Church goers must take their firearms with them to Church

Shootings during road rage a big hit here too
Police: 1 dead, 2 injured in Phoenix road-rage shooting
One of the first things Hitler did was take guns away from Jews. How’d that end up?
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Israel has gun control, they seem to be doing fine.


They are armed all the time, they have a border fence.....

They have really strong gun control.


And more of their people are armed....and they have an effective border fence.
 


Sorry....you tried this before.....this is nothing more than gangs shooting at each other on the roads......fewer police, easy to get away.....nice lie though...

CHP says East Bay freeway shooting increase mostly gangs targeting each othe

VALLEJO — Given the alarming uptick in shootings on Bay Area freeways, including two fatalities this year, the California Highway Patrol on Friday sought to reassure the public that most of the crimes were not random but rather gangs targeting each other.
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80 Shootings on Bay Area Freeways Since 2015: CHP

"The CHP takes any crime or violence on our state right-of-way seriously. Through the cooperation of the public andshould be noted that we’re responding to the reporters’ inquiry sent to the California State Transportation Agency. area witnesses, the CHP and other Bay Area law enforcement agencies have been able to arrest 12 suspects related to freeway shootings since November 2015.

These shootings have involved targeted individuals, many related to gang-on-gang violence. Last August law enforcement and the Contra Costa District Attorney’s Office announced the arrest of 24 gang members – many of whom they believe are responsible for freeway shootings in the area.


http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/09/21/1-of-several-hurt-in-apparent-biker-gang-feud-on-15-freeway-dies/

CORONA (CBSLA.com) — California Highway Patrol officers have closed the Southbound side of the 15 Freeway Saturday after at least two people were injured in a gang related shooting.

According to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department, members of the Hells Angels and Mongols rival motorcycle gangs opened fire on each other on the Cajalco Road off ramp around 6:30 p.m. near El Cerrito Road.

KCAL9’s Erica Nochlin spoke with officials in the area where traffic has been backed up for over three hours.



Chicago's gang violence catches highway drivers in crossfire

Jonathan Ortiz and other members of his rap group, No Nights Off, stepped onto the stage at Chicago's House of Blues in mid-September for a concert they hoped would propel their young, promising careers.

Less than two weeks later, the 22-year-old Ortiz, who forebodingly rapped under the stage name "John Doe," was fatally shot as he drove on an expressway in Chicago. His girlfriend Alexis Garcia also got a bullet lodged in her back.

Ortiz and Garcia were victims of the 38th shooting on Chicago-area expressways in 2016, a record-high number for a city stung by a murder rate not seen in two decades.

“It is overwhelming that this is the reality in Chicago, that you can drive on the expressway now and get shot at," said Tanue David, a family support specialist with the outreach group Chicago Survivors, who is working with the Ortiz family.

Officials say gang violence is increasingly spilling over onto Chicago's expressways, with innocent drivers sometimes caught in the crossfire, while the state police force is shrinking.

The Illinois State Police, which has jurisdiction over the expressways, blamed gang warfare for the increased highway shoot-outs in 2016 that pose "an extreme danger to the motoring public."

Ortiz was shot on Interstate 290, one of five expressways within city limits where shootings took place.

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Everett Police: 4 teens arrested for gang-related shooting initially thought to be road rage incident


EVERETT, Wash. — Four teenagers were arrested Friday for a May 29 shooting on Beverly Boulevard that left a 16-year-old boy in critical condition and that police initially thought might be a road rage incident.

“Initial 911 calls reported a road rage incident between two vehicles in the area of Casino Rd and Evergreen Way while additional callers said gunshots were fired on Beverly Blvd between vehicles with the same descriptions,” police said in a news release. “From the investigation, detectives believe the incident was not a random road rage situation but was a gang related confrontation.”



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‘Under siege’: After 28 recent highway shootings, Bay Area mayors plead for emergency help


“Our freeways have become the place of choice to undertake these murderous activities due to perceived ease of escape and the fact that there are not any surveillance cameras with recording capability to assist in any criminal investigations,” the mayors wrote.

