‘Democrats Are In A Box’: Graham Says Pelosi’s Impeachment Push Is Backfiring In Senate

[bendog]

‘Democrats Are In A Box’:
Graham Says Pelosi’s Impeachment Push Is Backfiring In Senate​

‘Democrats Are In A Box': Graham Says Pelosi's Impeachment Push Is Backfiring In Senate - Conservative Brief
27 Jan 2021 ~~ By Marin Walsh

Even though some establishment Republicans have sided with Democrats in their support of an impeachment effort against former President Donald Trump, plenty of other GOP leaders are vehemently opposed to the idea.
In fact, GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham recently told Fox News host Sean Hannity that even some Senate Democrats are souring on the idea based on its perceived political downsides to the effort pushed by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
“There’s more than a handful of Democrats praying that [President] Joe Biden will get on the phone and call [Senate Democratic Leader Chuck] Schumer and say it’s over because they understand this is going to blow up in their face politically,” he said.
~Snip~
As a result, Graham predicted that the Senate will “have an overwhelmingly Republican vote that this second impeachment of Donald Trump in unconstitutional.”

Lindsey Graham Says Senate Won’t Impeach Trump - AIR.TV​

~Snip~
While Graham praised McConnell as a “good leader” and “great street fighter,” he said that the Republican leader is “giving some legitimacy to this impeachment process,” which he said he believes is “wrong.”


Comment:
Hmm....., What 'foresight' in the House. Every Democrat and Rino with defective brain synapse in the last month knew this would die in the Senate. Never mind it being unconstitutional ... the left hates said document.
The Progressive Marxist/DSA Democrats in their insane hate for Trump wanted impeachment. They got impeachment and unconstititionally so.
The elephant in the room is, Democrats and Rino's don't have the courage of their convictions. If that handful stood up and told leadership that they were opposed, rather than being given cover, Americans would have respect for them.
Obviously Pogressive Marxist/DSA Democrats led by Pelosi and Schumer will continue on their insane path because they know it’s a distraction from Chona Joey Xi's EOs, pending authoritarian legislation, etc. They know their quisling media will continue to give it positive spin.
A snap impeachment in the highest government building of our nation with NO actual evidence presented and an obvious kangaroo court is a crack in the very foundations of the Republic and Constitutional Law and highly reminiscent of Marxist Russian and Chinese sham trials.

But is it going to die in the Senate?

You may want to look into the impeachment of Justice Archibald and the simple majority in his Senate impeachment trial it took to disqualify him from holding any future office.

A simple majority that the Democrats have.

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However, that would be a violation of the Constution that requires :

• The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court to reside over the impeachment of the president.
• Trump is no longer the president of the United States of America.
• Senator Leahy is far from impartial
• It's required that two thirds of the Senate agree to the impeachment.

Trump's not President. So Justice Roberts isn't required to preside over the impeachment. And isn't. Leahy is. And there's no requirement for impartiality. The entire impeachment process is expressly political.

And its required that 2/3 of the Senate agree to REMOVE a person from office. There is no such requirement for disqualifying a person convicted in an impeachment trial from ever holding public office again.

The Senate has long determined that;

1) The issues of removal from office and the issues of disqualification are divisible. They can be voted on separately.
2) That disqualification requires only a simple majority vote.

The senate has come to this determination twice: once in the impeachment trial of Judge Archibald and again in the impeachment trial of Judge Ritter. Archibald was disqualified with a simple majority vote.they

A majority that the Democrats have.

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I disagree.

it's just not important to people who have lost income. they voted for biden because Trump fuked up on covid.

 

[Polishprince]

While the spineless Republican Senators try to hide behind the FALSE narrative that this impeachment is unconstitutional, all Schumer needs to do is pass a rule that the final vote will be done by secret ballot, and then Trump is screwed.

What's "spineless" about being a Team Player and sticking up for your President.

If the GOP doesn't stay together with the leadership, the party will fall apart.

 

[Skylar]

‘Democrats Are In A Box’:
Graham Says Pelosi’s Impeachment Push Is Backfiring In Senate​

‘Democrats Are In A Box': Graham Says Pelosi's Impeachment Push Is Backfiring In Senate - Conservative Brief
27 Jan 2021 ~~ By Marin Walsh

Even though some establishment Republicans have sided with Democrats in their support of an impeachment effort against former President Donald Trump, plenty of other GOP leaders are vehemently opposed to the idea.
In fact, GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham recently told Fox News host Sean Hannity that even some Senate Democrats are souring on the idea based on its perceived political downsides to the effort pushed by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
“There’s more than a handful of Democrats praying that [President] Joe Biden will get on the phone and call [Senate Democratic Leader Chuck] Schumer and say it’s over because they understand this is going to blow up in their face politically,” he said.
~Snip~
As a result, Graham predicted that the Senate will “have an overwhelmingly Republican vote that this second impeachment of Donald Trump in unconstitutional.”

