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How many times do you have to be told, Sobieski?
Palestinian Jews were Jewish inhabitants of Palestine (known in Hebrew as Eretz Israel, the "Land of Israel") prior to the establishment of the modern state of Israel.
Like Native Americans lived before White Americans?
People should have rights to the land they live on.
You think otherwise as a Zionist.
1. The Indians were not 'native.'
2. Those stone-age savages had no concept of ownership of land, or of capitalism, before the European settlers taught them.
3. There is no comparison with Zionist or the indigenous Jews of Israel.
You're a bigoted dunce.
The Native Americans are indigenous.
When are you giving up your house to them?
Instead you support Jewish indigenous rights, because you're a hypocrite Zionist.
If Native Americans tomorrow possessed the military resources and manpower to stage a revanchist campaign in the United States, then they are wholly within their moral rights to do so.
Just as the Jews were in Palestine in 1948.
You're just jealous that the Jews actually succeeded and managed to pull it off.
God's laws of karma are always in effect. It's poetic and beautiful, even when it isn't.
I'm calling bull.
The majority of the land who've lived there long enough to create a cultural aspiration, should have rights.
White Americans like Palestinians are unique cultural identities enough to ultimately give them rights to the lands they live on.
That’s so weird. Watching the tiki torch Nazi republicans marching in Charlottesville, it seems to me the holocaust got them all excited.
What nonsense......you must be a government school grad. Have you ever read a book?
Do you know what a book is?????
1. Did the colonists steal THEIR land?
"The implications for the Indian question are straightforward. Namely: In the extremely unlikely event that any particular Indian can show that he personally is the rightful heir of a particular Indian who was wrongfully dispossessed of a particular piece of property, the current occupants should hand him the keys to his birthright and vacate the premises. Otherwise the current occupants have the morally strongest claim to their property,and the status quo should continue.
Anything more is just the doctrine of collective guiltmasquerading as a defense of property rights."
Do Indians Rightfully Own America Bryan Caplan EconLog Library of Economics and Liberty
2. "One popular history of Manhattan notes that the Canarsie Indians "dwelt on Long Island, merely trading on Manhattan, and their trickery [in selling what they didn't possess to the Dutch] made it necessary for the white man to buy part of the island over again from the tribes living near Washington Heights. Still more crafty were the Raritans of [Staten Island], for therecords show that Staten Island was sold by these Indians no less than six times."
The Straight Dope How much would the 24 paid for Manhattan be worth in today s money
1626 Peter Minuit purchased the island of Manhattan from the Canarsee Native Americans on May 24, 1626. However, the Canarsee were actually native to Brooklyn, while Manhattan was home instead to the Weckquaesgeek,(Wappnai) who were not pleased by the exchange and later battled the Dutch in Kieft's War. Peter Minuit (1589-1638)
3. And because they had no concept of private property, Indians regularly killed the animals that they hunted to the point of extinction.
I’m not discussing transactional exchanges and land acquisitions.
I speak strictly of the wars of conquest and the lands annexed or incorporated as a result. The Indian wars.
PS: you don’t need to have a concept of private property to protest the idea of being uprooted from your original land base/ forcibly made to move elsewhere.
They weren't 'uprooted,' you dunce.
They migrated from one place to another, and slaughtered any in their way.
"Many thousands of years before Christopher Columbus’ ships landed in the Bahamas, a different group of people discovered America: the nomadic ancestors of modern Native Americans who hiked over a “land bridge” from Asia to what is now Alaska more than 12,000 years ago. In fact, by the time European adventurers arrived in the 15th century A.D., scholars estimate that more than 50 million people were already living in the Americas. Of these, some 10 million lived in the area that would become the United States. As time passed, these migrants and their descendants ....."
https://www.history.com/topics/native-american-history/native-american-cultures
I bet some nice adult will help you get a library card......
BTW......Go Rangers!!!
