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[JoeB131]

he context of Psalm 137 is the Babylonian captivity.

Point is, they felt the need to PUT THIS IN THE FUCKING BIBLE.

But hey let's look at some other wonderful verses to see how God feels about babies and children (and not fetuses, which aren't babies, actually, which is what I think you were getting at with your "babies" rant.)

Like Abraham, parents should be willing to kill their children for God.

And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and ... offer him there for a burnt offering.... And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son. -- Genesis 22:2,10

God killed all the firstborn children in an entire country.

The LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon.... And there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead. -- Exodus 12:29-30

Sometimes God kills children for misbehaving.

And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. -- 2 Kings 2:23-24

Someday God will force parents eat their own children.

And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat. -- Leviticus 26:29


And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters. -- Deuteronomy 28:53

And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend. -- Jeremiah 19:9



Wow- dude, God really doesn't like kids!!!!

Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15:2-3

And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. Deuteronomy 2:34

And we utterly destroyed them, ... utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. Deuteronomy 3:6


Wow, the Bible God has some fucked up ideas about kids. A lot more fucked up than the notion that a woman shouldn't be pregnant if she doesn't want to be pregnant.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You don't have to wait. We're saying it now and we were saying it before he was nominated and then elected President.

Right... but you nominated him anyway, that's the point. I guess that's a pretty effective strategy... when he fails, you can claim he wasn't a "real conservative". You know, unlike the Bushes,Ford, Nixon, who were all complete fucking disasters and only became "not conservative" after they fucked things up.

Except for Reagan, of course. YOu just ignore what he actually did- raise taxes, run up debts, give amnesty to illegals - and pretend he really was a conservative because things didn't completely fly off the rails before he left.

You leftists are so predictable. You people try to change the subject to Reagan whenever possible. Could you imagine us bringing up Carter all the time?

The only time we bring up Bush not being conservative is when you leftists call him a conservative. And yes, we will do the same with Trump when you call Trump a conservative in the future. Just us pointing out one of your many leftist mistakes.

 

[JoeB131]

You leftists are so predictable. You people try to change the subject to Reagan whenever possible. Could you imagine us bringing up Carter all the time?

I think Reagan is where your party truly started to go wrong. So, yes, he's a good place to talk about.

The only time we bring up Bush not being conservative is when you leftists call him a conservative. And yes, we will do the same with Trump when you call Trump a conservative in the future. Just us pointing out one of your many leftist mistakes.

Well, you see, the problem you guys have is that you define conservatism as 'anything we do that doesn't fuck things up', but everything you do fucks things up. It's why the last three wars and last six recessions all started when you guys are in charge.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

he context of Psalm 137 is the Babylonian captivity.

Point is, they felt the need to PUT THIS IN THE FUCKING BIBLE.

But hey let's look at some other wonderful verses to see how God feels about babies and children (and not fetuses, which aren't babies, actually, which is what I think you were getting at with your "babies" rant.)

Like Abraham, parents should be willing to kill their children for God.

And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and ... offer him there for a burnt offering.... And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son. -- Genesis 22:2,10

God killed all the firstborn children in an entire country.

The LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon.... And there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead. -- Exodus 12:29-30

Sometimes God kills children for misbehaving.

And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. -- 2 Kings 2:23-24

Someday God will force parents eat their own children.

And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat. -- Leviticus 26:29


And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters. -- Deuteronomy 28:53

And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend. -- Jeremiah 19:9



Wow- dude, God really doesn't like kids!!!!

Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15:2-3

And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. Deuteronomy 2:34

And we utterly destroyed them, ... utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. Deuteronomy 3:6


Wow, the Bible God has some fucked up ideas about kids. A lot more fucked up than the notion that a woman shouldn't be pregnant if she doesn't want to be pregnant.

Busy little google guy today, huh Joe? So what you're trying to do is compare God to abortion doctors; enemies of God compared to a woman getting knocked up and having two or three abortions in her lifetime?

Oh yea, you convinced me and everybody here that God approves of women getting abortions. Then you wonder why we mock you when bringing up religion.

