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Do you think this treatment of children reflects poorly on America


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Almost 300 migrant children have been removed from a border patrol facility in Texas after media reports of lawyers describing “appalling” and potentially dangerous conditions, Department of Homeland Security officials told NBC News.

Lawyers who recently visited two Texas facilities holding migrant children described seeing young children and teenagers not being able to shower for days or even weeks, inadequate food, flu outbreaks and prolonged periods of detention.

Yeah, Trump and his swamp creatures are deplorable, in fact they are evil and criminal.
Trump had no say in Nancy Pelosi's refusing to fund any border issues, including and especially humanitarian needs. She's the snake upon whom you should be taking your sanctimonious venom.
 
Almost 300 migrant children have been removed from a border patrol facility in Texas after media reports of lawyers describing “appalling” and potentially dangerous conditions, Department of Homeland Security officials told NBC News.

Lawyers who recently visited two Texas facilities holding migrant children described seeing young children and teenagers not being able to shower for days or even weeks, inadequate food, flu outbreaks and prolonged periods of detention.

Yeah, Trump and his swamp creatures are deplorable, in fact they are evil and criminal.

Idiot. The Border Patrol is not equipped to house people for more than 2 or 3 days. After that they go to a DHS shelter.
ANNNNNNNND why aren't they going to shelters? You may want a life line on this one.

Dumbass. This is a manufactured crisis. The Democrats have deliberately engineered this. They've lured thousands of migrants here specifically to overwhelm our border facilities so they can circumvent our immigration laws. And the more suffering that occurs, the better in their minds. Because they want to build enough public pressure to just release these people. Thanks to Trump. We've finally got a President with the backbone to stand up to this bullshit.
You are right. Democrats deliberately engineered this. It's called the Cloward Piven strategy. Look it up. Then you will know.
Thank you for mentioning the Cloward Piven strategy. I'd never heard of it, and here's what it means for others who like me may never have heard of it:

The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a socialist system of "a guaranteed annual income." (wikipedia)​
 
Almost 300 migrant children have been removed from a border patrol facility in Texas after media reports of lawyers describing “appalling” and potentially dangerous conditions, Department of Homeland Security officials told NBC News.

Lawyers who recently visited two Texas facilities holding migrant children described seeing young children and teenagers not being able to shower for days or even weeks, inadequate food, flu outbreaks and prolonged periods of detention.

Yeah, Trump and his swamp creatures are deplorable, in fact they are evil and criminal.
Trump had no say in Nancy Pelosi's refusing to fund any border issues, including and especially humanitarian needs. She's the snake upon whom you should be taking your sanctimonious venom.
Like a good partisan bigot, he believes everying bad is caused by Republicans, and everythign good is caused by Democrats.
 
Almost 300 migrant children have been removed from a border patrol facility in Texas after media reports of lawyers describing “appalling” and potentially dangerous conditions, Department of Homeland Security officials told NBC News.

Lawyers who recently visited two Texas facilities holding migrant children described seeing young children and teenagers not being able to shower for days or even weeks, inadequate food, flu outbreaks and prolonged periods of detention.

Yeah, Trump and his swamp creatures are deplorable, in fact they are evil and criminal.

Idiot. The Border Patrol is not equipped to house people for more than 2 or 3 days. After that they go to a DHS shelter.
ANNNNNNNND why aren't they going to shelters? You may want a life line on this one.

Dumbass. This is a manufactured crisis. The Democrats have deliberately engineered this. They've lured thousands of migrants here specifically to overwhelm our border facilities so they can circumvent our immigration laws. And the more suffering that occurs, the better in their minds. Because they want to build enough public pressure to just release these people. Thanks to Trump. We've finally got a President with the backbone to stand up to this bullshit.
You are right. Democrats deliberately engineered this. It's called the Cloward Piven strategy. Look it up. Then you will know.
Thank you for mentioning the Cloward Piven strategy. I'd never heard of it, and here's what it means for others who like me may never have heard of it:

The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a socialist system of "a guaranteed annual income." (wikipedia)​

Chilling. That's the kind of thing people blow off for years because it doesn't sound realistic. And then we wake up one day and find out we're right in the middle of it.
 
Almost 300 migrant children have been removed from a border patrol facility in Texas after media reports of lawyers describing “appalling” and potentially dangerous conditions, Department of Homeland Security officials told NBC News.

Lawyers who recently visited two Texas facilities holding migrant children described seeing young children and teenagers not being able to shower for days or even weeks, inadequate food, flu outbreaks and prolonged periods of detention.

