way for a long time, whether it was Clinton, Bush or Obama they all did it.
Your outrage is disingenuous

They did not and you are the one being disingenuous.
^^^an example of the uninformed ignorance that ALSO VOTES

The Trump supporter is the epitome of a uninformed voter.
 
Anyway Obama started separating these people and rightly so, They have no constitutional rights these illegal aliens have a diminishing return at best

He did not liar. Donald try telling the truth for a change.
It’s been the same way for a long time, whether it was Clinton, Bush or Obama they all did it.
Your outrage is disingenuous

They did not and you are the one being disingenuous.
^^^an example of the uninformed ignorance that ALSO VOTES

You area typical stupid
Lol wut?

Major insult fail
 
It really does appear that Democrats are using the separations of illegal alien parents (some are not parents) from illegal alien children, as a political tool. When have American children ever accompanied their parents/guardians into jails ? When Americans are sent to jail, they go alone, not with their kids. It's been this way for hundreds of years, but have we heard an outcry from Democrats over that ?

No. We have not. It is only now, with illegal aliens, that Democrats are suddenly upset about separation of parent and child. So what about all the American kids, whose parents got locked up ? What are they ? Chopped liver ? They don't count ?

Actually, to Democrats, no they don't count. And maybe "count" is just the right word, since VOTE counts are what this is all about. Democrats want illegal aliens in the US, as VOTES for THEM. American kids and their jailed parents, aren't seen that way.
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Right on the money!
 
Anyway Obama started separating these people and rightly so, They have no constitutional rights these illegal aliens have a diminishing return at best

He did not liar. Donald try telling the truth for a change.
It’s been the same way for a long time, whether it was Clinton, Bush or Obama they all did it.
Your outrage is disingenuous

They did not and you are the one being disingenuous.
^^^an example of the uninformed ignorance that ALSO VOTES

The Trump supporter is the epitome of a uninformed voter.

Funny...you voted for people because they offered "HOPE" and then "CHANGE"...Trump supporters voted for Donald Trump based on what he promised to do with the economy, with immigration and with foreign affairs. Not vague promises like Barry and Hillary but actual promises that he's living up to one by one despite feverish opposition from the left and the Main Stream Media! So who's REALLY the uninformed voter here, BB?
 
Don’t break the law and you get to keep your children
When your very first act on American soil is an illegal one And you dangle your family to prevent you from being held accountable-you have nothing to offer this country except more problems and being a financial drain

They are looking for a better life for their families


Then don't start the "new life" breaking the Law.

You gotta do what you have to do.
They lack papers....easy to fix

That's where you and people who think like you are wrong!

If you are going to break the Law, pay the consequences.
Yes and so must the 2,3, and 5 year old pay the consequences. Do you have any FUCKING idea what those kids are going through? Do you care?
Obviously, she doesn't.
 
Are the Democrats immoral for using children as propaganda pawns?

Are the Republicans immoral for using children as political pawns?

And the Democrats aren't? Get a grip, BB!!!

The Republicans are totally wrong on this and even Trump supporters and Republicans are realizing this. Even Trump recognizes it as he is trying to shovel the responsibility to Democrats.

Totally wrong on what exactly? Protecting children that have been put in an extremely dangerous situation by their parents? By calling for a stronger walls so we don't have all of these illegals pouring over the border? Trump is as right on this as he is on the rest. He's the ONLY President in decades with the guts to try and fix immigration! Barry never even tried...despite repeated campaign promises that it would be a priority!
 
It really does appear that Democrats are using the separations of illegal alien parents (some are not parents) from illegal alien children, as a political tool. When have American children ever accompanied their parents/guardians into jails ? When Americans are sent to jail, they go alone, not with their kids. It's been this way for hundreds of years, but have we heard an outcry from Democrats over that ?

No. We have not. It is only now, with illegal aliens, that Democrats are suddenly upset about separation of parent and child. So what about all the American kids, whose parents got locked up ? What are they ? Chopped liver ? They don't count ?

Actually, to Democrats, no they don't count. And maybe "count" is just the right word, since VOTE counts are what this is all about. Democrats want illegal aliens in the US, as VOTES for THEM. American kids and their jailed parents, aren't seen that way.


this is the issue...