Lindsey Graham Says Senate Won’t Impeach Trump - AIR.TV​

~Snip~
While Graham praised McConnell as a “good leader” and “great street fighter,” he said that the Republican leader is “giving some legitimacy to this impeachment process,” which he said he believes is “wrong.”


Comment:
Hmm....., What 'foresight' in the House. Every Democrat and Rino with defective brain synapse in the last month knew this would die in the Senate. Never mind it being unconstitutional ... the left hates said document.
The Progressive Marxist/DSA Democrats in their insane hate for Trump wanted impeachment. They got impeachment and unconstititionally so.
The elephant in the room is, Democrats and Rino's don't have the courage of their convictions. If that handful stood up and told leadership that they were opposed, rather than being given cover, Americans would have respect for them.
Obviously Pogressive Marxist/DSA Democrats led by Pelosi and Schumer will continue on their insane path because they know it’s a distraction from Chona Joey Xi's EOs, pending authoritarian legislation, etc. They know their quisling media will continue to give it positive spin.
A snap impeachment in the highest government building of our nation with NO actual evidence presented and an obvious kangaroo court is a crack in the very foundations of the Republic and Constitutional Law and highly reminiscent of Marxist Russian and Chinese sham trials.

But is it going to die in the Senate?

You may want to look into the impeachment of Justice Archibald and the simple majority in his Senate impeachment trial it took to disqualify him from holding any future office.

