Democracy: Yes or No

[progressive hunter]

Q. Why attack CNN, why not respond rationally and consider the points I made with some thought and not echo Limbaugh.

American isnt a democracy,,,,

What are we than?

if you have to ask you are to far gone for any help I could give,,,

 

[LordBrownTrout]

CNN, trump bad, "we're on the brink", Lol. Looks like another pile of manure for the flies to eat.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I think there is a difference between democracy and republicanism, although it is easily overlooked. Our system is republican in that the Founders understood that the public is the only legitimate sovereign of government. But it is not wholly democratic, in that they feared the abuse of that authority by the people and designed an instrument of government intended to keep temporary, imprudent, and intemperate outbursts of public opinion from dominating the body politic.

We the People elect electors for President and Vice President, a democratic process; we elected our Representatives in the H. or Rep. directly, clearly a democratic process; we directly elect Senators, once again a clearly democratic process.

We the People directly elect the Governors of our states, their representatives in their legislatures, and every city and town elect councils, boards of supervisors, mayors, school boards and Superintendents, etc. etc.

IMO it's time for the nine members of the USSC to be vetted by the voters on their 10th, 20th and 30th anniversaries closest to the General Election when the President is elected and be retired at age 70.

 

[Jitss617]

More food for thought:

Donald Trump's feud with Congress puts American democracy on the brink - CNNPolitics

For those, many who post on this message board, it seems they oppose universal suffrage and would prefer that only an elite should be eligible to vote.

For a long while some posters have denied we are a democratic republic, and prefer to use constitutional republic, some seek to overturn the 17th Amendment and some would require only property owners the right to vote.

Even the Supreme Court has watered down democracy in the two Citizen's United decisions and overturned a key provision of the Voting Rights Act to combat racial discrimination in voting.

"We have met the enemy and he is us"
Pogo

What ever happened to noblesse oblige: " the inferred responsibility of privileged people to act with generosity and nobility toward those less privileged."

We are a republic with constitutional rights that can’t be overturned... but you can freely move out

 

[LaDairis]

The Democrats support "democracy" for "America," but not for Bernie Sanders in the IOWA CAUCUS....

 

[MarathonMike]

More food for thought:

Donald Trump's feud with Congress puts American democracy on the brink - CNNPolitics

For those, many who post on this message board, it seems they oppose universal suffrage and would prefer that only an elite should be eligible to vote.

For a long while some posters have denied we are a democratic republic, and prefer to use constitutional republic, some seek to overturn the 17th Amendment and some would require only property owners the right to vote.

Even the Supreme Court has watered down democracy in the two Citizen's United decisions and overturned a key provision of the Voting Rights Act to combat racial discrimination in voting.

"We have met the enemy and he is us"
Pogo

What ever happened to noblesse oblige: " the inferred responsibility of privileged people to act with generosity and nobility toward those less privileged."

The Supreme Court is doing what it is supposed to do. They are upholding the Constitution and defending it against Leftist attempts to fill the voting booths with undocumented minorities. Why on Earth is it "Racist" to require a Voter ID card to vote? Why do Democrats twist an obviously sane requirement into "Voter Suppression" and "Discrimination"?

 

[Edgetho]

More food for thought:

Donald Trump's feud with Congress puts American democracy on the brink - CNNPolitics

For those, many who post on this message board, it seems they oppose universal suffrage and would prefer that only an elite should be eligible to vote.

For a long while some posters have denied we are a democratic republic, and prefer to use constitutional republic, some seek to overturn the 17th Amendment and some would require only property owners the right to vote.

Even the Supreme Court has watered down democracy in the two Citizen's United decisions and overturned a key provision of the Voting Rights Act to combat racial discrimination in voting.

"We have met the enemy and he is us"
Pogo

What ever happened to noblesse oblige: " the inferred responsibility of privileged people to act with generosity and nobility toward those less privileged."

