Concealed carry gun owner in store stops three robbers...no shots fired,they run...

[PaintMyHouse]

If this John Wayne Wannabe of yours had died in the process, would he have died for a good reason? Would anything (not human) have been worthy of trading his life for, say, the money in the store?

You mean like these guys....they just beat these two men....for no reason...and during the beatings they ended up killing this man..........you mean is his life worth stopping a robbery?

79-year-old man dies after beating at Aurora club

A 79-year-old man died after he was beaten during a robbery early Sunday at a club in west suburban Aurora.

About 5:30 a.m., three masked men broke into the Latin American Club in the 1300 block of Dearborn Avenue and demanded money from two men who were cleaning the building, according to a statement from Aurora police.

The suspects attacked the men simultaneously and beat them until they were unconscious, police said.

That's rare, luckily. And had they just handed over the cash, probably wouldn't have happened.

 

[2aguy]

So..three robbers go to a convenience store to rob it......a concealed carry permit holder, with a gun stops the robbery and the robbers...all 3 of them run out of the store.......no shots fired, no one is shot, injured or killed.. One vs. 3 and the 3 ran.

now we are constantly told this does not happen...that in fact this never happens...when it happens all the time each and every day....

no robbery actually happened..so no statistic for this crime.....no one was shot...so no statistic for this crime.........

but it happened...a crime was stopped...before it became an actual crime.

[CCW IN ACTION] Armed Robbers Beat Feet After Concealed Carrier Draws Gun


NEWPORT NEWS, VIRGINIA — A concealed carrier waiting in line at a convenience store was rudely interrupted by three robbers, of which at least one was armed. According to WAVY, the three robbers walked up to the counter. One of them drew his handgun and they all announced they were committing a robbery.

Why else would they rush into a store and hold a gun pointed at the register?

“Excuse me, ladies and gentlemen, we would now like to perform a three part ballet performance for your viewing pleasure. Please don’t mind the hooded man with a gun in his hand.”

That’d never happen.

Anyhow, the concealed carrier drew his own personal handgun for self-defense. All three robbers immediately went racing out of the store.

It won’t always end so nicely but for today, let’s be thankful there was someone ready to defend himself and others.

Police believe all three suspects also match the description for a series of robberies occurring in nearby towns. From the surveillance footage, police were able to identify distinct clothing and shoes which may help lead to an arrest. Newport News police are working in conjunction with those other towns to try to identify the criminals and bring them to justice.

What, he didn't fire his gun and run away as they usually do? Tell me, was there anything, anything at all in that store worthy of a human life?

yes...the clerk, the customers........all worthy...of course.....if you guys get your way they will probably be able to abort adults too.....

You know what I meant, and since they only wanted money there was no reason to pull a gun now was there?

If this John Wayne Wannabe of yours had died in the process, would he have died for a good reason? Would anything (not human) have been worthy of trading his life for, say, the money in the store?

The lives of the clerk and the other customers......can you read?

Do you know if the robbers were going to murder the clerk or any of the other customers...after getting the money or if anyone had caused them a problem?

Robbers want money, almost without exception. That is why major chains tell their people not to fight back, or you're fired.

And answer the question: If this John Wayne Wannabe of yours had died in the process, would he have died for a good reason? Would anything (not human) have been worthy of trading his life for, say, the money in the store?

These guys gave up the money..and got shot anyway........

Baseball Fan Shot While Leaving Gun Free Stadium AFTER Complying With Robbers, No One Is Around To Protect Him | Concealed Nation

ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI — A 43-year-old man was leaving a Cardinals game at Busch Stadium with his girlfriend Saturday when the couple were robbed at gunpoint.

They complied, and were shot at while trying to run away after handing over their valuables. One of the bullets struck the 43-year-old, Christopher Sanna, in the back.

The bullet damaged Sanna’s spinal cord and it is unlikely he will ever be able to walk again.

“They said it was shattered, and no surgery could repair it,” said his mother, Candis Sanna. “They said he could eventually get a little feeling back, but there was no hope for him to walk. It’s horrible.”