It's funny how white people claim they 'discovered America'. We Native Americans already living here had no idea you people thought it was 'lost'. And 'OBTW', Leif Ericson and the Vikings had 'discovered' America (not the Bahamas) long before Chris landed there, enslaved most of the population and killed many more off with the introduction of their 'foreign' diseases'. (Personally I think 'Columbus Day' should be replaced with 'Leif Ericson Day - who would not rather run around drinking, 'raping, pillaging, and plundering' and wearing Viking horns?!)
There were no 'native' American.
My ancestors wandered over from Asia.
"killed many more off with the introduction of their 'foreign' diseases'."
The diseases were an accident of nature, as was the Bubonic Plague of Europe, which came from North Africa.
In neither case was it planned.
Yeah, over 10,000 years ago Native Americans came in from Asia. (Rolls eyes)
How far are we going back?
If we go back 60,000 years, then we probably all as Eurasians migrated from Ethiopia.
Wow, deport all Eurasians back to Ethiopia.
or'
how about trying to claim Ethiopia, because 60,000 years ago..
Oh my goodness, talk about a stretch.
You’re such a dishonest piece of shit.D-Tlaib:
"There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust, and the tragedy of the Holocaust."
Welcome to the New Socialist Pro-Tertorist Anti-Semitic Democratic Party...
Rashida Tlaib slammed by House GOP over statement that Holocaust gives her 'kind of a calming feeling'
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Here's the party you support:
The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.
Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.
I don't support either party. However your post is garbage. Republicans have managed to alienate Blacks, Asians, Hispanics, better educated voters, and women to name a few groups they have alienated.
You have Republicans moving to the far right by criminalizing abortion and what is so sad is we have male legislators telling a woman what she can do with her body. Falwell shuts down anybody who is against Trump. There is no evidence any illegals have voted. Opposing Netanyahu is not anti-Semitism.
You are a garbage right wing Trump supporter and Americans are sick of Trump.
1. I said nothing about 'alienating' anyone. I said this:
The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.
You didn't deny it....yet you said you don't support either party. You must be a fool, huh?
2. "You have Republicans moving to the far right by criminalizing abortion.."
Obviously you support murder and infanticide...
There is no way to separate abortion from infanticide for this reason: what if a child is born as a result of an unsuccessful attempted abortion?
And, as several states now allow abortion up to the moment of birth,… “The state of New York recently passed a horrific new abortion law removing almost all previous restrictions. The law now allows abortions to be performed up to the point of natural birth by physicians and also by some non-physician health care practitioners. It also removes protections for babies who accidentally survive an abortion procedure.” New York abortion law changes allow infanticide
"7 states already allow abortion up to birth — not just New York"
7 states already allow abortion up to birth — not just New York
…..the result of what happens to that child is included here:
“The practice in some societies of killing unwanted children soon after birth.”
infanticide | Definition of infanticide in English by Oxford Dictionaries
There is no dancing around it. It is infanticide.
3. There is no Far Right in this nation.....I'd be happy to prove it.
1. The Republican Party is anti-Muslim, anti-Hispanic, anti anyone but white males. The party is sympathetic to white supremacists and neo-nazis. They will support men who sexually harass women and even men who sexually assault women.
2. You have right wing extremists who support heartbeat bills. There is no evidence that a fetal heartbeat is a sign of a life. You people want to criminalize abortion. Ultimately it is a woman's right to do as she fits with her body. You do not end abortion by making it illegal. You end it by reaching out to women and convincing them not to have a abortion. This is a good example of what happens when we fail to have a separation between church and state.
3. The Republican Party has been taken over by the far right or more specifically white supremacists and neo-nazis. Unfortunately the so-called conservatives have sold their soul to the devil aka Trump just to get power.
Everything in your post is false.
There is no Far Right in this country.
And, I can make you prove it.
Since you are a member of the far right, there probably is no far right to you. Being a Trump supporter makes you a natural born liar. Everything is true.
LOLThat may be what some fringe righties call her, but they're saddled with the intellect of a 4 year old and think Obama's name is "Obummer" and think his wife is a dude. So I can't go by that either.So you say, but you're fucked in the head, so I can't really go by what you say, now can I?Sadly, you prove once again that you're crazy. I never said I liked her. I don't know that much about her. What I said was that I support her and by that I"m speaking in terms of this latest comment of hers. I agree with YOUR link, the right is spinning her words out of context.
