Could all Religions Come Together?

[irosie91]

Nope. Romans and The Jewish disciples weren't friends. Paul was even a Roman citizen and they killed him too. They did not influence what the disciples saw and recorded.
Later, the Catholic Church, used replacement theology and usurped the role of the Jew in the Bible and took the blessings of Abraham for themselves. They added to and took away from and created dogma that favored them.
That does not give you carte blanche to insult all Catholics. They are some of the best people I know.

Romans and jews were not friends is an understatement. The compilation of the NT
was not a jewish project----it was a project of
the EMPEROR OF THE FIRST REICH----very
definitely not a friend of jews. Your assertion that
I 'insult' all catholics is delusional. I refer to real
history. "ALL CATHOLICS" are not responsible for
the actions of the leaders of the "HOLY ROMAN
EMPIRE" which was made up of virtually ALL
CHRISTIANS for several hundred years. Some people make the vulgar error of saying things like----
"the catholics" did this or "the christians did that" or
"the jews did this or that". I avoid that offensive
lingo except when I am RESPONDING to the vulgar
people who do use such terminology

 

[irosie91]

It also was on a Friday afternoon. Jews didn’t carry out death sentences as Shabbos was approaching.

At the time of the Roman occupation of Judea and
the prominence of the Pharisees, Jews did not carry
out death sentences at all which is the christian
excuse for claiming DA JOOOS FORCED THE
ROMANS TO DO IT. In fact, at that time jews did
manage to accomplish assassinations and would have
had no problem assassinating Jesus if they WANTED
TO-----the romans would not have cared at all

 

[The Irish Ram]

It’s a new level of arrogance for a Christian to think she gets to define who a Jew is, isn’t? I don’t go around telling Christians who qualifies as a Christian!

Any more arrogant than telling Jews they are not Jews? What nerve.

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God differs with Lisa. He's gong to send 144,000 evangelizing Jews from every tribe to Israel during the Tribulation! EVANGELIZING! Lisa's worst nightmare! She hate them most of all!

Your Adolf reference is just aggressive nastiness on your part...

 

[irosie91]

Any more arrogant than telling Jews they are not Jews? What nerve.

What Is Messianic Judaism? | Jewish Voice

Messianic Judaism is the name given to New Covenant faith in Yeshua (Jesus) as Messiah by those who are of Jewish heritage. Messianic Jews are people who follow this practice.

www.jewishvoice.org

God differs with Lisa. He's gong to send 144,000 evangelizing Jews from every tribe to Israel during the Tribulation! EVANGELIZING! Lisa's worst nightmare! She hate them most of all!

Your Adolf reference is just aggressive nastiness on your part...

My adolf reference is historic fact-----not only of
the CATHOLIC IN GOOD STANDING ADOLF---but
it was the policy of the CHRISTIAN WORLD ---ie
virtually all christians before the REFORMATION
in the 1500s AD. Do you really want to do away
with the first 1500 years of christianity?

 

[Lisa558]

At the time of the Roman occupation of Judea and
the prominence of the Pharisees, Jews did not carry
out death sentences at all which is the christian
excuse for claiming DA JOOOS FORCED THE
ROMANS TO DO IT. In fact, at that time jews did
manage to accomplish assassinations and would have
had no problem assassinating Jesus if they WANTED
TO-----the romans would not have cared at all

I thought they did stoning.

 

[irosie91]

I thought they did stoning.

not at that time----in fact, the story about
Jesus and the Adulteress is utter BS. The story
itself paints Jesus as a PHARISEE since it was the
Pharisees who rejected capital punishment.
In christian fantasy land---jews were stoning people left and right without so much as a trial.
Capital punishment is reserved for massive
criminals like Adolf Eichmann---the ONLY
person executed by
Israel so far-------because the law there adheres to
some extent to the PHARISEE POV

 

[Lisa558]

not at that time----in fact, the story about
Jesus and the Adulteress is utter BS. The story
itself paints Jesus as a PHARISEE since it was the
Pharisees who rejected capital punishment.
In christian fantasy land---jews were stoning people left and right without so much as a trial.
Capital punishment is reserved for massive
criminals like Adolf Eichmann---the ONLY
person executed by
Israel so far-------because the law there adheres to
some extent to the PHARISEE POV

You’re very knowledgeable.

