Did President Trump violate campaign finance laws? Professor Dershowitz doesn't think so!

In the clear: Once again, official Washington is all aflutter over the prospect of “getting POTUS Trump” after special counsel Robert Mueller got eight of 18 convictions against former campaign manager Paul Manafort and a guilty plea from Michael Cohen, the president’s former personal lawyer.

While news of both legal developments hitting on the same day may seem like a big blow against POTUS Trump, especially the claim that Cohen’s hush money payments to a former porn star and Playboy bunny at the direction of his former top client could amount to campaign finance violations, talk host and author Mark Levin, head of Landmark Legal Foundation and former Reagan Justice Department official, warned POTUS supporters to calm down.

(Excerpt) Read more at thenationalsentinel.com
 
This crime goes straight to influencing the election. Which makes the "goon in chief" an illegal president. I said it a year and a half ago, and I was right.
Did obumas 2 million in FOREIGN DONOR MONEY that was HIDDEN, do the same? His campaign got a $300+K fine out of it....that was all!
LOLOLOLOL

Stop diverting your own thread. :badgrin:

This isn’t about the National Inquirer. It’s not about Karen McDougal. It’s not about John Edwards and it’s not about Barack Obama.

It’s about Trump and did Trump commit a crime and Alan Dershowitz’s opinion on that. Dershowitz acknowledges it is a crime if it was an unreported campaign contribution.

And it appears it was.
Oh brilliant one...lolol....a candidate is allowed to make any size donation to his own campsign....set, match, game over!!....Now I fully expect you come to back with more of your BULLDADA.....and it is STILL ONLY an FEC VIOLATION. AND AT MOST A CIVIL LAW CRIME!
”set, match, game over!!”

Holyfuckingshit! :eusa_doh:

Who said anything about the size of the “donation” being illegal?

Not me.

Who said Trump couldn’t donate to his own campaign?

Not me.

You literally just declared yourself the weiner of this debate by latching onto arguments I never made.

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I think I would kill myself if I ever did anything that stupid.
 
Of course. Smart move on Trumps part. Pay her off and get her out of the election. I'd have done the same and so would you.

Now did she and he have an affair?? Unknown. Its he said. She said. No one will ever know.
Great, so we agree the motive for looking to sell her story in 2016 was because Trump was running for president and Trump’s motivation for buying her silence was also because he was running for president.

So what exactly are you challenging? :dunno:

Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or
Of course. Smart move on Trumps part. Pay her off and get her out of the election. I'd have done the same and so would you.

Now did she and he have an affair?? Unknown. Its he said. She said. No one will ever know.
Great, so we agree the motive for looking to sell her story in 2016 was because Trump was running for president and Trump’s motivation for buying her silence was also because he was running for president.

So what exactly are you challenging? :dunno:

Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or

How in hell do you call paying that woman off a campaign contribution?? What a stupid statement.

It had nothing to do with campaign contributions.

It was a pay off to keep her and her story out of the news. Smart move on Trumps part.
I just quoted the law for you. See, you prove me 100% right when I said to WTP not long ago how rightards can’t understand the law.

Again, the law states a contribution is, ”anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office”

So let’s break that down so hopefully, your subpar intelligence can fathom the implication therein...

“anything of value.” ... Trump put a value of $130,000 on silencing Stormy Daniels.

”made by any person” ... includes Trump.

”for the purpose of influencing an election” ... even you confessed that was Trump’s intention, ”of course. Smart move on Trumps part. Pay her off and get her out of the election. I'd have done the same and so would you.” ~ Claudette

”for Federal office” ... the election trump was running in was for President of the United States, which is a Federal office.

Do you understand that law now or do I need to break out crayons?

Well seems to me the Hitlery and the DNC are guilty of the same thing.

They paid Steel and unknown amount of money for dirt in a fake dossier on Trump to influence the election.

If you can think Trump guilty then you have to think Hitlery is as well.
 
Yes she did. And the timing reveals the reason she did was because Trump’s election was just 11 days out.

Of course. Smart move on Trumps part. Pay her off and get her out of the election. I'd have done the same and so would you.

Now did she and he have an affair?? Unknown. Its he said. She said. No one will ever know.
Great, so we agree the motive for looking to sell her story in 2016 was because Trump was running for president and Trump’s motivation for buying her silence was also because he was running for president.