Abortion for Incest: "Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor shall the children be put to death for their fathers; a person shall be put to death for his own sin." –Deuteronomy 24:16

Abortion for Rape: Do not "do evil that good may come." –Romans 3:8
"The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son… the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself." –God, Ezekiel 18:20

"For they have committed adultery, and blood is on their hands… and even sacrificed their sons…" –Ezekiel 23:37

…that no man might make his son or his daughter pass through the fire to Molech. –2 Kings 23:10

Crime of Killing the Unborn is Murder: "If men fight, and hurt a woman with child, so that she gives birth prematurely, yet no harm follows, he shall surely be punished accordingly as the woman's husband imposes on him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. But if any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe." –Exodus 21:22-25

Many many more out there Joe. Two can play that game.

 

[ChrisL]

The working class voted Democrat. It was richer white suburbinites who voted for Trump in droves.

"Economic uncertainty?". Horseshit. It was the racism, stupid. But we're not allowed to talk about that, as conservative PC speech codes forbid it.

This is a perfect example of why the dems are out of touch. Everyone is getting TIRED of this bullcrap. Time for a new "hate" angle.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Well, you see, the problem you guys have is that you define conservatism as 'anything we do that doesn't fuck things up', but everything you do fucks things up. It's why the last three wars and last six recessions all started when you guys are in charge.

No, we don't consider that conservatism.

Conservatism is about self-responsibility, putting country before party, and morality before immorality. It's about the belief that hard work should be rewarded, and laziness be allowed to suffer it's own fate. It's about the belief in the Constitution and not Socialism or Communism.

 

[JoeB131]

Abortion for Incest: "Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor shall the children be put to death for their fathers; a person shall be put to death for his own sin." –Deuteronomy 24:16

Abortion for Rape: Do not "do evil that good may come." –Romans 3:8
"The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son… the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself." –God, Ezekiel 18:20

Dude, first of all, in cases of rape and incest, they not only put the rapist to death, they put the woman to death, and if she was pregnant, the fetus as well.

If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city. -- Deuteronomy 22:23-24

Crime of Killing the Unborn is Murder: "If men fight, and hurt a woman with child, so that she gives birth prematurely, yet no harm follows, he shall surely be punished accordingly as the woman's husband imposes on him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. But if any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe." –Exodus 21:22-25

Except that's Not what the Bible verse says, what it actually says-

If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life. --Exodus 21:22-23

In short- cause a miscarriage, pay a fine. If you kill the woman, then you get executed.

Of course, given the state of bronze age medicine, babies never survived premature births.

The reality is, they didn't even count babies in censuses..

And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver. -- Leviticus 27:6

Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them. And Moses numbered them according to the word of the LORD. -- Numbers 3:15-16

 

[SeaGal]

The working class voted Democrat. It was richer white suburbinites who voted for Trump in droves.

"Economic uncertainty?". Horseshit. It was the racism, stupid. But we're not allowed to talk about that, as conservative PC speech codes forbid it.

You are so right! Tell all your friends.

Exactly! The Democrat Party leadership should absolutely stick with 'libeling' half the country as racists, homophobes, misogynists, xenophobes and one of the most endearing, fascists. Loudly and often - it's such a winning strategy.

Been a registered Democrat for a very long time - the first Democrat presidential candidate I voted for was Jimmy Carter, the last Democrat presidential candidate I voted for was Jimmy Carter.

The leadership of that party silenced all the moderate voices - they pride themselves on big-tent diversity, but it houses a diversity only skin deep. Diversity of thought - the only diversity that matters - must be checked at the door.

The nonsense they spout about the evils of the wealthy is a ruse, a diversion, a sleight of hand...with a wink and a nod to their wealthy supporters.

That said - I strongly encourage the Dems to hold their present course - it's been a good thing for the American people.

 

[JoeB131]

Conservatism is about self-responsibility, putting country before party, and morality before immorality.

Except you guys do none of those things. What you do is pretty much the opposite of that.

Right, you preach morality, and then when one of your guys is caught bending a page over a desk or having a hookup in a men's room stall, he's not a "real conservative" anymore.

It's about the belief that hard work should be rewarded, and laziness be allowed to suffer it's own fate.

right, which is why you are fine with trust fund babies living the good life and working folks getting minimum wage... you stupid fuck, you can't even see it when your boss cheats you out of health care.

 

[jc456]

how you figure on the georgia vote? the winner was supposed to be the dem. it was all over the fking news again.

And as the Dem won by a wide margin, what are you complaining about?

