Democrat Racism

[sealybobo]

Are you saying people got jobs based off of skin color not merit ??

What I was pointed out to you is that white males as a demographic, are overrepresented in corporate positions and political positions. And in the process, I also corrected your erroneous statement that whites represent 70% of the population.

As far as whether it is because of skin color, or not, is not for me to say.

But the prevailing belief among most here is that if a black person is by chance in a position of decision making or authority, that it must be based on an AA quota which prevented a more qualified white person from being successful.

Interesting. So when white men see a woman or black boss, their bias tells them that must be a person who benefited from unfair AA.

But when we point out that bias is why 95% of executives are white men, they say that's ridiculous to suggest bias is at play.

They can't even see how racist their thinking is. They believe there are good reasons why women and minorities are under represented and only see bad reasons when they do see a black or woman break through the class ceiling.

Or maybe most businesses are started by white men lol call me crazy ha

Who started the Fortune 500 companies? None of the CEO's at any of the fortune 500 companies started those companies. They were selected by a board of directors or the previous CEO. All of whom are/were white.

So they are bias. They pick people who are like them. Maybe you didn't learn this stuff in college.

Not only white but rich..So that narrows the field a little more..

The Ascend Foundation’s analysis shows that white men (with an EPI of 1.81) are by far the most-represented group in management; executive parity is a ratio of 1.0. Following them are Hispanic men (1.07), white women (0.65), black men (0.63), Asian men (0.56), Hispanic women (0.49), black women (0.30), and Asian women (0.24).

There are disturbing trends in economic mobility for African-Americans nationwide. White men continue to dominate executive and managerial roles at companies with more than 100 employees. Small businesses, those with fewer than 100 employees, are not included in the EEOC database.

 

[sealybobo]

I can only say one thing to NED. GET ER DONE!!!

Dismissing truth as 'bullshit", makes YOU dishonest.

There is no evidence of any discrimination. There is not a mass scale displacement of whites happening in the workforce or in colleges.

Unemployment rates, average pay rate, average college admission rate, and student body numbers, align or even exceed representation based on relative size of the white population compared to other groups on average.

Especially the black population, whose presence seems to disturb you.

Until you prove otherwise, your point is moot.

Yes....this is equality. Just not the version of what equality should look like to some individuals.

If you consider that a slap in the face of the 'hundreds of millions' of whites who supposedly have supported, "me and mine for generations", then get a tissue and start naming who they are, because "me and mine" have taken care of OURSELVES, for as far back as I can trace in my family tree.

Just what do you propose to "stop"? There is nothing that you nor those in the same financial bracket or less than you, can do to stop anything.

As you have implied, you are powerless because of "favoritism of "minorities by the left".....roflmao.

As far as whites participation in supporting AA, my parents nor did any of their siblings benefit from it, nor did I. I did not get a free education, or free shelter or any other "free shit", like you stereotyping bigots on this site often imply about the majority of black people.

I worked two jobs to pay for my education, and put my own kids through college, and plan on doing the same for my grandchildren.

I don't owe anyone shit, as far as gratitude and most people that I know don't either.

In fact, just as many, if not more white households have likely benefited from AA, due to the rise in white females earning more and having equal access to more management positions on average now than in past generations.

Former military personnel have benefitted from AA and the handicapped have benefitted from AA.

AA is not just a black and white initiative.

The initial benefits from AA that SOME blacks received at its introduction were received decades ago. And no, both political parties do not currently support the initiative.


I have said to you before, that you believe any positive gain by any black citizen in America, is at the expense of a white citizen, which in turn should be viewed with gratitude by every black citizen.


That is not equality either, that's self serving, egotistical bullshit

And It's really just a coded way of you stating a much different belief than you claim that you have.

You think that poor white and middle class people are victims who are getting screwed?

Going back to per capita yet again:

The AVERAGE white household in America has a higher net worth than nearly every other demographic except for Asians. So, on a relative basis, the people that you believe are victims, are far better off than the average family when compared side by side.

The Racial Wealth Gap: Addressing America's Most Pressing Epidemic

If you really believe that poor and middle class whites are getting screwed, then perhaps you should consider redirecting your political support towards voting out the very same fat cats that you voted in?

We need to stop supporting AA and it's ilk.


And we did redirect our political support. The moment we got someone who spoke to our interests.


ie Trump.

It’s not called that anymore. CEOs are pledging to be more diverse. And to recognize bias does play a role.

Don’t worry white men still dominate

I dont' care about other "white men" dominating or not.


I want equal treatment for me and mine.


Why are you refusing to address my actual position?

That's our goal too. For white men to stop getting PREFERENTIAL treatment.

Seely, I just happened to see this, this morning, I think it references a very informative example of the issue you are concerned with.

Here is how and why you will lose. This is a diverse country. Companies can't take the bad PR if their entire management team is all white. Just won't look right. It's not right. And these corporations are free to stay all white and all male but they will be put under a spotlight that I don't think they will like. And these companies don't give a damn about you white boys. Why should they? You are just another consumer in a very diverse country. You are a minority.

Right now white men have all the power but that just because we don't make women and minorities CEO's. If we did then it would be a diverse group of rich people of many different colors that hold all the power. But then we won't have race as a wedge issue anymore. You'll realize it's not blacks or poor people who are fucking you it's rich lobbyists of all colors and they only use race to divide us. Blacks got it the worst but even you seem butt hurt about your economic future.

I just deposited my tax return. $1800. I have so much money built up I need to invest $20,000. Any tips for me? WINNING!

Did you hear last month we only added 30,000 jobs? Wow that sucks. For all those tax breaks Trump passed out it hardly created a bump in the economy. Things are good don't get me wrong but maga? Maga for me maybe but Maga for you?

