Confederate flag wavers, Traitors to America

These days it is the symbol of the white grievance movement and has almost nothing to do with the old confederacy.
FALSE! It is southern heritage, and respect for the hundreds of thousands of Confederate soldiers (military and civilian, black & white) who died DEFENDING their towns, homes, farms, etc.
If the rebel flag was ever anything good the racists ruined it. No one who supposedly cared about the rebel flag lifted a finger or said a word when the white supremacists co-opted it for their hateful purposes. Now that it is forever associated with organized violent racism it is way too late to salvage it. At this point anyone waving it in public knows what it means now.
Fuck you! I'll hoist it tomorrow, what you gonna do, boy?
Sadly shake my head and pity your ignorance.
Fuck you and your virtue signal going out, commie puke!
Fuck you and your loser flag you fucking loser. My family fought for the South and you know what they got? Generations of subsistence sharecropper misery. The rich slave owners stayed rich and made slaves of the poor. Black and white. That flag was part of a big lie told to get the white trash fighting for someone else's bottom line. In a history context that's what the rebel flag means to me.
A black man who is the son of one of those sharecroppers now owns at least 160 acres of what used to be my family's land. He bought ours and the neighbor's up.
What he doesn't own is what we donated to something else.
Sounds like they were losers to begin with. My family fought for the south because we're from Florida.
We owned the land and sublet to some sharecroppers and worked the rest ourselves.
I'm originally from Alabama. My family picked another man's cotton all the way up until the new deal made it possible to get a real job. We owe nothing to the assholes who started the civil war for their own callous purposes.
You’re referring to Dishonest Abe for starting the War of Northern Aggression, right?
 
These days it is the symbol of the white grievance movement and has almost nothing to do with the old confederacy.
FALSE! It is southern heritage, and respect for the hundreds of thousands of Confederate soldiers (military and civilian, black & white) who died DEFENDING their towns, homes, farms, etc.
If the rebel flag was ever anything good the racists ruined it. No one who supposedly cared about the rebel flag lifted a finger or said a word when the white supremacists co-opted it for their hateful purposes. Now that it is forever associated with organized violent racism it is way too late to salvage it. At this point anyone waving it in public knows what it means now.
Fuck you! I'll hoist it tomorrow, what you gonna do, boy?
Sadly shake my head and pity your ignorance.
Fuck you and your virtue signal going out, commie puke!
Fuck you and your loser flag you fucking loser. My family fought for the South and you know what they got? Generations of subsistence sharecropper misery. The rich slave owners stayed rich and made slaves of the poor. Black and white. That flag was part of a big lie told to get the white trash fighting for someone else's bottom line. In a history context that's what the rebel flag means to me.
A black man who is the son of one of those sharecroppers now owns at least 160 acres of what used to be my family's land. He bought ours and the neighbor's up.
What he doesn't own is what we donated to something else.
Sounds like they were losers to begin with. My family fought for the south because we're from Florida.
We owned the land and sublet to some sharecroppers and worked the rest ourselves.
I'm originally from Alabama. My family picked another man's cotton all the way up until the new deal made it possible to get a real job. We owe nothing to the assholes who started the civil war for their own callous purposes.
You’re referring to Dishonest Abe for starting the War of Northern Aggression, right?
LOL.That troll is a golden oldie of the internet. Sadly I do not have time this morning.
 
These days it is the symbol of the white grievance movement and has almost nothing to do with the old confederacy.
FALSE! It is southern heritage, and respect for the hundreds of thousands of Confederate soldiers (military and civilian, black & white) who died DEFENDING their towns, homes, farms, etc.
If the rebel flag was ever anything good the racists ruined it. No one who supposedly cared about the rebel flag lifted a finger or said a word when the white supremacists co-opted it for their hateful purposes. Now that it is forever associated with organized violent racism it is way too late to salvage it. At this point anyone waving it in public knows what it means now.
Fuck you! I'll hoist it tomorrow, what you gonna do, boy?
Sadly shake my head and pity your ignorance.
Fuck you and your virtue signal going out, commie puke!
Fuck you and your loser flag you fucking loser. My family fought for the South and you know what they got? Generations of subsistence sharecropper misery. The rich slave owners stayed rich and made slaves of the poor. Black and white. That flag was part of a big lie told to get the white trash fighting for someone else's bottom line. In a history context that's what the rebel flag means to me.
A black man who is the son of one of those sharecroppers now owns at least 160 acres of what used to be my family's land. He bought ours and the neighbor's up.
What he doesn't own is what we donated to something else.
Sounds like they were losers to begin with. My family fought for the south because we're from Florida.
We owned the land and sublet to some sharecroppers and worked the rest ourselves.
I'm originally from Alabama. My family picked another man's cotton all the way up until the new deal made it possible to get a real job. We owe nothing to the assholes who started the civil war for their own callous purposes.
You’re referring to Dishonest Abe for starting the War of Northern Aggression, right?
LOL.That troll is a golden oldie of the internet. Sadly I do not have time this morning.
I’m sorry you’re so misinformed.
 