 

[The Irish Ram]

It also was on a Friday afternoon. Jews didn’t carry out death sentences as Shabbos was approaching.

Right, Just like they didn't believe in capital punishment...

When Christ was arrested there were no formal charges against Him. No witness had come forward to condemn Him. There was no warrant, no statement of guilt. He was tried at night by the Temple priests against Jewish Law. A trial that should have taken weeks took only hours before the Priests found Him guilty, then handed over to the Romans for a second trial.
They didn't care what day or night it was or if it was legal. They just wanted Him gone.

 

[irosie91]

You’re very knowledgeable.

not exactly----just an avid reader---uhm ---I IS SHY---socially

 

[The Irish Ram]

My adolf reference is historic fact-----not only of
the CATHOLIC IN GOOD STANDING ADOLF---but
it was the policy of the CHRISTIAN WORLD ---ie
virtually all christians before the REFORMATION
in the 1500s AD. Do you really want to do away
with the first 1500 years of christianity?

You may think you are cute linking me with old Adolf, but you aren't. You are so transparent. And the Catholics and ROME! again... you little one trick pony...

 

[The Irish Ram]

not at that time----in fact, the story about
Jesus and the Adulteress is utter BS. The story
itself paints Jesus as a PHARISEE since it was the
Pharisees who rejected capital punishment.
In christian fantasy land---jews were stoning people left and right without so much as a trial.
Capital punishment is reserved for massive
criminals like Adolf Eichmann---the ONLY
person executed by
Israel so far-------because the law there adheres to
some extent to the PHARISEE POV

lol. They stoned, Einstein. Paul held their coats for them while they stoned Steven.

Stoning:​

Saint Stephen, first martyr of Christianity, painted in 1506 by Marx Reichlich (1460–1520)

Stoning, or lapidation, is a method of capital punishment where a group throws stones at a person until the subject dies from blunt trauma. The Torah and Talmud prescribe stoning as punishment for a number of offenses. It has been attested as a form of punishment for grave misdeeds since ancient times.

 

[irosie91]

Right, Just like they didn't believe in capital punishment...

When Christ was arrested there were no formal charges against Him. No witness had come forward to condemn Him. There was no warrant, no formal charge, No statement of guilt. He was tried at night by the Temple priests against Jewish Law. A trial that should have taken weeks took only hours before the Priest found Him guilty, then handed over to the Romans for a second trial.
They didn't care what day or night it was or if it was legal. They just wanted Him gone.

you should stop whilst you imagine you are ahead.
Does the name CAIAPHAS sound familiar? well---
of course not ----it is not part of the jelly bean
curriculum. Caiaphas was a ROMAN APPOINTED
HIGH PRIEST----his reputation amongst jews even
today is UTTER SHIT----he did whatevah rome
wanted him to do. I am so intrigued with you that
I wonder----did someone tell you that Caiaphas
was a PHARISEE? uhm----were the money
changers PHARISEES? Jesus was wisked away
at nite-----by the jews who hated him?-----so why
did they not kill him then and there? I will help
you------Jesus was not the only person crucified...
nor were the traditional two others ---the robber
& the other guy the only two others. The Romans did mass crucifixions, and they did not crucify
"robbers" They crucified for crimes against
ROME----to wit, SEDITION-----aka PHARISEES

 

[irosie91]

You may think you are cute linking me with old Adolf, but you aren't. You are so transparent. And the Catholics and ROME! you little one trick pony...