So what exactly are you challenging? :dunno:

Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or
Can you or Mueller PROVE to a jury that it influenced an election...PLEASE explain how.
The proof lies in what the law says, pending a person can read and comprehend.
 
Su
I cannot get over the ignorance from these Trump apologists.
Truth be had, we feel exactly the same about you 2 digit IQ folk!
If that were true, you would have already proven us wrong. Guess what, you didn't. So where does that put you? That's right, to the back of the bus.
Of course we did, you are too dumb to realize it!
LOLOL

Well, no, you actually haven’t. Claiming you did in the face of vacuous arguments only make you appear desperate and foolish.

To recap... you claim the reason Trump paid off Stormy Daniels just 11 days before his election was to protect his family. But you failed miserably to prove that as you have no explanation for why he didn’t pay her to shut up in 2011 when she first sought to sell her story.
Apparently there is a vacuum between your ears it has been explained several times in here just it smacks the crap out of your supposed truth...now the real question is WHAT will happen in reality instead of your datdreams!
Keep runnsing from explaining why Trump would payoff Daniels 11 days before an election if it wasn’t about the election when he chose not pay for her silence in 2011 when he wasn’t running in an election.

No skin off my back.
 
Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or
Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or

Now lets talk about Hitlery and the DNC paying Steele, and ex British agent for a fake dossier on Trump.

Would you call that trying to influence an election??
LOLOLOLOL

No, let’s not divert to Hillary.

Let’s talk about this thread topic.

This thread is about Trump; while the butwhatabouthillary thread is over there —>

Now that we [seemingly] agree that trump broke the law, let’s see if we can agree on an appropriate punishment, shall we?
Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or
Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or

Now lets talk about Hitlery and the DNC paying Steele, and ex British agent for a fake dossier on Trump.

Would you call that trying to influence an election??
LOLOLOLOL

No, let’s not divert to Hillary.

Let’s talk about this thread topic.

This thread is about Trump; while the butwhatabouthillary thread is over there —>

Now that we [seemingly] agree that trump broke the law, let’s see if we can agree on an appropriate punishment, shall we?

Tit for tat buddy.

If you can call a pay off to Flowers a campaign contribution seems to me a pay off to Steele for dirt on Trump can be called a campaign contribution.
LOLOL

No worries. I consider your refusal to discuss this any further without diverting to butwhatabout_______ (fill in the name of a Democrat) as concession on your part that you’ve exhausted any and all defenses for Trump breaking the law.

:dance:

Hey nice to know you are one sided when it comes to the law.

Hope you have a good rest of the day. I sure will.
 
This crime goes straight to influencing the election. Which makes the "goon in chief" an illegal president. I said it a year and a half ago, and I was right.
Did obumas 2 million in FOREIGN DONOR MONEY that was HIDDEN, do the same? His campaign got a $300+K fine out of it....that was all!
LOLOLOLOL

Stop diverting your own thread. :badgrin:

This isn’t about the National Inquirer. It’s not about Karen McDougal. It’s not about John Edwards and it’s not about Barack Obama.

It’s about Trump and did Trump commit a crime and Alan Dershowitz’s opinion on that. Dershowitz acknowledges it is a crime if it was an unreported campaign contribution.

And it appears it was.
Oh brilliant one...lolol....a candidate is allowed to make any size donation to his own campsign....set, match, game over!!....Now I fully expect you come to back with more of your BULLDADA.....and it is STILL ONLY an FEC VIOLATION. AND AT MOST A CIVIL LAW CRIME!
”set, match, game over!!”

Holyfuckingshit! :eusa_doh:

Who said anything about the size of the “donation” being illegal?

Not me.

Who said Trump couldn’t donate to his own campaign?

Not me.

You literally just declared yourself the weiner of this debate by latching onto arguments I never made.

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I think I would kill myself if I ever did anything that stupid.
Really who cares what you say and think....

Michael D. Cohen, Trump’s Longtime Lawyer, Says He Paid Stormy Daniels Out of His Own Pocket

You mean HE LIED AND NOW CHANGED THE STORY....GET THAT MAN IN FRONT OF A JURY!!!!