Problem is that this is not her first time dissing Jews
If she has made anti-Semitic comments in the past, that's fucked up and shamed on her. But what she said yesterday was not anti-Semitic and her words were spun by the right to make her comment appear anti-Semitic. Clearer minds see through that.
Am I? LMAO You're the one with the weird avatar.
Her nickname is Rashida Taliban for a reason.
And what's so weird about my avatar? Robert Mueller is a great American who I respect. Maybe you're confusing my avatar with yours?
You picked that avatar to go anti Trump and most independents do not like Tlaib either. Nice try.
Hey easyt65 - where are you getting that period after ‘holocaust’? Did you pull it out of your ass? It’s not in the original because that wasn’t the end of her sentence, dickweed.You’re such a dishonest piece of shit.D-Tlaib:
"There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust, and the tragedy of the Holocaust."
Welcome to the New Socialist Pro-Tertorist Anti-Semitic Democratic Party...
Rashida Tlaib slammed by House GOP over statement that Holocaust gives her 'kind of a calming feeling'
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No, that's a different question. You asked for evidence of "Arabs acting calmly toward Jewish refugees."
D-Tlaib: ""There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust"
I did, right there.
Yet no one made any such crazed assertion; so who knows what spastic issues you deal with?
Simply stated, she felt good about how her people helped the Jews during the holocaust. That was her intended message. Now take issue with the historical accuracy of what she said about that whole situation, that’s fine. But don’t try and say she felt calm about the holocaust. That’s a lie and we all know it.She was talking about a personal calming feeling not her calm people. Same as saying “I was assured of...” “I felt good about...” etc. Are you really not understanding or are you just doing a piss poor spin job?The calmness came from the actions of her people, not from the holocaust. It isn’t complicated. Simple English.I listened to it multiple times. I can't tell what she meant.
Her calm people tried to destroy Israel after they declared statehood and refer to the Nabka.
Neither sounds like a calm reaction to the Jew's safe haven.
She was talking about a personal calming feeling not her calm people.
Fine. Why did she have her calm feeling? Because the Jews were finally safe?
Are you really not understanding
I'm really not understanding what she was trying to say.
No. Do you think it was?No, that's a different question. You asked for evidence of "Arabs acting calmly toward Jewish refugees."
D-Tlaib: ""There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust"
I did, right there.
Yet no one made any such crazed assertion; so who knows what spastic issues you deal with?
You asked for evidence of "Arabs acting calmly toward Jewish refugees."
Yet no one made any such crazed assertion;
Was that what Tlaib was claiming?
No. Do you think it was?No, that's a different question. You asked for evidence of "Arabs acting calmly toward Jewish refugees."
D-Tlaib: ""There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust"
I did, right there.
Yet no one made any such crazed assertion; so who knows what spastic issues you deal with?
You asked for evidence of "Arabs acting calmly toward Jewish refugees."
Yet no one made any such crazed assertion;
Was that what Tlaib was claiming?
LOLThat may be what some fringe righties call her, but they're saddled with the intellect of a 4 year old and think Obama's name is "Obummer" and think his wife is a dude. So I can't go by that either.So you say, but you're fucked in the head, so I can't really go by what you say, now can I?Problem is that this is not her first time dissing Jews
If she has made anti-Semitic comments in the past, that's fucked up and shamed on her. But what she said yesterday was not anti-Semitic and her words were spun by the right to make her comment appear anti-Semitic. Clearer minds see through that.
Am I? LMAO You're the one with the weird avatar.
Her nickname is Rashida Taliban for a reason.
And what's so weird about my avatar? Robert Mueller is a great American who I respect. Maybe you're confusing my avatar with yours?
You picked that avatar to go anti Trump and most independents do not like Tlaib either. Nice try.
