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That they view Hillary as the beter candidate is not the issue here, Mein Herr.The horror. The party sees HRC as a better matchup against Trump than Bernie.
The DNC has rules that rig the primary in favor of the candidate they want on the ticket..Yep, even though Bernie won more votes and took 50% of the vote to her 48%, Clinton still got 68 delegates and Bernie only got 65, wow.
Hillary Clinton candidate page
Doncha just love them Super Duper Delegates?
Nice if you hold the power.....
To maintain the facade of representing the will of the people.The DNC has rules that rig the primary in favor of the candidate they want on the ticket..
If the thing is already decided, why bother wasting time and money with a primary?
Mein whine,That they view Hillary as the beter candidate is not the issue here, Mein Herr.The horror. The party sees HRC as a better matchup against Trump than Bernie.
IT is that the DNC is using such a plainly heavy handed approach to denying a democratic process to the members of the Democratic Party.
Look again, dude, and this time use your reading glasses, mmk?sanders won 65 pledged delegates, clinton 58.
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The process makes no sense.Welcome to what pissed us off in 2008 (those who were HRC supporters)....HRC won Texas and BHO won Idaho in the same week or so and Obama got something like twice as many delegates that week.
They all agreed to the rules going in.... most of the observers/supporters didn't know them though.
pledged delegates. clinton won 58 in michigan, sanders won 65.Look again, dude, and this time use your reading glasses, mmk?sanders won 65 pledged delegates, clinton 58.
Hillary Clinton candidate page
I would love to be wrong about this, but I've pretty much decided that there are two huge groups standing in the way: Those who don't care enough to pay attention (but who can tell you all about Kim Kardashian's latest selfie) and those who are comfy with the status quo (but who say they want change).IF Trump, Cruz and Sanders are all shut out of this election by corrupt politics, then it is time to burn this rotted structure to the ground and start over.
who has won more votes, clinton or sanders?The process makes no sense.Welcome to what pissed us off in 2008 (those who were HRC supporters)....HRC won Texas and BHO won Idaho in the same week or so and Obama got something like twice as many delegates that week.
They all agreed to the rules going in.... most of the observers/supporters didn't know them though.
I think of the voter. The frustration one must experience when they see their candidate of choice has won the popular vote, yet the convoluted rules the party has set up, essentially dismiss their vote.
Does it come as any surprise people have simply tuned out? Their though it that no matter what they do when they cast a ballot, it won't make any difference?
That to the chosen on goes the spoils?
I suppose you as a HRC true believer that she can do no wrong and is OWED the White House, see no problem with this.
If you had any credibility whatsoever, you'd object to this result and the manner in which the DNC has rigged the primary process.
Nowhere in the OP is the government mentioned.Clearly you're ignorant of the fact that both major parties are private entities, not part of 'government,' at liberty to select their respective presidential nominees as they see fit.Yep, even though Bernie won more votes and took 50% of the vote to her 48%, Clinton still got 68 delegates and Bernie only got 65, wow.
Hillary Clinton candidate page
Doncha just love them Super Duper Delegates?
Nice if you hold the power.....
Consequently the thread premise fails.
Lol, so 'thats just the way it is?'[
Mein whine,
Rules are rules for a reason. You may not like the reason. We are not a pure democracy, nor is the democratic (or republican) party.
Clayton snuck out of the attic again and is using his nieces computer downstairs.Nowhere in the OP is the government mentioned.Clearly you're ignorant of the fact that both major parties are private entities, not part of 'government,' at liberty to select their respective presidential nominees as they see fit.Yep, even though Bernie won more votes and took 50% of the vote to her 48%, Clinton still got 68 delegates and Bernie only got 65, wow.
Hillary Clinton candidate page
Doncha just love them Super Duper Delegates?
Nice if you hold the power.....
Consequently the thread premise fails.
Now, apply your logic to the Electoral College members in those blue states that despite the GOP candidate winning an overwhelming majority of the voting precincts, must still cast their ballot for the popular vote winner that just happens to capture the urban precincts that are packed with democrat voters.