Stop blaming blacks. They got it worse

 

[sealybobo]

I give the same advice to poor whites as I do poor blacks. And we see one common denominator in prisoners. Most of them didn't have fathers.

African Americans' status in society has deteriorated over the last fifty years. For their part, white Americans' response has been to do everything possible to avoid contact with average black Americans. This is equally true for liberals and conservatives.

When the Las Vegas shooter killed 58 people, journalists rushed to assert that mass violence is a white ("privileged white") phenomenon:

"These shooters are almost exclusively coming from a single socio-economic class and racial group,” wrote actor Cole Sprouse in a widely shared Twitter thread. We must now address “what part of whiteness influences this kind of Petri dish for gun violence and killing.”

This means the population rate of mass shootings by whites is 0.021 per 100,000 people, while the corresponding rate of mass shootings by blacks is 1.7 times higher, at 0.037.

Engber then writes (extremely provocatively) that the reason we are impressed by African Americans only being 25 percent more likely to shoot many people at once is because they are so much more likely to kill individuals than whites are—630 percent more likely—with most of those victims being black:

Overall murder rates among black Americans are 6.3 times higher than they are for whites, according to a report from the Bureau of Justice Statistics. Another report suggests white offenders made up just 45.3 percent of everyone who committed homicides between 1980 and 2008.

That's a tough question that we liberals don't like to pose, perhaps even to acknowledge. What does it say that American inner cities are highly violent places? The ten most violent cities in the U.S., with the percentage of African Americans in each city in parentheses, are: 1. Baltimore (64%), 2. Detroit (83%), 3. New Orleans (60%), 4. Kansas City (28%), 5. Cleveland (53%), 6. Memphis (63%), 7. Newark (52%), 8. St. Louis (49%), 9. Chicago (33%), 10. Milwaukee (40%).

It's fair to say that all of these cities, as well has having large black populations, are deeply segregated. Many whites, obviously, have left cities because of their fear of black Americans, while remaining neighborhoods are highly segregated. The Wall Street Journal rated the 16 most segregated cities in the United States (including nearby suburbs). Eight of the ten cities with the highest murder rates are in the top 11 in terms of segregation: Detroit (#1), Chicago (#2), Memphis (#4), Cleveland (#5), New Orleans (#6), Baltimore (#8), St. Louis (#9), Memphis (#11).

Getting into the best schools, where almost all students graduate and are ready to attend college, often requires top scores on the state’s annual math and English tests and a high grade point average.

Those admitted to these most successful schools remain disproportionately middle class and white or Asian, according to an in-depth analysis of acceptance data and graduation rates conducted for The New York Times by Measure of America, an arm of the Social Science Research Council. At the same time, low-income black or Hispanic children . . . are routinely shunted into schools with graduation rates 20 or more percentage points lower.

How Are African Americans Doing? I: Violence and Segregation

At some point in time whites will figure it out.

I've read that link Sealybobo. You don't really understand how much you really don't know.

You don't seem to want to fault poor blacks for anything. Well I don't make these excuses for poor whites. Why are there poor whites? Yes it's because the system is rigged. Yes it's because there isn't enough economic opportunity for stupid blue collar whites. I admit it's not all their fault. But then I tell them not to have kids they can't afford, take school more seriously and get rid of that hick accent. And if you live in a shit hole move.

America aint gonna clean up the ghettos. Either you guys do it yourselves or move.

And according to you ghettos are low crime places???? I'm calling bullshit.

I don't blame poor blacks for conditions that are the root cause of the problem.

Everything you say is the problem isn't. Blacks are in the ghettos working while their money sits in backs and used for loans to develop white communities or suburbs. You can call bullshit all you want but whites make up 70 percent of all arrests nationally every year. It's funny, but when I lived in Portland, I'd watch the local news. I would watch multiple crimes happening in the suburbs nightly. Rapes, assaults battery's, robberies, vandalism, and sometimes murder. There were suburban gang fights, all of it. Then you get a killing on the NE side with 2-3 days of coverage until they got to show clips from the funeral then back to normal coverage.

When I left Portland and moved to KC, I saw the same type of coverage. There was all kinds of crimes going on in the burbs. No outrage, why their communities were all safer than the ghetto even though the local news showed a different picture.

So I did something crazy with some friends. We stood for 24 hours in what was then one of the supposed top 10 unsafe hoods in this country. The media even covered some of it. Nothing happened, it wasn't even close. I've walked late nights in hoods in KC, Portland, DC, New Orleans, Dallas, LA, and St. Louis during my life, never any harm. My best friend went to visit his daughter in Detroit. At the time he had a brand new car. He went clubbing in the hood and got so drunk he passed out in his car. He woke up in the morning and drove to his daughters house. He and his car unscratched. So you call bullshit all you want, but what I see in those places are people trying to survive on little or nothing. And all they need is for you fucked up whites with banks, cash registers, and government coffers filled with our money in them to use some of it to redevelop these communities utilizing the people in it. Not like Detroit who paid young white entrepreneurs to come in out of the suburbs.

Ditto. I felt safer when I used to travel on business in black neighborhoods after sunset than I did in rural areas of different states. Since you live in the midwest in Kansas City, I'm.sure you've heard of sundown towns like Cape Girardeau and Sikeston Missouri.

I would not be in either of those places for a minute after nightfall.

But I've been on the streets of Oakland, Fillmore, parts of Brooklyn, Harlem, Philadelphia, and the southside of Chicago very late at night and never had a problem.

Exactly. Whites here don't seem to get the fact they alone don't get to define a bad community. I'd feel safer in Detroit than every one of these all white "low crime" rural towns that surround where I live now.