You righties here are just making shit up now. You really need to step out of your kook anti-reality bubble and look at the real world. You don't have to, but your snowflake asses will get whupped even harder if you don't.

There were eleven fking republicans, no one was going to fking win. What a dumb ass! And that one democrat was supposed to take 50%? LOL

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

right, which is why you are fine with trust fund babies living the good life and working folks getting minimum wage... you stupid fuck, you can't even see it when your boss cheats you out of health care.

No you stupid fuck, minimum wage workers are around 3% of our workforce. You've been conned once again by your puppet masters that half of this country is making minimum wage, and out of those, most are trying to raise a family on it.

Minimum wage jobs are for kids, stay at home moms, or the elderly just looking for something to do.

Here's what really gets me about you on the left: You've seen millions and millions of American jobs lost to automation and outsourcing; you realize it's because American labor is too expensive, and yet you think you're going to solve something by making American labor even more expensive.

Only a liberal could think like that.

Except you guys do none of those things. What you do is pretty much the opposite of that.

Right, you preach morality, and then when one of your guys is caught bending a page over a desk or having a hookup in a men's room stall, he's not a "real conservative" anymore.

Correct, such people are shunned by the conservatives. That's in stark contrast to how the left treats one of their own like Bill Clinton playing with cigars with a girl young enough to be his daughter. You bow to people like that. You actually make them hero's.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life. --Exodus 21:22-23

Yes, and you stop there. The rest is what I posted from the King James version. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. Read your own links before you post them.

 

[JoeB131]

No you stupid fuck, minimum wage workers are around 3% of our workforce. You've been conned once again by your puppet masters that half of this country is making minimum wage, and out of those, most are trying to raise a family on it.

Nobody should be making minimum wage... and you can't whine about people not working for a living if they can't make a living on it.

Here's what really gets me about you on the left: You've seen millions and millions of American jobs lost to automation and outsourcing; you realize it's because American labor is too expensive, and yet you think you're going to solve something by making American labor even more expensive.

Here's what gets me about fucks like you on the right. You think you can maintain a first world lifestyle with the wealthy driving everyone into the poor house, as you sit home with no health insurance and no one willing ot hire you.

Yes, and you stop there. The rest is what I posted from the King James version. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. Read your own links before you post them.

The rest isn't relevant. They didn't execute guys for accidentally killing fetuses. That was the point. It was only a fine. Because fetuses aren't people.

Correct, such people are shunned by the conservatives. That's in stark contrast to how the left treats one of their own like Bill Clinton playing with cigars with a girl young enough to be his daughter. You bow to people like that. You actually make them hero's.

well, they aren't really shunned, as Newt still is a hero when he was fucking a lobbyist while his sick wife was at home...

But to the point, in 1999, I was one of you Right WIng assholes who said "Impeach Clinton". and then Bush got "elected" (not really). ANd boy, was I happy we were going to have a moral guy back in the White HOuse.

Until he proceeded to fuck up the economy and get us into wars for no good reason.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Nobody should be making minimum wage... and you can't whine about people not working for a living if they can't make a living on it.

So if they can't make a good enough living off of it, don't work at all? What you did is just display what's wrong with having social programs. It makes working an option--not a requirement. As Rush Limbaugh said so many times "If you pay people not to work, don't be surprised when they don't."

Nobody should be making minimum wage? Well if minimum wage were $20.00 an hour, people would still be making minimum wage.

Here's what gets me about fucks like you on the right. You think you can maintain a first world lifestyle with the wealthy driving everyone into the poor house, as you sit home with no health insurance and no one willing ot hire you.

Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall....... well....maybe even a brick wall has the sense to understand what people are saying to it. But you don't. I've explained my situation about a dozen or times already? Yet you keep bringing up over and over again like you didn't read or understand a word. I bet if I explained it to an eight year old, the eight year old would have enough sense to understand and not say the same stupid things over and over again or ask the same dumb questions.

The rest isn't relevant. They didn't execute guys for accidentally killing fetuses. That was the point. It was only a fine. Because fetuses aren't people.

Apparently God considers them people. If by some graciousness by God you do make it into heaven, I bet you won't be spending eternity with many pro-choice people.

well, they aren't really shunned, as Newt still is a hero when he was fucking a lobbyist while his sick wife was at home...

