Contraband Bible

[Unkotare]

A FL school teacher orders 12 year-old not to read the Bible during free time.

Giovanni Rubeo, Father Speak Out on 'Fox & Friends' About Teacher Not Allowing Bible in Class | Fox News Insider

Just how ridiculous can these militant atheists go? In a few years, the kid will probably be required to read the Koran in a history class.

 

[The Irish Ram]

This attack on Christianity will continue until the New World Order bibles are ready to be passed out. They are being printed now with any reference to Jesus removed and God and Allah being touted as one and the same. Our children will be urged to bring those books to school and read to the class from them. Satan isn't anti false Gods, he's anti-Christ.

 

[thebrucebeat]

A FL school teacher orders 12 year-old not to read the Bible during free time.

Giovanni Rubeo, Father Speak Out on 'Fox & Friends' About Teacher Not Allowing Bible in Class | Fox News Insider

Just how ridiculous can these militant atheists go? In a few years, the kid will probably be required to read the Koran in a history class.

The story indicates that the kid was reading it during class time. The specifics matter a great deal in this case. If it was during class time it would be completely dismissive of the authority of the teacher and a distraction in the class. If the child wishes to read the bible rather than study the subject at hand, take him out of school and let him read his bible all day. The world needs janitors, too.
The hated ACLU has frequently gone to court to defend the rights of schoolchildren to read and carry their bibles and have prayer in school. That does not extend to the disregard of the teacher or classroom.
Knee-jerk reaction by both Fox and you. The details matter.

 

[thebrucebeat]

This attack on Christianity will continue until the New World Order bibles are ready to be passed out. They are being printed now with any reference to Jesus removed and God and Allah being touted as one and the same. Our children will be urged to bring those books to school and read to the class from them. Satan isn't anti false Gods, he's anti-Christ.

Do you have a citation for this new bible you suggest is imminent?
A credible link that this actually exists and is to be implemented as a public school text?
It is the willingness to believe such nonsense that exemplifies the need for perceived persecution in the believer.

 

[Unkotare]

A FL school teacher orders 12 year-old not to read the Bible during free time.

Giovanni Rubeo, Father Speak Out on 'Fox & Friends' About Teacher Not Allowing Bible in Class | Fox News Insider

Just how ridiculous can these militant atheists go? In a few years, the kid will probably be required to read the Koran in a history class.

The story indicates that the kid was reading it during class time.

You didn't read the whole story or listen to the interview.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Where did you come to the conclusion that the teacher was an atheist?

 

[thebrucebeat]

A FL school teacher orders 12 year-old not to read the Bible during free time.

Giovanni Rubeo, Father Speak Out on 'Fox & Friends' About Teacher Not Allowing Bible in Class | Fox News Insider

Just how ridiculous can these militant atheists go? In a few years, the kid will probably be required to read the Koran in a history class.

The story indicates that the kid was reading it during class time.

You didn't read the whole story or listen to the interview.

I have, and if the facts are as reported by the kid, all of us should be on his side.
All I'm saying is the details matter.
If the teacher was out of line she should be disciplined and made to understand the law regarding the students rights.
Assuming the teacher was wrong, and it sounds like she probably was, does this indicate some kind of mass persecution of Christians, or an error by an ill-informed educator?
Even the ACLU would defend the kid if the facts are as the interview suggests.
Who would oppose this?
Why is this story so important to you?

 

[Unkotare]

Assuming the teacher was wrong, and it sounds like she probably was, does this indicate some kind of mass persecution of Christians, or an error by an ill-informed educator?

The two are not mutually exclusive.

 

[thebrucebeat]

Assuming the teacher was wrong, and it sounds like she probably was, does this indicate some kind of mass persecution of Christians, or an error by an ill-informed educator?

The two are not mutually exclusive.

I asked for your opinion on the matter, not an avoidance of the question.

 

[Unkotare]

Assuming the teacher was wrong, and it sounds like she probably was, does this indicate some kind of mass persecution of Christians, or an error by an ill-informed educator?

The two are not mutually exclusive.

I asked for your opinion on the matter, not an avoidance of the question.

I didn't avoid the question. It was based on a false premise. Please rephrase and I'll be happy to answer.

 

[thebrucebeat]

The two are not mutually exclusive.

I asked for your opinion on the matter, not an avoidance of the question.

I didn't avoid the question. It was based on a false premise. Please rephrase and I'll be happy to answer.

Do you want me to add
"or both"?
Consider it done.
Now stop running and answer the question.

 

[Unkotare]

I asked for your opinion on the matter, not an avoidance of the question.

I didn't avoid the question. It was based on a false premise. Please rephrase and I'll be happy to answer.

Do you want me to add
"or both"?
Consider it done.
Now stop running and answer the question.

"Running"? No running. Do you want a discussion or not?

 

[thebrucebeat]

I didn't avoid the question. It was based on a false premise. Please rephrase and I'll be happy to answer.

Do you want me to add
"or both"?
Consider it done.
Now stop running and answer the question.

"Running"? No running. Do you want a discussion or not?

Just waiting on you.

 

[Unkotare]

Do you want me to add
"or both"?
Consider it done.
Now stop running and answer the question.

"Running"? No running. Do you want a discussion or not?

Just waiting on you.

No more insults, false accusations, questions loaded with their own conclusions? Ready to discuss like a big-boy now? Just say so and I'll be happy to answer any questions.

 

[thebrucebeat]

"Running"? No running. Do you want a discussion or not?

Just waiting on you.

No more insults, false accusations, questions loaded with their own conclusions? Ready to discuss like a big-boy now? Just say so and I'll be happy to answer any questions.

Still waiting.

