Communist is the worst idea ever invented and yet it is believed in by millions

1) Joseph Stalin played the greatest role of any mortal in defeating Nazis and saving the World from Nazism.

2) Joseph Stalin helped create Israel.
Yes he did. Which is irrelevant as he commited even greater genocide thasn the nazis did. Saving the world from naziism in order to subject the world to communism is not doing the world a favor.

Communism is far bloodier and worse thasn naziism. What he did was akin to a serial killer stopping a mass murderer.

Communism was originally built on Equality. Sadly, it went off the original way. About 3.3 Million people died in Joseph Stalin's Penal System.


Nazism was built on the idea of Superiority and Genocide. Six Million Jews, 3.5 Million Soviet POWs and 12 Million other noncombatants were killed by Nazis. Nazism was much worse.
 
If it hasn't worked in the past, it's not going to work in the future.

And it's never worked in the past.

That's such an illogical position to take.

Literally, if you fail at first, give up and never try again.

The problem with political systems is there are many ways to flog a horse.

You can set up Socialism in a million different ways. You can be intelligent about it and use human psychology to get the best out of workers, or you can just demand they do what they're told and use fear, or you can simply let the workers be lazy.

Each will have different results.

China is doing things much differently to the way the USSR did things, or how Cuba do things. So you'll have different results.
Unfortunately, you are speaking to an uneducated fool who doesn't understand a word you are saying. He's got a tattoo on the palm of one hand, "Capitalism, good" "Communism, bad" that he can glance at any time a political discussion arises. He has no idea of what philosophy goes into each of them or how many different ways they can be applied.
And yet, oddly, with all the ways Communism can be applied, it always winds up with tyranny and oppression.

Some people think that's a success. Some people are retarded.
 
Bull shit. How many millions have been killed by Capitalist countries? And the US (that boasts of being the Capitalist leader of the world) has a terrible standard of living. Just look at the percentage of poverty in the US.
Poor people in America have big-screen televisions, cars, and cell phones.

How about poor people in Asia or Africa?
There you have it, ladies and gentlemen! The best way to judge a nation of superior quality of life is by the number of big-screen televisions, cars, and cell phones they have! We can ignore the proliferation of rioting, serial killers, mass shootings, and wars that the population experiences on a daily basis. Go America! :Boom2:
Dear Diary:

Today I learned Communist nations never have riots, serial killers, mass shootings, and wars.

P.S.: Communists are stupid. They keep proving it.
 
Bull shit. How many millions have been killed by Capitalist countries? And the US (that boasts of being the Capitalist leader of the world) has a terrible standard of living. Just look at the percentage of poverty in the US.
Poor people in America have big-screen televisions, cars, and cell phones.

How about poor people in Asia or Africa?
There you have it, ladies and gentlemen! The best way to judge a nation of superior quality of life is by the number of big-screen televisions, cars, and cell phones they have! We can ignore the proliferation of rioting, serial killers, mass shootings, and wars that the population experiences on a daily basis. Go America! :Boom2:
Dear Diary:

Today I learned Communist nations never have riots, serial killers, mass shootings, and wars.

P.S.: Communists are stupid. They keep proving it.
man oh man ....the ignorant left just have no clue about the suffering socialism will ultimately bring to this nation ...:(
 
1) Joseph Stalin played the greatest role of any mortal in defeating Nazis and saving the World from Nazism.

2) Joseph Stalin helped create Israel.
Yes he did. Which is irrelevant as he commited even greater genocide thasn the nazis did. Saving the world from naziism in order to subject the world to communism is not doing the world a favor.

Communism is far bloodier and worse thasn naziism. What he did was akin to a serial killer stopping a mass murderer.

Communism was originally built on Equality. Sadly, it went off the original way. About 3.3 Million people died in Joseph Stalin's Penal System.


Nazism was built on the idea of Superiority and Genocide. Six Million Jews, 3.5 Million Soviet POWs and 12 Million other noncombatants were killed by Nazis. Nazism was much worse.
Communism killed a hundred million people in the 20th Century.

Let's not give it another chance.
 
1) Communism killed a hundred million people in the 20th Century.

2) Let's not give it another chance.

1) That is a vast exaggeration. I support Leon Trotsky, thus I oppose Totalitarian Communism. But these numbers are vastly exaggerated.

2) Positive Rights to food, shelter, and medical care are important.
 
