Cons want to bring baby Charlie to US!?

im sure you've heard the story . This baby in England has some terrible disease . He's blinded and deaf and only kept alive by a ventilator. In England the doctors think they should pull the plug . The parents want him
To get some experimental treatment in the USA .

The weird part. Two republicans are floating a bill to make the kid and his parents legal residents of the us so they can come over !

Since when do cons care about medical coverage ? Especially for immigrants !

Republicans cynically offer Charlie Gard U.S. citizenship to get the health care they won’t give to others

The bigger issue is that you're ignoring the very "death panels" you were warned about.
Name me an insurance company which would pay for this experimental treatment. Then let's talk about "death panels" without you blindly parroting a lie of omission.

Yawn. You're boring. Who is paying for this treatment?
Now, did, or did the Gov not decide that the baby should die rather than be taken to the US?
Answer my question. Name the insurance company which would pay for this experimental treatment.

You think this is the first baby with this illness? Find one where insurance paid for this experimental treatment in the US.

I bet Fox News and all the usual propaganda outlets aren't bending over backwards to find one. Because they would discover the same baby would be doomed here, too.


You tards never really THINK, do you.

Who is saying any insurance needs to cover it?
The whole reason you tards are parroting this story is because of the underlying "death panels" narrative.

You are such empty-headed mindlessly parroting rubes.

What your propaganda outlets are deliberately failing to tell you is that the kid would be just as doomed here in a private insurance system as he is in Great Britain.
 
Trump is distracting you tards from his massive hoax in which he promised he was going to replace Obamacare with something better and cheaper.

He can't, and so he is pointing out the mote in his neighbor's eye.

A classic huckster's misdirection.

You people are such incredibly gullible rubes.
 
See, the propaganda outlets are masters of the lie of omission.

They know you tards have ZERO critical thinking skills and that they can count on your willful ignorance and stupidity to parrot what you are told to parrot, and bleev what you are told to bleev.

"Death panels." :rolleyes:

I see. You've never heard of the Liverpool Care Pathway. Nor the scandal that rocked Britain to its very core. You see what started out as a supposed compassionate way to aid the dying turned into a multi million dollar business for hospitals to reach target kills.

Hospitals got paid millions. More money for more deaths. Quite real.

FYI:

They acted after the Daily Mail told how families were kept in the dark about the fact that their loved ones had been put on the Pathway and revealed that hospitals had been paid millions to reach targets for numbers of patients dying on it.

Read more: Victory for the Mail in aftermath of Liverpool Care Pathway scandal | Daily Mail Online
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See, the propaganda outlets are masters of the lie of omission.

They know you tards have ZERO critical thinking skills and that they can count on your willful ignorance and stupidity to parrot what you are told to parrot, and bleev what you are told to bleev.

"Death panels." :rolleyes:

I see. You've never heard of the Liverpool Care Pathway. Nor the scandal that rocked Britain to its very core. You see what started out as a supposed compassionate way to aid the dying turned into a multi million dollar business for hospitals to reach target kills.

Hospitals got paid millions. More money for more deaths. Quite real.

FYI:

They acted after the Daily Mail told how families were kept in the dark about the fact that their loved ones had been put on the Pathway and revealed that hospitals had been paid millions to reach targets for numbers of patients dying on it.

Read more: Victory for the Mail in aftermath of Liverpool Care Pathway scandal | Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
Do you think this sort of thing isn't going on with insurance companies?
 
When Doctors Kill Patients to Harvest Their Organs | The Stream

Doctors Tell All—and It’s Bad

The demoralized insiders-turned-authors are blunt about their daily reality. The biggest problem is time: the system ensures that doctors don’t have enough of it. To rein in costs, insurance companies have set fees lower and lower. And because doctors tend to get reimbursed at higher rates when they are in a network (hospitals and large physician groups have more leverage with insurance companies), many work for groups that require them to cram in a set number of patients a day. Hence the eight-minute appointments we’re all familiar with.
 
They already have the treatments and the family has raised more than a million dollars. And what do you think research foundations are for? There are foundations everywhere here set up for research and treatment for individuals, funded by philanthropists.
im sure you've heard the story . This baby in England has some terrible disease . He's blinded and deaf and only kept alive by a ventilator. In England the doctors think they should pull the plug . The parents want him
To get some experimental treatment in the USA .