Their letter said that elected officials and residents of West and East Contra Costa counties feel the community is “under siege” and that the rampant gun violence puts all commuters at risk.

[Police arrest suspect in highway shootings that terrorized Phoenix motorists]

“We offer assurance to the public that we take their concerns very seriously and understand that although we know these shootings are not random, this fact can be of little consolation to the motoring public,” the California Highway Patrol said in a statement Wednesday, one day after the area’s 28th highway shooting left one man with a bullet wound in his leg.

Road rage suspect turns himself in, faces murder charges - CNN



And the actual majority are gang members shooting at other gang members...but thanks for finding the one that isn't a gang shooting.
 


And the increase is due to the Ferguson Effect....not law abiding gun owners owning and carrying guns....

Hard Data, Hollow Protests



The reason for the current increase is what I have called the Ferguson Effect.

Cops are backing off of proactive policing in high-crime minority neighborhoods, and criminals are becoming emboldened.

Having been told incessantly by politicians, the media, and Black Lives Matter activists that they are bigoted for getting out of their cars and questioning someone loitering on a known drug corner at 2 AM, many officers are instead just driving by. Such stops are discretionary; cops don’t have to make them. And when political elites demonize the police for just such proactive policing, we shouldn’t be surprised when cops get the message and do less of it.


Seventy-two percent of the nation’s officers say that they and their colleagues are now less willing to stop and question suspicious persons, according to a Pew Research poll released in January. The reason is the persistent anti-cop climate.

Four studies came out in 2016 alone rebutting the charge that police shootings are racially biased. If there is a bias in police shootings, it works in favor of blacks and against whites. That truth has not stopped the ongoing demonization of the police—including, now, by many of the country’s ignorant professional athletes. The toll will be felt, as always, in the inner city, by the thousands of law-abiding people there who desperately want more police protection.

Yes we had ferguson because our police shoot lots of people. Our police shoot lots of people because we have too many guns.
 
Shootings during road rage a big hit here too
Police: 1 dead, 2 injured in Phoenix road-rage shooting
One of the first things Hitler did was take guns away from Jews. How’d that end up?
View attachment 151528

Israel has gun control, they seem to be doing fine.


They are armed all the time, they have a border fence.....

They have really strong gun control.


And more of their people are armed....and they have an effective border fence.

No they have a much lower ownership than we do.
 


Sorry....you tried this before.....this is nothing more than gangs shooting at each other on the roads......fewer police, easy to get away.....nice lie though...

CHP says East Bay freeway shooting increase mostly gangs targeting each othe

VALLEJO — Given the alarming uptick in shootings on Bay Area freeways, including two fatalities this year, the California Highway Patrol on Friday sought to reassure the public that most of the crimes were not random but rather gangs targeting each other.
=======

80 Shootings on Bay Area Freeways Since 2015: CHP

"The CHP takes any crime or violence on our state right-of-way seriously. Through the cooperation of the public andshould be noted that we’re responding to the reporters’ inquiry sent to the California State Transportation Agency. area witnesses, the CHP and other Bay Area law enforcement agencies have been able to arrest 12 suspects related to freeway shootings since November 2015.

These shootings have involved targeted individuals, many related to gang-on-gang violence. Last August law enforcement and the Contra Costa District Attorney’s Office announced the arrest of 24 gang members – many of whom they believe are responsible for freeway shootings in the area.


http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/09/21/1-of-several-hurt-in-apparent-biker-gang-feud-on-15-freeway-dies/

CORONA (CBSLA.com) — California Highway Patrol officers have closed the Southbound side of the 15 Freeway Saturday after at least two people were injured in a gang related shooting.

According to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department, members of the Hells Angels and Mongols rival motorcycle gangs opened fire on each other on the Cajalco Road off ramp around 6:30 p.m. near El Cerrito Road.