Why do Progressives never have a bad word to say about Communism or mankind's most prolific mass murders, all Communists?

Because communism has never killed anyone.
Stalin was not a communist, but a capitalist bank robber, who infiltrated the Communists, Socialists, and Anarchists, killed them all, took over, and implemented state capitalism instead.

Look at the characteristics. Communism is collaborative, cooperative, communal, and the way humans normally treat each other in small social groups like families, clubs, tribes, etc.
Those who think communism implies a large centralized state, simply do not know anything about communism.
And what Stalin implemented was not at all collaborative, cooperative, communal, or voluntary.
It was forced, state, capitalism, with purely a profit motive for the ruling elite.
Communism has killed un toldf tens of millions.

Stalin was a communist. He was not a capitalist,

Communism is totalitarian and never cooperative or communial or cllobaorative,

It is you who grapss nothing about communism and is ignorant of it.

Stalin wasn't really a Communist. Do you think Stalin gave a damn about Communism at all? What did Stalin do that was either Communist or pushing for Communism?
He was a communist through and through. he etablished the comintern specifically for the purpose of spreading communism world wide just as Marx required communism to work. He forced the entire nation to work and live in accordance with his interpretation of Marx which is precisely what the dictatorship of the proletariate is meant to do.

Well, the Comintern was established in 1919 before Stalin was a major force. Stalin was on the delegate's list, but it's not known if he actually went.

Stalin was one of those guys who'd use the system he was in in order to gain the power he wanted. Nothing seems to suggest he was a Communist.

Even the early Communists in Russia thought he might be an agent provocateur.The proven worldwide railure of socialism
Everything proves he was a communist inclluding his own admission.

Yeah, only if you see things in simple.
You mean seeing things clearly without denial

The problem is you think you're seeing things clearly, but mostly this is because you don't actually bother looking at much.
I look at it all you selectively ignore what is inconvenient.

Such as?
The fact that Stalin was a communist

Ah, so, what we seem to be dealing with is this sort of "fact" that most people "know", but haven't actually thought about.

Why, exactly, was Stalin a Communist? Just because he was leader of the USSR?
Because he stated he was and enforced communism on people as envisioned by marx. He followed the play book as directed.

So, if North Korea says it's democracy, IT'S DEMOCRATIC?????

What you have to remember about people and politics is they'll say anything and pretend to be anything to get power.

Try the anti-gay politician caught having gay sex.


"Wes Goodman: Anti-LGBT Republican politician 'caught having sex with man in his office' facing 30 sexual misconduct accusations"

Try Xi Jinping who was sent to the countryside under Mao and ran away. He literally ran away from Communism. But he wanted power, and in a one party state, if you want power, you go to the party.


"Xi Jinping has said that he experienced his political awakening when he was “sent down” to Liangjiahe in Shaanxi province,"

"But the misery of life in the impoverished village of a few dozen houses was too much for the 15-year-old Xi. Longing for his home comforts, he escaped."

People will pretend to be anything. China still has Mao on its banknotes. You have to wonder why, when it was DengXiaoPing who set up the modern China, not Mao. Mao tried to destroy China.

But he didn't enforce Communism as Marx envisioned at all.

Marxism was a classless society.

The USSR clearly had some people more equal than others.
He did enforce communism as envisioned. Marxism calls for a classless society at the end which of course is never reached in reality. However Marxism calls for and demands a new arrangement of class in society before the end is reached. That is why it calls for a dictatorship of the proletariate. Marx clearly stated despotism would be necessary while striving to reach that end. Stalin merely provided the dictatorship while striving for thaty end exactly as Marx demanded.

Once again commubnism is not the end result it is the revolution and ideology to reach that result.

Any evidence that what Stalin was doing was moving towards Communism, rather than Stalin just being in power and doing whatever he liked?
The two are the same so yes

Oh jeez. Are we really debating on such a low level?

You don't know what Communism is, do you?

You think that what you saw from the USSR, without even understand that country, is "Communism". Oh dear.
 
1) Joseph Stalin played the greatest role of any mortal in defeating Nazis and saving the World from Nazism.

2) Joseph Stalin helped create Israel.
Yes he did. Which is irrelevant as he commited even greater genocide thasn the nazis did. Saving the world from naziism in order to subject the world to communism is not doing the world a favor.

Communism is far bloodier and worse thasn naziism. What he did was akin to a serial killer stopping a mass murderer.

