Congress Can Remove Donald Trump From Office Without Impeaching Him

[Eloy]

Let us return to the topic of the thread. "He did this, he didn't do that, I don't like this policy, I hate that proposal . . ." I don't care. Doesn't matter. Liking or disliking the man or his policies proves nothing either way about mental health. Likewise, the opinions of a bunch of biased, unethical doctors who've never met him, let alone treated him in a professional capacity, means nothing except that I certainly would not seek treatment from them for anything, and they should probably all be up in front of a medical review board.

The fact remains that the 25th Amendment provides only for a transition of power in the event the President is completely incapacitated, and it sets the bar extremely high on the definition of "incapacitated". Like it or not, holding political views that you disagree with or being a boorish ass in general do not qualify as "incapacitated". Even being an utterly abysmal President - if that were, in fact, to happen - does not qualify as "incapacitated". That would still require you to impeach him.

So the 25th Amendment is not going to provide you a clever little workaround to invalidate a legal election. If you can't deal with that, then I'd say it's not Donald Trump who has the mental illness.

You are right about a mental disorder being insufficient grounds for removal of an American president.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Let us return to the topic of the thread. "He did this, he didn't do that, I don't like this policy, I hate that proposal . . ." I don't care. Doesn't matter. Liking or disliking the man or his policies proves nothing either way about mental health. Likewise, the opinions of a bunch of biased, unethical doctors who've never met him, let alone treated him in a professional capacity, means nothing except that I certainly would not seek treatment from them for anything, and they should probably all be up in front of a medical review board.

The fact remains that the 25th Amendment provides only for a transition of power in the event the President is completely incapacitated, and it sets the bar extremely high on the definition of "incapacitated". Like it or not, holding political views that you disagree with or being a boorish ass in general do not qualify as "incapacitated". Even being an utterly abysmal President - if that were, in fact, to happen - does not qualify as "incapacitated". That would still require you to impeach him.

So the 25th Amendment is not going to provide you a clever little workaround to invalidate a legal election. If you can't deal with that, then I'd say it's not Donald Trump who has the mental illness.

You are right about a mental disorder being insufficient grounds for removal of an American president.

I didn't say that. I said disagreeing with him and disliking him weren't proof of him having a mental disorder.

I expect that if the President started displaying serious schizophrenia or dissociative disorder or something, the necessary people would have him declared incapacitated. But being an asshole is a behavior problem, not a mental disorder, and certainly not incapacitating.

 

[Yarddog]

Trump does have serious mental issues, why haven't you figured that out by now

You bed wetters have ZERO credibility as judges of mental stability when you keep trying to make your regressive policies "work". City after city in the US is going to shit, thanks to democrooks. States going bankrupt just trying to keep up with federal mandates, entire countries turned into nightmarish distopian hell holes. The world is watching oil rich venezuela on a mad dash down the shitter, and there are insipid drones like you advancing the same regressive idiocy over and over.

You're either weapons grade stupid, or batshit crazy. Then again look at some of the utter imbeciles you parasites elect over and over.

Johnson is a complete ASS and appears to be crazy in his lack rudimentary common sense. Point well taken

 

[Eloy]

Let us return to the topic of the thread. "He did this, he didn't do that, I don't like this policy, I hate that proposal . . ." I don't care. Doesn't matter. Liking or disliking the man or his policies proves nothing either way about mental health. Likewise, the opinions of a bunch of biased, unethical doctors who've never met him, let alone treated him in a professional capacity, means nothing except that I certainly would not seek treatment from them for anything, and they should probably all be up in front of a medical review board.

The fact remains that the 25th Amendment provides only for a transition of power in the event the President is completely incapacitated, and it sets the bar extremely high on the definition of "incapacitated". Like it or not, holding political views that you disagree with or being a boorish ass in general do not qualify as "incapacitated". Even being an utterly abysmal President - if that were, in fact, to happen - does not qualify as "incapacitated". That would still require you to impeach him.

So the 25th Amendment is not going to provide you a clever little workaround to invalidate a legal election. If you can't deal with that, then I'd say it's not Donald Trump who has the mental illness.

You are right about a mental disorder being insufficient grounds for removal of an American president.