This incident is a sad reminder of how compliance with an armed robber can still have devastating consequences.

“They turned to run away, but they didn’t make it very far,” Candis Sanna said. “As soon as they gave them the stuff, they were going to try to run away, but he shot them. They were within arm’s reach.”

So…….which anti gun extremist self defense technique saved this man…..let's review the 3 anti gun extremist self defense techniques as applied to this situation:

1) hope the robber who plans on shooting you after he gets your stuff is kind….

2) Hope the robber who plans on shooting you after he gets your stuff is incompetent…

3) Hope that when you are robbed by a sociopath who is going to shoot you anyway doesn't kill you because of pure, dumb luck…..

Okay…..

1) Apparently the kindness of a sociopath who was going to shoot his victim was not in evidence here

2) if the robber was planning on killing the victim…he did shoot him after all….he only shot him in the spine and crippled him for life…so a win for the anti gun extremists, no one was killed…right? And so we could say the robber was incompetent….

3) pure dumb luck…if surviving being shot, but being left paralyzed is lucky….so sure….number 3 applies as well….

 

[2aguy]

If this John Wayne Wannabe of yours had died in the process, would he have died for a good reason? Would anything (not human) have been worthy of trading his life for, say, the money in the store?

You mean like these guys....they just beat these two men....for no reason...and during the beatings they ended up killing this man..........you mean is his life worth stopping a robbery?

79-year-old man dies after beating at Aurora club

A 79-year-old man died after he was beaten during a robbery early Sunday at a club in west suburban Aurora.

About 5:30 a.m., three masked men broke into the Latin American Club in the 1300 block of Dearborn Avenue and demanded money from two men who were cleaning the building, according to a statement from Aurora police.

The suspects attacked the men simultaneously and beat them until they were unconscious, police said.

That's rare, luckily. And had they just handed over the cash, probably wouldn't have happened.

They beat them as part of the robbery.........and he died because of it.....did they mean to kill him...probably not....I guess that means he gets to come back to life...right?

So whenever a robber threatens you with death, if you don't comply you have to make the choice as to wether he means it or not.....he placed you in that position.......if you don't have a gun you don't have a choice.....

 

[2aguy]

If this John Wayne Wannabe of yours had died in the process, would he have died for a good reason? Would anything (not human) have been worthy of trading his life for, say, the money in the store?

You mean like these guys....they just beat these two men....for no reason...and during the beatings they ended up killing this man..........you mean is his life worth stopping a robbery?

79-year-old man dies after beating at Aurora club

A 79-year-old man died after he was beaten during a robbery early Sunday at a club in west suburban Aurora.

About 5:30 a.m., three masked men broke into the Latin American Club in the 1300 block of Dearborn Avenue and demanded money from two men who were cleaning the building, according to a statement from Aurora police.

The suspects attacked the men simultaneously and beat them until they were unconscious, police said.

That's rare, luckily. And had they just handed over the cash, probably wouldn't have happened.

Okay Mr. Psychic.....how do you know when your robbery is the robbery that will lead to your death or maiming........?

Can you tell by the twinkle in the criminals eye...? Or do you just feel it in your gut?

 

[2aguy]

These guys complied 2 times, on 2 different occasions to the same robbers...and the second time was the charm...they both died....

Police: Scottsdale murder suspect robbed victims 2 weeks before

A Scottsdale man accused of fatally shooting two men at their apartment complex had also robbed the victims with a gun two weeks before, court documents allege.

Michael Anthony Aston, 20, of Scottsdale, was arrested Friday in the Nov. 9 slayings of 24-year-old Martin Ellison and 22-year-old Keaton Litke at Hayden Park Apartments, near Thomas and Hayden roads.

A 17-year-old was also arrested, but his name is being withheld because he is a minor.

Aston is facing two counts of second-degree murder and 10 counts of armed robbery with a deadly weapon, all felonies, stemming from the homicides and the robbery, as well as at least one other armed robbery, court documents released Monday said.