KCAL9’s Erica Nochlin spoke with officials in the area where traffic has been backed up for over three hours.



Chicago's gang violence catches highway drivers in crossfire

Jonathan Ortiz and other members of his rap group, No Nights Off, stepped onto the stage at Chicago's House of Blues in mid-September for a concert they hoped would propel their young, promising careers.

Less than two weeks later, the 22-year-old Ortiz, who forebodingly rapped under the stage name "John Doe," was fatally shot as he drove on an expressway in Chicago. His girlfriend Alexis Garcia also got a bullet lodged in her back.

Ortiz and Garcia were victims of the 38th shooting on Chicago-area expressways in 2016, a record-high number for a city stung by a murder rate not seen in two decades.

“It is overwhelming that this is the reality in Chicago, that you can drive on the expressway now and get shot at," said Tanue David, a family support specialist with the outreach group Chicago Survivors, who is working with the Ortiz family.

Officials say gang violence is increasingly spilling over onto Chicago's expressways, with innocent drivers sometimes caught in the crossfire, while the state police force is shrinking.

The Illinois State Police, which has jurisdiction over the expressways, blamed gang warfare for the increased highway shoot-outs in 2016 that pose "an extreme danger to the motoring public."

Ortiz was shot on Interstate 290, one of five expressways within city limits where shootings took place.

==============

Everett Police: 4 teens arrested for gang-related shooting initially thought to be road rage incident


EVERETT, Wash. — Four teenagers were arrested Friday for a May 29 shooting on Beverly Boulevard that left a 16-year-old boy in critical condition and that police initially thought might be a road rage incident.

“Initial 911 calls reported a road rage incident between two vehicles in the area of Casino Rd and Evergreen Way while additional callers said gunshots were fired on Beverly Blvd between vehicles with the same descriptions,” police said in a news release. “From the investigation, detectives believe the incident was not a random road rage situation but was a gang related confrontation.”



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‘Under siege’: After 28 recent highway shootings, Bay Area mayors plead for emergency help


“Our freeways have become the place of choice to undertake these murderous activities due to perceived ease of escape and the fact that there are not any surveillance cameras with recording capability to assist in any criminal investigations,” the mayors wrote.

Their letter said that elected officials and residents of West and East Contra Costa counties feel the community is “under siege” and that the rampant gun violence puts all commuters at risk.

[Police arrest suspect in highway shootings that terrorized Phoenix motorists]

“We offer assurance to the public that we take their concerns very seriously and understand that although we know these shootings are not random, this fact can be of little consolation to the motoring public,” the California Highway Patrol said in a statement Wednesday, one day after the area’s 28th highway shooting left one man with a bullet wound in his leg.

Road rage suspect turns himself in, faces murder charges - CNN



And the actual majority are gang members shooting at other gang members...but thanks for finding the one that isn't a gang shooting.


Seems like lots of chances for innocents to be hit by strays. How many of these they have in the UK?
 


And the increase is due to the Ferguson Effect....not law abiding gun owners owning and carrying guns....

Hard Data, Hollow Protests



The reason for the current increase is what I have called the Ferguson Effect.

Cops are backing off of proactive policing in high-crime minority neighborhoods, and criminals are becoming emboldened.

Having been told incessantly by politicians, the media, and Black Lives Matter activists that they are bigoted for getting out of their cars and questioning someone loitering on a known drug corner at 2 AM, many officers are instead just driving by. Such stops are discretionary; cops don’t have to make them. And when political elites demonize the police for just such proactive policing, we shouldn’t be surprised when cops get the message and do less of it.


Seventy-two percent of the nation’s officers say that they and their colleagues are now less willing to stop and question suspicious persons, according to a Pew Research poll released in January. The reason is the persistent anti-cop climate.

Four studies came out in 2016 alone rebutting the charge that police shootings are racially biased. If there is a bias in police shootings, it works in favor of blacks and against whites. That truth has not stopped the ongoing demonization of the police—including, now, by many of the country’s ignorant professional athletes. The toll will be felt, as always, in the inner city, by the thousands of law-abiding people there who desperately want more police protection.

