Cost of Illegal Immigration, By State

[Humorme]

When will you Lefties understand that Mexicans are not the only ones who enter this country illegally?

Both sides are equally guilty of demagoguing the issue. Guess you missed the post inferring that all the undocumented foreigners were using stolen (sic) Social Security Numbers. Honesty works both ways - and that comes from someone that has NEVER been on the left.

Guess you missed the post inferring that all the undocumented foreigners were using stolen (sic) Social Security Numbers.

Not all of them, some of them are working for cash.

And they're not undocumented foreigners, they're illegal aliens.

More of your idiocy that has helped destroy the Republic. A person is not an illegal any damn thing until they've been arrested, booked, jailed, made bail, went to the appropriate hearings, went through discovery, gone to trial, been found guilty of a crime and sentenced.

Your strategies have sent many of your own to jails and prisons - and some people from your own side have been murdered by LEOs because you cannot comprehend the importance of a presumption of innocence / innocent until proven guilty.

 

[Humorme]

Let's be blunt here:

Undocumented foreigners pay all the taxes that the rest of society does. The only tax in dispute is the income tax.

Frankly, I don't give two hoots in Hell about the income tax. The 16th Amendment was illegally ratified; it isn't necessary; it is unwarranted; it is socialism and stealing from the American workers. Yet those who hate the little brown people from across the southern border would subject you to that tax just to get rid of the foreigners.

Adding insult to injury, the undocumented foreigners pay roughly $12 BILLION DOLLARS per year into Socialist Security and cannot draw out one thin dime in retirement. That is a figure that comes from the Chief Actuary of the Social Security Administration.

The last thing this issue is about is taxes. If it weren't for the anti-immigrant lobby, the constitutionalists had the income tax issue all but won and that wouldn't even be a factor. But, like professional race pimps that need the racism issue, the anti-immigrants have to create a tax issue so they prop up an unconstitutional, immoral, illegal, unconscionable, indefensible tax like the income tax (which is also a plank out of the Communist Manifesto.) But, what the Hell, if outright communism will get rid of the people from south of the border, the anti-immigrant lobby is game.

Adding insult to injury, the undocumented foreigners pay roughly $12 BILLION DOLLARS per year into Socialist Security and cannot draw out one thin dime in retirement.

Why should criminals using stolen Social Security numbers get to draw out money in retirement?

Give them all the boot.

While I don't give a rip about your efforts to prop up a plank from the Communist Manifesto, bear in mind most undocumented foreigners have either the Socialist Surveillance Number .... ooops, "Social Security Number" OR an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number.

If someone "steals" an SSN I don't personally care. I'd rather have the undocumented foreigners here and watch that institution along with the IRS rot in Hell. Feel free to defend it, however.

If someone "steals" an SSN I don't personally care. I'd rather have the undocumented foreigners here

Yes, you've already revealed your stupidity.​

You are the pot what calls the kettle black. You've proven that if we had a thousand like you and turned their brains into dynamite, there wouldn't be enough charge to blow one's nose.

I would have a battle of wits with you, but I don't really like fighting unarmed men (and I use that term very liberally in this case.)

Tell me more about my bank making more loans, just because my house increased in value. DERP!

I can't force you to be right.

 

[Humorme]

and property tax if they own a home, or they pay the property tax of their landlord's in their rent payment....and if one of the DACA or a legal card holding immigrant, they pay both federal and state income taxes (and payroll taxes I believe?) ....plus they buy lottery tickets, and they pay tobacco/cigarette taxes both federal and state and liquor taxes....sin taxes, and if they drive they pay gas taxes both federal and state,,,,

and property tax if they own a home,

Illegal aliens buy homes with stolen Social Security numbers?

Give them all the boot.

You don't need an SSN to buy a house.

When's the last time you took out a loan or opened up an account at a bank? LOL!

I'm in the process of suing a bank at the moment. Does that count? When they settle, what smart ass comment will you have to make then?

Are you suing them because they required your Social Security number to do business? LOL!

What Social Security Number? I don't have an account with that bank. Got anything related to this thread or are you still trolling?

 

[Humorme]

Human trafficking has become a major problem, with 800,000 people missing each year in the states. And they likely are taken through Mexico before being shipped off to some shithole country where it's estimated they will die within 7 years. Being forced onto drugs and into prostitution would be a horrible thing yet it's happening in alarming numbers. The border wall would help stop the human traffickers as well as the drug cartels. How on earth can anyone object to that? And what the fuck did braindead Pelosi mean when she said a wall would infringe on the rights of illegals? It would make life harder for all criminals.