There are encouraging signs: There’s a growing number of states and cities that prohibit questions about salary history on job applications, as a potential solution to wage discrimination. Nationally, there are increasing numbers of minorities in the managerial pipeline, greater public awareness of income inequality, and the emergence of the #MeToo movement. Many people, especially Millennials, agree and believe that black lives matter. And more corporations are acknowledging that they need to do better on diversity.

To continue to improve, we need identify corporate leaders in diversity. The Center for Employment Equity at UMass Amherst is one group that is making EEOC data easily accessible to the general public. Companies can (and should) examine their own industry performance and look for ways to improve.

Because despite the expansive growth of the U.S. economy over the past 40 years, diversity hiring has not kept pace. Bottom line, if racial and gender minorities think they perceive limited advancement opportunities — the so-called “glass ceiling” — they are right.

 

[Dick Foster]

STFU. This is the same old white racist gibberish repeated by republicans here every day.

So, outing racists is now considered ‘racist?’ The jig is up, it’s time for decent folks reject the Democrat Plantation.

Then out your party and STHU.

Nothing to out, Republicans are not racist. Democrats are the ones who round up people by skin color. And NO I'n not going to STHU.

You need to STHU because your posts are stupid. I read shitloads of racism coming from republicans here everyday. At the same time you maggots talk about how nobody alive was here during slavery we are supposed to leave the democratic party because of slavery. This is why you need to shut the fuck up.

No you should leave the democratic party because of stupidity but it seems you're comfortable among your own.

 

[IM2]

At some point in time whites will figure it out.

I've read that link Sealybobo. You don't really understand how much you really don't know.

You don't seem to want to fault poor blacks for anything. Well I don't make these excuses for poor whites. Why are there poor whites? Yes it's because the system is rigged. Yes it's because there isn't enough economic opportunity for stupid blue collar whites. I admit it's not all their fault. But then I tell them not to have kids they can't afford, take school more seriously and get rid of that hick accent. And if you live in a shit hole move.

America aint gonna clean up the ghettos. Either you guys do it yourselves or move.

And according to you ghettos are low crime places???? I'm calling bullshit.

I don't blame poor blacks for conditions that are the root cause of the problem.

Everything you say is the problem isn't. Blacks are in the ghettos working while their money sits in backs and used for loans to develop white communities or suburbs. You can call bullshit all you want but whites make up 70 percent of all arrests nationally every year. It's funny, but when I lived in Portland, I'd watch the local news. I would watch multiple crimes happening in the suburbs nightly. Rapes, assaults battery's, robberies, vandalism, and sometimes murder. There were suburban gang fights, all of it. Then you get a killing on the NE side with 2-3 days of coverage until they got to show clips from the funeral then back to normal coverage.

When I left Portland and moved to KC, I saw the same type of coverage. There was all kinds of crimes going on in the burbs. No outrage, why their communities were all safer than the ghetto even though the local news showed a different picture.

So I did something crazy with some friends. We stood for 24 hours in what was then one of the supposed top 10 unsafe hoods in this country. The media even covered some of it. Nothing happened, it wasn't even close. I've walked late nights in hoods in KC, Portland, DC, New Orleans, Dallas, LA, and St. Louis during my life, never any harm. My best friend went to visit his daughter in Detroit. At the time he had a brand new car. He went clubbing in the hood and got so drunk he passed out in his car. He woke up in the morning and drove to his daughters house. He and his car unscratched. So you call bullshit all you want, but what I see in those places are people trying to survive on little or nothing. And all they need is for you fucked up whites with banks, cash registers, and government coffers filled with our money in them to use some of it to redevelop these communities utilizing the people in it. Not like Detroit who paid young white entrepreneurs to come in out of the suburbs.

Ditto. I felt safer when I used to travel on business in black neighborhoods after sunset than I did in rural areas of different states. Since you live in the midwest in Kansas City, I'm.sure you've heard of sundown towns like Cape Girardeau and Sikeston Missouri.

I would not be in either of those places for a minute after nightfall.

But I've been on the streets of Oakland, Fillmore, parts of Brooklyn, Harlem, Philadelphia, and the southside of Chicago very late at night and never had a problem.

Exactly. Whites here don't seem to get the fact they alone don't get to define a bad community. I'd feel safer in Detroit than every one of these all white "low crime" rural towns that surround where I live now.

There are encouraging signs: There’s a growing number of states and cities that prohibit questions about salary history on job applications, as a potential solution to wage discrimination. Nationally, there are increasing numbers of minorities in the managerial pipeline, greater public awareness of income inequality, and the emergence of the #MeToo movement. Many people, especially Millennials, agree and believe that black lives matter. And more corporations are acknowledging that they need to do better on diversity.

To continue to improve, we need identify corporate leaders in diversity. The Center for Employment Equity at UMass Amherst is one group that is making EEOC data easily accessible to the general public. Companies can (and should) examine their own industry performance and look for ways to improve.

Because despite the expansive growth of the U.S. economy over the past 40 years, diversity hiring has not kept pace. Bottom line, if racial and gender minorities think they perceive limited advancement opportunities — the so-called “glass ceiling” — they are right.

We already know this sealybobo.

 

[IM2]

STFU. This is the same old white racist gibberish repeated by republicans here every day.

So, outing racists is now considered ‘racist?’ The jig is up, it’s time for decent folks reject the Democrat Plantation.

Then out your party and STHU.

Nothing to out, Republicans are not racist. Democrats are the ones who round up people by skin color. And NO I'n not going to STHU.