Yes we had ferguson because our police shoot lots of people. Our police shoot lots of people because we have too many guns.


No...we had Ferguson because left wingers like you lied about what happened.
 
One of the first things Hitler did was take guns away from Jews. How’d that end up?
View attachment 151528

Israel has gun control, they seem to be doing fine.


They are armed all the time, they have a border fence.....

They have really strong gun control.


And more of their people are armed....and they have an effective border fence.

No they have a much lower ownership than we do.


And they have armed military patrolling their cities.....and an effective border fence.
 


And the increase is due to the Ferguson Effect....not law abiding gun owners owning and carrying guns....

Hard Data, Hollow Protests



The reason for the current increase is what I have called the Ferguson Effect.

Cops are backing off of proactive policing in high-crime minority neighborhoods, and criminals are becoming emboldened.

Having been told incessantly by politicians, the media, and Black Lives Matter activists that they are bigoted for getting out of their cars and questioning someone loitering on a known drug corner at 2 AM, many officers are instead just driving by. Such stops are discretionary; cops don’t have to make them. And when political elites demonize the police for just such proactive policing, we shouldn’t be surprised when cops get the message and do less of it.


Seventy-two percent of the nation’s officers say that they and their colleagues are now less willing to stop and question suspicious persons, according to a Pew Research poll released in January. The reason is the persistent anti-cop climate.

Four studies came out in 2016 alone rebutting the charge that police shootings are racially biased. If there is a bias in police shootings, it works in favor of blacks and against whites. That truth has not stopped the ongoing demonization of the police—including, now, by many of the country’s ignorant professional athletes. The toll will be felt, as always, in the inner city, by the thousands of law-abiding people there who desperately want more police protection.

Yes we had ferguson because our police shoot lots of people. Our police shoot lots of people because we have too many guns.


No...we had Ferguson because left wingers like you lied about what happened.

No we had Ferguson because police are shooting too many people obviously. Thats why protests are still happening.
 


Yes....the British don't tend to do mass shootings, the only thing stopping them? Their nuts just don't do them....they almost had one recently but the kid changed his mind, the one before that the kid bragged about it on Facebook and got caught before he could do it...

Luck is not gun control...

Seems we are the only ones doing it so regularly. Too many guns.


Not enough guns, they happen primarily in gun free zones.

Australia has had a lot of near misses.....their nuts just don't shoot that well....again, luck is not gun control.
 
Israel has gun control, they seem to be doing fine.


They are armed all the time, they have a border fence.....

They have really strong gun control.


And more of their people are armed....and they have an effective border fence.

No they have a much lower ownership than we do.


And they have armed military patrolling their cities.....and an effective border fence.

We have armed police. I don't see what a fence will do, most of our gunman are born here...
 


And the increase is due to the Ferguson Effect....not law abiding gun owners owning and carrying guns....

Hard Data, Hollow Protests



The reason for the current increase is what I have called the Ferguson Effect.

Cops are backing off of proactive policing in high-crime minority neighborhoods, and criminals are becoming emboldened.

Having been told incessantly by politicians, the media, and Black Lives Matter activists that they are bigoted for getting out of their cars and questioning someone loitering on a known drug corner at 2 AM, many officers are instead just driving by. Such stops are discretionary; cops don’t have to make them. And when political elites demonize the police for just such proactive policing, we shouldn’t be surprised when cops get the message and do less of it.


Seventy-two percent of the nation’s officers say that they and their colleagues are now less willing to stop and question suspicious persons, according to a Pew Research poll released in January. The reason is the persistent anti-cop climate.

Four studies came out in 2016 alone rebutting the charge that police shootings are racially biased. If there is a bias in police shootings, it works in favor of blacks and against whites. That truth has not stopped the ongoing demonization of the police—including, now, by many of the country’s ignorant professional athletes. The toll will be felt, as always, in the inner city, by the thousands of law-abiding people there who desperately want more police protection.