The Media Are Lying About Trump Separating Illegal Immigrant Families. Here’s The Truth.

More specifically, it’s several lies.

1. Trump Created Separation Of Children From Illegal Immigrant Parents. This is plainly false. In 1997, the federal government made an agreement in a case called Flores not to keep unaccompanied illegal immigrant children in custody beyond twenty days. The settlement said nothing about accompanied illegal immigrant children – children who crossed the border with their parents. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals then ruled that accompanied children also could not be held in custody under the terms of the settlement. This meant that the government either had to release whole families, or that the government had to separate parents from children.

2. Immigrants Seeking Asylum Are Being Punished For Seeking Asylum. This is plainly untrue as well. Immigrants who come to points of entry to seek asylum aren’t actually illegally in the country – they’re not arrested. They’re processed through ICE, and their children stay with them.

If, however, illegal immigrants cross the border illegally, the Trump administration now treats them as criminals. If they choose deportation, they aren’t separated from their kids; if they choose to apply for asylum, they stay in the country longer than 20 days, and their kids have to be removed by operation of law.
 
You are a Liar.....trump changed policy to charge everyone crossing the border with criminal charges. Every other administration charged them with civil penalties.... The crossing is only a misdemeanor.....not a felony....
This is energizing the Dems and depressing the GOP....SWEET!

Wow. Someone tries to preserve the nations sovereignty and you wet your panties and cry foul.
Imagine that.
Right, those children are a grave danger to our sovereignty >? Jesus Fucking Christ!!
 
It really does appear that Democrats are using the separations of illegal alien parents (some are not parents) from illegal alien children, as a political tool. When have American children ever accompanied their parents/guardians into jails ? When Americans are sent to jail, they go alone, not with their kids. It's been this way for hundreds of years, but have we heard an outcry from Democrats over that ?

No. We have not. It is only now, with illegal aliens, that Democrats are suddenly upset about separation of parent and child. So what about all the American kids, whose parents got locked up ? What are they ? Chopped liver ? They don't count ?

Actually, to Democrats, no they don't count. And maybe "count" is just the right word, since VOTE counts are what this is all about. Democrats want illegal aliens in the US, as VOTES for THEM. American kids and their jailed parents, aren't seen that way.


this is the issue...

The Media Are Lying About Trump Separating Illegal Immigrant Families. Here’s The Truth.

More specifically, it’s several lies.

1. Trump Created Separation Of Children From Illegal Immigrant Parents. This is plainly false. In 1997, the federal government made an agreement in a case called Flores not to keep unaccompanied illegal immigrant children in custody beyond twenty days. The settlement said nothing about accompanied illegal immigrant children – children who crossed the border with their parents. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals then ruled that accompanied children also could not be held in custody under the terms of the settlement. This meant that the government either had to release whole families, or that the government had to separate parents from children.

2. Immigrants Seeking Asylum Are Being Punished For Seeking Asylum. This is plainly untrue as well. Immigrants who come to points of entry to seek asylum aren’t actually illegally in the country – they’re not arrested. They’re processed through ICE, and their children stay with them.

If, however, illegal immigrants cross the border illegally, the Trump administration now treats them as criminals. If they choose deportation, they aren’t separated from their kids; if they choose to apply for asylum, they stay in the country longer than 20 days, and their kids have to be removed by operation of law.

Furher the crocodile tears shed by the Left are only for kids being separated from the adults who bring them across the border. Can't they at least acknowledge that the kids cannot by law stay with whatever adult brought them across the border if that adult is held until he/she can be processed? And that granting instant amnesty to anybody asking for asylum will have everybody requesting amnesty?

And if people with kids are granted instant amnesty, however temporary it is purported to be, that is a huge incentive for kidnapping or child trafficking? I'm pretty sure if that is the policy, nobody is going to show up at the border without a kid in tow. And we can expect a whole bunch to show up.