But to the point, in 1999, I was one of you Right WIng assholes who said "Impeach Clinton". and then Bush got "elected" (not really). ANd boy, was I happy we were going to have a moral guy back in the White HOuse.

Until he proceeded to fuck up the economy and get us into wars for no good reason.

Yeah, all Bush's fault. That's what your puppet masters told you so it must be true:

 

[JoeB131]

So if they can't make a good enough living off of it, don't work at all? What you did is just display what's wrong with having social programs. It makes working an option--not a requirement. As Rush Limbaugh said so many times "If you pay people not to work, don't be surprised when they don't."

Right. Is that before or after he fucked the Dominican Rent Boy in the ass?

Here's the thing. Most people will take jobs if you give them jobs. The problem is, your system is based on keeping us all competing for jobs. Or do you think it's just a coincidence unemployment spikes when Republicans are in charge?

It's not a bug, it's a design feature, buddy.

Nobody should be making minimum wage? Well if minimum wage were $20.00 an hour, people would still be making minimum wage.

On $20.00 a hour, people can afford to live an okay life. We'd have to do a few other things, like not let the banks and insurance companies cheat people... but that'd be a good start.

Hey, I think I found your motto, buddy.

Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall....... well....maybe even a brick wall has the sense to understand what people are saying to it. But you don't. I've explained my situation about a dozen or times already? Yet you keep bringing up over and over again like you didn't read or understand a word. I bet if I explained it to an eight year old, the eight year old would have enough sense to understand and not say the same stupid things over and over again or ask the same dumb questions.

Only an 8 year old would buy your whining and excuse making.

Here's the thing. You're a grown man. If your boss isn't doing right by you, you have every right to send out resumes and try to get a better job. One that has health insurance. But you seem to enjoy whining about your lot in life and blaming the black guy... when maybe you should be blaming that guy in the mirror.

Moving on...

Apparently God considers them people. If by some graciousness by God you do make it into heaven, I bet you won't be spending eternity with many pro-choice people.

No, God doesn't exist, and never did. IN fact, even the concept of an afterlife is a relatively new invention. (There's no mention of it in the old testament, they kept the peasants in line by threatening them with worldly curses for not worshiping the sky man enough.)

Given how often the Bible God orders the murder of babies and pregnant women, and never specifically condemns abortion once, if he did exist, this wasn't on his radar.

Fine for causing a miscarriage, and stoning to death for picking up sticks on the Sabbath... that's the priorities of the vengeful deity of the Hebrews...

Yeah, all Bush's fault. That's what your puppet masters told you so it must be true:

Without wasting time on your videos.

1) In 2004, Republicans controlled congress and the white house. If there was really a problem, they could have fixed it. They didn't. Why? Because the Housing Bubble was the only thing keeping Bush's pathetic economy afloat.

2) Fannie and Freddie weren't the problem. The problem was Bear Sterns, and Goldman Sachs, and Chase and all the other banks selling sub-prime mortgages to middle class families and selling them as 'investments" by overstating their value.

3) The Crisis was not caused the by CRA allowing poor people to buy homes. It was caused by middle class idiots buying McMansions they hoped to flip in a few years at a profit. The banks and the real estate industry were all in on it, and they all gave generously to Republicans.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Right. Is that before or after he fucked the Dominican Rent Boy in the ass?

Here's the thing. Most people will take jobs if you give them jobs. The problem is, your system is based on keeping us all competing for jobs. Or do you think it's just a coincidence unemployment spikes when Republicans are in charge?

It's not a bug, it's a design feature, buddy.

Right, because only the President has power.

Our economy started to improve after the Republicans re-took leadership of Congress. The economy started to improve when Republicans took leadership in Congress in the 90's. The Democrats took over Congress in 2006 before DumBama got there.

On $20.00 a hour, people can afford to live an okay life. We'd have to do a few other things, like not let the banks and insurance companies cheat people... but that'd be a good start.

No, they would not be living better because if they made that kind of money, everybody would be making much more money. When inflation finally settles, the $20.00 an hour minimum wage people would find themselves right back where they started because everything else would be so much more expensive. How do you think we priced ourselves out of the world market???? Unions. People made more, but costs kept increasing at the same time.

Only an 8 year old would buy your whining and excuse making.

