Democrats worship big government

Democrats worship at the alter of Big Government. More government is the left-wing answer to virtually every issue according to the Left, despite clear evidence government was the problem in the first place.

What is the issue with the Left trying to ricicule people for "worshipping the marketplace"?? The markets are one of teh only brightspots of the obama presidency. Do Left-winger not participate in the market? Do they not hold stocks, have 401k accounts, work for corporations? Why do the Left need boogeymen to fear-monger people with? In the history of manking (ooops i said something with "man" in it) who has oppressed people more, corporations or governments?
I always dismiss threads that tie political ideology with worship, faith and theology. I was disappointed in the thread that claimed right wingers 'worshiping' the market. I think that's the cheapest, sleaziest way to score cheap, sleazy political points.

But you said "Hy do the Left need bogeymen to fear-monger people with". Bad grammar and syntax aside, don't you find that Right wingers do the very same thing?


no i dont dummy; but everybody has their yardstick
Oh wow, I may have over estmated you.

You realy thinks Conservatism in America is full of good things, and good people.....and Liberalism in America is the opposite?
 
I'm glad you approve of Obama's success with "the markets".

I know lot's of Democrats. I'm an Eisenhower/Goldwater Republican. I don't know any Democrats that worship at the alter of big government. That is something Republicans, Social Evangelicals, and Tea Partiers constantly say that Democrats do.

There is a long list of Strawman/Bogeyman type things Republicans have been told about Democrats.

None of them are true about any Democrats I know.

here is a list of things Democrats don't spend time thinking about, but Republicans are sure they do:

1. Taking away people's guns
2. Opposing Christmas and Christianity
3. Hating wealthy people.
4. Being in favor of welfare abuse
5. Increasing illegal immigration to increase votes
6. Wanting government to be big
7. In favor of wealth redistribution
8. Hating white people.
9. Prefering Socialism and Communism
10. Favoring restrictions/censorship of the press.

Those are just a few of the things that absolutely NO Democrats I know are in favor of.

But go ahead and let the GOP tell you how Democrats feel. They're quite objective on the matter, and have no reason to be biased about it

Then the democrats you know do not belong in the democratic party.

Because you just did a fine job of defining the liberal agenda the democratic party serves.

and the evidence of this is enormous. he's clearly in denial
Enormous?.....awesome!....can I see just a tiny bit of it?

i doubt it; you're far too brainwashed to actually see
C'mon, just one little tiny example of your enormous pile of evidence.

Just a smidge, tha can't be hard


i already have dummy; and you denied that smudge

im way ahead of you

try to keep up ok?
 
Democrats worship at the alter of Big Government. More government is the left-wing answer to virtually every issue according to the Left, despite clear evidence government was the problem in the first place.

What is the issue with the Left trying to ricicule people for "worshipping the marketplace"?? The markets are one of teh only brightspots of the obama presidency. Do Left-winger not participate in the market? Do they not hold stocks, have 401k accounts, work for corporations? Why do the Left need boogeymen to fear-monger people with? In the history of manking (ooops i said something with "man" in it) who has oppressed people more, corporations or governments?
I always dismiss threads that tie political ideology with worship, faith and theology. I was disappointed in the thread that claimed right wingers 'worshiping' the market. I think that's the cheapest, sleaziest way to score cheap, sleazy political points.

But you said "Hy do the Left need bogeymen to fear-monger people with". Bad grammar and syntax aside, don't you find that Right wingers do the very same thing?


no i dont dummy; but everybody has their yardstick
Oh wow, I may have over estmated you.

You realy thinks Conservatism in America is full of good things, and good people.....and Liberalism in America is the opposite?


at this point in time...................................YES

why???
 
"in areas where guns are a necessity"

who decided that?

you?
No, I don't decide that. The voters and legislators within any given area do.

Are you saing there are no places where guns are a necessity? or are the a necessity everywhere?


i'm saying you arent the one to decide that. YOU said it dummy; what is your method of determining that?
I don't determine that, and why does that matter?

Mabe I don't understand what you're asking?
 
Then the democrats you know do not belong in the democratic party.

Because you just did a fine job of defining the liberal agenda the democratic party serves.

and the evidence of this is enormous. he's clearly in denial
Enormous?.....awesome!....can I see just a tiny bit of it?

i doubt it; you're far too brainwashed to actually see
C'mon, just one little tiny example of your enormous pile of evidence.