I didn't say that. I said disagreeing with him and disliking him weren't proof of him having a mental disorder.

I expect that if the President started displaying serious schizophrenia or dissociative disorder or something, the necessary people would have him declared incapacitated. But being an asshole is a behavior problem, not a mental disorder, and certainly not incapacitating.

Not all mental disorders incapacitate a person. There are highly functioning narcissists of whom Donald Trump is one.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Let us return to the topic of the thread. "He did this, he didn't do that, I don't like this policy, I hate that proposal . . ." I don't care. Doesn't matter. Liking or disliking the man or his policies proves nothing either way about mental health. Likewise, the opinions of a bunch of biased, unethical doctors who've never met him, let alone treated him in a professional capacity, means nothing except that I certainly would not seek treatment from them for anything, and they should probably all be up in front of a medical review board.

The fact remains that the 25th Amendment provides only for a transition of power in the event the President is completely incapacitated, and it sets the bar extremely high on the definition of "incapacitated". Like it or not, holding political views that you disagree with or being a boorish ass in general do not qualify as "incapacitated". Even being an utterly abysmal President - if that were, in fact, to happen - does not qualify as "incapacitated". That would still require you to impeach him.

So the 25th Amendment is not going to provide you a clever little workaround to invalidate a legal election. If you can't deal with that, then I'd say it's not Donald Trump who has the mental illness.

You are right about a mental disorder being insufficient grounds for removal of an American president.

I didn't say that. I said disagreeing with him and disliking him weren't proof of him having a mental disorder.

I expect that if the President started displaying serious schizophrenia or dissociative disorder or something, the necessary people would have him declared incapacitated. But being an asshole is a behavior problem, not a mental disorder, and certainly not incapacitating.

Not all mental disorders incapacitate a person. There are highly functioning narcissists of whom Donald Trump is one.

Kinda my point. He's not at all incapacitated or unable to function, which means the 25th Amendment isn't going to do his mouth-frothing detractors any good.

Also, I don't think being a self-absorbed jagoff is a mental disorder. One might even say it's practically a job requirement for a politician.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Trump's dysfunction is readily apparent to those who care to see it.

Every initiative he has put forth has either failed or is in the process of failing. Instead of putting his efforts into selling them to the American people and working closely with Congress to refine these initiatives, he instead finds it necessary to pursue inane twitter controversies.

Is that a fact, Dr. Freud? Where was it you received your psychiatric training, again? And why didn't they ever mention to you how unprofessional and unethical it is to diagnose people you've never even met?

Only a lunatic would choose to ignore his lunacy.

thats what you were all told to believe. No one was calling Trump Crazy in the media until the election. That's because its an invention of the power structure who sees Trump as a threat to themselves.

No one needs to be told anything. It's self evident.

In other words, you've got shit and you're just hoping people will believe you because you say it.

No, it's self evident.
That means that it requires no instruction to understand. Any person will come to that conclusion, unless of course they themselves are damaged so as not to see it readily.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Let us return to the topic of the thread. "He did this, he didn't do that, I don't like this policy, I hate that proposal . . ." I don't care. Doesn't matter. Liking or disliking the man or his policies proves nothing either way about mental health. Likewise, the opinions of a bunch of biased, unethical doctors who've never met him, let alone treated him in a professional capacity, means nothing except that I certainly would not seek treatment from them for anything, and they should probably all be up in front of a medical review board.

The fact remains that the 25th Amendment provides only for a transition of power in the event the President is completely incapacitated, and it sets the bar extremely high on the definition of "incapacitated". Like it or not, holding political views that you disagree with or being a boorish ass in general do not qualify as "incapacitated". Even being an utterly abysmal President - if that were, in fact, to happen - does not qualify as "incapacitated". That would still require you to impeach him.

So the 25th Amendment is not going to provide you a clever little workaround to invalidate a legal election. If you can't deal with that, then I'd say it's not Donald Trump who has the mental illness.

You are right about a mental disorder being insufficient grounds for removal of an American president.

