Cons want to bring baby Charlie to US!?

[depotoo]

Bull. No other US doctors have seen him to make such a diagnosis.

You are a doctor now!?!

If they have the money, which they do, who cares?
And who in the holy fuck does European courts think they are? I would tell them to shove it up their statist asses.

They do not have enough money for around the clock care for the life of the child.

They have got some. They raised over a million dollars. It would be enough for experimental treatment. Hell, they couldnt even go to the vatican! I think that might have been free. Not sure though.

It's not "treatment".

It would only prolong the time he is forced to "breathe" on a respirator.

No, the vatican would never even consider spending any of their trillions $$$ on a sick baby.

A non-viable fetus? Yes.
A child? Never.

There is nothing that can change how this horribly sad situation ends.


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No, I simply read what US doctors said about this poor child.

And you're lying when you say I think all who get "welfare" have "legitimate" need. Unless, that is, you're talking about mega-corporations. I suspect none of them do but RWNJs vote to give it to them.


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[irosie91]

Righties wouldn't have covered the kid to begin with . If you want to throw stones.

Righties would step forward and pay the expenses for this child out of their own pocket.

Lefties would reach into the righties' pockets when they weren't looking, take all of their cash and give half to the family for the child's medical care and keep the other half for administrative fees.

And try to make a buck of any body parts as well.

you are talking about a MOTHER's SON------how about you quit the "BODY PART
BULL SHIT" ------there, that's a good boy

I find it hypocritical of the left to comment on child health / life issue after the PP situation.

Since PP gives free or very inexpensive pre-natal, post-natal and pediatric care, I can see why you don't like them.


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OH!!! PLANNED PARENTHOOD------that PP. Good people

 

[irosie91]

Bull. No other US doctors have seen him to make such a diagnosis.

You are a doctor now!?!

They do not have enough money for around the clock care for the life of the child.

They have got some. They raised over a million dollars. It would be enough for experimental treatment. Hell, they couldnt even go to the vatican! I think that might have been free. Not sure though.

It's not "treatment".

It would only prolong the time he is forced to "breathe" on a respirator.

No, the vatican would never even consider spending any of their trillions $$$ on a sick baby.

A non-viable fetus? Yes.
A child? Never.

There is nothing that can change how this horribly sad situation ends.


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No, I simply read what US doctors said about this poor child.

And you're lying when you say I think all who get "welfare" have "legitimate" need. Unless, that is, you're talking about mega-corporations. I suspect none of them do but RWNJs vote to give it to them.


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based on minimal information----it does look bad for the kid-----
but a suggestion that he is a constant pain-----is pure conjecture

 

[depotoo]

That's the problem, minimal information, conjecture. You, as a doctor would not make a definitive diagnosis on someone with minimal information, without seeing them and running your own tests.

Bull. No other US doctors have seen him to make such a diagnosis.

You are a doctor now!?!

They have got some. They raised over a million dollars. It would be enough for experimental treatment. Hell, they couldnt even go to the vatican! I think that might have been free. Not sure though.

It's not "treatment".

It would only prolong the time he is forced to "breathe" on a respirator.

No, the vatican would never even consider spending any of their trillions $$$ on a sick baby.

A non-viable fetus? Yes.
A child? Never.

There is nothing that can change how this horribly sad situation ends.


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No, I simply read what US doctors said about this poor child.

And you're lying when you say I think all who get "welfare" have "legitimate" need. Unless, that is, you're talking about mega-corporations. I suspect none of them do but RWNJs vote to give it to them.


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based on minimal information----it does look bad for the kid-----
but a suggestion that he is a constant pain-----is pure conjecture

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Righties wouldn't have covered the kid to begin with . If you want to throw stones.

Righties would step forward and pay the expenses for this child out of their own pocket.

Lefties would reach into the righties' pockets when they weren't looking, take all of their cash and give half to the family for the child's medical care and keep the other half for administrative fees.

And try to make a buck of any body parts as well.

They are not "making money " . Those parts are used by the meidical industry to come up with cures to many childhood diseases. This experimental proceadure probably came from fetal research .