And why are the illegals to be granted instant asylum just because they have a kid with them? We don't give the same consideration to Americans where on any given day somewhere close to three milllion kids will have an incarcerated parent. 10% of those whose fathers are incarcerated are wards of the state and put in foster care or whatever. A full 75% of those whose mothers are incarcerated will be put in foster care or some facility.
 
Separating Kids at Border: The Truth | National Review

When a migrant is prosecuted for illegal entry, he or she is taken into custody by the U.S. Marshals. In no circumstance anywhere in the U.S. do the marshals care for the children of people they take into custody. The child is taken into the custody of HHS, who cares for them at temporary shelters.

The criminal proceedings are exceptionally short, assuming there is no aggravating factor such as a prior illegal entity or another crime. The migrants generally plead guilty, and they are then sentenced to time served, typically all in the same day, although practices vary along the border. After this, they are returned to the custody of ICE.

If the adult then wants to go home, in keeping with the expedited order of removal that is issued as a matter of course, it’s relatively simple. The adult should be reunited quickly with his or her child, and the family returned home as a unit. In this scenario, there’s only a very brief separation.

Where it becomes much more of an issue is if the adult files an asylum claim. In that scenario, the adults are almost certainly going to be detained longer than the government is allowed to hold their children.

That’s because of something called the Flores Consent Decree from 1997. It says that unaccompanied children can be held only 20 days. A ruling by the Ninth Circuit extended this 20-day limit to children who come as part of family units. So even if we want to hold a family unit together, we are forbidden from doing so.

The clock ticking on the time the government can hold a child will almost always run out before an asylum claim is settled. The migrant is allowed ten days to seek an attorney, and there may be continuances or other complications.

This creates the choice of either releasing the adults and children together into the country pending the ajudication of the asylum claim, or holding the adults and releasing the children. If the adult is held, HHS places the child with a responsible party in the U.S., ideally a relative (migrants are likely to have family and friends here).

Even if Flores didn’t exist, the government would be very constrained in how many family units it can accommodate. ICE has only about 3,000 family spaces in shelters. It is also limited in its overall space at the border, which is overwhelmed by the ongoing influx. This means that — whatever the Trump administration would prefer to do — many adults are still swiftly released.


4) Congress can fix this. Congress can change the rules so the Flores consent decree will no longer apply, and it can appropriate more money for family shelters at the border. This is an obvious thing to do that would eliminate the tension between enforcing our laws and keeping family units together. The Trump administration is throwing as many resources as it can at the border to expedite the process, and it desperately wants the Flores consent decree reversed. Despite some mixed messages, if the administration had its druthers, family units would be kept together and their cases settled quickly.

The missing piece here is Congress, but little outrage will be directed at it, and probably nothing will be done. And so our perverse system will remain in place and the crisis at the border will rumble on.
 
this is the issue...

The Media Are Lying About Trump Separating Illegal Immigrant Families. Here’s The Truth.

More specifically, it’s several lies.

1. Trump Created Separation Of Children From Illegal Immigrant Parents. This is plainly false. In 1997, the federal government made an agreement in a case called Flores not to keep unaccompanied illegal immigrant children in custody beyond twenty days. The settlement said nothing about accompanied illegal immigrant children – children who crossed the border with their parents. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals then ruled that accompanied children also could not be held in custody under the terms of the settlement. This meant that the government either had to release whole families, or that the government had to separate parents from children.

2. Immigrants Seeking Asylum Are Being Punished For Seeking Asylum. This is plainly untrue as well. Immigrants who come to points of entry to seek asylum aren’t actually illegally in the country – they’re not arrested. They’re processed through ICE, and their children stay with them.

If, however, illegal immigrants cross the border illegally, the Trump administration now treats them as criminals. If they choose deportation, they aren’t separated from their kids; if they choose to apply for asylum, they stay in the country longer than 20 days, and their kids have to be removed by operation of law.

The problem is....
They couldn't care less what the facts are. Irrelevant.

Their goal is not to understand the law, it is to break the spirit and the back of the American System and fundamentally forever change it into a Globalist, Socialist society.
One in which the Constitution as is has no place.

Kudos for your excellent work, but you're dealing with people who have complete contempt for our system no matter how well it's treated them.
 

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