Michael D. Cohen, Trump’s Longtime Lawyer, Says He Paid Stormy Daniels Out of His Own Pocket
 
Yes she did. And the timing reveals the reason she did was because Trump’s election was just 11 days out.

Of course. Smart move on Trumps part. Pay her off and get her out of the election. I'd have done the same and so would you.

Now did she and he have an affair?? Unknown. Its he said. She said. No one will ever know.
Great, so we agree the motive for looking to sell her story in 2016 was because Trump was running for president and Trump’s motivation for buying her silence was also because he was running for president.

So what exactly are you challenging? :dunno:

Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or
Can you or Mueller PROVE to a jury that it influenced an election...PLEASE explain how.
That’s easy — even die hard con, Claudette, just admitted trump silenced her to “get her out of the election.”

If cons on this forum get that, no doubt empaneling an impartial jury will get that too.
 
Truth be had, we feel exactly the same about you 2 digit IQ folk!
If that were true, you would have already proven us wrong. Guess what, you didn't. So where does that put you? That's right, to the back of the bus.
Of course we did, you are too dumb to realize it!
LOLOL

Well, no, you actually haven’t. Claiming you did in the face of vacuous arguments only make you appear desperate and foolish.

To recap... you claim the reason Trump paid off Stormy Daniels just 11 days before his election was to protect his family. But you failed miserably to prove that as you have no explanation for why he didn’t pay her to shut up in 2011 when she first sought to sell her story.
Apparently there is a vacuum between your ears it has been explained several times in here just it smacks the crap out of your supposed truth...now the real question is WHAT will happen in reality instead of your datdreams!
Keep runnsing from explaining why Trump would payoff Daniels 11 days before an election if it wasn’t about the election when he chose not pay for her silence in 2011 when he wasn’t running in an election.

No skin off my back.

Absolutely a vacuum between your ears...want to state that for the umpteenth time! My GOD!
 
Great, so we agree the motive for looking to sell her story in 2016 was because Trump was running for president and Trump’s motivation for buying her silence was also because he was running for president.

So what exactly are you challenging? :dunno:

Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or
Great, so we agree the motive for looking to sell her story in 2016 was because Trump was running for president and Trump’s motivation for buying her silence was also because he was running for president.

So what exactly are you challenging? :dunno:

Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or

How in hell do you call paying that woman off a campaign contribution?? What a stupid statement.

It had nothing to do with campaign contributions.

It was a pay off to keep her and her story out of the news. Smart move on Trumps part.
I just quoted the law for you. See, you prove me 100% right when I said to WTP not long ago how rightards can’t understand the law.

Again, the law states a contribution is, ”anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office”

So let’s break that down so hopefully, your subpar intelligence can fathom the implication therein...

“anything of value.” ... Trump put a value of $130,000 on silencing Stormy Daniels.

”made by any person” ... includes Trump.

”for the purpose of influencing an election” ... even you confessed that was Trump’s intention, ”of course. Smart move on Trumps part. Pay her off and get her out of the election. I'd have done the same and so would you.” ~ Claudette

”for Federal office” ... the election trump was running in was for President of the United States, which is a Federal office.

Do you understand that law now or do I need to break out crayons?

Well seems to me the Hitlery and the DNC are guilty of the same thing.

They paid Steel and unknown amount of money for dirt in a fake dossier on Trump to influence the election.

If you can think Trump guilty then you have to think Hitlery is as well.
Yes, we need crayons. They still don't get it.
 
Of course. Smart move on Trumps part. Pay her off and get her out of the election. I'd have done the same and so would you.

Now did she and he have an affair?? Unknown. Its he said. She said. No one will ever know.
Great, so we agree the motive for looking to sell her story in 2016 was because Trump was running for president and Trump’s motivation for buying her silence was also because he was running for president.

So what exactly are you challenging? :dunno:

Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or
Can you or Mueller PROVE to a jury that it influenced an election...PLEASE explain how.
That’s easy — even die hard con, Claudette, just admitted trump silenced her to “get her out of the election.”

If cons on this forum get that, no doubt empaneling an impartial jury will get that too.
That is Claudettes opinion. Mine is you're a vacuum...others may vary, but after being schooled so many times, one does have to wonder about you!
 
Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or
Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or

Now lets talk about Hitlery and the DNC paying Steele, and ex British agent for a fake dossier on Trump.