 

[The Irish Ram]

This attack on Christianity will continue until the New World Order bibles are ready to be passed out. They are being printed now with any reference to Jesus removed and God and Allah being touted as one and the same. Our children will be urged to bring those books to school and read to the class from them. Satan isn't anti false Gods, he's anti-Christ.

Do you have a citation for this new bible you suggest is imminent?
A credible link that this actually exists and is to be implemented as a public school text?
It is the willingness to believe such nonsense that exemplifies the need for perceived persecution in the believer.

Has nothing to do with perceived persecution, but an adding to and taking away from the word of God, by the politically correct:

Wycliffe Bible Translators, the Summer Institute of Linguistics and Frontiers, all of which were reported producing Bible translations that remove or modify terms which they have deemed offensive to Muslims.

Involved is the removal of any references to God as “Father,” to Jesus as the “Son” or “the Son of God.” One example of such a change can be seen in an Arabic version of the Gospel of Matthew produced and promoted by Frontiers and SIL. It changes Matthew 28:19 from this:

“baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit”

to this:

“cleanse them by water in the name of Allah, his Messiah and his Holy Spirit.”

While the Bible teaches throughout about God the Father, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit, Muslims are told in the Quran that God has no children. They perceive Jesus as another prophet.

According to Joshua Lingel of i2 Ministries, “Even more dramatic a change is the Arabic and Bangla (Bangladesh) translations. In Arabic, Bible translations err by translating ‘Father’ as ‘Lord.’ ‘Guardian.’ ‘Most High’ and ‘God.” In Bangla, ‘Son of God’ is mistranslated ‘Messiah of God’ consistent with the Quran’s Isa al-Masih (Jesus the Messiah), which references the merely human Jesus.”

In response to these translations, many within the evangelical missions movement as well as many former Muslim converts and indigenous Christians from countries where these translations are being used, are indignant. After numerous appeals have been rejected, a petition has been launched to call for the end to the translations.

Thousands have signed up.

Now Wycliffe Global Alliance American consultant Mary Lederleitner, while not saying whether the new translations actually say “Cleanse them by water…”, reveals the groups are searching for the best way to communicate the truth of who God the Father is so that the truth can be understood.

It is in correlation with crap like this:

In 2007, Rick Warren, Bill Hybels and others signed the Yale Document that says that Muslims and Christians worship the same God. The Yale Document speaks of ‘one God’ when it declared ‘We applaud that A Common Word Between Us and You stresses so insistently the unique devotion to one God,’

Not only is God not the same as Allah, but if you read the Quran's description of Allah, and the Bible's description of Satan, you'll find your similarities.

 

[Unkotare]

Just waiting on you.

No more insults, false accusations, questions loaded with their own conclusions? Ready to discuss like a big-boy now? Just say so and I'll be happy to answer any questions.

Still waiting.

Me too.

 

[thebrucebeat]

This attack on Christianity will continue until the New World Order bibles are ready to be passed out. They are being printed now with any reference to Jesus removed and God and Allah being touted as one and the same. Our children will be urged to bring those books to school and read to the class from them. Satan isn't anti false Gods, he's anti-Christ.

Do you have a citation for this new bible you suggest is imminent?
A credible link that this actually exists and is to be implemented as a public school text?
It is the willingness to believe such nonsense that exemplifies the need for perceived persecution in the believer.

Has nothing to do with perceived persecution, but an adding to and taking away from the word of God, by the politically correct:

Wycliffe Bible Translators, the Summer Institute of Linguistics and Frontiers, all of which were reported producing Bible translations that remove or modify terms which they have deemed offensive to Muslims.

Involved is the removal of any references to God as “Father,” to Jesus as the “Son” or “the Son of God.” One example of such a change can be seen in an Arabic version of the Gospel of Matthew produced and promoted by Frontiers and SIL. It changes Matthew 28:19 from this:

“baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit”

to this:

“cleanse them by water in the name of Allah, his Messiah and his Holy Spirit.”

While the Bible teaches throughout about God the Father, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit, Muslims are told in the Quran that God has no children. They perceive Jesus as another prophet.

According to Joshua Lingel of i2 Ministries, “Even more dramatic a change is the Arabic and Bangla (Bangladesh) translations. In Arabic, Bible translations err by translating ‘Father’ as ‘Lord.’ ‘Guardian.’ ‘Most High’ and ‘God.” In Bangla, ‘Son of God’ is mistranslated ‘Messiah of God’ consistent with the Quran’s Isa al-Masih (Jesus the Messiah), which references the merely human Jesus.”

In response to these translations, many within the evangelical missions movement as well as many former Muslim converts and indigenous Christians from countries where these translations are being used, are indignant. After numerous appeals have been rejected, a petition has been launched to call for the end to the translations.

Thousands have signed up.

Now Wycliffe Global Alliance American consultant Mary Lederleitner, while not saying whether the new translations actually say “Cleanse them by water…”, reveals the groups are searching for the best way to communicate the truth of who God the Father is so that the truth can be understood.

It is in correlation with crap like this:

In 2007, Rick Warren, Bill Hybels and others signed the Yale Document that says that Muslims and Christians worship the same God. The Yale Document speaks of ‘one God’ when it declared ‘We applaud that A Common Word Between Us and You stresses so insistently the unique devotion to one God,’

Not only is God not the same as Allah, but if you read the Quran's description of Allah, and the Bible's description of Satan, you'll find your similarities.

So you have no evidence that this is some plot to take over American education.
Got it.

 

[thebrucebeat]

No more insults, false accusations, questions loaded with their own conclusions? Ready to discuss like a big-boy now? Just say so and I'll be happy to answer any questions.

Still waiting.

Me too.

For what?
I have stated a question.
Are you going to answer it?

 

[Unkotare]

Still waiting.

Me too.

For what?
I have stated a question.
Are you going to answer it?

State it without any qualifiers, insults, or false premises if you don't mind.