Communism was originally built on Equality. Sadly, it went off the original way. About 3.3 Million people died in Joseph Stalin's Penal System.


Nazism was built on the idea of Superiority and Genocide. Six Million Jews, 3.5 Million Soviet POWs and 12 Million other noncombatants were killed by Nazis. Nazism was much worse.
Communism killed a hundred million people in the 20th Century.

Let's not give it another chance.

Such a nonsense statement. Just emotion. No understanding whatsoever.
 
The basic idea is not about property calling it theft or not self made. The basic idea is " from each according to his ability and to each according to his need". This is the same basic idea behind slavery which is why it is no coincidence that every communist nation is a slave state.
They got it from the Bible.
That is not a defense of slavery, nor does it lend legitamacy to an evil idea.

But no they did not. There is no such scripture.
Slavery is not about free-market Capitalism.

Nobody takes right-wingers seriously about any "gospel Truth". Appeals to ignorance is all right-wingers are best at.

All who believed were together and had all things in common; 45 they would sell their possessions and goods and distribute the proceeds to all, as any had need. ... Now the whole group of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one claimed private ownership of any possessions, but everything they owned was held in common. ... There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold. They laid it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need.[25]

— Acts 2:44–45, Acts 4:32–35
Please point out where the Roman government mandated this sharing.

Again: Communism can work only in small communities and strictly voluntarily.
Read some history of the Roman Empire.

Only the Religious seem to be able to make it work. Not enough morals to go around among the secular laity?
Face it, kid. You fucked up. There is no Biblical justification for the tyranny you want.
If you had enough reading comprehension you would understand it take morals for that not right-wing fantasy.
Morals to steal from people?

You do know words have meanings, right? You don't get to make up new ones?
Only right-wingers allege that. The rest of us know that the social power to Tax is delegated to our representatives to Government.
"Social power".

No such thing.

But it's HILARIOUS you believe you get to make up definitions! How insanely intellectually bankrupt! :auiqs.jpg:
The ignorance of the right-wing is astounding.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

It is accomplished via the social-ism of Government.
Government is not socialism.

Socialism is a form of government which always fails.

That is fact in your face which has been proven time again but being a dishonest and immature right winger you still cling to a proven fallacy

It doesn't always fail at all. There have been a few examples of Socialism and they have failed because they struggled to deal with some of the fundamentals. I'm not a Socialist, but the doesn't mean it can't work.

People would say Capitalism has always failed too. Look at 2008.
Capiyalism is still going strong socialism always fails.

Such a silly statement to make. How many Socialist countries have there ever been?

China. Hasn't failed
Cuba. Hasn't failed
Laos. Hasn't failed
Vietnam. Hasn't failed
Venezuela has failed insanely badly. Unless you think people eating their pets is a success.

Yes, Venezuela is failing badly.

Venezuela is a country run by people. Does this mean that ALL countries run by people will fail?

Plenty of capitalist countries have also failed. Somalia, Zimbabwe. Does this mean we should immediately stop capitalism?
Somalia is anogther failed socialist state.

Zimbabwe was barely a state at all.

Well, it was Socialist from 1969 to 1989/1991.

So, in theory it was a failed Capitalist state until 1969.

Zimbabwe actually was a pretty strong state. It had economic problems, the worst seemingly because of Mugabe's new wife. Now the crocodile's in, he seems to be a less competent leader than Mugabe (oh dear).

But whenever I went to Zimbabwe it seemed a better place than Mozambique or South Africa, less crime at least.

The point is that capitalist states also fail, and why? Because of bad leadership.

Often Socialism has failed because those implementing it are dictators. Like Pinochet in Chile, the military Junta in Argentina etc, a lot of DICTATORS FAIL.

The Socialist and the Capitalist.
Socialism does not fail because of bad leadership it fails to to inherent stupidity of the idea.

And why is it stupid, exactly?
 
1) Communism killed a hundred million people in the 20th Century.

2) Let's not give it another chance.

1) That is a vast exaggeration. I support Leon Trotsky, thus I oppose Totalitarian Communism. But these numbers are vastly exaggerated.

2) Positive Rights to food, shelter, and medical care are important.
1) No exaggeration. If anything, it's low. Your acceptance is neither sought nor required.

Communist Body Count

149,469,610​

2) Then you support slavery. Good job.
 
