Did President Trump violate campaign finance laws? Professor Dershowitz doesn't think so!

This crime goes straight to influencing the election. Which makes the "goon in chief" an illegal president. I said it a year and a half ago, and I was right.
 
You’re not answering the actual question...

If the reason trump bought her silence in 2016 when she was seeking to sell her story was to protect his family — why didn’t he buy her silence in 2011 when she sought to sell her story?
Having the Enquirer buy it kept him OUT of the picture....wouldn't you have someone else dirty their hands than YOU get personally involved...
The Inquirer didn’t buy Stormy Daniels’ story. And that’s whose silence trump paid for.

Stormy Daniels, in 2011, sought to sell her story. The question you’re flat out refusing to address, is....

If the reason trump bought her silence in 2016 when she was seeking to sell her story was to protect his family — why didn’t he buy her silence in 2011 when she sought to sell her story?

Why did she wait till 2011 when this happened in 2206 or 2007??

If it happened at all. Its a he said she said. No way to prove which is correct.
Your irrelevance is noted and discarded. It matters not why she waited until 2011. All that matters is that she sought to sell her story in 2011. Had trump silenced her in 2016 to protect his family, as rightards are laughably leaping to his defense, he would have silenced her in 2011.

But he didn’t. He silenced her 11 days before his election. Looking at those events in 2011 and 2016 reveal his reason for silencing Stormy Daniels.... and Melanie wasn’t it.

Oh bullshit. What does it matter when he paid her off. She was after money either with a book or a pay off. It was a smart move on his part especially before the election.

Oh and who knows if the affair ever happened? Its a he said she said and frankly most people couldn't care less.
You are beyond ignorant of the law;
Most violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA) result in civil penalties--fines arrived at through a conciliation process. Knowing and willful violations of certain FECA provisions can lead to imprisonment. The FEC has exclusive civil enforcement authority, and may refer criminal violations to the U.S. Department of Justice. For additional information see our page describing the complaint process. Note that sentencing guidelines for criminal violations of the law are set by the U.S. Sentencing Commission.
 
Undoubtedly that is when she actually wanted money.

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She wanted money in 2011 as she tried to sell her story then.

If trump silenced her to protect his family, he would have done so then. That he waited until 11 days before his election reveals his intent of the payoff.
She was paid by the Enquirer in 2011. SHE simply wanted MORE, and unlike Edward's that used campaign donors money to pay off his lover, Trump used personal money thereby taking it out of a campaign legal indictment, simply a FEC possible violation.
Cohen admitted to making these payments on behalf of the campaign. That proves the knowing and willing standard. Michael Cohen plea deal: How were campaign finance laws broken? | Atlanta: News, Weather and Traffic
Cohen can admit to anything for a PLEA DEAL in all his tax a other scandals discovered that have NOTHING to do with Trump or Russia
Su
Cohen can admit to anything for a PLEA DEAL in all his tax a other scandals discovered that have NOTHING to do with Trump or Russia


In fact, he plead to 2 things that aren't even crimes..... I would suggest that lanny davis is not working for Cohen but is actually working for hilary, obama and mueller...
LOLOL

Yes, because being a lawyer himself, and with his own neck stretched out on the chopping block, he also couldn’t tell he was being accused of a crime that wasn’t really a crime.

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They got him to plea guilty to 2 charges that weren't crimes so they could go after Trump companies..... and lanny davis negotiated that deal...you moron.
Imbecile, Cohen was the one who pled guilty, not Davis. Being an attorney himself, presumably, he knows what is and what is not a crime. You’re beyond delirious to claim he pled guilty to non-criminal charges.
I cannot get over the ignorance from these Trump apologists.
Truth be had, we feel exactly the same about you 2 digit IQ folk!
 
She was paid by the Enquirer in 2011. SHE simply wanted MORE, and unlike Edward's that used campaign donors money to pay off his lover, Trump used personal money thereby taking it out of a campaign legal indictment, simply a FEC possible violation.
You’re not answering the actual question...