We have a right to know who is coming in this country and we don't owe shit to anyone who doesn't respect our laws.

The left is not the only people opposed to your silly wall. It's about more than the dollar cost. Did you ever hear of Benjamin Franklin?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

When will you Lefties understand that Mexicans are not the only ones who enter this country illegally?

Both sides are equally guilty of demagoguing the issue. Guess you missed the post inferring that all the undocumented foreigners were using stolen (sic) Social Security Numbers. Honesty works both ways - and that comes from someone that has NEVER been on the left.

Guess you missed the post inferring that all the undocumented foreigners were using stolen (sic) Social Security Numbers.

Not all of them, some of them are working for cash.

And they're not undocumented foreigners, they're illegal aliens.

More of your idiocy that has helped destroy the Republic. A person is not an illegal any damn thing until they've been arrested, booked, jailed, made bail, went to the appropriate hearings, went through discovery, gone to trial, been found guilty of a crime and sentenced.

Your strategies have sent many of your own to jails and prisons - and some people from your own side have been murdered by LEOs because you cannot comprehend the importance of a presumption of innocence / innocent until proven guilty.

A person is not an illegal any damn thing until they've been arrested, booked, jailed, made bail, went to the appropriate hearings, went through discovery, gone to trial, been found guilty of a crime and sentenced.

Bullshit.
An alien who enters the country illegally or who overstays their visa is an illegal alien.
Whether we know about them or not.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Adding insult to injury, the undocumented foreigners pay roughly $12 BILLION DOLLARS per year into Socialist Security and cannot draw out one thin dime in retirement.

Why should criminals using stolen Social Security numbers get to draw out money in retirement?

Give them all the boot.

While I don't give a rip about your efforts to prop up a plank from the Communist Manifesto, bear in mind most undocumented foreigners have either the Socialist Surveillance Number .... ooops, "Social Security Number" OR an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number.

If someone "steals" an SSN I don't personally care. I'd rather have the undocumented foreigners here and watch that institution along with the IRS rot in Hell. Feel free to defend it, however.

If someone "steals" an SSN I don't personally care. I'd rather have the undocumented foreigners here

Yes, you've already revealed your stupidity.​

You are the pot what calls the kettle black. You've proven that if we had a thousand like you and turned their brains into dynamite, there wouldn't be enough charge to blow one's nose.

I would have a battle of wits with you, but I don't really like fighting unarmed men (and I use that term very liberally in this case.)

Tell me more about my bank making more loans, just because my house increased in value. DERP!

I can't force you to be right.

Show more of your banking ignorance. It's amusing.

You obviously do not understand banking. Your home, being held as collateral, is the holdings of that bank. If they are holding the mortgage on your home, they can use its value to loan out money.

DERP!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

and property tax if they own a home,

Illegal aliens buy homes with stolen Social Security numbers?

Give them all the boot.

You don't need an SSN to buy a house.

When's the last time you took out a loan or opened up an account at a bank? LOL!

I'm in the process of suing a bank at the moment. Does that count? When they settle, what smart ass comment will you have to make then?

Are you suing them because they required your Social Security number to do business? LOL!

What Social Security Number? I don't have an account with that bank. Got anything related to this thread or are you still trolling?

Still pointing out your errors.
Tell me more about your bank accounts/bank loans where you didn't provide your SSN.

 

[Humorme]

When will you Lefties understand that Mexicans are not the only ones who enter this country illegally?

Both sides are equally guilty of demagoguing the issue. Guess you missed the post inferring that all the undocumented foreigners were using stolen (sic) Social Security Numbers. Honesty works both ways - and that comes from someone that has NEVER been on the left.

Guess you missed the post inferring that all the undocumented foreigners were using stolen (sic) Social Security Numbers.

Not all of them, some of them are working for cash.

And they're not undocumented foreigners, they're illegal aliens.

More of your idiocy that has helped destroy the Republic. A person is not an illegal any damn thing until they've been arrested, booked, jailed, made bail, went to the appropriate hearings, went through discovery, gone to trial, been found guilty of a crime and sentenced.

Your strategies have sent many of your own to jails and prisons - and some people from your own side have been murdered by LEOs because you cannot comprehend the importance of a presumption of innocence / innocent until proven guilty.

A person is not an illegal any damn thing until they've been arrested, booked, jailed, made bail, went to the appropriate hearings, went through discovery, gone to trial, been found guilty of a crime and sentenced.