Would you call that trying to influence an election??
LOLOLOLOL

No, let’s not divert to Hillary.

Let’s talk about this thread topic.

This thread is about Trump; while the butwhatabouthillary thread is over there —>

Now that we [seemingly] agree that trump broke the law, let’s see if we can agree on an appropriate punishment, shall we?
Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or
Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or

Now lets talk about Hitlery and the DNC paying Steele, and ex British agent for a fake dossier on Trump.

Would you call that trying to influence an election??
LOLOLOLOL

No, let’s not divert to Hillary.

Let’s talk about this thread topic.

This thread is about Trump; while the butwhatabouthillary thread is over there —>

Now that we [seemingly] agree that trump broke the law, let’s see if we can agree on an appropriate punishment, shall we?

Tit for tat buddy.

If you can call a pay off to Flowers a campaign contribution seems to me a pay off to Steele for dirt on Trump can be called a campaign contribution.
LOLOL

No worries. I consider your refusal to discuss this any further without diverting to butwhatabout_______ (fill in the name of a Democrat) as concession on your part that you’ve exhausted any and all defenses for Trump breaking the law.

:dance:
Of course. Smart move on Trumps part. Pay her off and get her out of the election. I'd have done the same and so would you.

Now did she and he have an affair?? Unknown. Its he said. She said. No one will ever know.
Great, so we agree the motive for looking to sell her story in 2016 was because Trump was running for president and Trump’s motivation for buying her silence was also because he was running for president.

So what exactly are you challenging? :dunno:

Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or
Can you or Mueller PROVE to a jury that it influenced an election...PLEASE explain how.
That’s easy — even die hard con, Claudette, just admitted trump silenced her to “get her out of the election.”

If cons on this forum get that, no doubt empaneling an impartial jury will get that too.

Of course he did. Common Sense.

I'm sure Hitlery and the DNC paid Steele a campaign contribution for dirt on Trump.

Funny how only Stormy's money is the only money you consider a campaign contribution.

I'll bet Mueller will see it differently.
 
This crime goes straight to influencing the election. Which makes the "goon in chief" an illegal president. I said it a year and a half ago, and I was right.
Did obumas 2 million in FOREIGN DONOR MONEY that was HIDDEN, do the same? His campaign got a $300+K fine out of it....that was all!
LOLOLOLOL

Stop diverting your own thread. :badgrin:

This isn’t about the National Inquirer. It’s not about Karen McDougal. It’s not about John Edwards and it’s not about Barack Obama.

It’s about Trump and did Trump commit a crime and Alan Dershowitz’s opinion on that. Dershowitz acknowledges it is a crime if it was an unreported campaign contribution.

And it appears it was.
Oh brilliant one...lolol....a candidate is allowed to make any size donation to his own campsign....set, match, game over!!....Now I fully expect you come to back with more of your BULLDADA.....and it is STILL ONLY an FEC VIOLATION. AND AT MOST A CIVIL LAW CRIME!
”set, match, game over!!”

Holyfuckingshit! :eusa_doh:

Who said anything about the size of the “donation” being illegal?

Not me.

Who said Trump couldn’t donate to his own campaign?

Not me.

You literally just declared yourself the weiner of this debate by latching onto arguments I never made.

1348488761322-smiley_rofl.gif


I think I would kill myself if I ever did anything that stupid.
Really who cares what you say and think....

Michael D. Cohen, Trump’s Longtime Lawyer, Says He Paid Stormy Daniels Out of His Own Pocket

You mean HE LIED AND NOW CHANGED THE STORY....GET THAT MAN IN FRONT OF A JURY!!!!

Michael D. Cohen, Trump’s Longtime Lawyer, Says He Paid Stormy Daniels Out of His Own Pocket
So? Trump also lied and changed his story. He first said he had nothing to do with paying off Stormy Daniels and didn’t know where Cohen got the money to do so; then later admitted he did know and reimbursed Cohen the money. So trump’s credibility is just as shot as Cohen’s.

Meanwhile, it was trump’s campaign, not Cohen’s. It was trump’s responsibility to see that the $130,000 payment was reported to the FEC. Instead of doing that, Trump tried to hide the payment through a shell company setup by Cohen where Trump’s name would not appear on the company or the non-disclosure agreement signed by Stormy Daniels.
 