If the reason trump bought her silence in 2016 when she was seeking to sell her story was to protect his family — why didn’t he buy her silence in 2011 when she sought to sell her story?
Having the Enquirer buy it kept him OUT of the picture....wouldn't you have someone else dirty their hands than YOU get personally involved...
The Inquirer didn’t buy Stormy Daniels’ story. And that’s whose silence trump paid for.

Stormy Daniels, in 2011, sought to sell her story. The question you’re flat out refusing to address, is....

If the reason trump bought her silence in 2016 when she was seeking to sell her story was to protect his family — why didn’t he buy her silence in 2011 when she sought to sell her story?
I already answered you perhaps read slower!
No, you changed the topic to the National Inquirer, which has nothing to do with Trump paying off Stormy Daniels.

But that’s ok, I knew you couldn’t provide a lucid answer to my question when I asked it.
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None of them can. They throw spaghetti up against the wall.
 
You’re not answering the actual question...

If the reason trump bought her silence in 2016 when she was seeking to sell her story was to protect his family — why didn’t he buy her silence in 2011 when she sought to sell her story?
Having the Enquirer buy it kept him OUT of the picture....wouldn't you have someone else dirty their hands than YOU get personally involved...
The Inquirer didn’t buy Stormy Daniels’ story. And that’s whose silence trump paid for.

Stormy Daniels, in 2011, sought to sell her story. The question you’re flat out refusing to address, is....

If the reason trump bought her silence in 2016 when she was seeking to sell her story was to protect his family — why didn’t he buy her silence in 2011 when she sought to sell her story?

Why did she wait till 2011 when this happened in 2206 or 2007??

If it happened at all. Its a he said she said. No way to prove which is correct.
Your irrelevance is noted and discarded. It matters not why she waited until 2011. All that matters is that she sought to sell her story in 2011. Had trump silenced her in 2016 to protect his family, as rightards are laughably leaping to his defense, he would have silenced her in 2011.

But he didn’t. He silenced her 11 days before his election. Looking at those events in 2011 and 2016 reveal his reason for silencing Stormy Daniels.... and Melanie wasn’t it.

Oh bullshit. What does it matter when he paid her off. She was after money either with a book or a pay off.

Oh and who knows if the affair ever happened? Its a he said she said and frankly most people couldn't care less.
LOLOLOL

Moron, it matters because his intentions matter. And his timing reveals his intentions.

When his family was vulnerable to learn about his affair in 2011, he did not pay off Daniels to stay quite. Clearly, protecting his family from hearing about that affair was of little, if any, importance to him.

When his campaign got rocked by the Access Hollywood video and then just 11 days out from his election, he decided that was the moment Stormy needed to be silenced.

Anyone with functioning neurons can decipher his intentions for paying Stormy Daniels $130,000 to stay quiet.
 
This crime goes straight to influencing the election. Which makes the "goon in chief" an illegal president. I said it a year and a half ago, and I was right.
Did obumas 2 million in FOREIGN DONOR MONEY that was HIDDEN, do the same? His campaign got a $300+K fine out of it....that was all!
 
Then why spend the money in 2016?
Undoubtedly that is when she actually wanted money.

Funneling cash to hide an affair? Trump, Edwards scandals have similarities - WRAL-TV
WRAL.com › funneling-cash-to...

3 days ago · Consider the parallels of Donald Trump and John Edwards. Two then- presidential candidates caught up in accusations of adultery
She wanted money in 2011 as she tried to sell her story then.