Just a smidge, tha can't be hard


i already have dummy; and you denied that smudge

im way ahead of you

try to keep up ok?
You haven't prevented any evidence, just an opinion
 
and the evidence of this is enormous. he's clearly in denial
Enormous?.....awesome!....can I see just a tiny bit of it?

i doubt it; you're far too brainwashed to actually see
C'mon, just one little tiny example of your enormous pile of evidence.

Just a smidge, tha can't be hard


i already have dummy; and you denied that smudge

im way ahead of you

try to keep up ok?
You haven't prevented any evidence, just an opinion


yawn


YES I HAVE; you have ignored it dummy

keep trying though
 
Democrats worship at the alter of Big Government. More government is the left-wing answer to virtually every issue according to the Left, despite clear evidence government was the problem in the first place.

What is the issue with the Left trying to ricicule people for "worshipping the marketplace"?? The markets are one of teh only brightspots of the obama presidency. Do Left-winger not participate in the market? Do they not hold stocks, have 401k accounts, work for corporations? Why do the Left need boogeymen to fear-monger people with? In the history of manking (ooops i said something with "man" in it) who has oppressed people more, corporations or governments?
I always dismiss threads that tie political ideology with worship, faith and theology. I was disappointed in the thread that claimed right wingers 'worshiping' the market. I think that's the cheapest, sleaziest way to score cheap, sleazy political points.

But you said "Hy do the Left need bogeymen to fear-monger people with". Bad grammar and syntax aside, don't you find that Right wingers do the very same thing?


no i dont dummy; but everybody has their yardstick
Oh wow, I may have over estmated you.

You realy thinks Conservatism in America is full of good things, and good people.....and Liberalism in America is the opposite?


at this point in time...................................YES

why???
Because I think most things in life, are a mixture of good and bad, right and wrong, etc.

Some things are not....like everbody sould think beating up old ladies is wrong, and that's not what I mean.

But there are no noble causes in politics.

If you find yourself combative, and calling people dummies, something is wrong. Because when did that becme a good thing?
 
Democrats worship at the alter of Big Government. More government is the left-wing answer to virtually every issue according to the Left, despite clear evidence government was the problem in the first place.

What is the issue with the Left trying to ricicule people for "worshipping the marketplace"?? The markets are one of teh only brightspots of the obama presidency. Do Left-winger not participate in the market? Do they not hold stocks, have 401k accounts, work for corporations? Why do the Left need boogeymen to fear-monger people with? In the history of manking (ooops i said something with "man" in it) who has oppressed people more, corporations or governments?
I'm glad you approve of Obama's success with "the markets".

I know lot's of Democrats. I'm an Eisenhower/Goldwater Republican. I don't know any Democrats that worship at the alter of big government. That is something Republicans, Social Evangelicals, and Tea Partiers constantly say that Democrats do.

There is a long list of Strawman/Bogeyman type things Republicans have been told about Democrats.

None of them are true about any Democrats I know.

here is a list of things Democrats don't spend time thinking about, but Republicans are sure they do:

1. Taking away people's guns
2. Opposing Christmas and Christianity
3. Hating wealthy people.
4. Being in favor of welfare abuse
5. Increasing illegal immigration to increase votes
6. Wanting government to be big
7. In favor of wealth redistribution
8. Hating white people.
9. Prefering Socialism and Communism
10. Favoring restrictions/censorship of the press.

Those are just a few of the things that absolutely NO Democrats I know are in favor of.

But go ahead and let the GOP tell you how Democrats feel. They're quite objective on the matter, and have no reason to be biased about it

Then the democrats you know do not belong in the democratic party.

Because you just did a fine job of defining the liberal agenda the democratic party serves.

and the evidence of this is enormous. he's clearly in denial
Enormous?.....awesome!....can I see just a tiny bit of it?

1.
Court Quashes Some District of Columbia Gun Laws - ABC ...
abcnews.go.com/Politics/.../dc-gun-laws-appeals-court-strikes-33862089
3 days ago - In all, the court upheld six gun laws and struck down four. ... noting that the ruling "did not totally invalidate D.C.'s onerous registration regime," ...


2.
Fighting the Stupid Public Square - tothesource
www.tothesource.org/1_30_2014/1_30_2014.htm
Jan 31, 2014 - This new atheist strategy still seeks a "Naked Public Square," but it gets ... Where courts cannot be convinced to erase all religious symbolism from ... to be mocked and degraded until the only hope of civic peace is to ban ... but the lives of everyone in the U.S. Do a simple cross reference. ... left, links, right
 
Enormous?.....awesome!....can I see just a tiny bit of it?

i doubt it; you're far too brainwashed to actually see
C'mon, just one little tiny example of your enormous pile of evidence.