Here's the thing. You're a grown man. If your boss isn't doing right by you, you have every right to send out resumes and try to get a better job. One that has health insurance. But you seem to enjoy whining about your lot in life and blaming the black guy... when maybe you should be blaming that guy in the mirror.

Moving on...

I blame both, my employer and that big eared commie. If you knew anything about business, you'd realize that the older people you hire, the more expensive your healthcare insurance. Employers try to hire younger people for that reason and women that already had children so the employers insurance company has to endure the huge cost of baby delivering.

If you're an employer and you have two people applying for your job, you take the one that will save you the most money. The 25 year old insurance cost is $250.00 a month. The 55 year olds insurance cost is $550.00. Which one are you going to hire?

No, God doesn't exist, and never did. IN fact, even the concept of an afterlife is a relatively new invention. (There's no mention of it in the old testament, they kept the peasants in line by threatening them with worldly curses for not worshiping the sky man enough.)

Given how often the Bible God orders the murder of babies and pregnant women, and never specifically condemns abortion once, if he did exist, this wasn't on his radar.

Fine for causing a miscarriage, and stoning to death for picking up sticks on the Sabbath... that's the priorities of the vengeful deity of the Hebrews...

God, without Google, you would be totally lost when it comes to religion.

The old Testament mentions heaven constantly. The reason God sent his son (Jesus) to earth was so that people could be forgiven for their sins and get into heaven.

God creates life and God has the right to take life away including babies. Humans do not. Read a thing called the Ten Commandments.

Without wasting time on your videos.

1) In 2004, Republicans controlled congress and the white house. If there was really a problem, they could have fixed it. They didn't. Why? Because the Housing Bubble was the only thing keeping Bush's pathetic economy afloat.

2) Fannie and Freddie weren't the problem. The problem was Bear Sterns, and Goldman Sachs, and Chase and all the other banks selling sub-prime mortgages to middle class families and selling them as 'investments" by overstating their value.

3) The Crisis was not caused the by CRA allowing poor people to buy homes. It was caused by middle class idiots buying McMansions they hoped to flip in a few years at a profit. The banks and the real estate industry were all in on it, and they all gave generously to Republicans.

I think you better waste your time watching those videos, because maybe then you would understand what happened with the housing bubble and collapse.

The regulations for loans changed under Clinton for the specific goal of putting more poor and minorities into their own homes. That's what started it. Bush was no help, but he wasn't the creator of the problem.

Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending

What Fannie and Freddie Knew

Minorities' Home Ownership Booms Under Clinton but Still Lags Whites'

Now I'm sure you won't even go near the articles as you did the videos, but if you ever feel like torturing yourself, read and watch so you can understand the Democrats contribution to the crisis.

 

[JoeB131]

Right, because only the President has power.

Our economy started to improve after the Republicans re-took leadership of Congress. The economy started to improve when Republicans took leadership in Congress in the 90's. The Democrats took over Congress in 2006 before DumBama got there.

Guy, the buck stops at the white house.

Republican Presidents - RECESSIONS
Democrat Presidents - Recovery.

People are wise to it, which is why you need to steal elections because you can't win them.

No, they would not be living better because if they made that kind of money, everybody would be making much more money. When inflation finally settles, the $20.00 an hour minimum wage people would find themselves right back where they started because everything else would be so much more expensive. How do you think we priced ourselves out of the world market???? Unions. People made more, but costs kept increasing at the same time.

Horseshit. Labor is only a small section of what anything costs. YOu guys keep claiming inflation would go up if we increased the Min Wage, but we have, and it doesn't.

God, without Google, you would be totally lost when it comes to religion.

The old Testament mentions heaven constantly. The reason God sent his son (Jesus) to earth was so that people could be forgiven for their sins and get into heaven.

Except you can't cite a point on source that mentions an afterlife.

Again, there's a reason why the Jews don't think Jesus is the son of God. It's because they don't believe in an afterlife and they don't think Jesus was God.

I blame both, my employer and that big eared commie. If you knew anything about business, you'd realize that the older people you hire, the more expensive your healthcare insurance. Employers try to hire younger people for that reason and women that already had children so the employers insurance company has to endure the huge cost of baby delivering.

If you're an employer and you have two people applying for your job, you take the one that will save you the most money. The 25 year old insurance cost is $250.00 a month. The 55 year olds insurance cost is $550.00. Which one are you going to hire?