You need to STHU because your posts are stupid. I read shitloads of racism coming from republicans here everyday. At the same time you maggots talk about how nobody alive was here during slavery we are supposed to leave the democratic party because of slavery. This is why you need to shut the fuck up.

No you should leave the democratic party because of stupidity but it seems you're comfortable among your own.

You are truly a fucked up mental case. I reject the republican party and explained the historical, ideological and policy basis for my rejection and you still want to try pawning that off on I can't know why I remain a democrat.

 

[Jitss617]

You are incorrect. The white population in America is roughly 67% of the entire population, which includes females.

After white Hispanics are subtracted that number is closer to about 61%.


Non hispanic white MALES as a group are approximately 30% of the population, yet hold over 70% of corporate positions and 65% of political offices.
That was the point that you missed.


https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...graphics-most-politicians-are-still-white-men

Are you saying people got jobs based off of skin color not merit ??

What I was pointed out to you is that white males as a demographic, are overrepresented in corporate positions and political positions. And in the process, I also corrected your erroneous statement that whites represent 70% of the population.

As far as whether it is because of skin color, or not, is not for me to say.

But the prevailing belief among most here is that if a black person is by chance in a position of decision making or authority, that it must be based on an AA quota which prevented a more qualified white person from being successful.

Interesting. So when white men see a woman or black boss, their bias tells them that must be a person who benefited from unfair AA.

But when we point out that bias is why 95% of executives are white men, they say that's ridiculous to suggest bias is at play.

They can't even see how racist their thinking is. They believe there are good reasons why women and minorities are under represented and only see bad reasons when they do see a black or woman break through the class ceiling.

Or maybe most businesses are started by white men lol call me crazy ha

Who started the Fortune 500 companies? None of the CEO's at any of the fortune 500 companies started those companies. They were selected by a board of directors or the previous CEO. All of whom are/were white.

So they are bias. They pick people who are like them. Maybe you didn't learn this stuff in college.

The first female millionaire was a black women in the 1920’s.. America is not a racist country.. go away troll

 

[sealybobo]

You don't seem to want to fault poor blacks for anything. Well I don't make these excuses for poor whites. Why are there poor whites? Yes it's because the system is rigged. Yes it's because there isn't enough economic opportunity for stupid blue collar whites. I admit it's not all their fault. But then I tell them not to have kids they can't afford, take school more seriously and get rid of that hick accent. And if you live in a shit hole move.

America aint gonna clean up the ghettos. Either you guys do it yourselves or move.

And according to you ghettos are low crime places???? I'm calling bullshit.

I don't blame poor blacks for conditions that are the root cause of the problem.

Everything you say is the problem isn't. Blacks are in the ghettos working while their money sits in backs and used for loans to develop white communities or suburbs. You can call bullshit all you want but whites make up 70 percent of all arrests nationally every year. It's funny, but when I lived in Portland, I'd watch the local news. I would watch multiple crimes happening in the suburbs nightly. Rapes, assaults battery's, robberies, vandalism, and sometimes murder. There were suburban gang fights, all of it. Then you get a killing on the NE side with 2-3 days of coverage until they got to show clips from the funeral then back to normal coverage.

When I left Portland and moved to KC, I saw the same type of coverage. There was all kinds of crimes going on in the burbs. No outrage, why their communities were all safer than the ghetto even though the local news showed a different picture.

So I did something crazy with some friends. We stood for 24 hours in what was then one of the supposed top 10 unsafe hoods in this country. The media even covered some of it. Nothing happened, it wasn't even close. I've walked late nights in hoods in KC, Portland, DC, New Orleans, Dallas, LA, and St. Louis during my life, never any harm. My best friend went to visit his daughter in Detroit. At the time he had a brand new car. He went clubbing in the hood and got so drunk he passed out in his car. He woke up in the morning and drove to his daughters house. He and his car unscratched. So you call bullshit all you want, but what I see in those places are people trying to survive on little or nothing. And all they need is for you fucked up whites with banks, cash registers, and government coffers filled with our money in them to use some of it to redevelop these communities utilizing the people in it. Not like Detroit who paid young white entrepreneurs to come in out of the suburbs.

Ditto. I felt safer when I used to travel on business in black neighborhoods after sunset than I did in rural areas of different states. Since you live in the midwest in Kansas City, I'm.sure you've heard of sundown towns like Cape Girardeau and Sikeston Missouri.

I would not be in either of those places for a minute after nightfall.

But I've been on the streets of Oakland, Fillmore, parts of Brooklyn, Harlem, Philadelphia, and the southside of Chicago very late at night and never had a problem.

Exactly. Whites here don't seem to get the fact they alone don't get to define a bad community. I'd feel safer in Detroit than every one of these all white "low crime" rural towns that surround where I live now.

There are encouraging signs: There’s a growing number of states and cities that prohibit questions about salary history on job applications, as a potential solution to wage discrimination. Nationally, there are increasing numbers of minorities in the managerial pipeline, greater public awareness of income inequality, and the emergence of the #MeToo movement. Many people, especially Millennials, agree and believe that black lives matter. And more corporations are acknowledging that they need to do better on diversity.

To continue to improve, we need identify corporate leaders in diversity. The Center for Employment Equity at UMass Amherst is one group that is making EEOC data easily accessible to the general public. Companies can (and should) examine their own industry performance and look for ways to improve.

Because despite the expansive growth of the U.S. economy over the past 40 years, diversity hiring has not kept pace. Bottom line, if racial and gender minorities think they perceive limited advancement opportunities — the so-called “glass ceiling” — they are right.

We already know this sealybobo.

