Oldstyle
Platinum Member
- Jul 19, 2011
- 31,206
- 4,935
Nixon actually approached the Commissioner of the IRS and tried to get him to use the IRS against people on his enemies list and the Commissioner refused. THAT was the final straw and what sent GOP leaders to the White House to tell Nixon that if he didn't resign that he would be impeached!Nixon only THOUGHT of doing what Obama actually did, and they pretend his administration was scandal freeWith all due respect, Jack...who on the Democratic side has been talking about healthcare, the environment, wages and taxes? Democratic leadership is focused on impeachment and have been for quite some time even though it's a loser and always has been. The voters are smart enough to grasp that fact...Democratic leaders don't seem to be!
Then you might not have been paying attention to the fact that the Democrat House members could walk and chew gum at the same time...however, in true obstructionist form, those bills are sitting on Mitch's desk. Link included just for information. I don't give a rat's patootie if people don't like the source.
House Democrats have passed nearly 400 bills. Trump and Republicans are ignoring them.
You can cross reference those on the above link list with what has actually been brought to the Senate and then sent on to be signed by You-Know-who.
Bills and Resolutions -- GovTrack.us
With all due respect AGAIN, Jack...I didn't ask who on the Democratic side has been passing bills...the House has been pumping out pipe dream legislation for the past three years...what I asked was who on that side of the aisle is talking about healthcare, the environment, wages and taxes? Pelosi, Schumer, Nadler and Schiff aren't! They're so all in on trying to impeach Trump that they spend most of their time trying to figure out some way to make that happen...which is itself a pipe dream because the GOP controlled Senate isn't going to impeach a Republican President on the nonsense that they'd TRIED to impeach him on! This "diversion" is self inflicted. It isn't the GOP that's got your leaders running in circles chasing their tails...that's the far left wing of the Democratic Party which has become the proverbial "tail wagging the dog"!
You're too focused on impeachment. It's got the bullhorn right now. Look at any of the Democratic candidates for President and you'll have your answer about who's talking about issues. And I'm sorry, the legislation put forth by House Democrats DOES speak to them addressing issues. The Republican controlled Senate's inaction on these bills speaks even louder.
Impeachment is about holding the President accountable for his abuse of power. I can guarantee you if this were a Democrat as President, we'd be in exactly the same situation...and you'd even have my support for removal if this was the level of evidence provided. No one is under any illusion that the Senate will vote to remove Trump. But if this kind of behavior is allowed to stand, you may as well tear up the rule book..because there won't be any rules.
You mean if Barack Obama abused his power you'd call for his impeachment? Like if he used the IRS against his political opposition? Or if he used the FBI to spy on his political opposition? Those kinds of abuse of power? The kind that Richard Nixon could have only DREAMED of but never came close to achieving?
To be quite blunt, Jack...I think you're full of shit! You looked the other way when Barack Obama was abusing his power but now it's suddenly become a matter of "national crisis" because Donald Trump asked someone to look into the Biden family's sleazy dealings?
Spare me your breathless hysteria about someone tearing up the rules! You don't even seem to understand what it is that Barack Obama DID when he was in power. It was a hell of a lot more insidious than anything Trump has done and you were perfectly OK with it!
Obama actually got his minions in the IRS to use the IRS against conservative groups and didn't even get a slap on the wrist for it! Neither did the people like Lerner that were involved in it.