Another "I Hate America" thread from another America-Hating dim.

shock

 

[Dick Foster]

More food for thought:

Donald Trump's feud with Congress puts American democracy on the brink - CNNPolitics

For those, many who post on this message board, it seems they oppose universal suffrage and would prefer that only an elite should be eligible to vote.

For a long while some posters have denied we are a democratic republic, and prefer to use constitutional republic, some seek to overturn the 17th Amendment and some would require only property owners the right to vote.

Even the Supreme Court has watered down democracy in the two Citizen's United decisions and overturned a key provision of the Voting Rights Act to combat racial discrimination in voting.

"We have met the enemy and he is us"
Pogo

What ever happened to noblesse oblige: " the inferred responsibility of privileged people to act with generosity and nobility toward those less privileged."

I propose that only those with some skin in the game be allowed to vote. But that's not bought with money, it's bought by serving your country by fulfilling a mandatory period of conscription that begins upon graduation from high school. If you're not willing to serve the nation then why should you be allowed a voice in how it's run? You'd have a choice of either two years military serve of four years non military in a CCC like outfit. Everyone that's able goes to boot camp. It applies universally to everyone regardless of gender, race, Creed, social status or wealth. No service = no vote.

Sounds like a fascist story line from Heinlein's "Starship Troopers"

I oppose mandatory conscription.

You can oppose it all you want but you don't deserve a vote if you won't serve your nation. We don't need cowards with no skin in the game. But I did offer a choice, either pick up a rifle and earn your own freedom or pick up a shovel and support those who do. If you won't do either go fuck yourself because we don't need any more cowards or deadbeats.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Q. Why attack CNN, why not respond rationally and consider the points I made with some thought and not echo Limbaugh.

American isnt a democracy,,,,

What are we than?

we are a republic. you should learn what our country is before you start supporting stupid people. just saying, you look pathetic.

Half correct, we are a democratic republic. See post #23

 

[progressive hunter]

Q. Why attack CNN, why not respond rationally and consider the points I made with some thought and not echo Limbaugh.

American isnt a democracy,,,,

What are we than?

we are a republic. you should learn what our country is before you start supporting stupid people. just saying, you look pathetic.

Half correct, we are a democratic republic. See post #23

all wrong,,,

we are a representative republic,,,,

 

[LaDairis]

65% of Americans support legal weed.

How can a "democracy" still have weed "illegal?"

 

[Moonglow]

American isnt a democracy,,,,

It is at the local level...

 

[Moonglow]

65% of Americans support legal weed.

How can a "democracy" still have weed "illegal?"

By having our autocratic leadership who's progressive views determines that legislation should be made to enforce our leader's morals and work ethics..

 

[progressive hunter]

American isnt a democracy,,,,

It is at the local level...

no its not,,,they are also restrained by the constitution,,,

 

[Wry Catcher]

Q. Why attack CNN, why not respond rationally and consider the points I made with some thought and not echo Limbaugh.

American isnt a democracy,,,,

What are we than?

we are a republic. you should learn what our country is before you start supporting stupid people. just saying, you look pathetic.

Half correct, we are a democratic republic. See post #23

all wrong,,,

we are a representative republic,,,,

Republic: "a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch"

 

[Moonglow]

More food for thought:

Donald Trump's feud with Congress puts American democracy on the brink - CNNPolitics

For those, many who post on this message board, it seems they oppose universal suffrage and would prefer that only an elite should be eligible to vote.

For a long while some posters have denied we are a democratic republic, and prefer to use constitutional republic, some seek to overturn the 17th Amendment and some would require only property owners the right to vote.

Even the Supreme Court has watered down democracy in the two Citizen's United decisions and overturned a key provision of the Voting Rights Act to combat racial discrimination in voting.

"We have met the enemy and he is us"
Pogo

What ever happened to noblesse oblige: " the inferred responsibility of privileged people to act with generosity and nobility toward those less privileged."