The weird part. Two republicans are floating a bill to make the kid and his parents legal residents of the us so they can come over !

Since when do cons care about medical coverage ? Especially for immigrants !

Republicans cynically offer Charlie Gard U.S. citizenship to get the health care they won’t give to others

The bigger issue is that you're ignoring the very "death panels" you were warned about.
Name me an insurance company which would pay for this experimental treatment. Then let's talk about "death panels" without you blindly parroting a lie of omission.

Yawn. You're boring. Who is paying for this treatment?
Now, did, or did the Gov not decide that the baby should die rather than be taken to the US?
Answer my question. Name the insurance company which would pay for this experimental treatment.

You think this is the first baby with this illness? Find one where insurance paid for this experimental treatment in the US.

I bet Fox News and all the usual propaganda outlets aren't bending over backwards to find one. Because they would discover the same baby would be doomed here, too.


You tards never really THINK, do you.
 
So the parents are not acting in the Childs best interest by keeping him alive? That is what you want to argue?
Timmy and other snowflakes want to argue that what is in the best interest of the child is to have the parent's rights stripped and for some self-appointed snowflake who believes themselves to be the smartest person on the planet capable of making this decision to strip Charlie and his parents of any chance at survival. 'Just die already'.

He's just a baby - the parents haven't had him THAT long, so how strong of an attachment could they have to him. They can make another one, right, snowflakes?


Hold on now . When it's a fetus you righties say it's it's own person . Now that it's a full grown baby on a respirator, the kid is the parents property ?

Let me ask . Who here would want to live if you had to be deaf n blind only only survive because a machine forces air into your lungs and a feeding tube forcing food into your gut?

Who has said the child is the parents property? He is their responsibility.

Look the word up if you aren't familiar.

Do you think they will do what's best for him? Even if that means letting him go?
 
See, the propaganda outlets are masters of the lie of omission.

They know you tards have ZERO critical thinking skills and that they can count on your willful ignorance and stupidity to parrot what you are told to parrot, and bleev what you are told to bleev.

"Death panels." :rolleyes:

I see. You've never heard of the Liverpool Care Pathway. Nor the scandal that rocked Britain to its very core. You see what started out as a supposed compassionate way to aid the dying turned into a multi million dollar business for hospitals to reach target kills.

Hospitals got paid millions. More money for more deaths. Quite real.

FYI:

They acted after the Daily Mail told how families were kept in the dark about the fact that their loved ones had been put on the Pathway and revealed that hospitals had been paid millions to reach targets for numbers of patients dying on it.

Read more: Victory for the Mail in aftermath of Liverpool Care Pathway scandal | Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
Do you think this sort of thing isn't going on with insurance companies?

This was the government of Britain giving financial rewards for hospitals killing patients. The government directly involved. With a quota system.

Hospitals bribed to put patients on pathway to death: Cash incentive for NHS trusts that meet targets on Liverpool Care Pathway
  • Some hospitals set target of two thirds of all deaths should be on LCP
  • At least £30m in extra money handed to hospitals to achieve these goals
  • Critics warn financial incentives could influence the work of doctors


Read more: Hospitals bribed to put patients on pathway to death: Cash incentive for NHS trusts that meet targets on Liverpool Care Pathway | Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
 
im sure you've heard the story . This baby in England has some terrible disease . He's blinded and deaf and only kept alive by a ventilator. In England the doctors think they should pull the plug . The parents want him
To get some experimental treatment in the USA .

The weird part. Two republicans are floating a bill to make the kid and his parents legal residents of the us so they can come over !

Since when do cons care about medical coverage ? Especially for immigrants !

Republicans cynically offer Charlie Gard U.S. citizenship to get the health care they won’t give to others

The bigger issue is that you're ignoring the very "death panels" you were warned about.

Are they wrong? It's an aweful situation. But this poor kid is only alive because of a ventilator. The poor parents are blinded wh grief .

I hate to be cold, but how many resources are being used for this baby that doesn't have a chance ?
It's not up to you to decide what the parents should do or shouldn't do to treat their child.

