Corker's Comments Will Lead to Over-Ruling WV Workers Vote Again Unionizing!

[GHook93]

The solution, as I see it, is to impose import taxes on cars made outside the U.S. by U.S. car companies equal to the labor savings, nullifying those profits at the expense of workers.

That would backfire 10 fold!

 

[Dutch]

The actual article in Reuters says,

As Volkswagen workers vote, Tennessee senator ramps up anti-union talk | Reuters

How can someone call someone else out before the 2nd someone even makes the statement?

Get it? The VW chief says 'there is no connection' and Corker comes out LATER and says there is.

Then, dimocrap scum, take it out of context and present the story as if Corker made his statement first and got called out on it by the VW Chief LATER.

Which is inaccurate.

No.

It's a lie.

It's what dimocrap scum do. They lie.

They lie, they cheat, they steal, they corrupt, they suck.

Any time a dimocrap types or says ANYTHING, you can count on it being a lie.

It usually is.

CON$ervoFascist scum lie while accusing others of lying.

Corker made TWO statements. One BEFORE Fischer and one AFTER Fischer.

From your own link:

"On Wednesday, Corker escalated what has been a seesaw battle between union and anti-union forces, saying he had been "assured" that if workers at the factory reject the UAW, the company would reward the plant with a new product to build.
Corker on Thursday issued a second statement, saying his information is better than that of Fischer, the top-ranked VW official at Chattanooga."

Fascists are socialists.

And I would just as soon shoot a socialist as look at him.

Get your shit straight.

Now that we've got some clarity on the issue, maybe we can debate it.

When did Fischer make his statement? When did Fischer say Corker was lying? How did Corker's original statement mesh with Fischer's statement?

And please point out to me where Fischer called a United States Senator a liar?

You can't. Because the only liars in here are dimocrap scum; like you.

I win. Eat a Glock, bitch

You are not going to shoot anyone Edgie. In my experience people who talk a big game like you are the biggest pussies when the SHTF.

 

[ClosedCaption]

You'll notice that every answer from repubs consists of telling you the way things are is fine and if its not fine there is no solution

 

[Synthaholic]

The solution, as I see it, is to impose import taxes on cars made outside the U.S. by U.S. car companies equal to the labor savings, nullifying those profits at the expense of workers.

That would backfire 10 fold!

Why?

 

[GHook93]

The solution, as I see it, is to impose import taxes on cars made outside the U.S. by U.S. car companies equal to the labor savings, nullifying those profits at the expense of workers.

That would backfire 10 fold!

Why?

Look around the world the big three exports a ton cars, esp South of the border.

 

[J.E.D]

Everyone has heard the news that 87% of the workers at the TN VW plant voted against unionizing.

87%? Uh...no. It was a little over 50%.

 

[Synthaholic]

That would backfire 10 fold!

Why?

Look around the world the big three exports a ton cars, esp South of the border.

...and?

C'mon - use your words, and explain what you mean.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Why?

Look around the world the big three exports a ton cars, esp South of the border.

...and?

C'mon - use your words, and explain what you mean.

Other nations would impose retaliatory tariffs on our products.

 

[Gadawg73]

My grand nephew and his father both work at that plant.
They researched the situation with all other US auto manufacturers and the UAW for the last 50 years. One thing stood out clearly and made their mind up to oppose the union and vote no.
Every factory that has been closed and every manufacturer that went bankrupt the UAW was there.

 

[edthecynic]

Intimidating VW Workers Could Come Back to Haunt Republican Pols by Ed Kilgore | Political Animal | The Washington Monthly

This news (via Reuters) falls with the predictable weight of another shoe dropping, but it’s interesting that it’s happening so fast, even as conservatives everywhere are still celebrating the successful intimidation of VW workers in Tennessee by local Republican politicians:

Volkswagen’s top labor representative threatened on Wednesday to try to block further investments by the German carmaker in the southern United States if its workers there are not unionized….​

German workers enjoy considerable influence over company decisions under the legally enshrined “co-determination” principle which is anathema to many politicians in the U.S. who see organized labor as a threat to profits and job growth.​