I may be a white ignorant prejudice bigot but I'm not a racist. I too hope one day we achieve Dr. MLK's dream of equality and fairness. Why wouldn't I? The only reason I would be against those things is if I thought I couldn't compete or because I want an unfair advantage.

Even on TV we can tell there is bias against black people. Do white people see blacks as leaders? Lets use Star Trek as an example. Are whites ever going to let blacks lead? Apparently not.

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[Jitss617]

Are you saying people got jobs based off of skin color not merit ??

What I was pointed out to you is that white males as a demographic, are overrepresented in corporate positions and political positions. And in the process, I also corrected your erroneous statement that whites represent 70% of the population.

As far as whether it is because of skin color, or not, is not for me to say.

But the prevailing belief among most here is that if a black person is by chance in a position of decision making or authority, that it must be based on an AA quota which prevented a more qualified white person from being successful.

So you think a business will hire a ceo based on skin color not how much money they can make the business?? Interesting.. god I hope you don’t run a business haha

No, we think a business will hire a black ceo because they see that person is qualified to run the business.

It's just a bonus that they'll be able to show off their diversity pick. Seeing as how there are so few black CEO's it'll look great for their public image and PR.

That wasn’t my question.. don’t deflect

The CEO of my brothers former company is an idiot. Why they picked him is any ones guess. But he will try and fail and be replaced by another white male. Who may or may not succeed.

We don't have enough examples of blacks who have been given the chance and failed.

In fact, usually a black is put in charge when the companies is already failing. Then when they dont' turn it around they say "see he failed". Well what about the white CEO before him who put him in that position?

Hell look at how you guys said Obama failed to get us out of Bush's recession. Then when you couldn't say he failed you said, "it took too long".

We know you would judge the black ceo harder because we saw you do it to Obama.

Does that answer your question?

So you are saying they are Turing down black prospects who would make them more money?! Lol ok evidence??

 

[Jitss617]

Lol WE MAKE UP 70% of the population.. you are so dumb!

You are incorrect. The white population in America is roughly 67% of the entire population, which includes females.

After white Hispanics are subtracted that number is closer to about 61%.


Non hispanic white MALES as a group are approximately 30% of the population, yet hold over 70% of corporate positions and 65% of political offices.
That was the point that you missed.


https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...graphics-most-politicians-are-still-white-men

Are you saying people got jobs based off of skin color not merit ??

What I was pointed out to you is that white males as a demographic, are overrepresented in corporate positions and political positions. And in the process, I also corrected your erroneous statement that whites represent 70% of the population.

As far as whether it is because of skin color, or not, is not for me to say.

But the prevailing belief among most here is that if a black person is by chance in a position of decision making or authority, that it must be based on an AA quota which prevented a more qualified white person from being successful.

So you think a business will hire a ceo based on skin color not how much money they can make the business?? Interesting.. god I hope you don’t run a business haha

You said that I think that. I did not say that.


I'm retired from running multiple businesses. And those that I hired and worked with were educated thinkers.

You would not have been considered to be employable.

We’re you asked to retire?? Lol

 

[sealybobo]

Are you saying people got jobs based off of skin color not merit ??

What I was pointed out to you is that white males as a demographic, are overrepresented in corporate positions and political positions. And in the process, I also corrected your erroneous statement that whites represent 70% of the population.

As far as whether it is because of skin color, or not, is not for me to say.

But the prevailing belief among most here is that if a black person is by chance in a position of decision making or authority, that it must be based on an AA quota which prevented a more qualified white person from being successful.

Interesting. So when white men see a woman or black boss, their bias tells them that must be a person who benefited from unfair AA.

But when we point out that bias is why 95% of executives are white men, they say that's ridiculous to suggest bias is at play.

They can't even see how racist their thinking is. They believe there are good reasons why women and minorities are under represented and only see bad reasons when they do see a black or woman break through the class ceiling.

Or maybe most businesses are started by white men lol call me crazy ha

Who started the Fortune 500 companies? None of the CEO's at any of the fortune 500 companies started those companies. They were selected by a board of directors or the previous CEO. All of whom are/were white.

So they are bias. They pick people who are like them. Maybe you didn't learn this stuff in college.

The first female millionaire was a black women in the 1920’s.. America is not a racist country.. go away troll

That fact doesn't prove your conclusion does it?

Doesn't that fact prove that America is also a sexist country?

You know women have benefited more from AA than anyone else?

Oh, and I can show you how America is a racist country by pointing to how in the 1920's we treated poor blacks differently than we treated poor whites. We gave poor whites welfare and we denied equally poor blacks welfare.

Your little history fact while interesting proves nothing. Troll. LOL. Ha! You sir are a white loser in MA. And a angry conservative. We better watch out for you. Rampage candidate who thinks minorities are why you are a loser.

 

[sealybobo]

What I was pointed out to you is that white males as a demographic, are overrepresented in corporate positions and political positions. And in the process, I also corrected your erroneous statement that whites represent 70% of the population.

As far as whether it is because of skin color, or not, is not for me to say.

But the prevailing belief among most here is that if a black person is by chance in a position of decision making or authority, that it must be based on an AA quota which prevented a more qualified white person from being successful.

So you think a business will hire a ceo based on skin color not how much money they can make the business?? Interesting.. god I hope you don’t run a business haha

No, we think a business will hire a black ceo because they see that person is qualified to run the business.

It's just a bonus that they'll be able to show off their diversity pick. Seeing as how there are so few black CEO's it'll look great for their public image and PR.

That wasn’t my question.. don’t deflect

The CEO of my brothers former company is an idiot. Why they picked him is any ones guess. But he will try and fail and be replaced by another white male. Who may or may not succeed.

We don't have enough examples of blacks who have been given the chance and failed.