Great, so we agree the motive for looking to sell her story in 2016 was because Trump was running for president and Trump’s motivation for buying her silence was also because he was running for president.

So what exactly are you challenging? :dunno:

Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or
Great, so we agree the motive for looking to sell her story in 2016 was because Trump was running for president and Trump’s motivation for buying her silence was also because he was running for president.

So what exactly are you challenging? :dunno:

Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or

How in hell do you call paying that woman off a campaign contribution?? What a stupid statement.

It had nothing to do with campaign contributions.

It was a pay off to keep her and her story out of the news. Smart move on Trumps part.
I just quoted the law for you. See, you prove me 100% right when I said to WTP not long ago how rightards can’t understand the law.

Again, the law states a contribution is, ”anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office”

So let’s break that down so hopefully, your subpar intelligence can fathom the implication therein...

“anything of value.” ... Trump put a value of $130,000 on silencing Stormy Daniels.

”made by any person” ... includes Trump.

”for the purpose of influencing an election” ... even you confessed that was Trump’s intention, ”of course. Smart move on Trumps part. Pay her off and get her out of the election. I'd have done the same and so would you.” ~ Claudette

”for Federal office” ... the election trump was running in was for President of the United States, which is a Federal office.

Do you understand that law now or do I need to break out crayons?

Well seems to me the Hitlery and the DNC are guilty of the same thing.

They paid Steel and unknown amount of money for dirt in a fake dossier on Trump to influence the election.

If you can think Trump guilty then you have to think Hitlery is as well.
Keep diverting. :scared1:

:lmao:
 
Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or
Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or

How in hell do you call paying that woman off a campaign contribution?? What a stupid statement.

It had nothing to do with campaign contributions.

It was a pay off to keep her and her story out of the news. Smart move on Trumps part.
I just quoted the law for you. See, you prove me 100% right when I said to WTP not long ago how rightards can’t understand the law.

Again, the law states a contribution is, ”anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office”

So let’s break that down so hopefully, your subpar intelligence can fathom the implication therein...

“anything of value.” ... Trump put a value of $130,000 on silencing Stormy Daniels.

”made by any person” ... includes Trump.

”for the purpose of influencing an election” ... even you confessed that was Trump’s intention, ”of course. Smart move on Trumps part. Pay her off and get her out of the election. I'd have done the same and so would you.” ~ Claudette

”for Federal office” ... the election trump was running in was for President of the United States, which is a Federal office.

Do you understand that law now or do I need to break out crayons?

Well seems to me the Hitlery and the DNC are guilty of the same thing.

They paid Steel and unknown amount of money for dirt in a fake dossier on Trump to influence the election.

If you can think Trump guilty then you have to think Hitlery is as well.
Yes, we need crayons. They still don't get it.

Yes you do so you can draw pictures.

Hitlery and the DNC are as guilty as you think Trump is if you consider money paid to Stormy a campaign contribution.

That money they paid Steele could be considered a campaign contribution to influence an election as well.

Wonder if Mueller or the FEC is looking into that??
 
Did obumas 2 million in FOREIGN DONOR MONEY that was HIDDEN, do the same? His campaign got a $300+K fine out of it....that was all!
LOLOLOLOL

Stop diverting your own thread. :badgrin:

This isn’t about the National Inquirer. It’s not about Karen McDougal. It’s not about John Edwards and it’s not about Barack Obama.

It’s about Trump and did Trump commit a crime and Alan Dershowitz’s opinion on that. Dershowitz acknowledges it is a crime if it was an unreported campaign contribution.

And it appears it was.
Oh brilliant one...lolol....a candidate is allowed to make any size donation to his own campsign....set, match, game over!!....Now I fully expect you come to back with more of your BULLDADA.....and it is STILL ONLY an FEC VIOLATION. AND AT MOST A CIVIL LAW CRIME!
”set, match, game over!!”

Holyfuckingshit! :eusa_doh:

Who said anything about the size of the “donation” being illegal?

Not me.

Who said Trump couldn’t donate to his own campaign?

Not me.

You literally just declared yourself the weiner of this debate by latching onto arguments I never made.