These days it is the symbol of the white grievance movement and has almost nothing to do with the old confederacy.
FALSE! It is southern heritage, and respect for the hundreds of thousands of Confederate soldiers (military and civilian, black & white) who died DEFENDING their towns, homes, farms, etc.
If the rebel flag was ever anything good the racists ruined it. No one who supposedly cared about the rebel flag lifted a finger or said a word when the white supremacists co-opted it for their hateful purposes. Now that it is forever associated with organized violent racism it is way too late to salvage it. At this point anyone waving it in public knows what it means now.
Fuck you! I'll hoist it tomorrow, what you gonna do, boy?
Sadly shake my head and pity your ignorance.
Fuck you and your virtue signal going out, commie puke!
Fuck you and your loser flag you fucking loser. My family fought for the South and you know what they got? Generations of subsistence sharecropper misery. The rich slave owners stayed rich and made slaves of the poor. Black and white. That flag was part of a big lie told to get the white trash fighting for someone else's bottom line. In a history context that's what the rebel flag means to me.
A black man who is the son of one of those sharecroppers now owns at least 160 acres of what used to be my family's land. He bought ours and the neighbor's up.
What he doesn't own is what we donated to something else.
Sounds like they were losers to begin with. My family fought for the south because we're from Florida.
We owned the land and sublet to some sharecroppers and worked the rest ourselves.
I'm originally from Alabama. My family picked another man's cotton all the way up until the new deal made it possible to get a real job. We owe nothing to the assholes who started the civil war for their own callous purposes.
You’re referring to Dishonest Abe for starting the War of Northern Aggression, right?
LOL.That troll is a golden oldie of the internet. Sadly I do not have time this morning.
I’m sorry you’re so misinformed.
You believe that Lincoln started the war by firing at Fort Sumter. Who is it that`s uninformed?
 
These days it is the symbol of the white grievance movement and has almost nothing to do with the old confederacy.
FALSE! It is southern heritage, and respect for the hundreds of thousands of Confederate soldiers (military and civilian, black & white) who died DEFENDING their towns, homes, farms, etc.
If the rebel flag was ever anything good the racists ruined it. No one who supposedly cared about the rebel flag lifted a finger or said a word when the white supremacists co-opted it for their hateful purposes. Now that it is forever associated with organized violent racism it is way too late to salvage it. At this point anyone waving it in public knows what it means now.
Fuck you! I'll hoist it tomorrow, what you gonna do, boy?
Sadly shake my head and pity your ignorance.
Fuck you and your virtue signal going out, commie puke!
Fuck you and your loser flag you fucking loser. My family fought for the South and you know what they got? Generations of subsistence sharecropper misery. The rich slave owners stayed rich and made slaves of the poor. Black and white. That flag was part of a big lie told to get the white trash fighting for someone else's bottom line. In a history context that's what the rebel flag means to me.
A black man who is the son of one of those sharecroppers now owns at least 160 acres of what used to be my family's land. He bought ours and the neighbor's up.
What he doesn't own is what we donated to something else.
Sounds like they were losers to begin with. My family fought for the south because we're from Florida.
We owned the land and sublet to some sharecroppers and worked the rest ourselves.
I'm originally from Alabama. My family picked another man's cotton all the way up until the new deal made it possible to get a real job. We owe nothing to the assholes who started the civil war for their own callous purposes.
You’re referring to Dishonest Abe for starting the War of Northern Aggression, right?
LOL.That troll is a golden oldie of the internet. Sadly I do not have time this morning.
I’m sorry you’re so misinformed.
You believe that Lincoln started the war by firing at Fort Sumter. Who is it that`s uninformed?
So you think Lincoln was right to invade the South, causing 850,000 dead Americans and destruction of half the nation along with destroying the Constitution, because SC fired a few shells on a fort in their territory in which no one died.