Yeah, Trump and his swamp creatures are deplorable, in fact they are evil and criminal.
And then three days later 100 children were brought BACK to this same facility.

It costs $750 per child to do this

WTF....

Nearly all of them have family that could care for them properly at NO COST to the tax payer
 
Lm dvzrj
Trumpists: a group that supports abusing children for political purposes.

There is no other explanation for not treating children well. These people care more for unborn zygotes then they do for children already born and suffering.



I would not go so far.

But I will not be drawn into defending the actions of the parents or the lefties that encourage them to come.
What the right fails to recognize is that this current immigration issue isnt a "pull" problem, it is a "push" problem. They arent being drawn to the US, like the Mexican migrants coming for work, they are being pushed out of Honduras, Guatamala, El Salvador by drought, extreme poverty and violence. So a parent faced with with terrible choices chooses what they think will save their children and you all label them bad parents because they dont want their kids to starve ti death or swallowed by the endemic violence.

Then you have horrible filthy conditions the kids are being kept in under American detention.. Andwhat is the response?

Blame throwing. Not this is unacceptable, lets at keadt fix it for the moment...no. Not taking responsibility but blaming.

Trump administration owns all tbe policies at play. They can choose to improve conditions and have the direct power to do so but they would rathet use the suffering of children for political purposes. Again. And Again.



1. If it was a push problem as you claim, they would stop in Southern Mexico.

2. If we don't find the right people or causes to blame, then we can't actually address the cause of the problem.

3. It is your side that is using the suffering of children for political purposes.

1. The fact thst they dont stop in Mexico, a coybtry also beset by poverty and violence, doesnt make itany less ofa push factor. Many have rekatives in the US.

2. Blame lies with the policies put in place by this administration that turned a border crisis into a humanitarian one. This isnt even close to the high numbers we have had before yet some how huge numbers of kids weren't held in such conditions for such lengths of time before now.

That's probably the crux of it. Trump's admin doesn't want the kids here who even have relatives to take them in.
There's a reason for that, bendog. It's Congress' job to furnish funding for extreme problems that fall to the President in protecting our borders from not "illegal aliens," but drug pushers who are causing 300 American people between the ages of 14-30 to die of their drug sales slipped over here using caravans to conceal their heinous horror. 52 weeks of losing 300 people each = 15,600 annual deaths of Americans. That excludes the aliens who come over here to collaborate with terrorists, create societal chaos, and who forever hate the USA.
 
1. Treat this as a humanitarian crisis - Only require basic registration to get into the country, give them food & shelter or let them go where they want as long as they're registered.

2. Give them job training - especially as Police

3. Invest in Central America countries.

4. Send them back to their home countries and tell them to straighten those countries out.
---------------------------------------------- especially as police lording over Americans eh . You are a BONEHEAD Richard !!

No you dumbass. Train then as police then send them back to their home country where they can work as police there.
------------------------------------- teach them to operate machine guns and throw Grenades and thats enough training . Yeah , you gotta be SPECIFIC Richard .
 
Lm dvzrj
I would not go so far.

But I will not be drawn into defending the actions of the parents or the lefties that encourage them to come.
What the right fails to recognize is that this current immigration issue isnt a "pull" problem, it is a "push" problem. They arent being drawn to the US, like the Mexican migrants coming for work, they are being pushed out of Honduras, Guatamala, El Salvador by drought, extreme poverty and violence. So a parent faced with with terrible choices chooses what they think will save their children and you all label them bad parents because they dont want their kids to starve ti death or swallowed by the endemic violence.

Then you have horrible filthy conditions the kids are being kept in under American detention.. Andwhat is the response?

Blame throwing. Not this is unacceptable, lets at keadt fix it for the moment...no. Not taking responsibility but blaming.

Trump administration owns all tbe policies at play. They can choose to improve conditions and have the direct power to do so but they would rathet use the suffering of children for political purposes. Again. And Again.



1. If it was a push problem as you claim, they would stop in Southern Mexico.

2. If we don't find the right people or causes to blame, then we can't actually address the cause of the problem.

3. It is your side that is using the suffering of children for political purposes.

1. The fact thst they dont stop in Mexico, a coybtry also beset by poverty and violence, doesnt make itany less ofa push factor. Many have rekatives in the US.

2. Blame lies with the policies put in place by this administration that turned a border crisis into a humanitarian one. This isnt even close to the high numbers we have had before yet some how huge numbers of kids weren't held in such conditions for such lengths of time before now.