So they are donated?

I would think so . Kind of like how blood is donated , but later sold as there are costs involved in the process .

You're spot on. I wonder if Jimmy_Chitwood would prefer they be tax-supported?

And, I wonder if the RWs want all hospitals and clinics to simply incinerate all medical waste. Do they also want research facilities, such as NIH, to stop medical research that could actually help babies like this baby.


Edited to add that I had forgotten that the cheeto want to end all medical research.

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[Jimmy_Chitwood]

Righties wouldn't have covered the kid to begin with . If you want to throw stones.

Righties would step forward and pay the expenses for this child out of their own pocket.

Lefties would reach into the righties' pockets when they weren't looking, take all of their cash and give half to the family for the child's medical care and keep the other half for administrative fees.

And try to make a buck of any body parts as well.

you are talking about a MOTHER's SON------how about you quit the "BODY PART
BULL SHIT" ------there, that's a good boy

I find it hypocritical of the left to comment on child health / life issue after the PP situation.

Since PP gives free or very inexpensive birth control, pre-natal, post-natal and pediatric care, I can see why you don't like them.


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Why not bury the aborted babies?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

im sure you've heard the story . This baby in England has some terrible disease . He's blinded and deaf and only kept alive by a ventilator. In England the doctors think they should pull the plug . The parents want him
To get some experimental treatment in the USA .

The weird part. Two republicans are floating a bill to make the kid and his parents legal residents of the us so they can come over !

Since when do cons care about medical coverage ? Especially for immigrants !

Republicans cynically offer Charlie Gard U.S. citizenship to get the health care they won’t give to others

Leftists just view it as a late stage abortion and want to sell the parts - sad really.

Righties wouldn't have covered the kid to begin with . If you want to throw stones.

Righties would step forward and pay the expenses for this child out of their own pocket.

Lefties would reach into the righties' pockets when they weren't looking, take all of their cash and give half to the family for the child's medical care and keep the other half for administrative fees.

And try to make a buck of any body parts as well.

They are not "making money " . Those parts are used by the meidical industry to come up with cures to many childhood diseases. This experimental proceadure probably came from fetal research .

Research using fetal tissue does not require abortions.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

And you would gleefully deny them food stamps.


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Why does a British couple need American food stamps?

You phony christians pretend you care about this baby but have voted against health care and even food stamps for the sick, handicapped poor in the US.

I started a thread in healthcare about another little boy who needs help and not one of you miserable hypocrites had anything to say.

Why don't you want people to support themselves? Work is one of the greatest gifts man has. Free will is another one. When we work hard to produce more than we use and then freely give what the Lord has blessed us with we begin to see the Hand of Providence in our society.


I'd rather live free then depend on politicians to give me back my money

I appreciate that you admit you want to starve the needy but most who get food stamps DO work.

But, read the thread about the woman who worked two jobs but wanted one of her employers to not change her schedule without any notice at all.

RWNJs, especially you phony christians, have no respect or appreciation for anyone's needs but their own.


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today's RW includes persons not SO RW. Trump is a democrat under the skin-------
a REAL DEMOCRAT--------not a hellcat variety of democrat

I think of them as RWs or Conservatives.

There are very few Conservatives in congress or on this board.

The cheeto is a Trumplicrat. He cares only about enriching himself and his family.


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[Crixus]

im sure you've heard the story . This baby in England has some terrible disease . He's blinded and deaf and only kept alive by a ventilator. In England the doctors think they should pull the plug . The parents want him
To get some experimental treatment in the USA .

The weird part. Two republicans are floating a bill to make the kid and his parents legal residents of the us so they can come over !

Since when do cons care about medical coverage ? Especially for immigrants !

Republicans cynically offer Charlie Gard U.S. citizenship to get the health care they won’t give to others

When the country of origen wants to kill said kid? And why would hisHis parents want to come here to the most broken medical system in the world? Half Black Jesus said Europe had it all figured out?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Righties would step forward and pay the expenses for this child out of their own pocket.