In fact, usually a black is put in charge when the companies is already failing. Then when they dont' turn it around they say "see he failed". Well what about the white CEO before him who put him in that position?

Hell look at how you guys said Obama failed to get us out of Bush's recession. Then when you couldn't say he failed you said, "it took too long".

We know you would judge the black ceo harder because we saw you do it to Obama.

Does that answer your question?

So you are saying they are Turing down black prospects who would make them more money?! Lol ok evidence??

They don't believe the black candidates have what it takes. They have that bias I was talking about.

You choose to ignore a common fact about people. People tend to pick the candidates who remind themselves of themselves. White hiring managers all over America are learning about how this bias affects their decision making. Thank god you'll never be in a position to hire someone.

 

[Jitss617]

You are incorrect. The white population in America is roughly 67% of the entire population, which includes females.

After white Hispanics are subtracted that number is closer to about 61%.


Non hispanic white MALES as a group are approximately 30% of the population, yet hold over 70% of corporate positions and 65% of political offices.
That was the point that you missed.


https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...graphics-most-politicians-are-still-white-men

Are you saying people got jobs based off of skin color not merit ??

What I was pointed out to you is that white males as a demographic, are overrepresented in corporate positions and political positions. And in the process, I also corrected your erroneous statement that whites represent 70% of the population.

As far as whether it is because of skin color, or not, is not for me to say.

But the prevailing belief among most here is that if a black person is by chance in a position of decision making or authority, that it must be based on an AA quota which prevented a more qualified white person from being successful.

Interesting. So when white men see a woman or black boss, their bias tells them that must be a person who benefited from unfair AA.

But when we point out that bias is why 95% of executives are white men, they say that's ridiculous to suggest bias is at play.

They can't even see how racist their thinking is. They believe there are good reasons why women and minorities are under represented and only see bad reasons when they do see a black or woman break through the class ceiling.

Or maybe most businesses are started by white men lol call me crazy ha

You know what's funny about you guys? CEO's come from places like Harvard. They are the best and brightest. So why don't you believe the studies they produce on diversity?


Why Aren’t Black Employees Getting More White-Collar Jobs?

Because of you look at the authors on twitter they are all
Left wing nut jobs so you don’t get full story

 

[Jitss617]

You are incorrect. The white population in America is roughly 67% of the entire population, which includes females.

After white Hispanics are subtracted that number is closer to about 61%.


Non hispanic white MALES as a group are approximately 30% of the population, yet hold over 70% of corporate positions and 65% of political offices.
That was the point that you missed.


https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...graphics-most-politicians-are-still-white-men

Are you saying people got jobs based off of skin color not merit ??

What I was pointed out to you is that white males as a demographic, are overrepresented in corporate positions and political positions. And in the process, I also corrected your erroneous statement that whites represent 70% of the population.

As far as whether it is because of skin color, or not, is not for me to say.

But the prevailing belief among most here is that if a black person is by chance in a position of decision making or authority, that it must be based on an AA quota which prevented a more qualified white person from being successful.

So you think a business will hire a ceo based on skin color not how much money they can make the business?? Interesting.. god I hope you don’t run a business haha

You said that I think that. I did not say that.


I'm retired from running multiple businesses. And those that I hired and worked with were educated thinkers.

You would not have been considered to be employable.

Forty years ago, two companies were known for aggressively recruiting minorities on college campuses: IBM and Xerox, both considered hot tech companies of that era. Decades later, I’ve seen very little progress in minority executive employment. It seems the so called liberal medias focus on the subject have resulted in minimal impact. And yet the ecosystem supporting diversity is quite large — government agencies, formal corporate diversity programs, universities, consultants, and dozens of civil rights advocacy groups. So why has change been so slow?

For one thing, political rhetoric has created public tumult about the drivers of middle-class decline: globalization, technology, and immigration’s impact on U.S. jobs. Another recurring theme is an allegedly unlevel playing field for white males created by public- and private-sector diversity programs (affirmative action) to attract and promote a more diverse workforce. And the courts have weighed in on “reverse discrimination” cases, slowing the growth of diversity in some universities and companies.

As a longtime African-American executive who’s skeptical of reverse-discrimination claims, I wanted to find answers to a few questions: What exactly do black employment numbers look like today? How are blacks faring in promotions? Are blacks’ gains in executive and management ranks keeping pace with gains in the professional workforce?

The Numbers

Detailed analysis of employment numbers can help us understand racial and gender income inequality in America. A review of white-collar employment data from the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission reveals serious gaps in income, promotional opportunities, and advancement for minorities and women of all races.

Why Aren’t Black Employees Getting More White-Collar Jobs? | BCNN1 - Black Christian News Network

A married college educated black couple makes more the a married college educated white couple..

Nigerians make more then whites go away troll

 

[Jitss617]

What I was pointed out to you is that white males as a demographic, are overrepresented in corporate positions and political positions. And in the process, I also corrected your erroneous statement that whites represent 70% of the population.

As far as whether it is because of skin color, or not, is not for me to say.

But the prevailing belief among most here is that if a black person is by chance in a position of decision making or authority, that it must be based on an AA quota which prevented a more qualified white person from being successful.

Interesting. So when white men see a woman or black boss, their bias tells them that must be a person who benefited from unfair AA.

But when we point out that bias is why 95% of executives are white men, they say that's ridiculous to suggest bias is at play.

They can't even see how racist their thinking is. They believe there are good reasons why women and minorities are under represented and only see bad reasons when they do see a black or woman break through the class ceiling.

Or maybe most businesses are started by white men lol call me crazy ha

Who started the Fortune 500 companies? None of the CEO's at any of the fortune 500 companies started those companies. They were selected by a board of directors or the previous CEO. All of whom are/were white.

