Confederate Memorial at Arlington will be removed despite GOP opposition

[Robert W]

There you go again. Democrats? All? please

Good point. Not all Democrats hated republicans in 1861 and there are a few of them, such as those who bolted from the Democrats who have proved they left hate.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Robert W, you talk too much. Obviously you can't sell this.

 

[Synthaholic]

But no new oil exploration or expansion of refining capability is going on

Maybe Foxfyre can explain why Trump sold America's largest oil refinery to Saudi Arabia?

Saudis take 100% control of America's largest oil refinery

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Maybe Foxfyre can explain why Trump sold America's largest oil refinery to Saudi Arabia?

Saudis take 100% control of America's largest oil refinery

It was a hidden Trump deal.

 

[Robert W]

You learned wrong, chum.

A good education should include the willingness to learn even things one assumed are otherwise. And you chum are stuck in kindergarten.

 

[Foxfyre]

You should quit while you are behind.

Biden Administration Approves Huge Alaska Oil Project (Published 2023)

The administration also announced new limits on Arctic drilling in an apparent effort to temper criticism over the $8 billion Willow oil project, which has faced sharp opposition.

www.nytimes.com

Biden Administration Expands the Gulf's Waters to Oil and Gas Drilling

The region's communities and marine life will continue to be exposed to the catastrophic risk and ongoing damage of these inherently hazardous industrial operations at sea.

www.nrdc.org

Biden Administration Oil, Gas Drilling Approvals Outpace Trump’s

Center for Biological Diversity: Massive Fossil Fuel Expansion Undermines U.S. Climate Commitments

biologicaldiversity.org

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/09/29/biden-offshore-oil-drilling-climate/

Biden backs new offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. Scaled-back plan disappoints all sides

President Joe Biden's administration has proposed up to three oil and gas lease sales in the Gulf of Mexico over the next five years but none in Alaska.

apnews.com

Now read up on stockpiling permits, how if they aren't used they go bye bye. If oil companies take advantage of the opened territory great. But given that it is darn near inaccessible, I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Remind us again

What does Bingo mean in the ghetto?

Is it anything like a gigaboo or a darkie?

Worse. He made it up. He has a defect called idioglossia. It might be because of stroke or other TIA event.

 

[Foxfyre]

Foxfyre still hasn't explained how she is unaware of Biden turning America into the largest energy producer in the world, outpacing Russia and Saudi Arabia.

Again, is it stupidity, ignorance, or just blatant lying? It must be one of the three.

Maybe Foxfyre didn't explain it because Biden didn't have anything to do with it.

Now would you please re-read the OP and return to the topic of this thread? Thank you.

 

[Robert W]

Maybe Foxfyre can explain why Trump sold America's largest oil refinery to Saudi Arabia?

Saudis take 100% control of America's largest oil refinery

Trump did not do it. The Dutch did it. And the history of this is here.

The Saudis assumed control over Aramco when Carter was president in 1980. Guess you will now want to blame President Carter!!!!

Our history

Aramco Americas has called Houston home since 1974, but our history reaches even farther back and includes some of the biggest names in oil.

americas.aramco.com

 

[whitehall]

The ironic thing is that Arlington belonged to Rebert E. Lee. It was seized for non payment of taxes.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Absolutely nothing. It's our history, the Confederacy lost but they fought for their beliefs.

I don't understand why history needs to be eradicated. Like the Holocaust, it happened, learn from it, that's what history is about

Rudimentary civilizations normally obliterate history prior to their rise. The Aztecs did it. Egyptians did it. Mao did it called the eradication the four olds.
Conceived of as a "revolution to touch people's souls," the aim of the Cultural Revolution was to attack the Four Olds-- old ideas, old culture, old customs, and old habits--in order to bring the areas of education, art and literature in line with Communist ideology.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Book Review | Conservatism: A Rediscovery, by Yoram Hazony

Reviewed by Anthony A. Peacock | Francis Fukuyama's concept of the 'end of history,' made famous in his 1992 book of the same name, brought the idea of 'liberal democracy' to center stage in American and international politics. Although liberal democracy had always defined the American...

www.independent.org

Many of Fukuyama’s critics were simply confused about what he meant by the “end of history.” They assumed he was proposing that history had simply “stopped” and that no more political regimes would emerge that would challenge liberal democracy in the twentieth or twenty-first centuries, regimes such as present-day China, Russia, North Korea, or Iran. As Fukuyama made clear both in 1992 and many times thereafter, that was not what he meant.