Lefties would reach into the righties' pockets when they weren't looking, take all of their cash and give half to the family for the child's medical care and keep the other half for administrative fees.

And try to make a buck of any body parts as well.

you are talking about a MOTHER's SON------how about you quit the "BODY PART
BULL SHIT" ------there, that's a good boy

I find it hypocritical of the left to comment on child health / life issue after the PP situation.

Since PP gives free or very inexpensive birth control, pre-natal, post-natal and pediatric care, I can see why you don't like them.


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Why not bury the aborted babies?

WHAT!!!! There is gold in them there dead babies!!!!!!

 

[Avatar4321]

There is a chance.
People said the same thing about this boy a few years ago. I forget his name or what was wrong with him but he was supposed to die years ago. He is still alive.
We arent perfect. We are constantly learning new things. Its to be expected.
Even if, that shit shouldnt matter. That judge or judges shouldnt determine what happens to that kid.
DEATH PANEL

What about his doctors? Should they get a say?

Of course they get a say. Their say its to give the parents an informed spectrum of options and allow them to make the best choice for their child and family.

Every doctor takes an oath to do no harm. Withholding treatment violates that oath.

Treatments are specific actions that have a chance of helping. "Treatment" is NOT throwing anything and everything at the wall and seeing what sticks.

And this has a chance of working. So what's your point

According to whom?

The specialist who examined him

 

[Avatar4321]

im sure you've heard the story . This baby in England has some terrible disease . He's blinded and deaf and only kept alive by a ventilator. In England the doctors think they should pull the plug . The parents want him
To get some experimental treatment in the USA .

The weird part. Two republicans are floating a bill to make the kid and his parents legal residents of the us so they can come over !

Since when do cons care about medical coverage ? Especially for immigrants !

Republicans cynically offer Charlie Gard U.S. citizenship to get the health care they won’t give to others

Leftists just view it as a late stage abortion and want to sell the parts - sad really.

Righties wouldn't have covered the kid to begin with . If you want to throw stones.

Righties would step forward and pay the expenses for this child out of their own pocket.

Lefties would reach into the righties' pockets when they weren't looking, take all of their cash and give half to the family for the child's medical care and keep the other half for administrative fees.

Somebody donated the money for the baby's care. It sure wasn't any leftist. The left wants to paint this as taxpayers supporting this experimental treatment when it is no such thing. Even if, by some magic, there was no money for Charlie Gard's treatment, the funds would still not be available to "da po' ".

It isn't this child's treatment the left objects to. It's the research and development that gave the experimental treatment. That's what costs. The left wants to stop the advancement of medical science. Maybe they can spend the money on global warming instead. The left is known for being anti science anyway.

Actually Trump wants to cut medical research funding. Price want to cut pre screening for cancer.

Which is why we focus on private funding...

 

[irosie91]

That's the problem, minimal information, conjecture. You, as a doctor would not make a definitive diagnosis on someone with minimal information, without seeing them and running your own tests.[QUOTE="irosie91,

It's not all that bad------The HIRANO name is famous. I trust his evaluation "hirano bodies" as
a finding in the histology of the brain------were described a bit more than 50 years ago. -----who could
doubt a neurologist with SUCH A FAMILY BACKGROUND. It's Japanese. ------if he is wrong he
would be obligated to commit----you know what-------ie shove a sword in his own gut

 

[Luddly Neddite]

im sure you've heard the story . This baby in England has some terrible disease . He's blinded and deaf and only kept alive by a ventilator. In England the doctors think they should pull the plug . The parents want him
To get some experimental treatment in the USA .

The weird part. Two republicans are floating a bill to make the kid and his parents legal residents of the us so they can come over !

Since when do cons care about medical coverage ? Especially for immigrants !

Republicans cynically offer Charlie Gard U.S. citizenship to get the health care they won’t give to others

When the country of origen wants to kill said kid? And why would hisHis parents want to come here to the most broken medical system in the world? Half Black Jesus said Europe had it all figured out?

Crixus

That's nonsense of course.

There is no treatment for this poor baby.