That president's refusal to address said disorder just may be.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Let us return to the topic of the thread. "He did this, he didn't do that, I don't like this policy, I hate that proposal . . ." I don't care. Doesn't matter. Liking or disliking the man or his policies proves nothing either way about mental health. Likewise, the opinions of a bunch of biased, unethical doctors who've never met him, let alone treated him in a professional capacity, means nothing except that I certainly would not seek treatment from them for anything, and they should probably all be up in front of a medical review board.

The fact remains that the 25th Amendment provides only for a transition of power in the event the President is completely incapacitated, and it sets the bar extremely high on the definition of "incapacitated". Like it or not, holding political views that you disagree with or being a boorish ass in general do not qualify as "incapacitated". Even being an utterly abysmal President - if that were, in fact, to happen - does not qualify as "incapacitated". That would still require you to impeach him.

So the 25th Amendment is not going to provide you a clever little workaround to invalidate a legal election. If you can't deal with that, then I'd say it's not Donald Trump who has the mental illness.

You are right about a mental disorder being insufficient grounds for removal of an American president.

I didn't say that. I said disagreeing with him and disliking him weren't proof of him having a mental disorder.

I expect that if the President started displaying serious schizophrenia or dissociative disorder or something, the necessary people would have him declared incapacitated. But being an asshole is a behavior problem, not a mental disorder, and certainly not incapacitating.

Not all mental disorders incapacitate a person. There are highly functioning narcissists of whom Donald Trump is one.

Would you agree that even a personality disorder can cause chaos and unbalance an administration if not the entire nation?

The president is supposed to set the tone, no?

 

[PredFan]

The democrats don't have the power to do it and the GOP doesn't have the guts.

. . . Or the GOP doesn't actually think there's a need to do it as yet.

They don't have the guts. For one thing, they know that Trump isn't crazy, they know that we know that the media and the left is full of shit. If they ousted Trump, they would all be out of a job in the next election.

Saying "they don't have the guts" implies that they might actually want to oust him. I see no reason to believe that they want to.

I agree, but in the hypothetical situation we were discussing, I think they know the backlash would destroy them.

 

[PredFan]

The democrats don't have the power to do it and the GOP doesn't have the guts.

. . . Or the GOP doesn't actually think there's a need to do it as yet.

They don't have the guts. For one thing, they know that Trump isn't crazy, they know that we know that the media and the left is full of shit. If they ousted Trump, they would all be out of a job in the next election.

Saying "they don't have the guts" implies that they might actually want to oust him. I see no reason to believe that they want to.

Right everyone wants a lying piece of garbage to represent them as president. Fortunately he is no longer the leader of the free world

You must be talking about the lying piece of garbage we just got rid of who, fortunately, is no longer the leader of the free world.

 

[fncceo]

What the hell? Ca you believe this Time.com headline? Utter desperation from the worst leftist rag in America.

Presidential psychology is quickly becoming a bipartisan issue. Recently, Senator Al Franken said that he and several of his GOP colleagues shared the opinion that President Donald Trump is “not right mentally.” Shortly thereafter, 35 mental health professionals — psychiatrists, psychologists and social workers — took to the pages of the New York Times to register their own concerns that the President was demonstrating “grave emotional instability.”

These controversial armchair diagnoses are powerless on their own. But what if there was something that Senator Franken and his concerned colleagues could actually do? Constitutionally speaking, there might be

This ridiculous story, along with a video is @ Congress Can Remove Donald Trump From Office Without Impeaching Him

Trump! Trump! Trump!

 

[NoNukes]

The left has come completely unglued. It is utterly pathetic and a shameful thing to put on display for the world to see.

You elected a madman, it has nothing to do with the left putting him on display. Take responsibility for your actions.

 

[JoeB131]

What the hell? Ca you believe this Time.com headline? Utter desperation from the worst leftist rag in America.

I don't think you need a degree in psychology to realize that Trump has some serious mental issues.

Issues that probably weren't a big deal in business because he had enough people who knew what they were doing to keep him out of trouble.

Of course, the likelihood of the GOP invoking Article IV of the 25th Amendment are small as long as they think they can get him to sign off on some of the crazy stuff they are pushing through Congress while the rest of us are distracted with his absurd claims of wiretapping and Arnold's ratings.