1348488761322-smiley_rofl.gif


I think I would kill myself if I ever did anything that stupid.
Really who cares what you say and think....

Michael D. Cohen, Trump’s Longtime Lawyer, Says He Paid Stormy Daniels Out of His Own Pocket

You mean HE LIED AND NOW CHANGED THE STORY....GET THAT MAN IN FRONT OF A JURY!!!!

Michael D. Cohen, Trump’s Longtime Lawyer, Says He Paid Stormy Daniels Out of His Own Pocket
So? Trump also lied and changed his story. He first said he had nothing to do with paying off Stormy Daniels and didn’t know where Cohen got the money to do so; then later admitted he did know and reimbursed Cohen the money. So trump’s credibility is just as shot as Cohen’s.

Meanwhile, it was trump’s campaign, not Cohen’s. It was trump’s responsibility to see that the $130,000 payment was reported to the FEC. Instead of doing that, Trump tried to hide the payment through a shell company setup by Cohen where Trump’s name would not appear on the company or the non-disclosure agreement signed by Stormy Daniels.
It doesn't matter. He broke no criminal law.... now you can have the last word, as some of us have things to do instead of sitting in mom's basement on dad's computer!
 
LOLOLOLOL

Stop diverting your own thread. :badgrin:

This isn’t about the National Inquirer. It’s not about Karen McDougal. It’s not about John Edwards and it’s not about Barack Obama.

It’s about Trump and did Trump commit a crime and Alan Dershowitz’s opinion on that. Dershowitz acknowledges it is a crime if it was an unreported campaign contribution.

And it appears it was.
Oh brilliant one...lolol....a candidate is allowed to make any size donation to his own campsign....set, match, game over!!....Now I fully expect you come to back with more of your BULLDADA.....and it is STILL ONLY an FEC VIOLATION. AND AT MOST A CIVIL LAW CRIME!
”set, match, game over!!”

Holyfuckingshit! :eusa_doh:

Who said anything about the size of the “donation” being illegal?

Not me.

Who said Trump couldn’t donate to his own campaign?

Not me.

You literally just declared yourself the weiner of this debate by latching onto arguments I never made.

1348488761322-smiley_rofl.gif


I think I would kill myself if I ever did anything that stupid.
Really who cares what you say and think....

Michael D. Cohen, Trump’s Longtime Lawyer, Says He Paid Stormy Daniels Out of His Own Pocket

You mean HE LIED AND NOW CHANGED THE STORY....GET THAT MAN IN FRONT OF A JURY!!!!

Michael D. Cohen, Trump’s Longtime Lawyer, Says He Paid Stormy Daniels Out of His Own Pocket
So? Trump also lied and changed his story. He first said he had nothing to do with paying off Stormy Daniels and didn’t know where Cohen got the money to do so; then later admitted he did know and reimbursed Cohen the money. So trump’s credibility is just as shot as Cohen’s.

Meanwhile, it was trump’s campaign, not Cohen’s. It was trump’s responsibility to see that the $130,000 payment was reported to the FEC. Instead of doing that, Trump tried to hide the payment through a shell company setup by Cohen where Trump’s name would not appear on the company or the non-disclosure agreement signed by Stormy Daniels.
It doesn't matter. He broke no criminal law.... now you can have the last word, as some of us have things to do instead of sitting in mom's basement on dad's computer!

Oh. Why do you call yourself baby deer?
 
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or

Now lets talk about Hitlery and the DNC paying Steele, and ex British agent for a fake dossier on Trump.

Would you call that trying to influence an election??
LOLOLOLOL

No, let’s not divert to Hillary.

Let’s talk about this thread topic.

This thread is about Trump; while the butwhatabouthillary thread is over there —>

Now that we [seemingly] agree that trump broke the law, let’s see if we can agree on an appropriate punishment, shall we?
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or

Now lets talk about Hitlery and the DNC paying Steele, and ex British agent for a fake dossier on Trump.

Would you call that trying to influence an election??
LOLOLOLOL

No, let’s not divert to Hillary.

Let’s talk about this thread topic.

This thread is about Trump; while the butwhatabouthillary thread is over there —>

Now that we [seemingly] agree that trump broke the law, let’s see if we can agree on an appropriate punishment, shall we?

Tit for tat buddy.