A simple majority that the Democrats have.

~~~~~~
However, that would be a violation of the Constution that requires :

• The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court to reside over the impeachment of the president.
• Trump is no longer the president of the United States of America.
• Senator Leahy is far from impartial
• It's required that two thirds of the Senate agree to the impeachment.

Trump's not President. So Justice Roberts isn't required to preside over the impeachment. And isn't. Leahy is. And there's no requirement for impartiality. The entire impeachment process is expressly political.

And its required that 2/3 of the Senate agree to REMOVE a person from office. There is no such requirement for disqualifying a person convicted in an impeachment trial from ever holding public office again.

The Senate has long determined that;

1) The issues of removal from office and the issues of disqualification are divisible. They can be voted on separately.
2) That disqualification requires only a simple majority vote.

The senate has come to this determination twice: once in the impeachment trial of Judge Archibald and again in the impeachment trial of Judge Ritter. Archibald was disqualified with a simple majority vote.they

A majority that the Democrats have.

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I disagree.

it's just not important to people who have lost income. they voted for biden because Trump fuked up on covid.

Biden's pushing the COVID funding bills. He'll easily force the republicans to obstruct.....and take the political fall out for the delays.

And Trump lost because he ran on the economy. And the economy was weak.

 

[pknopp]

This will clearly cost the dems votes from Trumptards

In two years you loons will understand what a colossal failure you supposedly elected.

Pure doom

Didn't you predict that Trump was going to win?

Seems your ability to tell us the future needs a little polish.

Pushing impeachment is going to hurt the Dems when so many who voted for them are worried about getting evicted.

Where is the debate on the stimulus package?

I don't think so. Even if it was wildly unpopular, its so early in their terms that other considerations will determine the outcome of the 2022 election.

And I don't think its going to be particularly unpopular.

Nancy has lost seats both times she has been speaker. This won't be her only out of touch moment.

 

[Richard-H]

I see that the prospect of Senators voting by secret ballot has more than a few Trump scum's panties in a tizzy!

It will only take a vote of 50 senators & the VP to make it a secret ballot.

Then the Republican Senators could actually vote their conscience instead of being intimidated by Trump Scum.

That would really get Trump scum's panties in a swirl!!!

Without the ability to intimidate Republican Senators who knows how they may vote!!!

There may even be a 94 to 6 vote for GUILTY!!!!

 

[Richard-H]

all Schumer needs to do is pass a rule that the final vote will be done by secret ballot,

Secret ballots?...you Demtards are wanting to go full out fascist police state. ...

Shades of 1930s Germany!!

No. Juries voting by secret ballot is normal for every other trial in the U.S. - why should an impeachment be different?

The only shades of fascism is the constant threats of violence by Trump scum against anyone that goes against Trump.

The ballots should be secret for the safety of the Senators.

Trump scum can only thank themselves for creating a threatening environment where secret ballot are needed for the Senators to vote their conscience!

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I see that the prospect of Senators voting by secret ballot has more than a few Trump scum's panties in a tizzy!

It will only take a vote of 50 senators & the VP to make it a secret ballot.

Then the Republican Senators could actually vote their conscience instead of being intimidated by Trump Scum.

That would really get Trump scum's panties in a swirl!!!

Without the ability to intimidate Republican Senators who knows how they may vote!!!

There may even be a 94 to 6 vote for GUILTY!!!!

Gawd you're stupid, that destroys transpercy and watching what elected officials do.

Good grief

 

[hadit]

While the spineless Republican Senators try to hide behind the FALSE narrative that this impeachment is unconstitutional, all Schumer needs to do is pass a rule that the final vote will be done by secret ballot, and then Trump is screwed.

Ohhhh secret ballot.....a great Gestapo tactic there America hater.

Hey, nothing could go wrong with a secret ballot, right? Just pick the number of yes votes and no votes you want an no one is the wiser. As long as you don't make the total unanimous one way or the other, everyone will think they were either part of the majority or minority and life goes on. The only way that fails is if the vote is truly unanimous, but that won't happen in this case.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

all Schumer needs to do is pass a rule that the final vote will be done by secret ballot,

Secret ballots?...you Demtards are wanting to go full out fascist police state. ...

Shades of 1930s Germany!!

No. Juries voting by secret ballot is normal for every other trial in the U.S. - why should an impeachment be different?

The only shades of fascism is the constant threats of violence by Trump scum against anyone that goes against Trump.

The ballots should be secret for the safety of the Senators.

Trump scum can only thank themselves for creating a threatening environment where secret ballot are needed for the Senators to vote their conscience!

Gfy, you know it's bs and so does everyone else, clownshoes

 

[hadit]

all Schumer needs to do is pass a rule that the final vote will be done by secret ballot,

Secret ballots?...you Demtards are wanting to go full out fascist police state. ...

Shades of 1930s Germany!!

No. Juries voting by secret ballot is normal for every other trial in the U.S. - why should an impeachment be different?

The only shades of fascism is the constant threats of violence by Trump scum against anyone that goes against Trump.

The ballots should be secret for the safety of the Senators.

Trump scum can only thank themselves for creating a threatening environment where secret ballot are needed for the Senators to vote their conscience!

If they are afraid to cast their vote publicly, they shouldn't be in office.

 

[hadit]

If there is a way to screw something up, Nancy will find it and push it.

That is true. She has a talent for doing that.

 

[Richard-H]

While the spineless Republican Senators try to hide behind the FALSE narrative that this impeachment is unconstitutional, all Schumer needs to do is pass a rule that the final vote will be done by secret ballot, and then Trump is screwed.

What's "spineless" about being a Team Player and sticking up for your President.

If the GOP doesn't stay together with the leadership, the party will fall apart.

When your President incited insurrection, sticking up for him is aiding insurrection.

Besides, Trump is a lying bag of shit and anyone that believes him is a fool!

 

[Richard-H]

all Schumer needs to do is pass a rule that the final vote will be done by secret ballot,

Secret ballots?...you Demtards are wanting to go full out fascist police state. ...

Shades of 1930s Germany!!