No matter what is done, he will die.




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[irosie91]

And try to make a buck of any body parts as well.

you are talking about a MOTHER's SON------how about you quit the "BODY PART
BULL SHIT" ------there, that's a good boy

I find it hypocritical of the left to comment on child health / life issue after the PP situation.

Since PP gives free or very inexpensive birth control, pre-natal, post-natal and pediatric care, I can see why you don't like them.


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Why not bury the aborted babies?

WHAT!!!! There is gold in them there dead babies!!!!!!

.....sassy.....time for your nap

 

[Luddly Neddite]

And try to make a buck of any body parts as well.

you are talking about a MOTHER's SON------how about you quit the "BODY PART
BULL SHIT" ------there, that's a good boy

I find it hypocritical of the left to comment on child health / life issue after the PP situation.

Since PP gives free or very inexpensive birth control, pre-natal, post-natal and pediatric care, I can see why you don't like them.


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Why not bury the aborted babies?

WHAT!!!! There is gold in them there dead babies!!!!!!

Jimmy_Chitwood

Each family, woman makes that choice,that decision.

SassyIrishLass is, as usual, lying


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[irosie91]

im sure you've heard the story . This baby in England has some terrible disease . He's blinded and deaf and only kept alive by a ventilator. In England the doctors think they should pull the plug . The parents want him
To get some experimental treatment in the USA .

The weird part. Two republicans are floating a bill to make the kid and his parents legal residents of the us so they can come over !

Since when do cons care about medical coverage ? Especially for immigrants !

Republicans cynically offer Charlie Gard U.S. citizenship to get the health care they won’t give to others

When the country of origen wants to kill said kid? And why would hisHis parents want to come here to the most broken medical system in the world? Half Black Jesus said Europe had it all figured out?

Crixus

That's nonsense of course.

There is no treatment for this poor baby.

No matter what is done, he will die.




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the capacity for the YOUNG brain to recover is-----sometimes-----amazing

 

[depotoo]

And he is the US doc that said there is a small chance, vs the U.K. court which proclaimed none. My point was regarding luddlies claim before any US doc had had a chance to examine him, he was in pain and no chance, before any from here examined him.

That's the problem, minimal information, conjecture. You, as a doctor would not make a definitive diagnosis on someone with minimal information, without seeing them and running your own tests.[QUOTE="irosie91,

It's not all that bad------The HIRANO name is famous. I trust his evaluation "hirano bodies" as
a finding in the histology of the brain------were described a bit more than 50 years ago. -----who could
doubt a neurologist with SUCH A FAMILY BACKGROUND. It's Japanese. ------if he is wrong he
would be obligated to commit----you know what-------ie shove a sword in his own gut

 

[SassyIrishLass]

you are talking about a MOTHER's SON------how about you quit the "BODY PART
BULL SHIT" ------there, that's a good boy

I find it hypocritical of the left to comment on child health / life issue after the PP situation.

Since PP gives free or very inexpensive birth control, pre-natal, post-natal and pediatric care, I can see why you don't like them.


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Why not bury the aborted babies?

WHAT!!!! There is gold in them there dead babies!!!!!!

.....sassy.....time for your nap

Nope, that's PP's attitude....and anyone supporting the vile institution of freaks and ghouls

 

[irosie91]

And he is the US doc that said there is a small chance, vs the U.K. court which proclaimed none. My point was regarding luddlies claim before any US doc had had a chance to examine him, he was in pain and no chance, before any from here examined him.

That's the problem, minimal information, conjecture. You, as a doctor would not make a definitive diagnosis on someone with minimal information, without seeing them and running your own tests.[QUOTE="irosie91,

It's not all that bad------The HIRANO name is famous. I trust his evaluation "hirano bodies" as
a finding in the histology of the brain------were described a bit more than 50 years ago. -----who could
doubt a neurologist with SUCH A FAMILY BACKGROUND. It's Japanese. ------if he is wrong he
would be obligated to commit----you know what-------ie shove a sword in his own gut

PAIN? the term "no quality of life"------does not necessarily mean PAIN