1) Joseph Stalin played the greatest role of any mortal in defeating Nazis and saving the World from Nazism.

2) Joseph Stalin helped create Israel.
Yes he did. Which is irrelevant as he commited even greater genocide thasn the nazis did. Saving the world from naziism in order to subject the world to communism is not doing the world a favor.

Communism is far bloodier and worse thasn naziism. What he did was akin to a serial killer stopping a mass murderer.

Communism was originally built on Equality. Sadly, it went off the original way. About 3.3 Million people died in Joseph Stalin's Penal System.


Nazism was built on the idea of Superiority and Genocide. Six Million Jews, 3.5 Million Soviet POWs and 12 Million other noncombatants were killed by Nazis. Nazism was much worse.
Communism killed a hundred million people in the 20th Century.

Let's not give it another chance.

Such a nonsense statement. Just emotion. No understanding whatsoever.
There is no rational way to make the case for Communism, unless you want millions more people dead.
 
If it hasn't worked in the past, it's not going to work in the future.

And it's never worked in the past.

That's such an illogical position to take.

Literally, if you fail at first, give up and never try again.

The problem with political systems is there are many ways to flog a horse.

You can set up Socialism in a million different ways. You can be intelligent about it and use human psychology to get the best out of workers, or you can just demand they do what they're told and use fear, or you can simply let the workers be lazy.

Each will have different results.

China is doing things much differently to the way the USSR did things, or how Cuba do things. So you'll have different results.
Unfortunately, you are speaking to an uneducated fool who doesn't understand a word you are saying. He's got a tattoo on the palm of one hand, "Capitalism, good" "Communism, bad" that he can glance at any time a political discussion arises. He has no idea of what philosophy goes into each of them or how many different ways they can be applied.
And yet, oddly, with all the ways Communism can be applied, it always winds up with tyranny and oppression.

Some people think that's a success. Some people are retarded.

Well, isn't Capitalism the same?

Hasn't the US pounded on a lot of people? Still does.
 
1) Communism killed a hundred million people in the 20th Century.

2) Let's not give it another chance.

1) That is a vast exaggeration. I support Leon Trotsky, thus I oppose Totalitarian Communism. But these numbers are vastly exaggerated.

2) Positive Rights to food, shelter, and medical care are important.
1) No exaggeration. If anything, it's low. Your acceptance is neither sought nor required.

Communist Body Count

149,469,610​

2) Then you support slavery. Good job.
How many native Americans died with no communism involved?
 
1) Joseph Stalin played the greatest role of any mortal in defeating Nazis and saving the World from Nazism.

2) Joseph Stalin helped create Israel.
Yes he did. Which is irrelevant as he commited even greater genocide thasn the nazis did. Saving the world from naziism in order to subject the world to communism is not doing the world a favor.

Communism is far bloodier and worse thasn naziism. What he did was akin to a serial killer stopping a mass murderer.

Communism was originally built on Equality. Sadly, it went off the original way. About 3.3 Million people died in Joseph Stalin's Penal System.


Nazism was built on the idea of Superiority and Genocide. Six Million Jews, 3.5 Million Soviet POWs and 12 Million other noncombatants were killed by Nazis. Nazism was much worse.
Communism killed a hundred million people in the 20th Century.

Let's not give it another chance.

Such a nonsense statement. Just emotion. No understanding whatsoever.
There is no rational way to make the case for Communism, unless you want millions more people dead.

Yeah, I'm quite sure from your perspective, and your level of thinking, that is the case.
 
1) Joseph Stalin played the greatest role of any mortal in defeating Nazis and saving the World from Nazism.

2) Joseph Stalin helped create Israel.
Yes he did. Which is irrelevant as he commited even greater genocide thasn the nazis did. Saving the world from naziism in order to subject the world to communism is not doing the world a favor.

Communism is far bloodier and worse thasn naziism. What he did was akin to a serial killer stopping a mass murderer.

Communism was originally built on Equality. Sadly, it went off the original way. About 3.3 Million people died in Joseph Stalin's Penal System.


Nazism was built on the idea of Superiority and Genocide. Six Million Jews, 3.5 Million Soviet POWs and 12 Million other noncombatants were killed by Nazis. Nazism was much worse.
Communism was built on the equality of universal slavery. Stalin murdered 20 million which was far more than 10 million or so Hitler massacred in the holocaust.

Also there is 80 million in China a million in Cambodia hundreds of thousands in communist vietnam and Cuba and N Korea.