No. Juries voting by secret ballot is normal for every other trial in the U.S. - why should an impeachment be different?

The only shades of fascism is the constant threats of violence by Trump scum against anyone that goes against Trump.

The ballots should be secret for the safety of the Senators.

Trump scum can only thank themselves for creating a threatening environment where secret ballot are needed for the Senators to vote their conscience!

If they are afraid to cast their vote publicly, they shouldn't be in office.

I agree - the vast majority of Republican Senators should not be in office.

 

[OldFlame]

Wrong.
Democrats are checking off boxes:

House Check that box
Senate. Check that box
Oval Office. Check that box

The issue is really the House in 22. AOC and defund the police cost them most of the moderate seats they picked up in 18. But Trump's insurrection cannot have been popular. imo Biden is correct that if the dems respond to covid by improving things, then they should be ok.

The entire impeachment thing is batshit stupid on the part of the democrats. They operate under the absolutist view that everything is just as important as everything else. Politically...it isn't.

It might not be as dumb as you think. They can bar Trump from future office with a simple majority vote in the Senate impeachment trial.

You just beat him by 'millions of votes', so why are you worried about him running in the future?? Trump is gone, maybe you should concern yourself with what your leaders are currently doing, destroying thousands of union jobs and the US energy sector?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

all Schumer needs to do is pass a rule that the final vote will be done by secret ballot,

Secret ballots?...you Demtards are wanting to go full out fascist police state. ...

Shades of 1930s Germany!!

No. Juries voting by secret ballot is normal for every other trial in the U.S. - why should an impeachment be different?

The only shades of fascism is the constant threats of violence by Trump scum against anyone that goes against Trump.

The ballots should be secret for the safety of the Senators.

Trump scum can only thank themselves for creating a threatening environment where secret ballot are needed for the Senators to vote their conscience!

That seems like some type of liberal wet dream playing out on fantasy island. The Rs are ignorant and spineless but they know they'd be toast if they tried something like that.

 

[Skylar]

Wrong.
Democrats are checking off boxes:

House Check that box
Senate. Check that box
Oval Office. Check that box

The issue is really the House in 22. AOC and defund the police cost them most of the moderate seats they picked up in 18. But Trump's insurrection cannot have been popular. imo Biden is correct that if the dems respond to covid by improving things, then they should be ok.

The entire impeachment thing is batshit stupid on the part of the democrats. They operate under the absolutist view that everything is just as important as everything else. Politically...it isn't.

It might not be as dumb as you think. They can bar Trump from future office with a simple majority vote in the Senate impeachment trial.

You just beat him by 'millions of votes', so why are you worried about him running in the future?? Trump is gone, maybe you should concern yourself with what your leaders are currently doing, destroying thousands of union jobs and the US energy sector?

Accountability.

 

[Richard-H]

While the spineless Republican Senators try to hide behind the FALSE narrative that this impeachment is unconstitutional, all Schumer needs to do is pass a rule that the final vote will be done by secret ballot, and then Trump is screwed.

Ohhhh secret ballot.....a great Gestapo tactic there America hater.

Hey, nothing could go wrong with a secret ballot, right? Just pick the number of yes votes and no votes you want an no one is the wiser. As long as you don't make the total unanimous one way or the other, everyone will think they were either part of the majority or minority and life goes on. The only way that fails is if the vote is truly unanimous, but that won't happen in this case.

The ballots could be witnessed by the Senate Republican leadership when they're counted. Everyone one of them can be held as proof of the validity of the count.

 

[candycorn]

Wrong.
Democrats are checking off boxes:

House Check that box
Senate. Check that box
Oval Office. Check that box

The issue is really the House in 22. AOC and defund the police cost them most of the moderate seats they picked up in 18. But Trump's insurrection cannot have been popular. imo Biden is correct that if the dems respond to covid by improving things, then they should be ok.

The entire impeachment thing is batshit stupid on the part of the democrats. They operate under the absolutist view that everything is just as important as everything else. Politically...it isn't.

It might not be as dumb as you think. They can bar Trump from future office with a simple majority vote in the Senate impeachment trial.

You just beat him by 'millions of votes', so why are you worried about him running in the future?? Trump is gone, maybe you should concern yourself with what your leaders are currently doing, destroying thousands of union jobs and the US energy sector?

Its a mistake the Democrats are making. I want Trump to be around forever dividing the GOP into smaller and smaller pieces.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

While the spineless Republican Senators try to hide behind the FALSE narrative that this impeachment is unconstitutional, all Schumer needs to do is pass a rule that the final vote will be done by secret ballot, and then Trump is screwed.

Ohhhh secret ballot.....a great Gestapo tactic there America hater.

Hey, nothing could go wrong with a secret ballot, right? Just pick the number of yes votes and no votes you want an no one is the wiser. As long as you don't make the total unanimous one way or the other, everyone will think they were either part of the majority or minority and life goes on. The only way that fails is if the vote is truly unanimous, but that won't happen in this case.

The ballots could be witnessed by the Senate Republican leadership when they're counted. Everyone one of them can be held as proof of the validity of the count.

It's not the way it works.

Did you email Schumer with your idiotic plan?

 

[Skylar]

While the spineless Republican Senators try to hide behind the FALSE narrative that this impeachment is unconstitutional, all Schumer needs to do is pass a rule that the final vote will be done by secret ballot, and then Trump is screwed.

Ohhhh secret ballot.....a great Gestapo tactic there America hater.

Hey, nothing could go wrong with a secret ballot, right? Just pick the number of yes votes and no votes you want an no one is the wiser. As long as you don't make the total unanimous one way or the other, everyone will think they were either part of the majority or minority and life goes on. The only way that fails is if the vote is truly unanimous, but that won't happen in this case.

The ballots could be witnessed by the Senate Republican leadership when they're counted. Everyone one of them can be held as proof of the validity of the count.

It's not the way it works.

Did you email Schumer with your idiotic plan?

It works however the Senate decides it works.