Police were dispatched to the apartment complex Nov. 9 in response to a report of shots fired, according to a probable-cause statement from the Scottsdale Police Department. Upon arrival, they found that Litke had been shot twice and Ellison once, and both victims had blunt-force trauma to their heads.

 

[Yarddog]

If this John Wayne Wannabe of yours had died in the process, would he have died for a good reason? Would anything (not human) have been worthy of trading his life for, say, the money in the store?

Refer to post #15 thats your inconvenient truth.

 

[Yarddog]

These guys complied 2 times, on 2 different occasions to the same robbers...and the second time was the charm...they both died....

Police: Scottsdale murder suspect robbed victims 2 weeks before

A Scottsdale man accused of fatally shooting two men at their apartment complex had also robbed the victims with a gun two weeks before, court documents allege.

Michael Anthony Aston, 20, of Scottsdale, was arrested Friday in the Nov. 9 slayings of 24-year-old Martin Ellison and 22-year-old Keaton Litke at Hayden Park Apartments, near Thomas and Hayden roads.

A 17-year-old was also arrested, but his name is being withheld because he is a minor.

Aston is facing two counts of second-degree murder and 10 counts of armed robbery with a deadly weapon, all felonies, stemming from the homicides and the robbery, as well as at least one other armed robbery, court documents released Monday said.

Police were dispatched to the apartment complex Nov. 9 in response to a report of shots fired, according to a probable-cause statement from the Scottsdale Police Department. Upon arrival, they found that Litke had been shot twice and Ellison once, and both victims had blunt-force trauma to their heads.

paint doesn't give a damn about those people, he just wants to be right and win the debate

 

[SeniorChief_Polock]

How many children were shot today?

I dunno. How many babies were aborted?

Abortion is legal. Murder is illegal.

Abortion is murder so therefore it too should be illegal.

Well, sonny, our Constitution and Supreme Court say otherwise. We ain't a theocracy yet.

Slavery was legal
You'd be all for that too, racist?


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[PaintMyHouse]

If this John Wayne Wannabe of yours had died in the process, would he have died for a good reason? Would anything (not human) have been worthy of trading his life for, say, the money in the store?

You mean like these guys....they just beat these two men....for no reason...and during the beatings they ended up killing this man..........you mean is his life worth stopping a robbery?

79-year-old man dies after beating at Aurora club

A 79-year-old man died after he was beaten during a robbery early Sunday at a club in west suburban Aurora.

About 5:30 a.m., three masked men broke into the Latin American Club in the 1300 block of Dearborn Avenue and demanded money from two men who were cleaning the building, according to a statement from Aurora police.

The suspects attacked the men simultaneously and beat them until they were unconscious, police said.

That's rare, luckily. And had they just handed over the cash, probably wouldn't have happened.

Okay Mr. Psychic.....how do you know when your robbery is the robbery that will lead to your death or maiming........?

Can you tell by the twinkle in the criminals eye...? Or do you just feel it in your gut?

How do the major chains know to set their Don't Fight Back policies, it's math.

 

[2aguy]

If this John Wayne Wannabe of yours had died in the process, would he have died for a good reason? Would anything (not human) have been worthy of trading his life for, say, the money in the store?

You mean like these guys....they just beat these two men....for no reason...and during the beatings they ended up killing this man..........you mean is his life worth stopping a robbery?

79-year-old man dies after beating at Aurora club

A 79-year-old man died after he was beaten during a robbery early Sunday at a club in west suburban Aurora.

About 5:30 a.m., three masked men broke into the Latin American Club in the 1300 block of Dearborn Avenue and demanded money from two men who were cleaning the building, according to a statement from Aurora police.

The suspects attacked the men simultaneously and beat them until they were unconscious, police said.

That's rare, luckily. And had they just handed over the cash, probably wouldn't have happened.

yes....tell these victims...thought most of them are dead...because after the rape and sexual torture, and robbery...they were murdered...but one survived..........do you think she wishes she had a gun that night?

