Debt is Pushing the US Into Fascism

[MisterBeale]

You mean 'socialism', georgephillip.

 

[georgephillip]

No, but I do enjoy watching the mindless left-wingers freaking out non-stop . Please continue! I am enjoying this.

Do you enjoy listening to conservative clowns like this?

"Michael Caputo, the assistant secretary of health for public affairs, told a Facebook audience without evidence that left-wing hit squads were being trained for insurrection, and he accused C.D.C. scientists of 'sedition.'"

Trump Health Aide Falsely Alleges Conspiracies and Warns of Armed Revolt

 

[georgephillip]

hey can create paper, yes. That doesn't actually improve anything. Zimbabwe did that, and the result was economic ruins for the government, and the country.

Government can spend and then tax; thereby, putting unused resources to work in order to stimulate production whenever the private sector can't find enough profit to make shareholder's happy.

https://bsahely.com/2018/09/25/mode...uthority-john-laurits/#How_Modern_Money_Works

"Just as modern money is created from nothing by spending it into circulation, money is destroyed through taxation.

"The ‘taxpayer dollar’ funds nothing — it is deleted from the money supply, nothing more.

"Taxes do not fund spending because it is impossible for a monetarily sovereign government to need its citizens’ fiat paper to alter numbers in a spreadsheet.

"Taxation’s most important function is to generate a base-level of demand for the currency by ensuring those who benefit from participating in the nation’s economic production or commerce must also use some of its currency.

"Since taxation removes currency from circulation, taxation is also a lever to fine-tune inflation."

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

hey can create paper, yes. That doesn't actually improve anything. Zimbabwe did that, and the result was economic ruins for the government, and the country.

Government can spend and then tax; thereby, putting unused resources to work in order to stimulate production whenever the private sector can't find enough profit to make shareholder's happy.

https://bsahely.com/2018/09/25/mode...uthority-john-laurits/#How_Modern_Money_Works

"Just as modern money is created from nothing by spending it into circulation, money is destroyed through taxation.

"The ‘taxpayer dollar’ funds nothing — it is deleted from the money supply, nothing more.

"Taxes do not fund spending because it is impossible for a monetarily sovereign government to need its citizens’ fiat paper to alter numbers in a spreadsheet.

"Taxation’s most important function is to generate a base-level of demand for the currency by ensuring those who benefit from participating in the nation’s economic production or commerce must also use some of its currency.

"Since taxation removes currency from circulation, taxation is also a lever to fine-tune inflation."

Government can spend and then tax; thereby, putting unused resources to work in order to stimulate production whenever the private sector can't find enough profit to make shareholder's happy.

The government should buy stuff nobody wants and then tax the productive to prevent that unneeded spending from causing inflation? DURR

 

[georgephillip]

Again, you don't pay the 'surplus value' created when someone adds a deck to your house that increases the value of your house.

Where's the board of directors and shareholders when someone adds that deck to your house? "The difference (between the Marxian and mainstream definition of corporation) is the surplus value appropriated by the corporation's board of directors."

 

[JakeStarkey]

Capitalism, instead of making slaves of workers and having to provide everything for them, allows the owners/management to keep the vast majority of metal chips will giving just enough metal chips to workers so they died and stop coming to work.

 

[georgephillip]

The government should buy stuff nobody wants and then tax the productive to prevent that unneeded spending from causing inflation? DURR

Citigroup, Closely Tied to the Clintons, Had a Senior V.P. Outed as a QAnon Promoter, a Conspiracy Group that Reviles the Clintons

"This is the perfect litmus test of just how little mainstream media knows about the dangerous Wall Street banks. Last Thursday, the fact-checking website, Logically, outed Jason Gelinas, who was living a secret-life as a promoter of the conspiracy group, QAnon, while also holding down a Senior V.P. technology position at Citigroup, a giant Wall Street bank that played a key role in the financial and economic collapse of 2008."

 

[Ray9]

The problem is not capitalism per se, it is corporatism running wild.

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“Fascism should be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.” | The Greanville Post

FRANK SCOTT—When capitalism is in its most critical state, pretense of democracy vanishes and big money power that always ruled from behind the scenes comes forward to publicly bring order to what seems to threaten chaos; democratic power accruing to the great mass of the people, which...

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Mussolini-Style Corporatism, aka Fascism, on the Rise in the US | naked capitalism

While the neoliberal economic order is not a replay of fascism,, there is a remarkable amount of inhibition in calling out the similarities.

www.nakedcapitalism.com

 

[georgephillip]

Envy alert...........begging at the moment........taking it after getting power

Amazon employees over 800,000 workers.
One worker is worth $180 billion.
Envy or Greed?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The government should buy stuff nobody wants and then tax the productive to prevent that unneeded spending from causing inflation? DURR

Citigroup, Closely Tied to the Clintons, Had a Senior V.P. Outed as a QAnon Promoter, a Conspiracy Group that Reviles the Clintons

"This is the perfect litmus test of just how little mainstream media knows about the dangerous Wall Street banks. Last Thursday, the fact-checking website, Logically, outed Jason Gelinas, who was living a secret-life as a promoter of the conspiracy group, QAnon, while also holding down a Senior V.P. technology position at Citigroup, a giant Wall Street bank that played a key role in the financial and economic collapse of 2008."

