Democrats, what would be a good trade-off for the $5B?

[rightwinger]

Maybe if Trump offers to resign, Dems will give the $5 billion for a wall

 

[Redfish]

Trump has painted himself into a corner. He staked his campaign on building a wall and making Mexico pay for it

Well, Mexico is not paying and the wall is nowhere to be seen. 2020 is on the horizon and Trump has nothing to show

Dems need something worth more than $5 billion to save Trump

How about solidifying Obamacare ?

under Obama the dems voted and funded the wall, now they oppose it solely to get a 2020 talking point, hypocrisy at its worst.

mexico is already paying for the wall through improved trade deals, US wealth is staying here, not being transferred to mexico.

Obamacare was/is a disaster, there aint no free lunch, someone has to pay and there aren't enough rich to cover all the rest.

Have you ever posted anything which is not an echo from Trump, Hannity, Limbaugh or McConnell?

I post the truth, it doesn't matter that others also state the truth, you should try it sometime, you might sleep better

 

[Redfish]

Maybe if Trump offers to resign, Dems will give the $5 billion for a wall

maybe if Pelosi and schumer offer to resign and the Clintons are put on trial, Trump would agree to accept 4 billion for the wall and border security.

 

[Redfish]

This is politics, after all. Give and take. Or at least that USED to be the rule, when we were sane.

What would be a good trade-off to write that check? Improved DACA status? Amnesty of some kind? Maybe another issue? Climate change funding?
.

trump in prison orange....

for what? give us a list of his crimes. while you're at it give us a list of Hillary's crimes, and comey's, and Lynch's, and Obama's. OK?

 

[Redfish]

In practice Trump will offer nothing in return for his wall

He has seen what happens when he alienated Rush Limbaugh

why should he cave to the lying democrats? by the way, where are the billions that the dems appropriated for the wall under Obama? Where did that money go? Do you know? do you care?

 

[Lesh]

We appropriated 1.3 billion last year for border security and did NOT spend all of it.

2.5 would be MORE than adequate since "wall building" is no longer what we are talking about...and in return Trump needs to reauthorize DACA

 

[Redfish]

We appropriated 1.3 billion last year for border security and did NOT spend all of it.

2.5 would be MORE than adequate since "wall building" is no longer what we are talking about...and in return Trump needs to reauthorize DACA

DACA should be limited to those who have been here for X years (pick a number). No new people ever again. Everyone here illegally whether a border jumper of a visa overstayer, should be deported immediately if DACA is reinstated for a fixed number of those already here. chain migration should be made illegal. Sanctuary cities should be cut off from all federal funding until they are incompliance with all federal immigration laws. DEAL?

 

[joaquinmiller]

Yeah, right. Mexico is paying for the wall. That's why the government is shut down.

Is there anything Trump can say that Trumpkins won't believe?

 

[Lesh]

We appropriated 1.3 billion last year for border security and did NOT spend all of it.

2.5 would be MORE than adequate since "wall building" is no longer what we are talking about...and in return Trump needs to reauthorize DACA

DACA should be limited to those who have been here for X years (pick a number). No new people ever again. Everyone here illegally whether a border jumper of a visa overstayer, should be deported immediately if DACA is reinstated for a fixed number of those already here. chain migration should be made illegal. Sanctuary cities should be cut off from all federal funding until they are incompliance with all federal immigration laws. DEAL?

Yea...no..not gonna fly. We've done that dance before

 

[Redfish]

Yeah, right. Mexico is paying for the wall. That's why the government is shut down.

Is there anything Trump can say that Trumpkins won't believe?

improved trade deals with mexico have resulted in increased federal revenues by virtue of more profitable US companies. Mexico is already paying indirectly for the wall. Trump never said that mexico would cut us a check for the wall, it was always an indirect payment, and its already happened.

please stop lying about this.

 

[Redfish]

We appropriated 1.3 billion last year for border security and did NOT spend all of it.

2.5 would be MORE than adequate since "wall building" is no longer what we are talking about...and in return Trump needs to reauthorize DACA

DACA should be limited to those who have been here for X years (pick a number). No new people ever again. Everyone here illegally whether a border jumper of a visa overstayer, should be deported immediately if DACA is reinstated for a fixed number of those already here. chain migration should be made illegal. Sanctuary cities should be cut off from all federal funding until they are incompliance with all federal immigration laws. DEAL?

Yea...no..not gonna fly. We've done that dance before

then I guess the shut down continues. zero affect on 99.99% of americans.

 

[joaquinmiller]

Yeah, right. Mexico is paying for the wall. That's why the government is shut down.

Is there anything Trump can say that Trumpkins won't believe?

improved trade deals with mexico have resulted in increased federal revenues by virtue of more profitable US companies. Mexico is already paying indirectly for the wall. Trump never said that mexico would cut us a check for the wall, it was always an indirect payment, and its already happened.

please stop lying about this.

Did you unhinge your jaw to swallow that? What a goof! I suspect you wouldn't know a lie if Trump spit it in your face.

 

[Lesh]

then I guess the shut down continues. zero affect on 99.99% of americans.