You may think that your answer makes sense----
It don't. It proves that you have no knowledge of
the history of christianity-----another hint---
ROBIN HOOD was a catholic. The reformation did
not happen until the 1500s AD. The Inquistion is
part of YOUR HISTORY as is the Crusades (the
very bloody crusades) uhm even Saint Patrick--
the guy who brought christianity to Ireland ---
was catholic

 

[The Irish Ram]

You mean Caiaphas, the Jewish Pharisee? Yeah, He was a Jew. And a Temple Priest. And was right in the middle of the mix. Concerning those who went out to arrest Him:
Luke 22:52 “Then Jesus said to the chief priests, captains of the temple, and the elders who had come to Him, ‘Have you come out, as against a robber, with swords and clubs?’

Money changers were....money changers.

 

[irosie91]

lol. They stoned, Einstein. Paul held their coats for them while they stoned Steven.

Stoning:​

Saint Stephen, first martyr of Christianity, painted in 1506 by Marx Reichlich (1460–1520)

Stoning, or lapidation, is a method of capital punishment where a group throws stones at a person until the subject dies from blunt trauma. The Torah and Talmud prescribe stoning as punishment for a number of offenses. It has been attested as a form of punishment for grave misdeeds since ancient times.

the stoning of Stephen---IF IT HAPPENED was not
an execution----it was a lynching. During the time
that the unlikely event is said to have taken place
JEWS DID EFFECTUATE ASSASSINATIONS but not
as a legal proceeding. If I remember correctly---
the "scripture" described the event as a crowd
chasing the "Stephen" and throwing stones at him

 

[The Irish Ram]

You may think that your answer makes sense----
It don't. It proves that you have no knowledge of
the history of christianity-----another hint---
ROBIN HOOD was a catholic. The reformation did
not happen until the 1500s AD. The Inquistion is
part of YOUR HISTORY as is the Crusades (the
very bloody crusades) uhm even Saint Patrick--
the guy who brought christianity to Ireland ---
was catholic

Oh dear God. You are so erratic, you make no sense. You just went from Temple Priests to Robin Hood and of course CATHOLICS!!! and ROME!!!!

 

[The Irish Ram]

the stoning of Stephen---IF IT HAPPENED was not
an execution----it was a lynching.

Well Steven will be happy to hear that!!!

As for the rest of your screed:

Acts 22:20 And when the blood of Stephen thy witness was shed, I stood by and consented, and kept the garments of them that killed him.​

They were stationary...

 

[irosie91]

You mean Caiaphas, the Jewish Pharisee? Yeah, He was a Jew. And a Temple Priest. And was right in the middle of the mix:
Luke 22:52 “Then Jesus said to the chief priests, captains of the temple, and the elders who had come to Him, ‘Have you come out, as against a robber, with swords and clubs?’

Money changers were....money changers.

Oh gee----your jelly bean education is shining thru
again----CAIAPHAS was a SADDUCEE----the antithesis of Pharisee. The Sadducees and the
Romans were FRIENDS. <<<< very basic---
anyone who read the NT with ANY level of
knowledge of the times would know THAT.
Money changers were jews as you have correctly
stated. The question is---were they PHARISEES?
MONEY CHANGER is not a SECT

 

[irosie91]

Oh dear God. You are so erratic, you make no sense. You just went from Temple Priests to Robin Hood and of course CATHOLICS!!! and ROME!!!!

in understanding an era----knowing what was what and who was who is VITAL. Did you pass geometry
in High School? Was Nero a pharisee?

 

[The Irish Ram]

Oh gee----your jelly bean education is shining thru
again----CAIAPHAS was a SADDUCEE----the antithesis of Pharisee. The Sadducees and the
Romans were FRIENDS. <<<< very basic---
anyone who read the NT with ANY level of
knowledge of the times would know THAT.
Money changers were jews as you have correctly
stated. The question is---were they PHARISEES?
MONEY CHANGER is not a SECT

lol. No clue what your little jelly bean brain is trying to convey. Do Catholics eat jelly beans? Are you still pretending I'm catholic so you can do CATHOLICS!?
Again, money changers were...money changers, like I said earlier.