Bullshit.
An alien who enters the country illegally or who overstays their visa is an illegal alien.
Whether we know about them or not.

Spread your communist bullshit thick and one day when it's your ass on the line with nobody to respect your Rights, get back to me.

"An avidity to punish is always dangerous to liberty. It leads men to stretch, to misinterpret, and to misapply even the best of laws. He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." THOMAS PAINE.

 

[Humorme]

You don't need an SSN to buy a house.

When's the last time you took out a loan or opened up an account at a bank? LOL!

I'm in the process of suing a bank at the moment. Does that count? When they settle, what smart ass comment will you have to make then?

Are you suing them because they required your Social Security number to do business? LOL!

What Social Security Number? I don't have an account with that bank. Got anything related to this thread or are you still trolling?

Still pointing out your errors.
Tell me more about your bank accounts/bank loans where you didn't provide your SSN.

You haven't pointed out anything except your willingness to be proven to be trolling for fun. Your misrepresentations notwithstanding. You fool nobody but yourself. Off to bed. Some of us have to work - we all can't draw disability like you do for that mental handicap.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

When will you Lefties understand that Mexicans are not the only ones who enter this country illegally?

Both sides are equally guilty of demagoguing the issue. Guess you missed the post inferring that all the undocumented foreigners were using stolen (sic) Social Security Numbers. Honesty works both ways - and that comes from someone that has NEVER been on the left.

Guess you missed the post inferring that all the undocumented foreigners were using stolen (sic) Social Security Numbers.

Not all of them, some of them are working for cash.

And they're not undocumented foreigners, they're illegal aliens.

More of your idiocy that has helped destroy the Republic. A person is not an illegal any damn thing until they've been arrested, booked, jailed, made bail, went to the appropriate hearings, went through discovery, gone to trial, been found guilty of a crime and sentenced.

Your strategies have sent many of your own to jails and prisons - and some people from your own side have been murdered by LEOs because you cannot comprehend the importance of a presumption of innocence / innocent until proven guilty.

A person is not an illegal any damn thing until they've been arrested, booked, jailed, made bail, went to the appropriate hearings, went through discovery, gone to trial, been found guilty of a crime and sentenced.

Bullshit.
An alien who enters the country illegally or who overstays their visa is an illegal alien.
Whether we know about them or not.

Spread your communist bullshit thick and one day when it's your ass on the line with nobody to respect your Rights, get back to me.

"An avidity to punish is always dangerous to liberty. It leads men to stretch, to misinterpret, and to misapply even the best of laws. He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." THOMAS PAINE.

Defending our borders isn't communist bullshit.

 

[Liquid Reigns]

While I don't give a rip about your efforts to prop up a plank from the Communist Manifesto, bear in mind most undocumented foreigners have either the Socialist Surveillance Number .... ooops, "Social Security Number" OR an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number.

The SS # they may have is either faked/forged/stolen. An ITIN can't be used to get a job. SHRUG

If someone "steals" an SSN I don't personally care. I'd rather have the undocumented foreigners here and watch that institution along with the IRS rot in Hell. Feel free to defend it, however.

YAWN gotaluv the Sovereign Citizen ^^^^ idiots. SMFH

 

[Liquid Reigns]

I'm in the process of suing a bank at the moment. Does that count? When they settle, what smart ass comment will you have to make then?

Which has squat to do with your prior claims and the topic. SMFH

Can you sue the bank?
Sorry, But You Probably Can't Sue Your Bank. ... In lieu of lawsuits, they require mandatory arbitration, which basically means that you can't sue your bank in court, but instead are forced to have disputes resolved by a designated arbitrator, a kind of professional referee.

LMFAO

 

[Liquid Reigns]

More of your idiocy that has helped destroy the Republic. A person is not an illegal any damn thing until they've been arrested, booked, jailed, made bail, went to the appropriate hearings, went through discovery, gone to trial, been found guilty of a crime and sentenced.

Explain Expedited Removal which requires none of that and is a recorded Federal Misdemeanor. SHRUG

Your strategies have sent many of your own to jails and prisons - and some people from your own side have been murdered by LEOs because you cannot comprehend the importance of a presumption of innocence / innocent until proven guilty.

What immigration laws are used against US Citizens? SMFH

 

[Liquid Reigns]

What Social Security Number? I don't have an account with that bank. Got anything related to this thread or are you still trolling?

Can you sue the bank?
Sorry, But You Probably Can't Sue Your Bank. ... In lieu of lawsuits, they require mandatory arbitration, which basically means that you can't sue your bank in court, but instead are forced to have disputes resolved by a designated arbitrator, a kind of professional referee.