Wichita Massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Their crime spree culminated on December 14, when the Carrs invaded a home and subjected five young men and women to robbery, sexual abuse, and murder. The brothers broke into a house chosen nearly at random where Brad Heyka, Heather Muller, Aaron Sander, Jason Befort and his girlfriend, a young woman identified as 'H.G.', all in their twenties, were spending the night. They were all working adults: Befort was a local high school teacher; Heyka, a director of finance with a local financial services company; Muller, a local preschool teacher; and Sandler, a former financial analyst who had been studying to become a priest. H.G. is a teacher.

The Carrs initially scoured the house for valuables. H.G. learned of Befort's intent to propose marriage to her when the Carrs discovered the engagement ring he had hidden in a can of popcorn. After the search, the Carrs forced their hostages to strip naked, bound and detained them, and subjected them to various forms of sexual abuse, including rape and oral sex.[7] The brothers forced the men to engage in sexual acts with the women, and the women with each other. They drove the victims to ATMs to empty their bank accounts, before taking them to a snowy deserted soccer complex on the outskirts of town. There they shot the five execution-style in the backs of their heads. The Carr brothers drove Befort's truck over the bodies and left them for dead.

H.G. survived her head wound at the soccer field because her plastic barrette deflected the bullet. After the killers left, she walked naked for more than a mile in freezing weather to seek first aid and shelter at a house. Before getting medical treatment, she reported the incident and descriptions of her attackers to the couple who took her in, even before the police arrived.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Answer this: A robber shows up, with a gun, and says hand over the money and no one gets hurt. You are the store and you have a gun, do you pull, yes or no?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

These guys complied 2 times, on 2 different occasions to the same robbers...and the second time was the charm...they both died....

Police: Scottsdale murder suspect robbed victims 2 weeks before

A Scottsdale man accused of fatally shooting two men at their apartment complex had also robbed the victims with a gun two weeks before, court documents allege.

Michael Anthony Aston, 20, of Scottsdale, was arrested Friday in the Nov. 9 slayings of 24-year-old Martin Ellison and 22-year-old Keaton Litke at Hayden Park Apartments, near Thomas and Hayden roads.

A 17-year-old was also arrested, but his name is being withheld because he is a minor.

Aston is facing two counts of second-degree murder and 10 counts of armed robbery with a deadly weapon, all felonies, stemming from the homicides and the robbery, as well as at least one other armed robbery, court documents released Monday said.

Police were dispatched to the apartment complex Nov. 9 in response to a report of shots fired, according to a probable-cause statement from the Scottsdale Police Department. Upon arrival, they found that Litke had been shot twice and Ellison once, and both victims had blunt-force trauma to their heads.

paint doesn't give a damn about those people, he just wants to be right and win the debate

That's because I am right, most robbers would never kill.

Want to survive a rape, lay back and try to enjoy it. Want to survive a robbery, hand it over. It's math.

 

[2aguy]

If this John Wayne Wannabe of yours had died in the process, would he have died for a good reason? Would anything (not human) have been worthy of trading his life for, say, the money in the store?

You mean like these guys....they just beat these two men....for no reason...and during the beatings they ended up killing this man..........you mean is his life worth stopping a robbery?

79-year-old man dies after beating at Aurora club

A 79-year-old man died after he was beaten during a robbery early Sunday at a club in west suburban Aurora.

About 5:30 a.m., three masked men broke into the Latin American Club in the 1300 block of Dearborn Avenue and demanded money from two men who were cleaning the building, according to a statement from Aurora police.

The suspects attacked the men simultaneously and beat them until they were unconscious, police said.

That's rare, luckily. And had they just handed over the cash, probably wouldn't have happened.

Okay Mr. Psychic.....how do you know when your robbery is the robbery that will lead to your death or maiming........?

Can you tell by the twinkle in the criminals eye...? Or do you just feel it in your gut?

How do the major chains know to set their Don't Fight Back policies, it's math.

that is easy........they figure if you are killed, they pay off your family........and move on........So...do you base your life in the face of a robber on the policy decision of a major chain you guys will hate if they don't pay minimum wage?