So they are bias. They pick people who are like them. Maybe you didn't learn this stuff in college.

The first female millionaire was a black women in the 1920’s.. America is not a racist country.. go away troll

That fact doesn't prove your conclusion does it?

Doesn't that fact prove that America is also a sexist country?

You know women have benefited more from AA than anyone else?

Oh, and I can show you how America is a racist country by pointing to how in the 1920's we treated poor blacks differently than we treated poor whites. We gave poor whites welfare and we denied equally poor blacks welfare.

Your little history fact while interesting proves nothing. Troll. LOL. Ha! You sir are a white loser in MA. And a angry conservative. We better watch out for you. Rampage candidate who thinks minorities are why you are a loser.

lol you are clue less

 

[Jitss617]

So you think a business will hire a ceo based on skin color not how much money they can make the business?? Interesting.. god I hope you don’t run a business haha

No, we think a business will hire a black ceo because they see that person is qualified to run the business.

It's just a bonus that they'll be able to show off their diversity pick. Seeing as how there are so few black CEO's it'll look great for their public image and PR.

That wasn’t my question.. don’t deflect

The CEO of my brothers former company is an idiot. Why they picked him is any ones guess. But he will try and fail and be replaced by another white male. Who may or may not succeed.

We don't have enough examples of blacks who have been given the chance and failed.

In fact, usually a black is put in charge when the companies is already failing. Then when they dont' turn it around they say "see he failed". Well what about the white CEO before him who put him in that position?

Hell look at how you guys said Obama failed to get us out of Bush's recession. Then when you couldn't say he failed you said, "it took too long".

We know you would judge the black ceo harder because we saw you do it to Obama.

Does that answer your question?

So you are saying they are Turing down black prospects who would make them more money?! Lol ok evidence??

They don't believe the black candidates have what it takes. They have that bias I was talking about.

You choose to ignore a common fact about people. People tend to pick the candidates who remind themselves of themselves. White hiring managers all over America are learning about how this bias affects their decision making. Thank god you'll never be in a position to hire someone.

Who said they don’t have what it takes?? Quote??

 

[IM2]

I don't blame poor blacks for conditions that are the root cause of the problem.

Everything you say is the problem isn't. Blacks are in the ghettos working while their money sits in backs and used for loans to develop white communities or suburbs. You can call bullshit all you want but whites make up 70 percent of all arrests nationally every year. It's funny, but when I lived in Portland, I'd watch the local news. I would watch multiple crimes happening in the suburbs nightly. Rapes, assaults battery's, robberies, vandalism, and sometimes murder. There were suburban gang fights, all of it. Then you get a killing on the NE side with 2-3 days of coverage until they got to show clips from the funeral then back to normal coverage.

When I left Portland and moved to KC, I saw the same type of coverage. There was all kinds of crimes going on in the burbs. No outrage, why their communities were all safer than the ghetto even though the local news showed a different picture.

So I did something crazy with some friends. We stood for 24 hours in what was then one of the supposed top 10 unsafe hoods in this country. The media even covered some of it. Nothing happened, it wasn't even close. I've walked late nights in hoods in KC, Portland, DC, New Orleans, Dallas, LA, and St. Louis during my life, never any harm. My best friend went to visit his daughter in Detroit. At the time he had a brand new car. He went clubbing in the hood and got so drunk he passed out in his car. He woke up in the morning and drove to his daughters house. He and his car unscratched. So you call bullshit all you want, but what I see in those places are people trying to survive on little or nothing. And all they need is for you fucked up whites with banks, cash registers, and government coffers filled with our money in them to use some of it to redevelop these communities utilizing the people in it. Not like Detroit who paid young white entrepreneurs to come in out of the suburbs.

Ditto. I felt safer when I used to travel on business in black neighborhoods after sunset than I did in rural areas of different states. Since you live in the midwest in Kansas City, I'm.sure you've heard of sundown towns like Cape Girardeau and Sikeston Missouri.

I would not be in either of those places for a minute after nightfall.

But I've been on the streets of Oakland, Fillmore, parts of Brooklyn, Harlem, Philadelphia, and the southside of Chicago very late at night and never had a problem.

Exactly. Whites here don't seem to get the fact they alone don't get to define a bad community. I'd feel safer in Detroit than every one of these all white "low crime" rural towns that surround where I live now.

There are encouraging signs: There’s a growing number of states and cities that prohibit questions about salary history on job applications, as a potential solution to wage discrimination. Nationally, there are increasing numbers of minorities in the managerial pipeline, greater public awareness of income inequality, and the emergence of the #MeToo movement. Many people, especially Millennials, agree and believe that black lives matter. And more corporations are acknowledging that they need to do better on diversity.

To continue to improve, we need identify corporate leaders in diversity. The Center for Employment Equity at UMass Amherst is one group that is making EEOC data easily accessible to the general public. Companies can (and should) examine their own industry performance and look for ways to improve.

Because despite the expansive growth of the U.S. economy over the past 40 years, diversity hiring has not kept pace. Bottom line, if racial and gender minorities think they perceive limited advancement opportunities — the so-called “glass ceiling” — they are right.

We already know this sealybobo.

I may be a white ignorant prejudice bigot but I'm not a racist. I too hope one day we achieve Dr. MLK's dream of equality and fairness. Why wouldn't I? The only reason I would be against those things is if I thought I couldn't compete or because I want an unfair advantage.