Mind your own business.

You are right . It's up to his doctors and the courts .

But you can still tell women what to do with their bodies you sanctimonious hypocrite.
It should not be up to the courts or the doctor to decide what treatment parents decide to seek for THEIR children elsewhere. You liberals need to learn your place...and fuck off.
 
im sure you've heard the story . This baby in England has some terrible disease . He's blinded and deaf and only kept alive by a ventilator. In England the doctors think they should pull the plug . The parents want him
To get some experimental treatment in the USA .

The weird part. Two republicans are floating a bill to make the kid and his parents legal residents of the us so they can come over !

Since when do cons care about medical coverage ? Especially for immigrants !

Republicans cynically offer Charlie Gard U.S. citizenship to get the health care they won’t give to others

The bigger issue is that you're ignoring the very "death panels" you were warned about.

Are they wrong? It's an aweful situation. But this poor kid is only alive because of a ventilator. The poor parents are blinded wh grief .

I hate to be cold, but how many resources are being used for this baby that doesn't have a chance ?
It's not up to you to decide what the parents should do or shouldn't do to treat their child.

Mind your own business.

You are right . It's up to his doctors and the courts .

But you can still tell women what to do with their bodies you sanctimonious hypocrite.
It should not be up to the courts or the doctor to decide what treatment parents decide to seek for THEIR children elsewhere. You liberals need to learn your place...and fuck off.

Courts do it all the time ! If someone is a minor or incapacitated, the courts will order an attorney or someone to represent the persons interest.

You've seen stories when parents decide on Prayer over medicine.
 
Why doesn't this couple adopt a child, one who is hungry, why because they are selfish people. You want a baby and can't have one, adopt , do not get in vitro. Look in the mirror next time you are anti the ACA and expanded Medicaid. Look in the mirror next time you think we should nuke Iran and NK.


Why do you selfish mother fuckers want to kill other peoples children? Huh? Killing your own isnt fulfilling enough? How about you keep your busy body asses out of other people's affairs.
 
The bigger issue is that you're ignoring the very "death panels" you were warned about.

Are they wrong? It's an aweful situation. But this poor kid is only alive because of a ventilator. The poor parents are blinded wh grief .

I hate to be cold, but how many resources are being used for this baby that doesn't have a chance ?
It's not up to you to decide what the parents should do or shouldn't do to treat their child.

Mind your own business.

You are right . It's up to his doctors and the courts .

But you can still tell women what to do with their bodies you sanctimonious hypocrite.
It should not be up to the courts or the doctor to decide what treatment parents decide to seek for THEIR children elsewhere. You liberals need to learn your place...and fuck off.

Courts do it all the time ! If someone is a minor or incapacitated, the courts will order an attorney or someone to represent the persons interest.

You've seen stories when parents decide on Prayer over medicine.
The parents aren't denying medical care. Your example is irrelevant.
 
Why doesn't this couple adopt a child, one who is hungry, why because they are selfish people. You want a baby and can't have one, adopt , do not get in vitro. Look in the mirror next time you are anti the ACA and expanded Medicaid. Look in the mirror next time you think we should nuke Iran and NK.



What kind of heartless person are you? They have a child. The one you want to die.

Adoption doesn't replace the loss of a child. Children aren't commodities that we can buy or sell if one doesn't work right.

I mean seriously wth?!

Board trolls deal in shock value.
 
Are they wrong? It's an aweful situation. But this poor kid is only alive because of a ventilator. The poor parents are blinded wh grief .

I hate to be cold, but how many resources are being used for this baby that doesn't have a chance ?
It's not up to you to decide what the parents should do or shouldn't do to treat their child.

Mind your own business.

You are right . It's up to his doctors and the courts .

But you can still tell women what to do with their bodies you sanctimonious hypocrite.
It should not be up to the courts or the doctor to decide what treatment parents decide to seek for THEIR children elsewhere. You liberals need to learn your place...and fuck off.

Courts do it all the time ! If someone is a minor or incapacitated, the courts will order an attorney or someone to represent the persons interest.