Just a smidge, tha can't be hard


i already have dummy; and you denied that smudge

im way ahead of you

try to keep up ok?
You haven't prevented any evidence, just an opinion


yawn


YES I HAVE; you have ignored it dummy

keep trying though
Okay, I'm a dummy.

I surrender.
 
Democrats worship at the alter of Big Government. More government is the left-wing answer to virtually every issue according to the Left, despite clear evidence government was the problem in the first place.

What is the issue with the Left trying to ricicule people for "worshipping the marketplace"?? The markets are one of teh only brightspots of the obama presidency. Do Left-winger not participate in the market? Do they not hold stocks, have 401k accounts, work for corporations? Why do the Left need boogeymen to fear-monger people with? In the history of manking (ooops i said something with "man" in it) who has oppressed people more, corporations or governments?
I always dismiss threads that tie political ideology with worship, faith and theology. I was disappointed in the thread that claimed right wingers 'worshiping' the market. I think that's the cheapest, sleaziest way to score cheap, sleazy political points.

But you said "Hy do the Left need bogeymen to fear-monger people with". Bad grammar and syntax aside, don't you find that Right wingers do the very same thing?


no i dont dummy; but everybody has their yardstick
Oh wow, I may have over estmated you.

You realy thinks Conservatism in America is full of good things, and good people.....and Liberalism in America is the opposite?


at this point in time...................................YES

why???
Because I think most things in life, are a mixture of good and bad, right and wrong, etc.

Some things are not....like everbody sould think beating up old ladies is wrong, and that's not what I mean.

But there are no noble causes in politics.

If you find yourself combative, and calling people dummies, something is wrong. Because when did that becme a good thing?

call them as i see them. if you say something stupid i may call you a dummy. the alternative is you are being willfully ignorant? is that better?
 
i doubt it; you're far too brainwashed to actually see
C'mon, just one little tiny example of your enormous pile of evidence.

Just a smidge, tha can't be hard


i already have dummy; and you denied that smudge

im way ahead of you

try to keep up ok?
You haven't prevented any evidence, just an opinion


yawn


YES I HAVE; you have ignored it dummy

keep trying though
Okay, I'm a dummy.

I surrender.


^^^ false modesty

lol
 
virtually everything you are saying no Democrat you know does is endorsed by people from the Left on this very board RIGHT NOW
 
Democrats worship at the alter of Big Government. More government is the left-wing answer to virtually every issue according to the Left, despite clear evidence government was the problem in the first place.

What is the issue with the Left trying to ricicule people for "worshipping the marketplace"?? The markets are one of teh only brightspots of the obama presidency. Do Left-winger not participate in the market? Do they not hold stocks, have 401k accounts, work for corporations? Why do the Left need boogeymen to fear-monger people with? In the history of manking (ooops i said something with "man" in it) who has oppressed people more, corporations or governments?
I'm glad you approve of Obama's success with "the markets".

I know lot's of Democrats. I'm an Eisenhower/Goldwater Republican. I don't know any Democrats that worship at the alter of big government. That is something Republicans, Social Evangelicals, and Tea Partiers constantly say that Democrats do.

There is a long list of Strawman/Bogeyman type things Republicans have been told about Democrats.

None of them are true about any Democrats I know.

here is a list of things Democrats don't spend time thinking about, but Republicans are sure they do:

1. Taking away people's guns
2. Opposing Christmas and Christianity
3. Hating wealthy people.
4. Being in favor of welfare abuse
5. Increasing illegal immigration to increase votes
6. Wanting government to be big
7. In favor of wealth redistribution
8. Hating white people.
9. Prefering Socialism and Communism
10. Favoring restrictions/censorship of the press.

Those are just a few of the things that absolutely NO Democrats I know are in favor of.

But go ahead and let the GOP tell you how Democrats feel. They're quite objective on the matter, and have no reason to be biased about it

Then the democrats you know do not belong in the democratic party.

Because you just did a fine job of defining the liberal agenda the democratic party serves.
Have you ever stopped to consider the notion that what you perceive about Democrats is wrong in some ways?

It's not that far fetched of an idea.

What I find consistantly are people who've been told what you've heard, and get quite angered when asked for examples.

If they do provide examples, it'll include mostly isolated instances.

When pressed aout the examples, I usally get the accusations of being a liberal.

I'm hoping one day that someone will have the patience and reason to complete a conversation about these mythological traits, tha both sides are supposed to have

No one told me anything about liberals, other than liberals themselves.

Your first "myth" is that liberals want to take our guns.

I could not tell you the times that liberals have ridiculed me for supporting the Right to Bear Arms.

NOt, disagreed, ridiculed.