Even on TV we can tell there is bias against black people. Do white people see blacks as leaders? Lets use Star Trek as an example. Are whites ever going to let blacks lead? Apparently not.

nope

nope

nope

nope

nope nope

You're really not any of those things. But you are not black. Therefore you should stop trying to tell blacks your age how things are for blacks. There are some things we happen to know about being black that you just might not.

 

[IM2]

What I was pointed out to you is that white males as a demographic, are overrepresented in corporate positions and political positions. And in the process, I also corrected your erroneous statement that whites represent 70% of the population.

As far as whether it is because of skin color, or not, is not for me to say.

But the prevailing belief among most here is that if a black person is by chance in a position of decision making or authority, that it must be based on an AA quota which prevented a more qualified white person from being successful.

So you think a business will hire a ceo based on skin color not how much money they can make the business?? Interesting.. god I hope you don’t run a business haha

No, we think a business will hire a black ceo because they see that person is qualified to run the business.

It's just a bonus that they'll be able to show off their diversity pick. Seeing as how there are so few black CEO's it'll look great for their public image and PR.

That wasn’t my question.. don’t deflect

The CEO of my brothers former company is an idiot. Why they picked him is any ones guess. But he will try and fail and be replaced by another white male. Who may or may not succeed.

We don't have enough examples of blacks who have been given the chance and failed.

In fact, usually a black is put in charge when the companies is already failing. Then when they dont' turn it around they say "see he failed". Well what about the white CEO before him who put him in that position?

Hell look at how you guys said Obama failed to get us out of Bush's recession. Then when you couldn't say he failed you said, "it took too long".

We know you would judge the black ceo harder because we saw you do it to Obama.

Does that answer your question?

So you are saying they are Turing down black prospects who would make them more money?! Lol ok evidence??

It happens every day.

 

[IM2]

Are you saying people got jobs based off of skin color not merit ??

What I was pointed out to you is that white males as a demographic, are overrepresented in corporate positions and political positions. And in the process, I also corrected your erroneous statement that whites represent 70% of the population.

As far as whether it is because of skin color, or not, is not for me to say.

But the prevailing belief among most here is that if a black person is by chance in a position of decision making or authority, that it must be based on an AA quota which prevented a more qualified white person from being successful.

So you think a business will hire a ceo based on skin color not how much money they can make the business?? Interesting.. god I hope you don’t run a business haha

You said that I think that. I did not say that.


I'm retired from running multiple businesses. And those that I hired and worked with were educated thinkers.

You would not have been considered to be employable.

Forty years ago, two companies were known for aggressively recruiting minorities on college campuses: IBM and Xerox, both considered hot tech companies of that era. Decades later, I’ve seen very little progress in minority executive employment. It seems the so called liberal medias focus on the subject have resulted in minimal impact. And yet the ecosystem supporting diversity is quite large — government agencies, formal corporate diversity programs, universities, consultants, and dozens of civil rights advocacy groups. So why has change been so slow?

For one thing, political rhetoric has created public tumult about the drivers of middle-class decline: globalization, technology, and immigration’s impact on U.S. jobs. Another recurring theme is an allegedly unlevel playing field for white males created by public- and private-sector diversity programs (affirmative action) to attract and promote a more diverse workforce. And the courts have weighed in on “reverse discrimination” cases, slowing the growth of diversity in some universities and companies.

As a longtime African-American executive who’s skeptical of reverse-discrimination claims, I wanted to find answers to a few questions: What exactly do black employment numbers look like today? How are blacks faring in promotions? Are blacks’ gains in executive and management ranks keeping pace with gains in the professional workforce?

The Numbers

Detailed analysis of employment numbers can help us understand racial and gender income inequality in America. A review of white-collar employment data from the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission reveals serious gaps in income, promotional opportunities, and advancement for minorities and women of all races.

Why Aren’t Black Employees Getting More White-Collar Jobs? | BCNN1 - Black Christian News Network

A married college educated black couple makes more the a married college educated white couple..

Nigerians make more then whites go away troll

You make all these comments with no facts but you demand facts from everybody else.

 

[Moonglow]

What I was pointed out to you is that white males as a demographic, are overrepresented in corporate positions and political positions. And in the process, I also corrected your erroneous statement that whites represent 70% of the population.

As far as whether it is because of skin color, or not, is not for me to say.

But the prevailing belief among most here is that if a black person is by chance in a position of decision making or authority, that it must be based on an AA quota which prevented a more qualified white person from being successful.

Interesting. So when white men see a woman or black boss, their bias tells them that must be a person who benefited from unfair AA.

But when we point out that bias is why 95% of executives are white men, they say that's ridiculous to suggest bias is at play.

They can't even see how racist their thinking is. They believe there are good reasons why women and minorities are under represented and only see bad reasons when they do see a black or woman break through the class ceiling.

Or maybe most businesses are started by white men lol call me crazy ha

Who started the Fortune 500 companies? None of the CEO's at any of the fortune 500 companies started those companies. They were selected by a board of directors or the previous CEO. All of whom are/were white.

So they are bias. They pick people who are like them. Maybe you didn't learn this stuff in college.

Not only white but rich..So that narrows the field a little more..

The Ascend Foundation’s analysis shows that white men (with an EPI of 1.81) are by far the most-represented group in management; executive parity is a ratio of 1.0. Following them are Hispanic men (1.07), white women (0.65), black men (0.63), Asian men (0.56), Hispanic women (0.49), black women (0.30), and Asian women (0.24).

There are disturbing trends in economic mobility for African-Americans nationwide. White men continue to dominate executive and managerial roles at companies with more than 100 employees. Small businesses, those with fewer than 100 employees, are not included in the EEOC database.

I know the feeling, I had to start my own company to be able to prove I could since I was not getting those positions I wanted while employed.