If you can call a pay off to Flowers a campaign contribution seems to me a pay off to Steele for dirt on Trump can be called a campaign contribution.
LOLOL

No worries. I consider your refusal to discuss this any further without diverting to butwhatabout_______ (fill in the name of a Democrat) as concession on your part that you’ve exhausted any and all defenses for Trump breaking the law.

:dance:

Hey nice to know you are one sided when it comes to the law.

Hope you have a good rest of the day. I sure will.
You poor thing, bless your heart. I never said I was one-sided. There are a multitude of threads about Hillary. Many of which I have participated. This is not one of them.

How sad your argument was so easily reduced to, so what that trump committed a crime, so did <name someone else>

:dance:
 
Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or
Not that. How bout you??
No, I’m not challenging that either. Now that we agree Trump’s motive was to influence the election, how can we not agree that designates it a campaign contribution?

[USC10] 52 USC Ch. 301: FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS

(8)(A) The term "contribution" includes—

(i) any gift, subscription, loan, advance, or deposit of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office; or

How in hell do you call paying that woman off a campaign contribution?? What a stupid statement.

It had nothing to do with campaign contributions.

It was a pay off to keep her and her story out of the news. Smart move on Trumps part.
I just quoted the law for you. See, you prove me 100% right when I said to WTP not long ago how rightards can’t understand the law.

Again, the law states a contribution is, ”anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office”

So let’s break that down so hopefully, your subpar intelligence can fathom the implication therein...

“anything of value.” ... Trump put a value of $130,000 on silencing Stormy Daniels.

”made by any person” ... includes Trump.

”for the purpose of influencing an election” ... even you confessed that was Trump’s intention, ”of course. Smart move on Trumps part. Pay her off and get her out of the election. I'd have done the same and so would you.” ~ Claudette

”for Federal office” ... the election trump was running in was for President of the United States, which is a Federal office.

Do you understand that law now or do I need to break out crayons?

Well seems to me the Hitlery and the DNC are guilty of the same thing.

They paid Steel and unknown amount of money for dirt in a fake dossier on Trump to influence the election.

If you can think Trump guilty then you have to think Hitlery is as well.
Keep diverting. :scared1:

:lmao:

What. The truth hurts?? What you call a diversion I call a fact.

If you consider the money paid to Stormy a campaign contribution then the money paid to Steel can be considers a campaign contribution.

Both can be considered used to influence an election.
 
Now lets talk about Hitlery and the DNC paying Steele, and ex British agent for a fake dossier on Trump.

Would you call that trying to influence an election??
LOLOLOLOL

No, let’s not divert to Hillary.

Let’s talk about this thread topic.

This thread is about Trump; while the butwhatabouthillary thread is over there —>

Now that we [seemingly] agree that trump broke the law, let’s see if we can agree on an appropriate punishment, shall we?
Now lets talk about Hitlery and the DNC paying Steele, and ex British agent for a fake dossier on Trump.

Would you call that trying to influence an election??
LOLOLOLOL

No, let’s not divert to Hillary.

Let’s talk about this thread topic.

This thread is about Trump; while the butwhatabouthillary thread is over there —>

Now that we [seemingly] agree that trump broke the law, let’s see if we can agree on an appropriate punishment, shall we?

Tit for tat buddy.

If you can call a pay off to Flowers a campaign contribution seems to me a pay off to Steele for dirt on Trump can be called a campaign contribution.
LOLOL

No worries. I consider your refusal to discuss this any further without diverting to butwhatabout_______ (fill in the name of a Democrat) as concession on your part that you’ve exhausted any and all defenses for Trump breaking the law.

:dance:

Hey nice to know you are one sided when it comes to the law.

Hope you have a good rest of the day. I sure will.
You poor thing, bless your heart. I never said I was one-sided. There are a multitude of threads about Hillary. Many of which I have participated. This is not one of them.

How sad your argument was so easily reduced to, so what that trump committed a crime, so did <name someone else>

:dance:

Well tell me the difference then. You are so smart and all.

The money paid to Stormy you say is a campaign contribution because it was used to influence an election.

Yet the money paid to Steele by Hitlery and the DNC isn't?? They weren't trying to influence an election with that fake dossier??

My my how one sided you really are.
 

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