Is that right?
 
These days it is the symbol of the white grievance movement and has almost nothing to do with the old confederacy.
FALSE! It is southern heritage, and respect for the hundreds of thousands of Confederate soldiers (military and civilian, black & white) who died DEFENDING their towns, homes, farms, etc.
If the rebel flag was ever anything good the racists ruined it. No one who supposedly cared about the rebel flag lifted a finger or said a word when the white supremacists co-opted it for their hateful purposes. Now that it is forever associated with organized violent racism it is way too late to salvage it. At this point anyone waving it in public knows what it means now.
Fuck you! I'll hoist it tomorrow, what you gonna do, boy?
Sadly shake my head and pity your ignorance.
Fuck you and your virtue signal going out, commie puke!
Fuck you and your loser flag you fucking loser. My family fought for the South and you know what they got? Generations of subsistence sharecropper misery. The rich slave owners stayed rich and made slaves of the poor. Black and white. That flag was part of a big lie told to get the white trash fighting for someone else's bottom line. In a history context that's what the rebel flag means to me.
A black man who is the son of one of those sharecroppers now owns at least 160 acres of what used to be my family's land. He bought ours and the neighbor's up.
What he doesn't own is what we donated to something else.
Sounds like they were losers to begin with. My family fought for the south because we're from Florida.
We owned the land and sublet to some sharecroppers and worked the rest ourselves.
I'm originally from Alabama. My family picked another man's cotton all the way up until the new deal made it possible to get a real job. We owe nothing to the assholes who started the civil war for their own callous purposes.
You’re referring to Dishonest Abe for starting the War of Northern Aggression, right?
LOL.That troll is a golden oldie of the internet. Sadly I do not have time this morning.
I’m sorry you’re so misinformed.
You believe that Lincoln started the war by firing at Fort Sumter. Who is it that`s uninformed?
Who believes that? :cuckoo:
 
The civil war actually started in Kansas. No one who had witnessed the border skirmishes was under the impression that the confederacy was going to be a peaceful neighbor. They had some pretty grand imperialistic plans that few talk about these days. War with the south was a certainty.
 
These days it is the symbol of the white grievance movement and has almost nothing to do with the old confederacy.
FALSE! It is southern heritage, and respect for the hundreds of thousands of Confederate soldiers (military and civilian, black & white) who died DEFENDING their towns, homes, farms, etc.
If the rebel flag was ever anything good the racists ruined it. No one who supposedly cared about the rebel flag lifted a finger or said a word when the white supremacists co-opted it for their hateful purposes. Now that it is forever associated with organized violent racism it is way too late to salvage it. At this point anyone waving it in public knows what it means now.
Fuck you! I'll hoist it tomorrow, what you gonna do, boy?
Sadly shake my head and pity your ignorance.
Fuck you and your virtue signal going out, commie puke!
Fuck you and your loser flag you fucking loser. My family fought for the South and you know what they got? Generations of subsistence sharecropper misery. The rich slave owners stayed rich and made slaves of the poor. Black and white. That flag was part of a big lie told to get the white trash fighting for someone else's bottom line. In a history context that's what the rebel flag means to me.
A black man who is the son of one of those sharecroppers now owns at least 160 acres of what used to be my family's land. He bought ours and the neighbor's up.
What he doesn't own is what we donated to something else.
Sounds like they were losers to begin with. My family fought for the south because we're from Florida.
We owned the land and sublet to some sharecroppers and worked the rest ourselves.
I'm originally from Alabama. My family picked another man's cotton all the way up until the new deal made it possible to get a real job. We owe nothing to the assholes who started the civil war for their own callous purposes.
Well I'm sorry for ya. :dunno:
My folks didn't either, but went and fought just the same.
 
The civil war actually started in Kansas. No one who had witnessed the border skirmishes was under the impression that the confederacy was going to be a peaceful neighbor. They had some pretty grand imperialistic plans that few talk about these days. War with the south was a certainty.


interesting claim. could you expand on that?
 