Arguably the more serious attacks on Fukuyama’s book were those that challenged the very ideas of classical liberal thought that were at the root of liberal democracy. These have generally been from the academic left, where one might expect such assessments to originate. However, more recently they have also emerged from the academic right, which had traditionally defended classical liberalism. Perhaps the most prominent of the latter has been Patrick Deneen’s Why Liberalism Failed (New Haven, Conn.: Yale University Press, 2018; with new preface, 2019). Deneen’s book was intended to assuage those eager to know why at the “end of history” liberalism no longer was ascendant or even appeared inevitable. To be sure, Why Liberalism Failed highlighted the shortcomings of the progressive varieties of liberalism. But its central theme consisted of a comprehensive indictment of classical liberalism itself, of the internal contradictions and other inadequacies of the classical liberal theoretical and political project. Of particular prominence in Deneen’s charges was the idea of the autonomous, self-governing individual who was, contrary to ancient and traditional Christian understandings of liberty, intended to remain free of social and customary constraints save those imposed by duly enacted laws necessary to the maintenance of the liberal political order. This thin concept of the individual in political society on Deneen’s reading disregarded those social and cultural elements that made up “thick” communities and that were so essential to the functioning of democracy. Liberalism deconstructed and ultimately eviscerated those very institutions and practices that democracy needed to survive. Liberalism had failed in short precisely because it had succeeded so spectacularly at its own theoretical and political enterprise.

Patrick Deneen - academic right? Huh?

Article's author: Reviewed by Anthony A. Peacock - Utah State University

I myself, Dante would use all these links to flush out what is really being claimed in the opinion of Peacock, and discovering what is to me true and factual, and what is... _______________________(fill in the blank).

Patrick Deneen (author) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Front Porch Republic - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Patrick J. - Deneen // Department of Political Science // University of Notre Dame

Notre Dame’s Political Science Department offers graduate and undergraduate programs in five subfields: American politics, comparative politics, international relations, political theory, and constitutional law and politics.

politicalscience.nd.edu

The End of History and the Last Man - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Francis Fukuyama Postpones the End of History

The political scientist argues that the desire of identity groups for recognition is a key threat to liberalism.

www.newyorker.com

The End of History: Francis Fukuyama's controversial idea explained

It’s a phrase often bandied around – but what does it mean? And how relevant is the notion of ‘the end of history’ today?

theconversation.com

More Proof That This Really Is the End of History

Over the past year, it has become evident that there are key weaknesses at the core of seemingly strong authoritarian states.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Foxfyre]

Maybe Foxfyre can explain why Trump sold America's largest oil refinery to Saudi Arabia?

Saudis take 100% control of America's largest oil refinery

Maybe Foxfyre didn't explain it because Trump didn't sell it to Saudi Arabia. None of it was American owned.

The thread topic is destruction of American history.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Good point. Not all Democrats hated republicans in 1861 and there are a few of them, such as those who bolted from the Democrats who have proved they left hate.

and the racists who bolted from the Democratic Party to become Republicans?

Southern strategy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Robert W]

The ironic thing is that Arlington belonged to Rebert E. Lee. It was seized for non payment of taxes.

And the Supreme Court ruled against the Feds in 1882.

Neither Robert E. Lee nor his wife, as title holder, ever attempted to recover control of Arlington House. In 1874, Lee's eldest son, George Washington Custis Lee, sued the U.S. government for the return of the Arlington property, claiming that it had been illegally confiscated. In December 1882, the Supreme Court ruled in Lee's favor. A few months later, in March 1883, the federal government purchased the property from Lee for $150,000 (over $4 million today), and Arlington National Cemetery continued its mission as a burial ground for U.S. service members and their families.

 

[bripat9643]

Exactly what happened

Those cities in the South voted to erect monuments to the Confederacy in the early 1900s. Problem was that black members of those communities, even when in a majority, were not allowed to vote.

Fast forward a hundred years and the majority black populations in those communities are no longer fond of those monuments and vote to have them removed

Democracy in action

No one ever voted to have the monuments removed, dumbass. Politicians are afraid to have such a vote because they know it would fail.

 

[bripat9643]

and the racists who bolted from the Democratic Party to become Republicans?

Southern strategy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

No such animal, dumbass.

 

[Robert W]

Maybe Foxfyre didn't explain it because Trump didn't sell it to Saudi Arabia. None of it was American owned.

The thread topic is destruction of American history.

Shell Dutch oil sold their interest to Aramco and as you said, Trump was never involved.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

No such animal, dumbass.

Peanut Gallery is here...

Lee Atwater - Dog Whistles & a Southern Strategy

Exclusive: Lee Atwater’s Infamous 1981 Interview on the Southern Strategy

The forty-two-minute recording, acquired by James Carter IV, confirms Atwater’s incendiary remarks and places them in context.

www.thenation.com

You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nig-ger, nig-ger, nig-ger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nig-ger”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nig-ger, nig-ger.”

 

[bripat9643]

There are clauses in the Constitution detailing the procedure to become a state.
There are none detailing how to withdraw from the union.

The Articles of Secession voted on by Confederate States identified slavery as the key reason for secession

Lincoln didn't invade Virginia to end slavery, dumbass. He said so on numerous occasions.