Communism is far worse and you are failing in your efforts to spin
 
Why do Progressives never have a bad word to say about Communism or mankind's most prolific mass murders, all Communists?

Because communism has never killed anyone.
Stalin was not a communist, but a capitalist bank robber, who infiltrated the Communists, Socialists, and Anarchists, killed them all, took over, and implemented state capitalism instead.

Look at the characteristics. Communism is collaborative, cooperative, communal, and the way humans normally treat each other in small social groups like families, clubs, tribes, etc.
Those who think communism implies a large centralized state, simply do not know anything about communism.
And what Stalin implemented was not at all collaborative, cooperative, communal, or voluntary.
It was forced, state, capitalism, with purely a profit motive for the ruling elite.
Communism has killed un toldf tens of millions.

Stalin was a communist. He was not a capitalist,

Communism is totalitarian and never cooperative or communial or cllobaorative,

It is you who grapss nothing about communism and is ignorant of it.

Stalin wasn't really a Communist. Do you think Stalin gave a damn about Communism at all? What did Stalin do that was either Communist or pushing for Communism?
He was a communist through and through. he etablished the comintern specifically for the purpose of spreading communism world wide just as Marx required communism to work. He forced the entire nation to work and live in accordance with his interpretation of Marx which is precisely what the dictatorship of the proletariate is meant to do.

Well, the Comintern was established in 1919 before Stalin was a major force. Stalin was on the delegate's list, but it's not known if he actually went.

Stalin was one of those guys who'd use the system he was in in order to gain the power he wanted. Nothing seems to suggest he was a Communist.

Even the early Communists in Russia thought he might be an agent provocateur.The proven worldwide railure of socialism
Everything proves he was a communist inclluding his own admission.

Yeah, only if you see things in simple.
You mean seeing things clearly without denial

The problem is you think you're seeing things clearly, but mostly this is because you don't actually bother looking at much.
I look at it all you selectively ignore what is inconvenient.

Such as?
The fact that Stalin was a communist

Ah, so, what we seem to be dealing with is this sort of "fact" that most people "know", but haven't actually thought about.

Why, exactly, was Stalin a Communist? Just because he was leader of the USSR?
Because he stated he was and enforced communism on people as envisioned by marx. He followed the play book as directed.

So, if North Korea says it's democracy, IT'S DEMOCRATIC?????

What you have to remember about people and politics is they'll say anything and pretend to be anything to get power.

Try the anti-gay politician caught having gay sex.


"Wes Goodman: Anti-LGBT Republican politician 'caught having sex with man in his office' facing 30 sexual misconduct accusations"

Try Xi Jinping who was sent to the countryside under Mao and ran away. He literally ran away from Communism. But he wanted power, and in a one party state, if you want power, you go to the party.


"Xi Jinping has said that he experienced his political awakening when he was “sent down” to Liangjiahe in Shaanxi province,"

"But the misery of life in the impoverished village of a few dozen houses was too much for the 15-year-old Xi. Longing for his home comforts, he escaped."

People will pretend to be anything. China still has Mao on its banknotes. You have to wonder why, when it was DengXiaoPing who set up the modern China, not Mao. Mao tried to destroy China.

But he didn't enforce Communism as Marx envisioned at all.

Marxism was a classless society.

The USSR clearly had some people more equal than others.
He did enforce communism as envisioned. Marxism calls for a classless society at the end which of course is never reached in reality. However Marxism calls for and demands a new arrangement of class in society before the end is reached. That is why it calls for a dictatorship of the proletariate. Marx clearly stated despotism would be necessary while striving to reach that end. Stalin merely provided the dictatorship while striving for thaty end exactly as Marx demanded.

Once again commubnism is not the end result it is the revolution and ideology to reach that result.

Any evidence that what Stalin was doing was moving towards Communism, rather than Stalin just being in power and doing whatever he liked?
The two are the same so yes

Oh jeez. Are we really debating on such a low level?

You don't know what Communism is, do you?

You think that what you saw from the USSR, without even understand that country, is "Communism". Oh dear.
I do know what it is you lack comprehension.

I understand it better than you.

People who defend communism or apologize for it as you are doing ALWAYS have massive hubris claiming they know better when in fact you are ignoerant as hell
 
1) Joseph Stalin played the greatest role of any mortal in defeating Nazis and saving the World from Nazism.