That's probably the crux of it. Trump's admin doesn't want the kids here who even have relatives to take them in.
There's a reason for that, bendog. It's Congress' job to furnish funding for extreme problems that fall to the President in protecting our borders from not "illegal aliens," but drug pushers who are causing 300 American people between the ages of 14-30 to die of their drug sales slipped over here using caravans to conceal their heinous horror. 52 weeks of losing 300 people each = 15,600 annual deaths of Americans. That excludes the aliens who come over here to collaborate with terrorists, create societal chaos, and who forever hate the USA.

And the gop failed under Obama. You are incorrect to say its "funding." We have a structural problem in amnesty and people coming here. A wall won't do jack shit if kids are just dying on the other side of the wall. And the wall will be a long time coming, if ever.

As discussed previously, it's not news that the solution is keeping the kids from coming. And Trump's delusional and inhumane if he thinks that people here legally shouldn't be able to have their nieces and nephews come here as well. That's what America's always been about, and latinos are just like other people.
 
Almost 300 migrant children have been removed from a border patrol facility in Texas after media reports of lawyers describing “appalling” and potentially dangerous conditions, Department of Homeland Security officials told NBC News.

Lawyers who recently visited two Texas facilities holding migrant children described seeing young children and teenagers not being able to shower for days or even weeks, inadequate food, flu outbreaks and prolonged periods of detention.

Yeah, Trump and his swamp creatures are deplorable, in fact they are evil and criminal.
And then three days later 100 children were brought BACK to this same facility.

It costs $750 per child to do this

WTF....

Nearly all of them have family that could care for them properly at NO COST to the tax payer
You live in a strange mythical universe, Lesh. Your betters do mean stuff, crack the pass-the-buck whip on Trump, who's emptied himself trying to alleviate issues caused by overcrowding border states, then excuse their failure to grant humanitarian funds for aliens and border states alike with a fake narrative that the entire situation of this inflict against America on everybody except themselves.

This Democrat Congress has misered money away rather than seeing how badly these people needed care, a helping hand, and safety from evil coyotes who took advantage of underage women along the way, raping the young boys when girls were all used up with punctured vaginas, illness, and death. They got Soros to fund these creepy caravans in which so much crime took place against innocent minors whose parents in good faith took their last pesos to get their anchor child over the American border so they'd get a free pass.

We have a President who is making sure no foreign invaders take advantage of the American taxpayer, and communist wanna be presidents of the USA doing all they can to make sure there are no funds available to resolve these problems and lend humanitarian aid where needed, but plenty of funding for the asocial serial rapists of children to get them to the border, starving, in need of extreme medical care and certain death for a number of family members along this perilous path that leads to incarceration due to immigration laws that were in place while Democrats had full run of the nation under a corrupt Obama administration. They pocketed more taxpayer money than they gave to the humanitarian needs of victims along the way.

So I'm not buying the phony and false narrative the left is perpetrating through its loyal lying partners in the press that President Trump is responsible for their lack of charity.

This footshoot is almost as emetic as the use of FBI files to play character assassination games against good men and women who oppose their crimes against humanity of withholding humanitarian funds for people on the border and rewarding those who bring them here illegally who perpetrate felonies and felonious assaults against people they charge to bring here.
 
Yeah, Trump and his swamp creatures are deplorable, in fact they are evil and criminal.
Funny how this ha s only bothered you since Trump took office.
Not so much. but the difference was....
Just so we're clear:
- Conditions described by the OP existed when The Obama was President
- You have some excuse for giving The Obama a pass on it.
Groovy - thanks.

In response to your signature line, and your effort to mislead the reader (making you out to be a damn liar) I will post the entire quote, which I still hold to be spot on:

"Personal attacks are the sustenance of fools, and the substance of your attack is nothing more than bias and illogic. But if being foolish make you happy, I very much support your right to enjoy being a fool. Have a nice day."
 
Lm dvzrj
What the right fails to recognize is that this current immigration issue isnt a "pull" problem, it is a "push" problem. They arent being drawn to the US, like the Mexican migrants coming for work, they are being pushed out of Honduras, Guatamala, El Salvador by drought, extreme poverty and violence. So a parent faced with with terrible choices chooses what they think will save their children and you all label them bad parents because they dont want their kids to starve ti death or swallowed by the endemic violence.

Then you have horrible filthy conditions the kids are being kept in under American detention.. Andwhat is the response?

Blame throwing. Not this is unacceptable, lets at keadt fix it for the moment...no. Not taking responsibility but blaming.

Trump administration owns all tbe policies at play. They can choose to improve conditions and have the direct power to do so but they would rathet use the suffering of children for political purposes. Again. And Again.