Yes we had ferguson because our police shoot lots of people. Our police shoot lots of people because we have too many guns.


No...we had Ferguson because left wingers like you lied about what happened.

No we had Ferguson because police are shooting too many people obviously. Thats why protests are still happening.


No...the protests are still happening because the left is pushing an anti-American agenda, and are using the lies about police shootings to get political power.
 


Yes....the British don't tend to do mass shootings, the only thing stopping them? Their nuts just don't do them....they almost had one recently but the kid changed his mind, the one before that the kid bragged about it on Facebook and got caught before he could do it...

Luck is not gun control...

Seems we are the only ones doing it so regularly. Too many guns.


Not enough guns, they happen primarily in gun free zones.

Australia has had a lot of near misses.....their nuts just don't shoot that well....again, luck is not gun control.

You keep making that claim, but violent crime increases as more guns are out there:
FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year
 
They are armed all the time, they have a border fence.....

They have really strong gun control.


And more of their people are armed....and they have an effective border fence.

No they have a much lower ownership than we do.


And they have armed military patrolling their cities.....and an effective border fence.

We have armed police. I don't see what a fence will do, most of our gunman are born here...


Israel faces terrorists from outside their country, the border fence cut down on their terrorist attacks.


Cops are 5 minutes out...that is why gun free zones are the choice of mass shooters.
 


And the increase is due to the Ferguson Effect....not law abiding gun owners owning and carrying guns....

Hard Data, Hollow Protests



The reason for the current increase is what I have called the Ferguson Effect.

Cops are backing off of proactive policing in high-crime minority neighborhoods, and criminals are becoming emboldened.

Having been told incessantly by politicians, the media, and Black Lives Matter activists that they are bigoted for getting out of their cars and questioning someone loitering on a known drug corner at 2 AM, many officers are instead just driving by. Such stops are discretionary; cops don’t have to make them. And when political elites demonize the police for just such proactive policing, we shouldn’t be surprised when cops get the message and do less of it.


Seventy-two percent of the nation’s officers say that they and their colleagues are now less willing to stop and question suspicious persons, according to a Pew Research poll released in January. The reason is the persistent anti-cop climate.

Four studies came out in 2016 alone rebutting the charge that police shootings are racially biased. If there is a bias in police shootings, it works in favor of blacks and against whites. That truth has not stopped the ongoing demonization of the police—including, now, by many of the country’s ignorant professional athletes. The toll will be felt, as always, in the inner city, by the thousands of law-abiding people there who desperately want more police protection.

Yes we had ferguson because our police shoot lots of people. Our police shoot lots of people because we have too many guns.


No...we had Ferguson because left wingers like you lied about what happened.

No we had Ferguson because police are shooting too many people obviously. Thats why protests are still happening.


No...the protests are still happening because the left is pushing an anti-American agenda, and are using the lies about police shootings to get political power.

No they actually shoot a lot of people. Too many guns.
US cops killed 100 times more than German police in 2015
 
They have really strong gun control.


And more of their people are armed....and they have an effective border fence.

No they have a much lower ownership than we do.


And they have armed military patrolling their cities.....and an effective border fence.

We have armed police. I don't see what a fence will do, most of our gunman are born here...


Israel faces terrorists from outside their country, the border fence cut down on their terrorist attacks.


Cops are 5 minutes out...that is why gun free zones are the choice of mass shooters.

Yes we don't even need terrorists for mass shootings. Too many guns.
 


Yes....the British don't tend to do mass shootings, the only thing stopping them? Their nuts just don't do them....they almost had one recently but the kid changed his mind, the one before that the kid bragged about it on Facebook and got caught before he could do it...

Luck is not gun control...

Seems we are the only ones doing it so regularly. Too many guns.


Not enough guns, they happen primarily in gun free zones.

Australia has had a lot of near misses.....their nuts just don't shoot that well....again, luck is not gun control.

