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"....want to return to the "good ole' days" of the American healthcare industry prior to Obama--you know, annual double-digit cost increases, rising deductables, no coverage for prior conditions, etc."
Let's see how long it take to prove that you are a dunce:
.Year *NHE Increase
2001 1493
2002 1638 9.7%
2003 1775 8.3%
2004 1901 7.0%
2005 2030 6.7%
2006 2163 6.5%
2007 2298 6.2%
2008 2406 4.6%
2009 2501 3.9%
2010 2600 3.9%
2011 2700 3.8%
*National Health Expenditures, in $ billions.
http://www.cms.gov/Research-Statist...NationalHealthExpendData/Downloads/tables.pdf
So the rate of increase in health care costs declined after Obama was elected. Thanks for admitting your mistake.
Actually, you support one of my suspicions.....I always believed that there is a certain affinity between stupid people and lying....perhaps a necessity in that precinct.
But....it takes a certain kind of liar....a really, really stupid one....to claim something opposite to the data provided.
So...you claim the trend in the data isn't documented to show the Bush administration as its inception?
Speak up, dunce.
Why would you 'nuts be happy about this? An extension of the enrollment period, if necessary, will simply help Obamacare eventually succeed.
You're wishing for something you don't want. As usual.
"....want to return to the "good ole' days" of the American healthcare industry prior to Obama--you know, annual double-digit cost increases, rising deductables, no coverage for prior conditions, etc."
Let's see how long it take to prove that you are a dunce:
.Year *NHE Increase
2001 1493
2002 1638 9.7%
2003 1775 8.3%
2004 1901 7.0%
2005 2030 6.7%
2006 2163 6.5%
2007 2298 6.2%
2008 2406 4.6%
2009 2501 3.9%
2010 2600 3.9%
2011 2700 3.8%
*National Health Expenditures, in $ billions.
http://www.cms.gov/Research-Statist...NationalHealthExpendData/Downloads/tables.pdf
So the rate of increase in health care costs declined after Obama was elected. Thanks for admitting your mistake.
Actually, you support one of my suspicions.....I always believed that there is a certain affinity between stupid people and lying....perhaps a necessity in that precinct.
But....it takes a certain kind of liar....a really, really stupid one....to claim something opposite to the data provided.
So...you claim the trend in the data isn't documented to show the Bush administration as its inception?
Speak up, dunce.
So the rate of increase in health care costs declined after Obama was elected. Thanks for admitting your mistake.
Actually, you support one of my suspicions.....I always believed that there is a certain affinity between stupid people and lying....perhaps a necessity in that precinct.
But....it takes a certain kind of liar....a really, really stupid one....to claim something opposite to the data provided.
So...you claim the trend in the data isn't documented to show the Bush administration as its inception?
Speak up, dunce.
I can see you're uncomfortable with this, PC, so let's move on. The data you posted that showed declining rates of cost increases under the Obama administration must be shocking for you.
Prior to Obama's administration, health care costs rose so lustily that even the lethargic economy under W's administration didn't slow them much.
calling for extending the enrollment period for ObamaCare means "abandoning Obama"???
such idiotic logic.
the system has big problems, we should adjust policy due to actual, technical issues, not purely based on ideology like what the Tea Baggers want to do.
"...not purely based on ideology..."
1. You seem confused.
It is ObamaCare that is based on ideology....
Didn't you know that he concept was a long-standing communist program?
For your edification:
2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine. Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union (1937), and History of Medicine were among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked the American Medical Association because of his conflicting views on socialized medicine."
Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33).
b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life."
Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252
Go forth and sin no more.
Isn't it true that Obamacare is patterned after the Heritage Foundation model introduced in 1989 and then that model was used by Mitt Romney?
Help me out here, there seems to some confusion with your opinion versus historical facts.
No, the administration is on record for much of that as saying they had no idea.
Get your head out of Obama's ass and read a newspaper every now and then.
they had no idea about the deaths in Benghazi?
they had no idea about Fast & Furious?
they had no idea what NSA spying?
now you're just making up stuff.
calling for extending the enrollment period for ObamaCare means "abandoning Obama"???
such idiotic logic.
the system has big problems, we should adjust policy due to actual, technical issues, not purely based on ideology like what the Tea Baggers want to do.
"...not purely based on ideology..."
1. You seem confused.
It is ObamaCare that is based on ideology....
Didn't you know that he concept was a long-standing communist program?
For your edification:
2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine. Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union (1937), and History of Medicine were among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked the American Medical Association because of his conflicting views on socialized medicine."
Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33).
b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life."
Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252
Go forth and sin no more.
Isn't it true that Obamacare is patterned after the Heritage Foundation model introduced in 1989 and then that model was used by Mitt Romney?
Help me out here, there seems to some confusion with your opinion versus historical facts.
Fellow Republican Comrades,
The number of people who have signed up in the state exchanges from Kentucky and Oregon is disturbing. These poor American families are going to start receiving health care for the first time. For god's sake, it might even save lives.
I propose we start a group called "Deny Americans Health Care at all Costs". And then we can send 100s of people to each state to physically block these families from getting health care. However, I am hoping we can destroy their health care without having to physically prevent them from taking advantage of this new law. So we need ideas.
What do we do about all the people who have already signed up? What do we do if the Government fixes the website?
We must prepare for these possibilities. We must prevent struggling American Families from receiving health care. Please provide ideas.
calling for extending the enrollment period for ObamaCare means "abandoning Obama"???
such idiotic logic.
the system has big problems, we should adjust policy due to actual, technical issues, not purely based on ideology like what the Tea Baggers want to do.
