Mac1958
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At least we get to enjoy the experience of watching a devout follower of Donald Trump complain about the incivility of someone else.Thread fail due to ignorant flame baiting.
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At least we get to enjoy the experience of watching a devout follower of Donald Trump complain about the incivility of someone else.Thread fail due to ignorant flame baiting.
Maybe don't use slavers as your example of good and decent people..... just sayin.
Why the need to denigrate them? What's the point of that? History is what it is...What you're doing is trying to apply todays morays to that time...It's a fail on your part...... which does not excuses their foibles, crimes, and shortcomings. Just tell the truthful story.
No, but he does have a place in history. What you and your ilk try to do is erase that which you think offensive, instead of learning from it, therefore you'll be doomed to repeat it.Nothing that exists now would exist without what came before. If things happened differently in the past then they would be different today. You could make the same exact argument about Hitler. Without Hitler and the Nazis we wouldn't have the world we have today. We don't have the state of Israel. We wouldn't have the so called "greatest generation". That doesn't mean we have to celebrate Hitler.
No one is trying to erase history you clown. I'm more than happy to have American children learn that the Founders were slavers, rapists and generally pieces of human shit.No, but he does have a place in history. What you and your ilk try to do is erase that which you think offensive, instead of learning from it, therefore you'll be doomed to repeat it.
Yes, you'd love to teach children that America is an ignoble venture wouldn't you? You piece of shit.No one is trying to erase history you clown. I'm more than happy to have American children learn that the Founders were slavers, rapists and generally pieces of human shit.
Nope. Just the slavers and their ignorant idolaters. Harriet Tubman was just about one of the greatest Americans to ever live. That's the America I celebrate. Not the deplorable mutant slavers.
Are we talking about the past or the present? I made my case for why and how the Americans of the past were ignoble and deplorable and you really have no counter argument. That doesn't mean anything with regards to today.Yes, you'd love to teach children that America is an ignoble venture wouldn't you? You piece of shit.
Biden is responsible for child trafficking today that is putting these children in slave labor here in America.Blacks were the largest of blacks to the trade. EVERY culture (which doesn't make it ok) was involved with it. Blacks practiced it, Arabs still do. American Indians practiced it. Get off your high horse and just shut the eff up.
Biden is responsible for child trafficking today that is putting these children in slave labor here in America.
I'm not suggesting we venerate or idolize African or Asian slavers either. I'm not sure what high horse you're referring to. I don't find not celebrating monsters to be that high of a bar you seem to think it is. For me that seems pretty basic.Blacks were the largest of blacks to the trade. EVERY culture (which doesn't make it ok) was involved with it. Blacks practiced it, Arabs still do. American Indians practiced it. Get off your high horse and just shut the eff up.
A foul lie and an act of extreme MAGA incivility.Hey, you're the one that elected the pedophile. Don't whine to us.
History is: Jefferson was an enslaver, an abuser of Sally Hemings who as a slave could not consent to sexual relations, and a writer of the DoI.Why the need to denigrate them? What's the point of that? History is what it is...What you're doing is trying to apply todays morays to that time...It's a fail on your part...
Ok, and at that time, as wrong as it was, it was within society’s norms. Thank goodness we ended it.History is: Jefferson was an enslaver, an abuser of Sally Hemings who as a slave could not consent to sexual relations, and a writer of the DoI.
Those are truths, j-mac.
The Republicans and the northern Democrats ended it.Ok, and at that time, as wrong as it was, it was within society’s norms. Thank goodness we ended it.
It being normal in early American society to enslave and rape makes a pretty good case for early American society being a basket of deplorables.Ok, and at that time, as wrong as it was, it was within society’s norms. Thank goodness we ended it.
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