You keep making that claim, but violent crime increases as more guns are out there:
FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year


Nope......the increase didn't happen until Ferguson...up till then the violent crime rate had dropped 72%....the gun crime rate 75%....and the gun murder rate dropped 49%...which is why the left supports the Ferguson Effect, they need the crime rate to go up to push for gun control.

Hard Data, Hollow Protests



The reason for the current increase is what I have called the Ferguson Effect. Cops are backing off of proactive policing in high-crime minority neighborhoods, and criminals are becoming emboldened. Having been told incessantly by politicians, the media, and Black Lives Matter activists that they are bigoted for getting out of their cars and questioning someone loitering on a known drug corner at 2 AM, many officers are instead just driving by. Such stops are discretionary; cops don’t have to make them. And when political elites demonize the police for just such proactive policing, we shouldn’t be surprised when cops get the message and do less of it. Seventy-two percent of the nation’s officers say that they and their colleagues are now less willing to stop and question suspicious persons, according to a Pew Research poll released in January. The reason is the persistent anti-cop climate.

Four studies came out in 2016 alone rebutting the charge that police shootings are racially biased. If there is a bias in police shootings, it works in favor of blacks and against whites. That truth has not stopped the ongoing demonization of the police—including, now, by many of the country’s ignorant professional athletes. The toll will be felt, as always, in the inner city, by the thousands of law-abiding people there who desperately want more police protection.
 
Well, since every 18 year old Israeli is REQUIRED TO LEARN HOW TO SHOOT WEAPONS, then I am all for compliance!
Make every American 18 year old learn to how to fire weapons!

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Great
From the link
Israel limits gun ownership to security workers, people who transport valuables or explosives, residents of the West Bank, and hunters. People who don't fall into one of those categories cannot obtain a firearm permit. Moreover, Israel rejects 40 percent of firearm permit applicants, the highest rejection rate in the Western world. Both Switzerland and Israel require yearly (or more frequent) permit renewals to insure that the reasons are still applicable.


They have armed military patrols in their cities......and an effective border fence.
 


Yes....the British don't tend to do mass shootings, the only thing stopping them? Their nuts just don't do them....they almost had one recently but the kid changed his mind, the one before that the kid bragged about it on Facebook and got caught before he could do it...

Luck is not gun control...

Seems we are the only ones doing it so regularly. Too many guns.


Not enough guns, they happen primarily in gun free zones.

Australia has had a lot of near misses.....their nuts just don't shoot that well....again, luck is not gun control.

You keep making that claim, but violent crime increases as more guns are out there:
FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year


Nope......the increase didn't happen until Ferguson...up till then the violent crime rate had dropped 72%....the gun crime rate 75%....and the gun murder rate dropped 49%...which is why the left supports the Ferguson Effect, they need the crime rate to go up to push for gun control.

Hard Data, Hollow Protests



The reason for the current increase is what I have called the Ferguson Effect. Cops are backing off of proactive policing in high-crime minority neighborhoods, and criminals are becoming emboldened. Having been told incessantly by politicians, the media, and Black Lives Matter activists that they are bigoted for getting out of their cars and questioning someone loitering on a known drug corner at 2 AM, many officers are instead just driving by. Such stops are discretionary; cops don’t have to make them. And when political elites demonize the police for just such proactive policing, we shouldn’t be surprised when cops get the message and do less of it. Seventy-two percent of the nation’s officers say that they and their colleagues are now less willing to stop and question suspicious persons, according to a Pew Research poll released in January. The reason is the persistent anti-cop climate.

Four studies came out in 2016 alone rebutting the charge that police shootings are racially biased. If there is a bias in police shootings, it works in favor of blacks and against whites. That truth has not stopped the ongoing demonization of the police—including, now, by many of the country’s ignorant professional athletes. The toll will be felt, as always, in the inner city, by the thousands of law-abiding people there who desperately want more police protection.

And we had feguson because our police shoot too many people because we have too many guns.
 

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