I mock Qanon idiocy just slightly less than your commie economics idiocy

And what does Qanon have to do with your moronic "idea" to buy unwanted goods?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Envy alert...........begging at the moment........taking it after getting power

Amazon employees over 800,000 workers.
One worker is worth $180 billion.
Envy or Greed?

One worker is worth $180 billion.

One owner is worth $180 billion.

Envy or Greed?

He built the company from scratch.
Hard fucking work!!!

 

[gipper]

Envy alert...........begging at the moment........taking it after getting power

Amazon employees over 800,000 workers.
One worker is worth $180 billion.
Envy or Greed?

One worker is worth $180 billion.

One owner is worth $180 billion.

Envy or Greed?

He built the company from scratch.
Hard fucking work!!!

Dumb.

 

[gipper]

Envy alert...........begging at the moment........taking it after getting power

Amazon employees over 800,000 workers.
One worker is worth $180 billion.
Envy or Greed?

Greed. Without question. As unjust as that is, it’s even worse because that little fucker Bezos has enormous political power, because of his enormous wealth.

 

[georgephillip]

its real simple George...what ever is not spelled out in the enumerated powers, are left to the states, or the people...it’s right there.

Corporations began in a much different place than where they are today...

What the Founding Fathers Really Thought About Corporations

"We don’t really begin to see economic enterprises chartered as corporations until the 1790s.

"Some are banks, others are companies that were going to build canals, turnpikes, and bridges — infrastructure projects that states did not have the money to build themselves.

"Citizens petitioned legislators for a corporate charter, and if a critical mass of political pressure could build in a capital, they got an act of incorporation.

"It specified their capitalization limitations, limited their lifespan, and dictated the boundaries of their operations and functions."

 

[Ray9]

its real simple George...what ever is not spelled out in the enumerated powers, are left to the states, or the people...it’s right there.

Corporations began in a much different place than where they are today...

What the Founding Fathers Really Thought About Corporations

"We don’t really begin to see economic enterprises chartered as corporations until the 1790s.

"Some are banks, others are companies that were going to build canals, turnpikes, and bridges — infrastructure projects that states did not have the money to build themselves.

"Citizens petitioned legislators for a corporate charter, and if a critical mass of political pressure could build in a capital, they got an act of incorporation.

"It specified their capitalization limitations, limited their lifespan, and dictated the boundaries of their operations and functions."

Oh yes, I know all about corporations. I used to work for one. They said, Ray you have freedom of speech and thought but if you say or think anything that does not agree with our corporate position, you know where the door is.

 

[gipper]

And has pushed Marxism ever since he gained his first degree....He is a documented Marxist...His credentials don't outweigh the strength of my argument.

The strength of your argument depends on how much you know about Marxism.

Marxism and socialism

"3. What is the Marxian definition of corporation? How is it different from the mainstream definition?

The strength of my argument is the constitution...And that is what we are governed by.

Dream on dude. The constitution died long ago. Wake the fuck up.

 

[gipper]

its real simple George...what ever is not spelled out in the enumerated powers, are left to the states, or the people...it’s right there.

Corporations began in a much different place than where they are today...

What the Founding Fathers Really Thought About Corporations

"We don’t really begin to see economic enterprises chartered as corporations until the 1790s.

"Some are banks, others are companies that were going to build canals, turnpikes, and bridges — infrastructure projects that states did not have the money to build themselves.

"Citizens petitioned legislators for a corporate charter, and if a critical mass of political pressure could build in a capital, they got an act of incorporation.

"It specified their capitalization limitations, limited their lifespan, and dictated the boundaries of their operations and functions."

It’s clear to some of us, the big corporations run the show and we are nothing but peons.

 

[georgephillip]

A Scottish quote from a bunch of wankers who the founding fathers threw out of the county.

Are you a SCOT............LOL

Are you a commie

or what?

 

[georgephillip]

But they don't deserve credit for changing the rules of the game like Bezos. They don't get the credit for what he did.

I'm not sure which rules you imagine Bezos broke?
He didn't change anything about the politically constructed laws that structure economic activity in such a way he could use those laws to amass $180 billion. He certainly didn't accomplish anything without the Internet which was created by the US taxpayer. Bezos in just another parasite getting rich off the productive labor of others.

 

[georgephillip]

“It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our necessities but of their advantages.”

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Why Intellectuals Don't Like Capitalism — Adam Smith Institute