1. If it was a push problem as you claim, they would stop in Southern Mexico.

2. If we don't find the right people or causes to blame, then we can't actually address the cause of the problem.

3. It is your side that is using the suffering of children for political purposes.

1. The fact thst they dont stop in Mexico, a coybtry also beset by poverty and violence, doesnt make itany less ofa push factor. Many have rekatives in the US.

2. Blame lies with the policies put in place by this administration that turned a border crisis into a humanitarian one. This isnt even close to the high numbers we have had before yet some how huge numbers of kids weren't held in such conditions for such lengths of time before now.

That's probably the crux of it. Trump's admin doesn't want the kids here who even have relatives to take them in.
There's a reason for that, bendog. It's Congress' job to furnish funding for extreme problems that fall to the President in protecting our borders from not "illegal aliens," but drug pushers who are causing 300 American people between the ages of 14-30 to die of their drug sales slipped over here using caravans to conceal their heinous horror. 52 weeks of losing 300 people each = 15,600 annual deaths of Americans. That excludes the aliens who come over here to collaborate with terrorists, create societal chaos, and who forever hate the USA.

And the gop failed under Obama. You are incorrect to say its "funding." We have a structural problem in amnesty and people coming here. A wall won't do jack shit if kids are just dying on the other side of the wall. And the wall will be a long time coming, if ever.

As discussed previously, it's not news that the solution is keeping the kids from coming. And Trump's delusional and inhumane if he thinks that people here legally shouldn't be able to have their nieces and nephews come here as well. That's what America's always been about, and latinos are just like other people.

Dumbass. America is about rule of law. Not radical leftists circumventing the law by luring in mobs by the thousands to overrun our borders. If people want to immigrate here they need to show up at a port of entry with an immigrant visa in hand that they obtained at the US Consulate in their country of origin. That is how it is done.
 
Yeah, Trump and his swamp creatures are deplorable, in fact they are evil and criminal.
Funny how this ha s only bothered you since Trump took office.
Not so much. but the difference was....
Just so we're clear:
- Conditions described by the OP existed when The Obama was President
- You have some excuse for giving The Obama a pass on it.
Groovy - thanks.
In response to your signature line, and your effort to mislead the reader (making you out to be a damn liar) I will post the entire quote, which I still hold to be spot on:
I'm sorry you don't like the fact you are, as judged by your own criteria, a foolish child - but there's nothing -I- can do about it.
 
Amazing that people here regard toddlers as criminals worthy of this treatment.

DrudgeCages.jpg


Obama has the kids shrink wrapped, easier to sell them to the traffickers.

Flashback: Obama Administration placed border children with human smugglers
Obama isn't president. You own this mess and these policies. What are going to do besides blame everyone else for your incompetent and abusive policies?

I didn't hear you make a SINGLE FUCKING PEEP about these stolen kids when your Messiah was President.

And now that we learn that 1 in 3 DO NOT MATCH THE DNA OF THEIR "PARENTS" you still DO NOT MAKE A SINGLE FUCKING PEEP ABOUT THE TRAFFICKED CHILDREN!!

What the fuck is wrong with you?
1 in 3. Of what. All immigrant kids? Or those border officers had reason to to BELIEVE were trafficked? (And when there is a strongsuspician I have no issue with seperatuon) Does this justify your Mezzoah's picy of child abuse at the border?
but you don't blame the parents or the coyotes bringing them in. Why?

you seem to believe we owe them something. nope!!!

how are they our burden?
 
Almost 300 migrant children have been removed from a border patrol facility in Texas after media reports of lawyers describing “appalling” and potentially dangerous conditions, Department of Homeland Security officials told NBC News.

Lawyers who recently visited two Texas facilities holding migrant children described seeing young children and teenagers not being able to shower for days or even weeks, inadequate food, flu outbreaks and prolonged periods of detention.

Yeah, Trump and his swamp creatures are deplorable, in fact they are evil and criminal.


The problem is Congress. President Trump has been warning about the crisis at the border for literally months.

Instead, Congress is interested in making sure that President Trump doesn't have a single legislative victory.

Pocahontas is at the facility in Homestead FL today, says that ICE just needs to close it down, and I guess just release the illegal alien children to the traffickers that brought them.

Processing people takes time, and with the democrat rules of Open Borders, and Trump's booming economy, America is the number destination. Everyone wants to live under the rule of Donald J. Trump.
 
Almost 300 migrant children have been removed from a border patrol facility in Texas after media reports of lawyers describing “appalling” and potentially dangerous conditions, Department of Homeland Security officials told NBC News.