 

[Liquid Reigns]

The left is not the only people opposed to your silly wall. It's about more than the dollar cost. Did you ever hear of Benjamin Franklin?

Is this where you quote Ben Franklin out of context? And where he is actually discussing paying taxes (you know, the ones you hate and are against)? SMFH

 

[Liquid Reigns]

You haven't pointed out anything except your willingness to be proven to be trolling for fun. Your misrepresentations notwithstanding. You fool nobody but yourself. Off to bed. Some of us have to work - we all can't draw disability like you do for that mental handicap.

And yet you were just on disability yourself. SMFH LMFAO

 

[Vandalshandle]

Well, I guess that we should get rid of the riff-raff;

"As a DACA* student, Maria had to overcome insurmountable odds to pursue her education. A graduate from the Master's of Fine Arts Program at Yale University, she now teaches at the prestigious Pratt Institute in New York. Maria also plans to pursue a doctorate. Read her amazing story at http://www.myamericandreams.org/maria...

Wow! Cool!

Let's deport all the illegal aliens who didn't graduate from Yale.

Including the ones from Canada, or just the brown ones? Maybe, we should round them up, and put them into a camp, and make them wear a yellow "D" on the clothing, while we figure out a final solution.

Including the ones from Canada, or just the brown ones?

All of them. Even the Irish ones, the Polish ones and the Chinese ones....all of the illegal aliens.

Maybe, we should round them up, and put them into a camp, and make them wear a yellow "D" on the clothing, while we figure out a final solution.

The solution is to build a wall and send them all home.

I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better. It is an obsession that I just can't grasp. One thing I know for sure is that if it wasn't for the immigrants, it would be the Native Americans, or the blacks, or the brown citizens, or the Muslims, or the poor in the ghetto, or the old and disabled, or atheists, or unmarried mothers, or those collecting unemployment, or live in section 8 housing, or on food stamps, who make your life so unbearable that they simply must be harshly dealt with.

 

[Vandalshandle]

More of your idiocy that has helped destroy the Republic. A person is not an illegal any damn thing until they've been arrested, booked, jailed, made bail, went to the appropriate hearings, went through discovery, gone to trial, been found guilty of a crime and sentenced.

Explain Expedited Removal which requires none of that and is a recorded Federal Misdemeanor. SHRUG

Your strategies have sent many of your own to jails and prisons - and some people from your own side have been murdered by LEOs because you cannot comprehend the importance of a presumption of innocence / innocent until proven guilty.

What immigration laws are used against US Citizens? SMFH

I have explained this many times. In fact, I have explained it to you, but you are a slow learner. Expedited removal only applies to those who waive their right to a hearing and trial. If they refuse to do that, then they must be given their day in court. I am sure that this just rips the heart out of Trumpettes, but that damned Constitution just keeps getting in your way.

 

[Leo123]

I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better. It is an obsession that I just can't grasp. One thing I know for sure is that if it wasn't for the immigrants, it would be the Native Americans, or the blacks, or the brown citizens, or the Muslims, or the poor in the ghetto, or the old and disabled, or atheists, or unmarried mothers, or those collecting unemployment, or live in section 8 housing, or on food stamps, who make your life so unbearable that they simply must be harshly dealt with.

Then you are probably 'speelbound' by the callous attitude of illegal immigrants who don't care how much they undercut wages.....

 

[Vandalshandle]

I am spellbound as to how sincerely you people believe that ruining someone else's life will make yours better. It is an obsession that I just can't grasp. One thing I know for sure is that if it wasn't for the immigrants, it would be the Native Americans, or the blacks, or the brown citizens, or the Muslims, or the poor in the ghetto, or the old and disabled, or atheists, or unmarried mothers, or those collecting unemployment, or live in section 8 housing, or on food stamps, who make your life so unbearable that they simply must be harshly dealt with.

Then you are probably 'speelbound' by the callous attitude of illegal immigrants who don't care how much they undercut wages.....

No, I am not really "speelbound" by how much they cut your wages. Granted, if you pick grapes in the Imperial Valley, this might be an issue for you. Most Dreamers don't do that, but even if they did, I highly recommend that you get an education, and learn a trade in which someone whose primary language is not English, can not successfully compete with you. You could take up programming, but those jobs were all taken by the Vietnamese refugees decades ago, and for some reason, nobody cared. But, hey! If you need to blame your failure in life on someone, I guess that you can scapegoat dreamers. Blaming the Jews is no longer politically correct.