 

[2aguy]

These guys complied 2 times, on 2 different occasions to the same robbers...and the second time was the charm...they both died....

Police: Scottsdale murder suspect robbed victims 2 weeks before

A Scottsdale man accused of fatally shooting two men at their apartment complex had also robbed the victims with a gun two weeks before, court documents allege.

Michael Anthony Aston, 20, of Scottsdale, was arrested Friday in the Nov. 9 slayings of 24-year-old Martin Ellison and 22-year-old Keaton Litke at Hayden Park Apartments, near Thomas and Hayden roads.

A 17-year-old was also arrested, but his name is being withheld because he is a minor.

Aston is facing two counts of second-degree murder and 10 counts of armed robbery with a deadly weapon, all felonies, stemming from the homicides and the robbery, as well as at least one other armed robbery, court documents released Monday said.

Police were dispatched to the apartment complex Nov. 9 in response to a report of shots fired, according to a probable-cause statement from the Scottsdale Police Department. Upon arrival, they found that Litke had been shot twice and Ellison once, and both victims had blunt-force trauma to their heads.

paint doesn't give a damn about those people, he just wants to be right and win the debate

That's because I am right, most robbers would never kill...

Except for the ones who do......So...how do you know which one is robbing you?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

If this John Wayne Wannabe of yours had died in the process, would he have died for a good reason? Would anything (not human) have been worthy of trading his life for, say, the money in the store?

Refer to post #15 thats your inconvenient truth.

So for you a human life is worth money or property?

 

[2aguy]

Answer this: A robber shows up, with a gun, and says hand over the money and no one gets hurt. You are the store and you have a gun, do you pull, yes or no?

Depends on the situation. You won't know till you are in it......

The Barbecue place robbery...there was a concealed carry gun owner watching the robbery....they gave the money the guy left...and the CCW gun owner told the manager he was ready to act if the robber started shooting......but chose to wait and see......

You never know........but if you don't have a gun...you can't make that choice can you?

 

[2aguy]

If this John Wayne Wannabe of yours had died in the process, would he have died for a good reason? Would anything (not human) have been worthy of trading his life for, say, the money in the store?

Refer to post #15 thats your inconvenient truth.

So for you a human life is worth money or property?

A human life is worth a human life........you still can't answer how you can tell if a robber is going to kill people.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

If this John Wayne Wannabe of yours had died in the process, would he have died for a good reason? Would anything (not human) have been worthy of trading his life for, say, the money in the store?

You mean like these guys....they just beat these two men....for no reason...and during the beatings they ended up killing this man..........you mean is his life worth stopping a robbery?

79-year-old man dies after beating at Aurora club

A 79-year-old man died after he was beaten during a robbery early Sunday at a club in west suburban Aurora.

About 5:30 a.m., three masked men broke into the Latin American Club in the 1300 block of Dearborn Avenue and demanded money from two men who were cleaning the building, according to a statement from Aurora police.

The suspects attacked the men simultaneously and beat them until they were unconscious, police said.

That's rare, luckily. And had they just handed over the cash, probably wouldn't have happened.

Okay Mr. Psychic.....how do you know when your robbery is the robbery that will lead to your death or maiming........?

Can you tell by the twinkle in the criminals eye...? Or do you just feel it in your gut?

How do the major chains know to set their Don't Fight Back policies, it's math.

that is easy........they figure if you are killed, they pay off your family........and move on........So...do you base your life in the face of a robber on the policy decision of a major chain you guys will hate if they don't pay minimum wage?

I base my life on acting, and thinking, rationally, not though emotions like you.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The Barbecue place robbery...there was a concealed carry gun owner watching the robbery....they gave the money the guy left...and the CCW gun owner told the manager he was ready to act if the robber started shooting......but chose to wait and see......

That was the correct response, which you probably wouldn't make, John Wayne.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

A human life is worth a human life........you still can't answer how you can tell if a robber is going to kill people.

You can't but they almost never do. Life is about odds, especially when setting policy for society.