Lawyers who recently visited two Texas facilities holding migrant children described seeing young children and teenagers not being able to shower for days or even weeks, inadequate food, flu outbreaks and prolonged periods of detention.

Yeah, Trump and his swamp creatures are deplorable, in fact they are evil and criminal.
Funny how this ha s only bothered you since Trump took office.
Not so much. but the difference was when Obama couldn't get congress to act in a bipartisan manner to overhaul immigration, and "deterrence" didn't work, the admin shifted to building facilities for temporary housing and moving the children to foster care.

The republicans appear to prefer locking them up indefinitely.

Neither approach is the best we should be able to do, but
Lm dvzrj
Trumpists: a group that supports abusing children for political purposes.

There is no other explanation for not treating children well. These people care more for unborn zygotes then they do for children already born and suffering.



I would not go so far.

But I will not be drawn into defending the actions of the parents or the lefties that encourage them to come.
What the right fails to recognize is that this current immigration issue isnt a "pull" problem, it is a "push" problem. They arent being drawn to the US, like the Mexican migrants coming for work, they are being pushed out of Honduras, Guatamala, El Salvador by drought, extreme poverty and violence. So a parent faced with with terrible choices chooses what they think will save their children and you all label them bad parents because they dont want their kids to starve ti death or swallowed by the endemic violence.

Then you have horrible filthy conditions the kids are being kept in under American detention.. Andwhat is the response?

Blame throwing. Not this is unacceptable, lets at keadt fix it for the moment...no. Not taking responsibility but blaming.

Trump administration owns all tbe policies at play. They can choose to improve conditions and have the direct power to do so but they would rathet use the suffering of children for political purposes. Again. And Again.



1. If it was a push problem as you claim, they would stop in Southern Mexico.

2. If we don't find the right people or causes to blame, then we can't actually address the cause of the problem.

3. It is your side that is using the suffering of children for political purposes.

1. The fact thst they dont stop in Mexico, a coybtry also beset by poverty and violence, doesnt make itany less ofa push factor. Many have rekatives in the US.

2. Blame lies with the policies put in place by this administration that turned a border crisis into a humanitarian one. This isnt even close to the high numbers we have had before yet some how huge numbers of kids weren't held in such conditions for such lengths of time before now.


You're right. When Obama faced a similar issue, we opted for basically assimilating the kids. For the Gop, placing them in jails is preferable.
President Obama Also Faced A 'Crisis' At The Southern Border

Trump would also prefer simply having refugee camps on the southern side of Mexico's border with Guatemala.

But as we've discussed the only solution is a combination of revamping our immigration and assisting central American countries in having functioning societies.

As we've discussed, the only real solution would be
maybe don't come here. seems like the best solution.

And BTW, obammy caged kids. no matter how many fking times you wish to deviate from that. you just can't hold that man accountable for his own actions.
 
We'll get the government we deserve-we just don't know if it will be in English or Spanish.
If Democrats ever get elected as long as they are on this Socialistic Communism kick, make that Chinese, Arabic, or Russian, whoever has the longest dagger and is willing to genocide dissenters in the manner of the head-removing Saddam Hussein & sons; a hundred million or so if Maoism resurfaces in China or Korea; or a similar number if Putin sees our military go under with capitulation by the Democrats who seize power through more and more lies/false narratives. As cruel as Aztec descendents are, they couldn't overcome the Conquistadores who by far decimated all but the servile in that civilization that ruled in the fifteenth century, when Columbus sailed the Atlantic toward the fabled lands of the setting sun, which he thought was China, but not hardly.
 
Almost 300 migrant children have been removed from a border patrol facility in Texas after media reports of lawyers describing “appalling” and potentially dangerous conditions, Department of Homeland Security officials told NBC News.

Lawyers who recently visited two Texas facilities holding migrant children described seeing young children and teenagers not being able to shower for days or even weeks, inadequate food, flu outbreaks and prolonged periods of detention.

Yeah, Trump and his swamp creatures are deplorable, in fact they are evil and criminal.



Send 'em back. Problem solved. :D
Yep
 
Almost 300 migrant children have been removed from a border patrol facility in Texas after media reports of lawyers describing “appalling” and potentially dangerous conditions, Department of Homeland Security officials told NBC News.

Lawyers who recently visited two Texas facilities holding migrant children described seeing young children and teenagers not being able to shower for days or even weeks, inadequate food, flu outbreaks and prolonged periods of detention.

Yeah, Trump and his swamp creatures are deplorable, in fact they are evil and criminal.
You libs are friggin idiots.
 

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