But pretty devastating for those workers not getting paychecks.

But hey...you got yours so...fuk em huh?

 

[Redfish]

Yeah, right. Mexico is paying for the wall. That's why the government is shut down.

Is there anything Trump can say that Trumpkins won't believe?

improved trade deals with mexico have resulted in increased federal revenues by virtue of more profitable US companies. Mexico is already paying indirectly for the wall. Trump never said that mexico would cut us a check for the wall, it was always an indirect payment, and its already happened.

please stop lying about this.

Did you unhinge your jaw to swallow that? What a goof! I suspect you wouldn't know a lie if Trump spit it in your face.

NAFTA is gone, the USMCA is a much better deal for the US. The positive affects are already happening. the media wont tell you about it, but if you work for any company that exports its products, you know it.

If you want to talk about lies, how about these?

if you like your plan you can keep it
we landed under sniper fire
I never sent classified data on my private server
we talked about golf and grand kids (Lynch has no grand kids and doesn't play golf)
Benghazi was caused by a video

 

[Redfish]

then I guess the shut down continues. zero affect on 99.99% of americans.

But pretty devastating for those workers not getting paychecks.

But hey...you got yours so...fuk em huh?

they will get them when the dems come to the table, they are on a paid vacation now. Why wont the dems fund that border that they approved and funded under Obama? this is not about a wall, its nothing but political bullshit from the dems trying to keep trump from keeping a campaign promise.

 

[AntonToo]

This is politics, after all. Give and take. Or at least that USED to be the rule, when we were sane.

What would be a good trade-off to write that check? Improved DACA status? Amnesty of some kind? Maybe another issue? Climate change funding?
.

Pointless conversation, we've been through this before - Republicans are so hamstrung by the knee jerk base they just generally don't know how to give even an inch.

A Guide to S.744: Understanding the 2013 Senate Immigration Bill

Nevermind $5 Billion, Democrats were signing on for 40 billion dollar, comrehensive wiz-bang border security and visa-overstay reform - NOPE, not good enough to give on even a strict and narrow path to citizenship!

 

[Mac1958]

This is politics, after all. Give and take. Or at least that USED to be the rule, when we were sane.

What would be a good trade-off to write that check? Improved DACA status? Amnesty of some kind? Maybe another issue? Climate change funding?
.

Pointless conversation, we've been through this before - Republicans just generally don't know how to give even an inch.

A Guide to S.744: Understanding the 2013 Senate Immigration Bill

Nevermind $5 Billion, Democrats were signing on for 40 billion dollar, comrehensive wiz-bang border security and visa-overstay reform - NOPE, not good enough to give on even a strict and narrow path to citizenship!

Conversations are only pointless when hardcore partisan ideologues are involved.

Those who can think for themselves are curious and look for constructive communication.
.

 

[AntonToo]

This is politics, after all. Give and take. Or at least that USED to be the rule, when we were sane.

What would be a good trade-off to write that check? Improved DACA status? Amnesty of some kind? Maybe another issue? Climate change funding?
.

Pointless conversation, we've been through this before - Republicans just generally don't know how to give even an inch.

A Guide to S.744: Understanding the 2013 Senate Immigration Bill

Nevermind $5 Billion, Democrats were signing on for 40 billion dollar, comrehensive wiz-bang border security and visa-overstay reform - NOPE, not good enough to give on even a strict and narrow path to citizenship!

Conversations are only pointless when hardcore partisan ideologues are involved.
.

Well thats who runs the Republican party nowadays.

 

[Mac1958]

This is politics, after all. Give and take. Or at least that USED to be the rule, when we were sane.

What would be a good trade-off to write that check? Improved DACA status? Amnesty of some kind? Maybe another issue? Climate change funding?
.

Pointless conversation, we've been through this before - Republicans just generally don't know how to give even an inch.

A Guide to S.744: Understanding the 2013 Senate Immigration Bill

Nevermind $5 Billion, Democrats were signing on for 40 billion dollar, comrehensive wiz-bang border security and visa-overstay reform - NOPE, not good enough to give on even a strict and narrow path to citizenship!

Conversations are only pointless when hardcore partisan ideologues are involved.
.

Well thats who runs the Republican party nowadays.

Yeah, I know, it's all "their" fault. Thanks.
.

 

[Redfish]

This is politics, after all. Give and take. Or at least that USED to be the rule, when we were sane.

What would be a good trade-off to write that check? Improved DACA status? Amnesty of some kind? Maybe another issue? Climate change funding?
.

Pointless conversation, we've been through this before - Republicans just generally don't know how to give even an inch.

A Guide to S.744: Understanding the 2013 Senate Immigration Bill

Nevermind $5 Billion, Democrats were signing on for 40 billion dollar, comrehensive wiz-bang border security and visa-overstay reform - NOPE, not good enough to give on even a strict and narrow path to citizenship!

Conversations are only pointless when hardcore partisan ideologues are involved.
.

Well thats who runs the Republican party nowadays.

Hmmm, when did Pelosi and Schumer become republicans? Did I miss that?