2) Joseph Stalin helped create Israel.
Yes he did. Which is irrelevant as he commited even greater genocide thasn the nazis did. Saving the world from naziism in order to subject the world to communism is not doing the world a favor.

Communism is far bloodier and worse thasn naziism. What he did was akin to a serial killer stopping a mass murderer.

Communism was originally built on Equality. Sadly, it went off the original way. About 3.3 Million people died in Joseph Stalin's Penal System.


Nazism was built on the idea of Superiority and Genocide. Six Million Jews, 3.5 Million Soviet POWs and 12 Million other noncombatants were killed by Nazis. Nazism was much worse.
Communism killed a hundred million people in the 20th Century.

Let's not give it another chance.

Such a nonsense statement. Just emotion. No understanding whatsoever.
An accurate statement with more understanding than you possess. You are NOT better educated informed or enlightened about this subject you are strictly spi8uting knee jerk talking points
 
The basic idea is not about property calling it theft or not self made. The basic idea is " from each according to his ability and to each according to his need". This is the same basic idea behind slavery which is why it is no coincidence that every communist nation is a slave state.
They got it from the Bible.
That is not a defense of slavery, nor does it lend legitamacy to an evil idea.

But no they did not. There is no such scripture.
Slavery is not about free-market Capitalism.

Nobody takes right-wingers seriously about any "gospel Truth". Appeals to ignorance is all right-wingers are best at.

All who believed were together and had all things in common; 45 they would sell their possessions and goods and distribute the proceeds to all, as any had need. ... Now the whole group of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one claimed private ownership of any possessions, but everything they owned was held in common. ... There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold. They laid it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need.[25]

— Acts 2:44–45, Acts 4:32–35
Please point out where the Roman government mandated this sharing.

Again: Communism can work only in small communities and strictly voluntarily.
Read some history of the Roman Empire.

Only the Religious seem to be able to make it work. Not enough morals to go around among the secular laity?
Face it, kid. You fucked up. There is no Biblical justification for the tyranny you want.
If you had enough reading comprehension you would understand it take morals for that not right-wing fantasy.
Morals to steal from people?

You do know words have meanings, right? You don't get to make up new ones?
Only right-wingers allege that. The rest of us know that the social power to Tax is delegated to our representatives to Government.
"Social power".

No such thing.

But it's HILARIOUS you believe you get to make up definitions! How insanely intellectually bankrupt! :auiqs.jpg:
The ignorance of the right-wing is astounding.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

It is accomplished via the social-ism of Government.
Government is not socialism.

Socialism is a form of government which always fails.

That is fact in your face which has been proven time again but being a dishonest and immature right winger you still cling to a proven fallacy

It doesn't always fail at all. There have been a few examples of Socialism and they have failed because they struggled to deal with some of the fundamentals. I'm not a Socialist, but the doesn't mean it can't work.

People would say Capitalism has always failed too. Look at 2008.
Capiyalism is still going strong socialism always fails.

Such a silly statement to make. How many Socialist countries have there ever been?

China. Hasn't failed
Cuba. Hasn't failed
Laos. Hasn't failed
Vietnam. Hasn't failed
Venezuela has failed insanely badly. Unless you think people eating their pets is a success.

Yes, Venezuela is failing badly.

Venezuela is a country run by people. Does this mean that ALL countries run by people will fail?

Plenty of capitalist countries have also failed. Somalia, Zimbabwe. Does this mean we should immediately stop capitalism?
Somalia is anogther failed socialist state.

Zimbabwe was barely a state at all.

Well, it was Socialist from 1969 to 1989/1991.

So, in theory it was a failed Capitalist state until 1969.

Zimbabwe actually was a pretty strong state. It had economic problems, the worst seemingly because of Mugabe's new wife. Now the crocodile's in, he seems to be a less competent leader than Mugabe (oh dear).

But whenever I went to Zimbabwe it seemed a better place than Mozambique or South Africa, less crime at least.

The point is that capitalist states also fail, and why? Because of bad leadership.

Often Socialism has failed because those implementing it are dictators. Like Pinochet in Chile, the military Junta in Argentina etc, a lot of DICTATORS FAIL.

The Socialist and the Capitalist.
Socialism does not fail because of bad leadership it fails to to inherent stupidity of the idea.

And why is it stupid, exactly?
Because people are far better at solving their own problems than a central government is capable of doing.
 

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