Chattanooga is VW’s only factory in the U.S. and one of the company’s few in the world without a works council.​

“I can imagine fairly well that another VW factory in the United States, provided that one more should still be set up there, does not necessarily have to be assigned to the south again,” said Bernd Osterloh, head of VW’s works council.​

“If co-determination isn’t guaranteed in the first place, we as workers will hardly be able to vote in favor” of potentially building another plant in the U.S. south, Osterloh, who is also on VW’s supervisory board, said.​

The 20-member panel - evenly split between labor and management - has to approve any decision on closing plants or building new ones.​

I’m sure most Republicans don’t consider Osterloh a legitimate representative of VW management, which has had this socialistic “co-determination” system foisted upon it by socialistic Big Government in Germany (known to U.S. conservatives in other contexts, of course, as the heroic champions of public-sector austerity). But the fact remains that Bob Corker and other noisy opponents of UAW representation of VW workers in Tennessee used the argument that VW would surely send any new work somewhere else if the union was approved to great effect in the runup to last week’s election. It would be richly ironic if that argument turned out to be off by 180 degrees.

 

[Iceweasel]

but it’s interesting that it’s happening so fast, even as conservatives everywhere are still celebrating the successful intimidation of VW workers in Tennessee by local Republican politicians:

Your kind always makes me laugh. It's perfectly fine for a Democrat, union, or even president to "intimidate" companies or people. Your hypocrisy is transparent. But your substance is seriously lacking. The article is about intimidations by the German union, not consequences of Corker's comments. The voters are aware of the track record the UAW in closing plants so your smear attempt has a long uphill climb.

 

[Seawytch]

Turns Out Anti-Union Volkswagen Workers May Have Screwed Themselves And The South

The German "co-determination" model mandates works councils, which connect employees to management, at all large German companies. Following the union vote, the head of Volkswagen's works council told German newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung that the automaker would hesitate to expand in the U.S. South.

Way to go! Ready, aim...shoot foot!

 

[Iceweasel]

Turns Out Anti-Union Volkswagen Workers May Have Screwed Themselves And The South

The German "co-determination" model mandates works councils, which connect employees to management, at all large German companies. Following the union vote, the head of Volkswagen's works council told German newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung that the automaker would hesitate to expand in the U.S. South.

Way to go! Ready, aim...shoot foot!

Liberals need nothing more than the allegation. The head of their union doesn't make the call. Evidence for that is that the Tennesse plant wasn't unionized. Duh. There's a reason the plant went up there, VW likely considered all options.

They will expand or not expand regardless of what some socialist loon cries about in Germany.

 

[Gadawg73]

Turns Out Anti-Union Volkswagen Workers May Have Screwed Themselves And The South

The German "co-determination" model mandates works councils, which connect employees to management, at all large German companies. Following the union vote, the head of Volkswagen's works council told German newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung that the automaker would hesitate to expand in the U.S. South.

Way to go! Ready, aim...shoot foot!

Wrong, sorry.
VW has to put that show up to appease their unions at home.
They ARE most happy here without the UAW as why would they choose TN IN THE FIRST PLACE if they wanted a union shop?
Why did they pass on ALL union states?
You are smart and know the answer.

 

[Ame®icano]

VW workers voted against UAW by 76 votes, or 53%.

Left doesn't like outcome and demand new vote.

Would left mind new presidential election?

 

[nodoginnafight]

Corker is a buffoon - that's a given. But I think Volkswagen coming out immediately and saying the site selection for the SUV line was not connected to the union vote in any way, was probably enough to ward off any tampering charges. IMHO.

 

[Gadawg73]

Unions are for folks too ignorant to individually negotiate their skill level. A union worker settles for the medium of what the skill level is of the mob.
If one does not like their wage one can walk.

 

[JoeB131]

Unions are for folks too ignorant to individually negotiate their skill level. A union worker settles for the medium of what the skill level is of the mob.
If one does not like their wage one can walk.