Well, I'd hire the 55 year old because he has experience and is mature and I know he'll show up to work the next day. (I also don't think your insurance cost is a multiple of your age, but never mind.)

Unfortunately, we're talking about you, and frankly, given you are a loser with anger management problems, I can see why you can't switch jobs.

I think you better waste your time watching those videos, because maybe then you would understand what happened with the housing bubble and collapse.

The regulations for loans changed under Clinton for the specific goal of putting more poor and minorities into their own homes. That's what started it. Bush was no help, but he wasn't the creator of the problem.

Well, I understand exactly what happened.

Bush's cronies didn't do their jobs. It wasn't poor people, it was middle class people watching house flipping shows and thinking they could get rich quick.

 

[JoeB131]

Now I'm sure you won't even go near the articles as you did the videos, but if you ever feel like torturing yourself, read and watch so you can understand the Democrats contribution to the crisis.

The only contribution they had was not blocking Bush from taking the presidency when he stole it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Now I'm sure you won't even go near the articles as you did the videos, but if you ever feel like torturing yourself, read and watch so you can understand the Democrats contribution to the crisis.

The only contribution they had was not blocking Bush from taking the presidency when he stole it.

Again, proved that to be a lie over and over again, yet you can't seem to learn anything.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Guy, the buck stops at the white house.

Republican Presidents - RECESSIONS
Democrat Presidents - Recovery.

People are wise to it, which is why you need to steal elections because you can't win them.

We haven't stole one yet. And if you dare to challenge me, I have all the links to defend my claim right here in my folder.

It's a real shame you don't understand how our government works yet. You don't realize that the President is not king and calls all the shots. It's a group effort to make the country work. In many cases, one can't work without the cooperation of the other such as we've seen during the eight years of DumBama.

Demorats are self-proclaimed enemies of business and corporations. Republicans are pro-business and corporations. That's why when we have a Republican Congress, business gets more influenced to expand or invest in their operations. Democrats run around telling their sheep how they are going to take money away from evil rich people and corporations.

Horseshit. Labor is only a small section of what anything costs. YOu guys keep claiming inflation would go up if we increased the Min Wage, but we have, and it doesn't.

Payroll costs depend on the industry. The percentages range from 10% to 40%. Our minimum wage in the past has been nickels and dimes, hardly enough to have any major impact. But a huge increase in minimum wage would display the actual harm of it.

To prove my point, I use Joe from Chicago. Joe, if $15.00 per hour is a good minimum wage, wouldn't $20.00 an hour be better, and if not, why not? If so, then wouldn't the best minimum wage be $30.00 an hour? If not, why not? If so, why not $40.00 an hour????

If you can honestly answer those questions (not to me, but yourself) then you'll understand why increases in minimum wage promote outsourcing, promote robotics and automation, and reduce jobs.

Except you can't cite a point on source that mentions an afterlife.

Again, there's a reason why the Jews don't think Jesus is the son of God. It's because they don't believe in an afterlife and they don't think Jesus was God.

No, I had a Jewish friend years ago explain his religion to me. His claim was that the Jewish believe upon death, everybody goes to God regardless who they are.

I don't understand. Are you trying to tell me that heaven isn't mentioned in the old testament, or that you don't think heaven is where good people go when they die? Your answer will help me prove you wrong as I repeatedly do.

Well, I'd hire the 55 year old because he has experience and is mature and I know he'll show up to work the next day. (I also don't think your insurance cost is a multiple of your age, but never mind.)

Then maybe you should look into that. And maybe that's why you'd never have a business in your life.

Yes, insurance rates increase with age. Why? Because the likelihood of needing more medical care increases with age. You don't have to take my word for it. If you know the owner of your company, or have a HR department, just ask them. Ask them the difference in rates between insuring a 20 year old and a 50 year old.

In fact I'm aware of customers of ours that purge their older workers to replace them with younger ones primarily for that reason. Large companies in particular can save tens of thousands of dollars every year by that practice.

Well, I understand exactly what happened.

Bush's cronies didn't do their jobs. It wasn't poor people, it was middle class people watching house flipping shows and thinking they could get rich quick.

It was a lot of people. But to lay the blame on Bush alone is pure ignorance to the situation. People getting into investments because of home ownership booming was much later. But it started way before Bush. And it started to put minorities in their own homes.