"...not purely based on ideology..."
1. You seem confused.
It is ObamaCare that is based on ideology....
Didn't you know that he concept was a long-standing communist program?
For your edification:
2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine. Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union (1937), and History of Medicine were among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked the American Medical Association because of his conflicting views on socialized medicine."
Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33).
b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life."
Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252
Go forth and sin no more.
Isn't it true that Obamacare is patterned after the Heritage Foundation model introduced in 1989 and then that model was used by Mitt Romney?
Help me out here, there seems to some confusion with your opinion versus historical facts.
they had no idea about the deaths in Benghazi?
they had no idea about Fast & Furious?
they had no idea what NSA spying?
now you're just making up stuff.
A- A tragedy- the ambassador should never have been there on 9/11, but that's the kind of guy he was...Phony scandal.
B- The head of ATF in charge of the gunwalking said NEITHER the Bush nor Obama administrations knew about it. Phony BS scandal.
C- Obama did nothing but add congressional and judicial oversight. ANOTHER phony BS Pub scandal.
Like the web site scandal. And the site works better every day, or call the number or the insurers...duh. AND there's plenty of time. March 1.
Good news, Blanko!
This dolt, Hoffstra, may have replaced you as the winner in the 'Dumber Than Asphalt' contest.
Don't celebrate yet: it's neck and neck......
How stupid. This is not a delay. It is an extension of the enrollment period.
What is wrong with your brain?
Why would you 'nuts be happy about this? An extension of the enrollment period, if necessary, will simply help Obamacare eventually succeed.
You're wishing for something you don't want. As usual.
This isn't a proposal to "delay Obamacare." It is a proposal to extend the deadline. PC uses a laser-like Drudge logic to construct halfbaked narratives from news stories.
I like how she and the other right wing knuckle draggers want to return to the "good ole' days" of the American healthcare industry prior to Obama--you know, annual double-digit cost increases, rising deductables, no coverage for prior conditions, etc.
These right wingers have evil intent.
Good news, Blanko!
This dolt, Hoffstra, may have replaced you as the winner in the 'Dumber Than Asphalt' contest.
Don't celebrate yet: it's neck and neck......
Which one of them thinks asphalt is a rectal disease??
Not sure.....but Blanko thinks an innuendo is an Italian suppository
You still engaging in the shinola it's all the Republicans fault? We told you it wasn't ready. How did Obama react? He reacted by making sure Republicans never got any input whatever, nor did he listen to him. Instead he listened to his own band of groupies. The net result was what always happens in a groupthink operation--the goof is ten times worse that it would have been if he had followed the spirit of the Constitution and suffered listening to the truth as understood by both sides.If this goes on, sure, why not...bfd. lol. Just look at the brainwashed hater dupes go nuts- no sense of scale anymore...
"...not purely based on ideology..."
1. You seem confused.
It is ObamaCare that is based on ideology....
Didn't you know that he concept was a long-standing communist program?
For your edification:
2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine. Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union (1937), and History of Medicine were among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked the American Medical Association because of his conflicting views on socialized medicine."
Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33).
b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life."
Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252
Go forth and sin no more.
Isn't it true that Obamacare is patterned after the Heritage Foundation model introduced in 1989 and then that model was used by Mitt Romney?
Help me out here, there seems to some confusion with your opinion versus historical facts.
Romney??
Massachusetts????
1. 50 days to see a doctor in Boston Is Massachusetts universal coverage laws the cause?
June 9, 2009 in Current Events, Health Insurance, Supply of Medical Services, Wait Times
From the USA Today, here are the wait times to see a doctor in the following cities:
Boston: 49.6
Philadelphia: 27
Los Angeles: 24.2
Houston: 23.4
Washington, D.C.: 22.6
San Diego 20.2
Minneapolis: 19.8
Dallas: 19.2
New York: 19.2
Denver: 15.4 days
Miami: 15.4 days
The first thing that jumps out from these numbers is that Boston has by far the longest wait to see a doctor. Is this caused by the universal health coverage enacted in Massachusetts? The answer is maybe. Physician supply adjusts slowly (i.e., it takes a long time to finish med school). On the other hand, Massachusetts decision to increase insurance coverage lead to a spike in the demand for medical services. Thus, universal health care may have caused the run up in wait times,
50 days to see a doctor in Boston?Is Massachusetts? universal coverage laws the cause? « Healthcare Economist
2. "..., insurance premiums have been increasing at nearly double the national average: 7.4 percent in 2007, 8 percent to 12 percent in 2008, and an expected 9 percent increase this year. Health insurance in Massachusetts costs an average of $16,897 for a family of four, compared to a national average of $12,700.
The Massachusetts plan incorporates a system of middle-class subsidies called Commonwealth Care to help pay for insurance for families with incomes up to 300 percent of poverty level ($66,150 for a family of four) and also expanded eligibility for Medicaid.
The costs to the taxpayers are rising, too, and one tax increase has not satisfied the appetite of the hungry plan. The prospect of huge deficits has elicited discussion of cuts in reimbursements to providers and the imposition of a "global budget," which is a euphemism for rationing."
Massachusetts Health Care: A Model Not to Copy
3. More people are seeking care in hospital emergency rooms, and the cost of caring for ER patients has soared 17 percent over two years, despite efforts to direct patients with nonurgent problems to primary care doctors instead, according to new state data. Visits to Massachusetts emergency rooms grew 7 percent between 2005 and 2007, to 2,469,295 visits.
ER visits, costs in Mass. climb - The Boston Globe
Brilliant guy that Obama.
And his supporters?????
Priceless.