The civil war actually started in Kansas. No one who had witnessed the border skirmishes was under the impression that the confederacy was going to be a peaceful neighbor. They had some pretty grand imperialistic plans that few talk about these days. War with the south was a certainty.


interesting claim. could you expand on that?
About time to go to work but the history is there. Google "bleeding Kansas". The civil war cannot be viewed out of context with the stated goal and the low level armed conflict to bring slavery to the west before the official start of the civil war.
 
I'm sorry that your family was poor and picked cotton. My father's family arrived in NYC in the 1840's.
What does this have to do with holding other people as slaves? People who were held in bondage wanted a life, too. Where any of your ancestors enslaved?

Hysteria - upper west side, but WOKE yo...

Hysteria, have you ever heard of a small nation called "Rome?" One source Rome relied on for massive slave labor was Britannia. Another was Gaul (France) and Thrace (Germany)

Every culture on earth has been held in bondage, We ALL - even a pampered little wasp like you - have ancestors who were slaves.
 
The civil war actually started in Kansas. No one who had witnessed the border skirmishes was under the impression that the confederacy was going to be a peaceful neighbor. They had some pretty grand imperialistic plans that few talk about these days. War with the south was a certainty.

The first American civil was was started by John Brown and his raiders.
 
It isn't revisionist. It's just history. They were traitors. Yet we built statues and monuments to them. I asked my history teacher more than 40 years ago why we did this and even back then, he didn't have a good answer for me.
Now we know they were largely monuments to slavery.

You're a traitor - so why do you have a beef with earlier traitors?

Sounds like your history teacher was a moron. We have statues of Genghis Khan not to celebrate but to remember. Those who erase the past and refuse to learn are destined to be democrat toads pimping for Communist China.

Why can't these guys be "remembered" in museums and history books? We all know what they did. What did this supposedly great Confederate ideology consist of aside from promoting and preserving the practice of enslaving other human beings?
Fighting for fairness for those around them. I do not expect you to understand that. Your world is too obtuse and filled with commie propaganda and crazy for that to happen.
They gave it a helluva fight, too.
So you think that the confederates were fighting for "fairness for those around them" when they were fighting for the ideology of holding people enslaved against their will? I ask you whether you would voluntarily be a slave? would you join your white brothers and sisters in working in the cotton fields and the rice fields for no pay and enjoy being beaten and yous sisters raped? In short: would you voluntarily give your own life? Do you know how the people forced to do this were feeling? Did they give their lives up out of pure altruism so that the guys in the mansion could afford the high life?
Fuck you! My family has picked cotton.
We owned the house and the land and picked the cotton our damn selves.
Yeah, some of the kids didn't like it so much, but they liked to eat.
Trying to get on some kind of moral high horse because you've never done a day of work?
I say that's to your detriment.
Lincoln's war was the war of Northern Aggression. The only thing that ended it was Yankee Sherman's atrocities committed on innocent people on his "march to the sea". That had to stop, even if it meant surrendering, just stop the nastiness.
Ask old people in Georgia...they know.
They didn't care to come this far south, that would involve a lot of quicksand and gators n snakes n stuff.
The shill always get desperate.lol
 
These days it is the symbol of the white grievance movement and has almost nothing to do with the old confederacy.
FALSE! It is southern heritage, and respect for the hundreds of thousands of Confederate soldiers (military and civilian, black & white) who died DEFENDING their towns, homes, farms, etc.
If the rebel flag was ever anything good the racists ruined it. No one who supposedly cared about the rebel flag lifted a finger or said a word when the white supremacists co-opted it for their hateful purposes. Now that it is forever associated with organized violent racism it is way too late to salvage it. At this point anyone waving it in public knows what it means now.
Only the sheep like yourself and the op who can’t come to grips with reality they were brainwashed in school say that propaganda of the governments,lol
 
