RetiredGySgt
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The left does not CARE about all the illegal shit they did and do they just want trump removed by any means at all including illegal means.
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The left does not CARE about all the illegal shit they did and do they just want trump removed by any means at all including illegal means.
Of course it would be a problem but it is how he seems to do things. He seems to delight in creating constitutional crises out of thin air.Not so much as that but more like just refusing to leave Mar-a-lago one day and tweeting his resignation with little warning or explanation.
That would really cause a problem, because the law requires his resignation go to the secretary of state.
3 U.S. Code § 20 - Resignation or refusal of office
3 U.S. Code § 20 - Resignation or refusal of office
The only evidence of a refusal to accept, or of a resignation of the office of President or Vice President, shall be an instrument in writing, declaring the same, and subscribed by the person refusing to accept or resigning, as the case may be, and delivered into the office of the Secretary of State.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 644, 62 Stat. 678.)
Imagine the arguments on this board if Trump pardons himself and all and then is impeached.
Its actually an interesting question, isn't it?
Like it or not, the WshPost IS reporting that Trump has asked his lawyers to delve a bit more regarding what pardoning powers his office has....
Of course, if this is true, one could conclude that Trump is hunkering down into a virtual bunker mentality and we can kiss goodbye to anything that he promised to get elected.
But, we know that a president CAN pardon others, but can he or she ever pardon himself?
The Constitution is silent on this and, I will readily admit, Trump (if nothing else) is having us re-review that document and other laws on emolument clauses, conflicts of interests, etc.
The best analogy that one can make is to ask the question: "Can a judge find HIMSELF or HERSELF NOT guilty of some criminal or civil infraction? Or, is the "pardoning" action strictly one that someone bestows on another rather than oneself?
Paraphrasing the Chinese proverb, "may we all live in interesting times."....and WE ARE.
Of course it would be a problem but it is how he seems to do things. He seems to delight in creating constitutional crises out of thin air.
The left does not CARE about all the illegal shit they did and do they just want trump removed by any means at all including illegal means.
actually, one of Nixon's biographers wrote that Nixon contemplated "pardoning" himself......But, wisely,he thought that he could not live down the shame of that action and opted to resign instead, living that task to Ford (which made Ford's chances to be elected nearly nil.).There's no way people would let that shit ride even if it was possible.
I kind of hope he tries just so I can witness the chaos that ensues.
Brings me to tears knowing Trump is fighting for American families while exposing his family to the onslaught of EVIL
Yes, I see this as the most likely scenario for the end of the Trump administration. At the point where he is not getting any more adulation and ass-kissing he will walk. He did not spend all that money to be president just to be treated like this.Of course it would be a problem but it is how he seems to do things. He seems to delight in creating constitutional crises out of thin air.
If Trump tweets his regisnation, it would no be official, hence he would remain president. At that point, Pence, and the cabinet would exercise the 25th amendment, saying Trump was unable to discharge the duties of the office and Pence would become acting president. Then they could take their time cleaning up the paperwork.
Brings me to tears knowing Trump is fighting for American families while exposing his family to the onslaught of EVIL
Trump is spending most of his time, figuring out ways to save his own ass, and those of his family and friends.
He hasn't spent a minute writing healthcare legislation.
Brings me to tears knowing Trump is fighting for American families while exposing his family to the onslaught of EVIL
Trump is spending most of his time, figuring out ways to save his own ass, and those of his family and friends.
He hasn't spent a minute writing healthcare legislation.
or working with our military in any capacity ... he just turned the military over to the generals
Brings me to tears knowing Trump is fighting for American families while exposing his family to the onslaught of EVIL
Trump is spending most of his time, figuring out ways to save his own ass, and those of his family and friends.
He hasn't spent a minute writing healthcare legislation.
or working with our military in any capacity ... he just turned the military over to the generals
or working with our military in any capacity ... he just turned the military over to the generals
or working with our military in any capacity ... he just turned the military over to the generals
thanks to Defense Secretary General James Mad Dog Mattis, America is back on the attack, ISIS is on the run, and the world knows it.
Wrong if he pardons himself and then is impeached the Pardon was BEFORE the impeachment and does not effect it, but thanks for playing dumb ass.giving himself a pardon wont stop impeachment proceedings if they should ever start.
but the question alone is proof the sorry fucker is guilty and he knows it.
[Ironically just the opposite.] strike that out
The presidents power to grant pardons is excepted by cases of impeachment. So whether Trump pardons and is then impeached, or is impeached and then grants himself a pardon, the pardon is voided by the constitution.
Once again if he pardons himself BEFORE impeachment the impeachment does not effect the pardon dumb ass.Imagine the arguments on this board if Trump pardons himself and all and then is impeached.
Presidential pardons can't be issued in cases of impeachment. - US Constitution Article II
Hey RETARD? Presidents don't write legislation.Brings me to tears knowing Trump is fighting for American families while exposing his family to the onslaught of EVIL
Trump is spending most of his time, figuring out ways to save his own ass, and those of his family and friends.
He hasn't spent a minute writing healthcare legislation.
Oh, "rumors have it". I guess when you're a desperate snowflake you grab onto anything. Right, snowflake?Pardon himself for what?
Ask him......Rumors have it that he's asking attorneys to explore his "pardoning option".......Maybe Barron misbehaved, I don't know.