Be careful what you wish for
Not true. If Bernie was not losing the popular vote ... even last night ... badly (The DNC has rules that rig the primary in favor of the candidate they want on the ticket..Yep, even though Bernie won more votes and took 50% of the vote to her 48%, Clinton still got 68 delegates and Bernie only got 65, wow.
Hillary Clinton candidate page
Doncha just love them Super Duper Delegates?
Nice if you hold the power.....
If the thing is already decided, why bother wasting time and money with a primary?
More than 150K voters voted for Hill than Bernie yesterday ... out ofWhy isn't Hillary mopping the floor with Bernie he's sure no Obama not even close? Why does she have to cheat to win? Is she that pathetic of a candidate?
It's the way it is because the dems can't win without blacks and latinos and they don't really like Bernie. If he could win them, he'd have the superdelgates. And I really don't see the Asians on the west coast lining up for a self-described socialist. The democratic and republican parties are NOT pure democracies. If that bothers you, found a freaking party or move.Lol, so 'thats just the way it is?'[
Mein whine,
Rules are rules for a reason. You may not like the reason. We are not a pure democracy, nor is the democratic (or republican) party.
Dude YOU people dont run your own party and I highly suggest you TAKE IT BACK and stop making excuses for the whores that run it.
Yeah..I would love to be wrong about this, but I've pretty much decided that there are two huge groups standing in the way: Those who don't care enough to pay attention (but who can tell you all about Kim Kardashian's latest selfie) and those who are comfy with the status quo (but who say they want change).IF Trump, Cruz and Sanders are all shut out of this election by corrupt politics, then it is time to burn this rotted structure to the ground and start over.
There are some pretty obvious things that can be done to largely take corruption out of politics, but only if we really want to.
.
I read where Sanders had won the Michigan primaryNot true. If Bernie was not losing the popular vote ... even last night ... badly (The DNC has rules that rig the primary in favor of the candidate they want on the ticket..Yep, even though Bernie won more votes and took 50% of the vote to her 48%, Clinton still got 68 delegates and Bernie only got 65, wow.
Hillary Clinton candidate page
Doncha just love them Super Duper Delegates?
Nice if you hold the power.....
If the thing is already decided, why bother wasting time and money with a primary?
More than 150K voters voted for Hill than Bernie yesterday ... out ofWhy isn't Hillary mopping the floor with Bernie he's sure no Obama not even close? Why does she have to cheat to win? Is she that pathetic of a candidate?
It's the way it is because the dems can't win without blacks and latinos and they don't really like Bernie. If he could win them, he'd have the superdelgates. And I really don't see the Asians on the west coast lining up for a self-described socialist. The democratic and republican parties are NOT pure democracies. If that bothers you, found a freaking party or move.Lol, so 'thats just the way it is?'[
Mein whine,
Rules are rules for a reason. You may not like the reason. We are not a pure democracy, nor is the democratic (or republican) party.
Dude YOU people dont run your own party and I highly suggest you TAKE IT BACK and stop making excuses for the whores that run it.
One, change the rules for the Electoral College.
Dump the winner take all method. Instead EC votes are divided up in direct proportion to the number of voting precincts won by each candidate.
Or divide by house districts won. or by counties won....
Two....As part of their FCC licensing requirements, all TV and Radio stations MUST provide no cost air time for political advertising. This will be funded by the money now given to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. it is time to cut PBS loose.
What this meant to do is keep some of the money powerful political committees and other organizations from having as much influence as they do now.
While I am not a Republican, the winner take all primaries are a way of contrasting the leaders from the also-rans, and though it is heavy handed, it at least is still DEMOCRATIC in nature.why do you republicans never bitch about the winner take all states on the republican side? sure, the democratic party has unpledged super-delegates that could slightly sway the delegate count for any given state, but in the republican primaries a candidate with 49.5% of the vote could walk away with nothing to show for it in some states and nearly half the delegates in others.
does that seem like a fair representation of the republican voters?
