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I thought libturds denied the "death panel" mentality,, and here it is in all it's glory.. glory be. shades of Sarah Palin.
The death panels have never gone away they exist only for those who don't have the resources to stay alive. Palin used her death panel talking points as a political football railing against Obamacare.
Don't think she has any empathy for her fellow man. I do, see the difference?
so you mocked Sarah Palin and denied death panels and all the while you knew she was right and that they existed.. We see how you are now.
Had a heart transplant today.
Had a heart transplant today.
I wish him a good recovery.Yeah....he's long-overdue for one, serious
ASS-KICKIN'!!!!!!
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I suggest we have a Lottery....to see who GETS the opportunity to kick the shit outta him....a Lottery limited to family-men.....in their 20s-or-30s....who need heart-transplants.
If they've got combat-related PTSD, they get an auto-pass to the front-of-the-line.
I am hoping you die a painful horrifying death.
Mr. Cheney was at or near the top. I don't believe who he is had anything to do with it,
Proof once again that some people will believe anything.
Doctors should have let him die on the table. Would have done the world a favor. IMO.
But there is still hope he could die soon. I will keep my fingers crossed.
I am hoping you die a painful horrifying death.
It is quite easy to level the playing.
If the bill to eliminate the Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB), the real death panels,
does not pass the Senate and/or the SCOTUS does not "defang" Papa ObamaCare, we may soon get a taste of the brave new world.
To the point that the doctor is not using non relevant factors or personal non-relevant opinions
sure it is "equality before the eyes" of the doctor
What???
I am hoping you die a painful horrifying death.
Break my fuking heart, will ya?
Hey, if you hope in one hand and shit in the other, see which one fills up first.
How does Dick's dick taste in your mouth full auto?
Level the playing field? Yea right.
To the point that the doctor is not using non relevant factors or personal non-relevant opinions
sure it is "equality before the eyes" of the doctor
What???
as I said in the prior post, it seems pretty clear
I did augment this after posting, so perhaps you missed the example
eg Even if a doctor was from one political party and the patient from another
The oath would not allow him to approach treatment on them differently
Look to me it is a" definition issue",
we are talking about
If the bill to eliminate the Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB), the real death panels,
does not pass the Senate and/or the SCOTUS does not "defang" Papa ObamaCare, we may soon get a taste of the brave new world.
The effects of the IPAB's proposals, however, may not be to ration health care, raise costs to beneficiaries, restrict benefits, or modify eligibility criteria. Proposals may not, before 2020, target the rates of particular providers primarily hospitals and hospices that are already singled out by the ACA for extraordinary cuts.
link
(I've not read the entire thread, that said...) The real issue for debate is a very simple one and has nothing to do with Cheney's age or character. The issue is this: Wealth. Mr. Cheney is very rich, and very rich people get what they want, when they want it, apparently even a new lease on life.
Did Mr. Cheney receive preferential treatment and receive a heart which might have benefited a younger person?
Did a quid pro qou exchange occur?
Did another die when the heart was given to Mr. Cheney?
He's a wealthy man. He doesn't need taxpayer-funded healthcare.
I've little doubt you're a moron.
And yet..........he has it
Has it?
Oh you mean benefits that are pushed and forced on the individual by the gov't as "earned" benefits from work
Thank god the gov't has a revenue surplus with him from all the money he has had
to pay them over the years
Yes, Timothy Stoltzfus, a pro Papa Obama Care advocate
would be expected to say that .....
However, since as Pelosi said "we have to pass it to see what is in it"
is now coming to fruition
We are beginning to see just how many of the claims made
are not true
And yet..........he has it
Has it?
Oh you mean benefits that are pushed and forced on the individual by the gov't as "earned" benefits from work
Thank god the gov't has a revenue surplus with him from all the money he has had
to pay them over the years
With Cheney having five heart attacks, trust me, there was no surplus from his medical care.
Cheney has government healthcare just like millions of federal employees. It is not free, he has to pay into it. The point is that Cheney is fortunate that he has a health insurance policy that can cover a million dollar procedure for a 71 year old man. Many Americans do not.
And yet..........he has it
Has it?
Oh you mean benefits that are pushed and forced on the individual by the gov't as "earned" benefits from work
Thank god the gov't has a revenue surplus with him from all the money he has had
to pay them over the years
With Cheney having five heart attacks, trust me, there was no surplus from his medical care.
Cheney has government healthcare just like millions of federal employees. It is not free, he has to pay into it. The point is that Cheney is fortunate that he has a health insurance policy that can cover a million dollar procedure for a 71 year old man. Many Americans do not.
Has it?
Oh you mean benefits that are pushed and forced on the individual by the gov't as "earned" benefits from work
Thank god the gov't has a revenue surplus with him from all the money he has had
to pay them over the years
With Cheney having five heart attacks, trust me, there was no surplus from his medical care.
Cheney has government healthcare just like millions of federal employees. It is not free, he has to pay into it. The point is that Cheney is fortunate that he has a health insurance policy that can cover a million dollar procedure for a 71 year old man. Many Americans do not.
Really
Just one year as VP he paid over half million in Federal Taxes, alone
So you believe that the gov't has a negative cash flow in terms of tax receipts with Cheney
over the whole course of his life ?
(I've not read the entire thread, that said...) The real issue for debate is a very simple one and has nothing to do with Cheney's age or character. The issue is this: Wealth. Mr. Cheney is very rich, and very rich people get what they want, when they want it, apparently even a new lease on life.
Did Mr. Cheney receive preferential treatment and receive a heart which might have benefited a younger person?
Did a quid pro qou exchange occur?
Did another die when the heart was given to Mr. Cheney?
I'd answer no to the first two questions; as far as the last, there is no way to know the answer to that one. It could be that another person was higher on the list but for whatever reason, couldn't undergo the surgery.
I'm pretty damned cynical, and you probably won't find anyone more radical about healthcare than I am, but I truly don't believe that what happened here is any different than any other procurement and transplant scenario.
Had a heart transplant today.
A 71 y/o man getting a transplant is nothing to cheer about.
He's at the end of his life, the heart should have gone to someone with decades to go.
Why don't we just shoot old people in the head when they reach 70?Why on earth would they waste a new heart on that man? He's old and very sick, they should have given one to someone who is young and has a life to look forward to.
Pathetic.
So a heart that could have kept a younger person going for decades, has about 4 more years to go in an old man.
Are you under the impression that all American men who happen to be alive that long automatically drop dead the moment they hit 75.2, doctor?