How many times have you heard the meme that those who want the Right to Own a Gun have small dicks?

Is that really a nuanced policy of reasonable gun control? To suggest that anyone who wants a gun has a small dick?
 
Make no mistake, both parties worship big government. It's how they keep their jobs. Republicans only pay lip service to the idea of smaller government...
 
Make no mistake, both parties worship big government. It's how they keep their jobs. Republicans only pay lip service to the idea of smaller government...
Agreed.

The sad thing is partisans on both sides can't see this fundamental truth and are easily propagandized.
 
Democrats worship at the alter of Big Government. More government is the left-wing answer to virtually every issue according to the Left, despite clear evidence government was the problem in the first place.

What is the issue with the Left trying to ricicule people for "worshipping the marketplace"?? The markets are one of teh only brightspots of the obama presidency. Do Left-winger not participate in the market? Do they not hold stocks, have 401k accounts, work for corporations? Why do the Left need boogeymen to fear-monger people with? In the history of manking (ooops i said something with "man" in it) who has oppressed people more, corporations or governments?
I always dismiss threads that tie political ideology with worship, faith and theology. I was disappointed in the thread that claimed right wingers 'worshiping' the market. I think that's the cheapest, sleaziest way to score cheap, sleazy political points.

But you said "Hy do the Left need bogeymen to fear-monger people with". Bad grammar and syntax aside, don't you find that Right wingers do the very same thing?


no i dont dummy; but everybody has their yardstick
Gays, Muslims, Blacks, immigrants. These are all examples of bogeymen for Conservatives.

If you don't see that clearly, you are either in denial or completely intellectually blind.
 
Democrats worship at the alter of Big Government. More government is the left-wing answer to virtually every issue according to the Left, despite clear evidence government was the problem in the first place.

What is the issue with the Left trying to ricicule people for "worshipping the marketplace"?? The markets are one of teh only brightspots of the obama presidency. Do Left-winger not participate in the market? Do they not hold stocks, have 401k accounts, work for corporations? Why do the Left need boogeymen to fear-monger people with? In the history of manking (ooops i said something with "man" in it) who has oppressed people more, corporations or governments?
I always dismiss threads that tie political ideology with worship, faith and theology. I was disappointed in the thread that claimed right wingers 'worshiping' the market. I think that's the cheapest, sleaziest way to score cheap, sleazy political points.

But you said "Hy do the Left need bogeymen to fear-monger people with". Bad grammar and syntax aside, don't you find that Right wingers do the very same thing?


no i dont dummy; but everybody has their yardstick
Gays, Muslims, Blacks, immigrants. These are all examples of bogeymen for Conservatives.

If you don't see that clearly, you are either in denial or completely intellectually blind.


Bogeymen are imaginary creatures.

9-11, Afghanistan, Iraq, were not figments of conservatives imagination.

Neither were the riots in Ferguson.

NOr are the various social ills caused or worsened by high levels of Third World Immigration.
 
Big Government Leaves Our Nation Poor in Money and Spirit
Discovering the root cause of bad goverance.
December 23, 2015
Walter Williams

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American immorality and contempt for liberty lie at the root of most of the political economic problems our nation faces. They explain the fiscal problems we face, such as growing national debt and budget deficits at the federal, state and local levels of government. Our immorality and contempt for liberty are reflected most in our widespread belief that government ought to forcibly use one American to serve the purposes of another American. Let's examine it.

Suppose there is an elderly widow in your neighborhood. She does not have the strength to mow her lawn, clean her windows and perform other household tasks. Plus she does not have the financial means to hire someone to perform them. Here is my question: Would you support a government mandate that forces one of your neighbors to mow the widow's lawn, clean her windows and perform other household tasks? Moreover, if the person so ordered failed to obey the government mandate, would you approve of some sort of sanction, such as a fine, property confiscation or imprisonment? I believe and hope that most of my fellow Americans would find such a mandate repulsive. They would rightfully condemn it as a form of slavery, which can also be described as the forcible use of one person to serve the purposes of another.

Would there be the same condemnation if, instead of forcing one of your neighbors to actually perform the household tasks, your neighbor were forced to fork over $50 of his weekly earnings to the widow? That way, she could hire someone to perform the tasks that she is unable to do. Would that mandate differ from one under which your neighbor is forced to actually perform the household tasks? I'd answer no. Just the mechanism differs for forcibly using one person to serve the purposes of another.

Most Americans would want to help this widow, but they would find anything that openly smacks of servitude or slavery deeply offensive.

...

Big Government Leaves Our Nation Poor in Money and Spirit
 

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