These days it is the symbol of the white grievance movement and has almost nothing to do with the old confederacy.
FALSE! It is southern heritage, and respect for the hundreds of thousands of Confederate soldiers (military and civilian, black & white) who died DEFENDING their towns, homes, farms, etc.
If the rebel flag was ever anything good the racists ruined it. No one who supposedly cared about the rebel flag lifted a finger or said a word when the white supremacists co-opted it for their hateful purposes. Now that it is forever associated with organized violent racism it is way too late to salvage it. At this point anyone waving it in public knows what it means now.
Fuck you! I'll hoist it tomorrow, what you gonna do, boy?
Sadly shake my head and pity your ignorance.
Fuck you and your virtue signal going out, commie puke!
Fuck you and your loser flag you fucking loser. My family fought for the South and you know what they got? Generations of subsistence sharecropper misery. The rich slave owners stayed rich and made slaves of the poor. Black and white. That flag was part of a big lie told to get the white trash fighting for someone else's bottom line. In a history context that's what the rebel flag means to me.
There you go parroting the lies of the revionists again.
 
Why was the Civil War fought? Because Black Lives Matter.
No it was fought because Lincoln refused to allow the South to secede. He ignorantly believed the Union was perpetual. He also cared not one iota about blacks and intended to deport them all, until Booth thankfully saved us from that injustice.
 
Ah yes, the ignorant revised Communist-indoctrinated version of history once again makes it to the limelight.

It isn't revisionist. It's just history. They were traitors. Yet we built statues and monuments to them. I asked my history teacher more than 40 years ago why we did this and even back then, he didn't have a good answer for me.
Now we know they were largely monuments to slavery.

TAXES (Yes, the northern states were abusing the southern states and taxing them to death before the civil war)-states rights verses federal rights--and drunk uneducated south carolina soldiers or soldier. You should have told your history teacher that they were dumb to teach history and then visited some civil war sights and statues such as can be found at fort sumpter.

This is a load of utter revisionist bullshit. The Civil War was about slavery and the end or continuation of it. Period. Southerners chose to secede and form the Confederacy. Which makes them traitors. Who shouldn't have monuments and statues built for them. Those should be in a museum where history can be explained in context. End of story.
 
It isn't revisionist. It's just history. They were traitors. Yet we built statues and monuments to them. I asked my history teacher more than 40 years ago why we did this and even back then, he didn't have a good answer for me.
Now we know they were largely monuments to slavery.

You're a traitor - so why do you have a beef with earlier traitors?

Sounds like your history teacher was a moron. We have statues of Genghis Khan not to celebrate but to remember. Those who erase the past and refuse to learn are destined to be democrat toads pimping for Communist China.

Why can't these guys be "remembered" in museums and history books? We all know what they did. What did this supposedly great Confederate ideology consist of aside from promoting and preserving the practice of enslaving other human beings?
Fighting for fairness for those around them. I do not expect you to understand that. Your world is too obtuse and filled with commie propaganda and crazy for that to happen.
They gave it a helluva fight, too.
So you think that the confederates were fighting for "fairness for those around them" when they were fighting for the ideology of holding people enslaved against their will? I ask you whether you would voluntarily be a slave? would you join your white brothers and sisters in working in the cotton fields and the rice fields for no pay and enjoy being beaten and yous sisters raped? In short: would you voluntarily give your own life? Do you know how the people forced to do this were feeling? Did they give their lives up out of pure altruism so that the guys in the mansion could afford the high life?
Fuck you! My family has picked cotton.
We owned the house and the land and picked the cotton our damn selves.
Yeah, some of the kids didn't like it so much, but they liked to eat.
Trying to get on some kind of moral high horse because you've never done a day of work?
I say that's to your detriment.
Lincoln's war was the war of Northern Aggression. The only thing that ended it was Yankee Sherman's atrocities committed on innocent people on his "march to the sea". That had to stop, even if it meant surrendering, just stop the nastiness.
Ask old people in Georgia...they know.
They didn't care to come this far south, that would involve a lot of quicksand and gators n snakes n stuff.
I'm sorry that your family was poor and picked cotton. My father's family arrived in NYC in the 1840's.
What does this have to do with holding other people as slaves? People who were held in bondage wanted a life, too. Where any of your ancestors enslaved?
No. My family came here way before 1840 and farmed, in Florida. From French royalty to florida..whee!
Sounds like your ancestors owned slaves!
So why would you side with folks who enslaved others and wanted to continue to do so? My earliest ancestors came from Ireland to NYC in the 1840s. Chance of owning slaves? Zero.

Again: where are the voices of those who whose ancestors where actually enslaved? Let them speak. This should not be very hard for you, since your family did not own any slaves.
 

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