I propose that only those with some skin in the game be allowed to vote. But that's not bought with money, it's bought by serving your country by fulfilling a mandatory period of conscription that begins upon graduation from high school. If you're not willing to serve the nation then why should you be allowed a voice in how it's run? You'd have a choice of either two years military serve of four years non military in a CCC like outfit. Everyone that's able goes to boot camp. It applies universally to everyone regardless of gender, race, Creed, social status or wealth. No service = no vote.

Why? Because my Mom wouldn't like that idea..

 

[Moonglow]

Q. Why attack CNN, why not respond rationally and consider the points I made with some thought and not echo Limbaugh.

American isnt a democracy,,,,

What are we than?

we are a republic. you should learn what our country is before you start supporting stupid people. just saying, you look pathetic.

Half correct, we are a democratic republic. See post #23

all wrong,,,

we are a representative republic,,,,

Republic: "a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch"

Oh please! They stopped saying "We the people" after they slaughtered JFK...

 

[jc456]

More food for thought:

Donald Trump's feud with Congress puts American democracy on the brink - CNNPolitics

For those, many who post on this message board, it seems they oppose universal suffrage and would prefer that only an elite should be eligible to vote.

For a long while some posters have denied we are a democratic republic, and prefer to use constitutional republic, some seek to overturn the 17th Amendment and some would require only property owners the right to vote.

Even the Supreme Court has watered down democracy in the two Citizen's United decisions and overturned a key provision of the Voting Rights Act to combat racial discrimination in voting.

"We have met the enemy and he is us"
Pogo

What ever happened to noblesse oblige: " the inferred responsibility of privileged people to act with generosity and nobility toward those less privileged."

The Supreme Court is doing what it is supposed to do. They are upholding the Constitution and defending it against Leftist attempts to fill the voting booths with undocumented minorities. Why on Earth is it "Racist" to require a Voter ID card to vote? Why do Democrats twist an obviously sane requirement into "Voter Suppression" and "Discrimination"?

cause they are evil people.

 

[BlindBoo]

More food for thought:

Donald Trump's feud with Congress puts American democracy on the brink - CNNPolitics

For those, many who post on this message board, it seems they oppose universal suffrage and would prefer that only an elite should be eligible to vote.

For a long while some posters have denied we are a democratic republic, and prefer to use constitutional republic, some seek to overturn the 17th Amendment and some would require only property owners the right to vote.

Even the Supreme Court has watered down democracy in the two Citizen's United decisions and overturned a key provision of the Voting Rights Act to combat racial discrimination in voting.

"We have met the enemy and he is us"
Pogo

What ever happened to noblesse oblige: " the inferred responsibility of privileged people to act with generosity and nobility toward those less privileged."

I propose that only those with some skin in the game be allowed to vote. But that's not bought with money, it's bought by serving your country by fulfilling a mandatory period of conscription that begins upon graduation from high school. If you're not willing to serve the nation then why should you be allowed a voice in how it's run? You'd have a choice of either two years military serve of four years non military in a CCC like outfit. Everyone that's able goes to boot camp. It applies universally to everyone regardless of gender, race, Creed, social status or wealth. No service = no vote.

Sounds like a fascist story line from Heinlein's "Starship Troopers"

I oppose mandatory conscription.

You can oppose it all you want but you don't deserve a vote if you won't serve your nation. We don't need cowards with no skin in the game. But I did offer a choice, either pick up a rifle and earn your own freedom or pick up a shovel and support those who do. If you won't do either go fuck yourself because we don't need any more cowards or deadbeats.

Opinions are like.......Good luck getting that in the Constitution, Comrade Citizen Sir.

 

[Oddball]

then why do you need a driver's license or passport to fly?

Because The State has stolen your right to freely travel and sold it back to you as a privilege.

right? who said you have a right to board a plane? what amendment is that in?

You have a right to contract....Your plane ticket is a contract.