That doesn't mean Independents refer to Tlaib as Rashida Taliban like some nutty rightwingers do. Regardless, let's see your evidence that most Independents don't like Tlaib....
And you didn't elucidate about what is weird about my avatar. Pointing out why I picked it doesn't make it weird. What's weird about a Mueller avatar?
No. Do you think it was?No, that's a different question. You asked for evidence of "Arabs acting calmly toward Jewish refugees."
D-Tlaib: ""There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust"
I did, right there.
Yet no one made any such crazed assertion; so who knows what spastic issues you deal with?
You asked for evidence of "Arabs acting calmly toward Jewish refugees."
Yet no one made any such crazed assertion;
Was that what Tlaib was claiming?
Hard to tell what the fuck she was trying to say.
What do you think made her feel calm?
Disgusting that powerful Jewish Democrat politicians like Bernie Sanders, Chuck Schumer, Diane Feinstein, Debbie Wasserman Schutz, Brian Shatz, Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler all biting their tongue and put their party first instead of their race. Didn't the Jews act like that with the Nazis in WWII?
LOLNo. Do you think it was?No, that's a different question. You asked for evidence of "Arabs acting calmly toward Jewish refugees."
D-Tlaib: ""There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust"
I did, right there.
Yet no one made any such crazed assertion; so who knows what spastic issues you deal with?
You asked for evidence of "Arabs acting calmly toward Jewish refugees."
Yet no one made any such crazed assertion;
Was that what Tlaib was claiming?
Hard to tell what the fuck she was trying to say.
What do you think made her feel calm?
No, I don't hate trump supporters. I pity them. And I don't hate trump. I just don't respect him.LOLThat may be what some fringe righties call her, but they're saddled with the intellect of a 4 year old and think Obama's name is "Obummer" and think his wife is a dude. So I can't go by that either.So you say, but you're fucked in the head, so I can't really go by what you say, now can I?
If she has made anti-Semitic comments in the past, that's fucked up and shamed on her. But what she said yesterday was not anti-Semitic and her words were spun by the right to make her comment appear anti-Semitic. Clearer minds see through that.
Am I? LMAO You're the one with the weird avatar.
Her nickname is Rashida Taliban for a reason.
And what's so weird about my avatar? Robert Mueller is a great American who I respect. Maybe you're confusing my avatar with yours?
You picked that avatar to go anti Trump and most independents do not like Tlaib either. Nice try.
That doesn't mean Independents refer to Tlaib as Rashida Taliban like some nutty rightwingers do. Regardless, let's see your evidence that most Independents don't like Tlaib....
And you didn't elucidate about what is weird about my avatar. Pointing out why I picked it doesn't make it weird. What's weird about a Mueller avatar?
You picked it because you hate Trump and all Trump supporters. Yes or No? That makes it weird. You had no idea who Mueller was before the bogus investigation.
As far as Jew hater Rashida.
The Voter's Self Defense System
No, I don't hate trump supporters. I pity them. And I don't hate trump. I just don't respect him.LOLThat may be what some fringe righties call her, but they're saddled with the intellect of a 4 year old and think Obama's name is "Obummer" and think his wife is a dude. So I can't go by that either.Am I? LMAO You're the one with the weird avatar.
Her nickname is Rashida Taliban for a reason.
And what's so weird about my avatar? Robert Mueller is a great American who I respect. Maybe you're confusing my avatar with yours?
You picked that avatar to go anti Trump and most independents do not like Tlaib either. Nice try.
That doesn't mean Independents refer to Tlaib as Rashida Taliban like some nutty rightwingers do. Regardless, let's see your evidence that most Independents don't like Tlaib....
And you didn't elucidate about what is weird about my avatar. Pointing out why I picked it doesn't make it weird. What's weird about a Mueller avatar?
You picked it because you hate Trump and all Trump supporters. Yes or No? That makes it weird. You had no idea who Mueller was before the bogus investigation.
As far as Jew hater Rashida.
The Voter's Self Defense System
As far as Mueller, I respect the role he played in this and how he handled himself and his investigation.