It's when the economy is in the tank and his approval ratings are at 25% that the GOP is going to say, "Wow, that guy's nuts!!!"

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

What the hell? Ca you believe this Time.com headline? Utter desperation from the worst leftist rag in America.

Presidential psychology is quickly becoming a bipartisan issue. Recently, Senator Al Franken said that he and several of his GOP colleagues shared the opinion that President Donald Trump is “not right mentally.” Shortly thereafter, 35 mental health professionals — psychiatrists, psychologists and social workers — took to the pages of the New York Times to register their own concerns that the President was demonstrating “grave emotional instability.”

These controversial armchair diagnoses are powerless on their own. But what if there was something that Senator Franken and his concerned colleagues could actually do? Constitutionally speaking, there might be

This ridiculous story, along with a video is @ Congress Can Remove Donald Trump From Office Without Impeaching Him

Let the establishment remove Trump who won the 2016 election legally by the majority of the people from the majority of states, and watch what happens to the liberals who have removed him...Keep on pressing the legal US citizens of the US, who are pretty much fed up with the liberal tactics....

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

What the hell? Ca you believe this Time.com headline? Utter desperation from the worst leftist rag in America.

I don't think you need a degree in psychology to realize that Trump has some serious mental issues.

Issues that probably weren't a big deal in business because he had enough people who knew what they were doing to keep him out of trouble.

Of course, the likelihood of the GOP invoking Article IV of the 25th Amendment are small as long as they think they can get him to sign off on some of the crazy stuff they are pushing through Congress while the rest of us are distracted with his absurd claims of wiretapping and Arnold's ratings.

It's when the economy is in the tank and his approval ratings are at 25% that the GOP is going to say, "Wow, that guy's nuts!!!"

This from the guy who owns 2 houses yet complains about Global Warming..... Talk about psychological issues, Joe, is a Sociopath..

 

[JoeB131]

Okay lib, name the clinical mental issues and how you arrived at the diagnosis so I can laugh in your face.

You mean a guy who puts his name in 20 Foot letters isn't a classic case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

President Trump exhibits classic signs of mental illness: shrinks

Not to mention his paranoia... he really still thinks Obama wiretapped him.

Google

 

[JoeB131]

This from the guy who owns 2 houses yet complains about Global Warming..... Talk about psychological issues, Joe, is a Sociopath..

Both of my places are energy efficient.

Unlike your Double Wide, Cleetus.

 

[JoeB131]

Let the establishment remove Trump who won the 2016 election legally by the majority of the people from the majority of states, and watch what happens to the liberals who have removed him...Keep on pressing the legal US citizens of the US, who are pretty much fed up with the liberal tactics....

Um, guy, Nixon won 60% of the vote and 49 states in 1972...

And a year and a half later, he was forced to resign because both parties realized he needed to go.

In the 1974 midterms, Democrats picked up 49 Seats in the House and 4 seats in the Senate.

 

[MrShangles]

I told you the establishment politicians are pissed Trump took over the White House. Elections are supposed to be rigged by the parties. An establishment candidate who is bought and paid for is supposed to win. The status quo is supposed to be maintained. They lie to voters every 4 years then go right back to business as usual.

You really think that Rump can lead this country? Hasn't he screwed up enough?

Where has he screwed up, put down your MSM spoon for a minute and tell us his screw ups. Consumer confidence up, stock market at record highs, saves us millions on previous deals.
Please don't parrot the MSM here , give real screw ups.


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[Mikeoxenormous]

This from the guy who owns 2 houses yet complains about Global Warming..... Talk about psychological issues, Joe, is a Sociopath..

Both of my places are energy efficient.

Unlike your Double Wide, Cleetus.

Why do you need 2 houses Joe, as a Socialist, you only need 1 and it should be the smallest of 1, because otherwise you "energy efficient" goes out the door. My doublewide, has golden faucets, marble foyer and fireplace, hardwood floors, and top of the line windows and doors. But Joe, it isn't about me, Joe, it is about you calling Trump crazy, but if you don't like Trump, sell off your houses, Joe, head to your Socialist Utopian Paradise, Cuba, and live your dream there. We the People, Joe, don't like you and don't want you here any more....
Capitalist Cuba....Communist Cuba....