Yeah, because, hey, there's nothing like a negotiation based on a complete inequality of power.

That's what really bothers plutocrats and their inbred supporters. An actual fair fight.

We can potentially hurt you as much as you can hurt us.

Of course, the real problem here wasn't that management was against a union. VW actually WANTED a union, because being from a vastly more advanced society, they see the benefits of workers councils.

The problem is with the Southern Mindset (no doubt the results of centuries of racism and inbreeding) that accepts a class system as perfectly normal. You might be dirt poor white trash, but at least you are a step above them coloreds!

What? Some Yankee be coming down here telling us that we'd have a stronger position if we collectively negotiated working conditions?

 

[Sallow]

U.S. senator drops bombshell during VW plant union vote | Reuters

Everyone has heard the news that 87% of the workers at the TN VW plant voted against unionizing. That is 6 in 7 voting against it. This is good news, because Unionizing threatens the plant and getting a new SUV to produce. In fact, if they voted to Unionize their jobs would eventually be shipped to Mexico.

But I digress. On the eve of the election, Senator Corker comes out and states "I've had conversations today and based on those am assured that should the workers vote against the UAW, Volkswagen will announce in the coming weeks that it will manufacture its new mid-size SUV here in Chattanooga."

This is illegal tampering with a Union election. We should be celebrating the election results, instead we will see the election be set aside and the Union thugs coming in and doubling down and STEAL the election.

Here is what I see going down:
(1) A lawsuit leads to the election getting set aside.
(2) The Union thugs come in and use their bully tactics (meaning they state if unionization doesn't happen they will use their clout to force a plant shut down, offer pies in the sky etc.)
(3) Unionization passes by a narrow margin.
(4) VW moves the SUV they were planning to build in TN to Mexico and there are lay offs.
(5) As the Union makes demands and uses strong arm tactics, within 5 years the plant closes the operations are moved to Mexico.

Good job Corker! Instead of the plant expanding it will be shut down in 5 years with the jobs being outsourced to Mexico.

Sometimes you just need to SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!

87%?

Where the fuck do you get these numbers?

The vote was 712 against the union and 626 in favor. There are about 1,550 hourly workers at the plant who were eligible to vote
VW employees say 'no' to United Auto Workers in Tennessee - CNN.com

 

[dannyboys]

Unions are for folks too ignorant to individually negotiate their skill level. A union worker settles for the medium of what the skill level is of the mob.
If one does not like their wage one can walk.

Yeah, because, hey, there's nothing like a negotiation based on a complete inequality of power.

That's what really bothers plutocrats and their inbred supporters. An actual fair fight.

We can potentially hurt you as much as you can hurt us.

Of course, the real problem here wasn't that management was against a union. VW actually WANTED a union, because being from a vastly more advanced society, they see the benefits of workers councils.

The problem is with the Southern Mindset (no doubt the results of centuries of racism and inbreeding) that accepts a class system as perfectly normal. You might be dirt poor white trash, but at least you are a step above them coloreds!

What? Some Yankee be coming down here telling us that we'd have a stronger position if we collectively negotiated working conditions?

That's right fool. Germany is a "vastly more advanced society"...............unless you happen not to be 'Pure Laine' White. German car manufacturing assembly lines are 100% White! You want to see 'racism'? Check out any car manufacturing assembly line lunch room. The 'colored' workers are not even allowed to enter the lunch rooms until every White worker has left. So don't give me any of your moronic claims.
The 'colored' do whatever jobs the 'Pure Laine' workers refuse to. Like cleaning the floors and toilets.
You are so stupid you don't know the difference between a "workers council" and a union.
After the union reps leave the 'workers council' meeting they are union members in name only.
I have been a delegate for a 'workers council' and in union negotiations. HUGE difference in the way reps from 'workers councils' are treated. They are treated as soon as they walk in the door like they are upper middle management. With all the perks and deference you can imagine. It made zero difference to VW whether the place became unionized or not. A 'workers council' within a union or out means VW has committed allies going forward.