You've seen stories when parents decide on Prayer over medicine.
The parents aren't denying medical care. Your example is irrelevant.

YOU said it's up to the parents on what should or shouldn't be done .

Now your moving goalposts .

My point is that parents don't always have the kids best interest in mind . That's why we have Child Services!
 
So the parents are not acting in the Childs best interest by keeping him alive?

That is what you want to argue?

YES! The Left is arguing that it's in your best interest to DIE whenever things appear hopeless for you!

This is exactly why these insane moonbats, consumed with death culture, should NEVER have control of our health care!
The left wants to be able to decide who should die and who should be allowed treatment based on their political agenda. In other words we should all cave to what they SAY is in your best interest....based on how they FEEL at any given moment.
 
It's not up to you to decide what the parents should do or shouldn't do to treat their child.

Mind your own business.

You are right . It's up to his doctors and the courts .

But you can still tell women what to do with their bodies you sanctimonious hypocrite.
It should not be up to the courts or the doctor to decide what treatment parents decide to seek for THEIR children elsewhere. You liberals need to learn your place...and fuck off.

Courts do it all the time ! If someone is a minor or incapacitated, the courts will order an attorney or someone to represent the persons interest.

You've seen stories when parents decide on Prayer over medicine.
The parents aren't denying medical care. Your example is irrelevant.

YOU said it's up to the parents on what should or shouldn't be done .

Now your moving goalposts .

My point is that parents don't always have the kids best interest in mind . That's why we have Child Services!
Sure they do...they are fighting for his life...you on the other hand have a political agenda. So STFU.
 
So the parents are not acting in the Childs best interest by keeping him alive?

That is what you want to argue?

YES! The Left is arguing that it's in your best interest to DIE whenever things appear hopeless for you!

This is exactly why these insane moonbats, consumed with death culture, should NEVER have control of our health care!

That left you are talking about , the Dems are the reason so many uninsured people now have insurance, and the Right , your brothers, wants to take it away.
Democrats are also the reason the middle class can no longer afford healthcare and treatment.
 
You are right . It's up to his doctors and the courts .

But you can still tell women what to do with their bodies you sanctimonious hypocrite.
It should not be up to the courts or the doctor to decide what treatment parents decide to seek for THEIR children elsewhere. You liberals need to learn your place...and fuck off.

Courts do it all the time ! If someone is a minor or incapacitated, the courts will order an attorney or someone to represent the persons interest.

You've seen stories when parents decide on Prayer over medicine.
The parents aren't denying medical care. Your example is irrelevant.

YOU said it's up to the parents on what should or shouldn't be done .

Now your moving goalposts .

My point is that parents don't always have the kids best interest in mind . That's why we have Child Services!
Sure they do...they are fighting for his life...you on the other hand have a political agenda. So STFU.

Let me ask you . Would you want to live if you were Charlie ?

Did you tell your family to keep you alive at all costs ? Even if rendered blind/deaf and possible brain damage ? Only to be kept alive by ventilation and feeding tubes ?
 
As for my personal views ? I think the parents are selfish . They just HAD to have a biological child , knowing he could be hit by this awful disease because they were carriers .
 
It should not be up to the courts or the doctor to decide what treatment parents decide to seek for THEIR children elsewhere. You liberals need to learn your place...and fuck off.

Courts do it all the time ! If someone is a minor or incapacitated, the courts will order an attorney or someone to represent the persons interest.

You've seen stories when parents decide on Prayer over medicine.
The parents aren't denying medical care. Your example is irrelevant.

YOU said it's up to the parents on what should or shouldn't be done .

Now your moving goalposts .

My point is that parents don't always have the kids best interest in mind . That's why we have Child Services!
Sure they do...they are fighting for his life...you on the other hand have a political agenda. So STFU.

Let me ask you . Would you want to live if you were Charlie ?

Did you tell your family to keep you alive at all costs ? Even if rendered blind/deaf and possible brain damage ? Only to be kept alive by ventilation and feeding tubes ?
Just like a lib to start to lay it on thick with the emotional manipulation rhetoric. Again it's not UP to YOU. You do not live the situation, have all the information or will you be caring for the child. You are not the parents. You get no say.
 

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