If trump silenced her to protect his family, he would have done so then. That he waited until 11 days before his election reveals his intent of the payoff.
She was paid by the Enquirer in 2011. SHE simply wanted MORE, and unlike Edward's that used campaign donors money to pay off his lover, Trump used personal money thereby taking it out of a campaign legal indictment, simply a FEC possible violation.
Cohen admitted to making these payments on behalf of the campaign. That proves the knowing and willing standard. Michael Cohen plea deal: How were campaign finance laws broken? | Atlanta: News, Weather and Traffic
Cohen can admit to anything for a PLEA DEAL in all his tax a other scandals discovered that have NOTHING to do with Trump or Russia
Correct
This is a different area of election fraud
 
She wanted money in 2011 as she tried to sell her story then.

If trump silenced her to protect his family, he would have done so then. That he waited until 11 days before his election reveals his intent of the payoff.
She was paid by the Enquirer in 2011. SHE simply wanted MORE, and unlike Edward's that used campaign donors money to pay off his lover, Trump used personal money thereby taking it out of a campaign legal indictment, simply a FEC possible violation.
Cohen admitted to making these payments on behalf of the campaign. That proves the knowing and willing standard. Michael Cohen plea deal: How were campaign finance laws broken? | Atlanta: News, Weather and Traffic
Cohen can admit to anything for a PLEA DEAL in all his tax a other scandals discovered that have NOTHING to do with Trump or Russia
Su
In fact, he plead to 2 things that aren't even crimes..... I would suggest that lanny davis is not working for Cohen but is actually working for hilary, obama and mueller...
LOLOL

Yes, because being a lawyer himself, and with his own neck stretched out on the chopping block, he also couldn’t tell he was being accused of a crime that wasn’t really a crime.

2s0blvo.jpg


They got him to plea guilty to 2 charges that weren't crimes so they could go after Trump companies..... and lanny davis negotiated that deal...you moron.
Imbecile, Cohen was the one who pled guilty, not Davis. Being an attorney himself, presumably, he knows what is and what is not a crime. You’re beyond delirious to claim he pled guilty to non-criminal charges.
I cannot get over the ignorance from these Trump apologists.
Truth be had, we feel exactly the same about you 2 digit IQ folk!
If that were true, you would have already proven us wrong. Guess what, you didn't. So where does that put you? That's right, to the back of the bus.
 
Having the Enquirer buy it kept him OUT of the picture....wouldn't you have someone else dirty their hands than YOU get personally involved...
The Inquirer didn’t buy Stormy Daniels’ story. And that’s whose silence trump paid for.

Stormy Daniels, in 2011, sought to sell her story. The question you’re flat out refusing to address, is....

If the reason trump bought her silence in 2016 when she was seeking to sell her story was to protect his family — why didn’t he buy her silence in 2011 when she sought to sell her story?

Why did she wait till 2011 when this happened in 2206 or 2007??

If it happened at all. Its a he said she said. No way to prove which is correct.
Your irrelevance is noted and discarded. It matters not why she waited until 2011. All that matters is that she sought to sell her story in 2011. Had trump silenced her in 2016 to protect his family, as rightards are laughably leaping to his defense, he would have silenced her in 2011.

But he didn’t. He silenced her 11 days before his election. Looking at those events in 2011 and 2016 reveal his reason for silencing Stormy Daniels.... and Melanie wasn’t it.

Oh bullshit. What does it matter when he paid her off. She was after money either with a book or a pay off.

Oh and who knows if the affair ever happened? Its a he said she said and frankly most people couldn't care less.
LOLOLOL

Moron, it matters because his intentions matters. And his timing reveals his intentions.

When his family was vulnerable to learn about his affair in 2011, he did not pay off Daniels to stay quite. Clearly, protecting his family from hearing about that affair was of little, if any, importance to him.

When his campaign got rocked by the Access Hollywood video and then just 11 days out from his election, he decided that was the moment Stormy needed to be silenced.

Anyone with functioning neurons can decipher his intentions for paying Stormy Daniels $130,000 to stay quiet.

LMAO She was after money and she got it.
 
Undoubtedly that is when she actually wanted money.

Funneling cash to hide an affair? Trump, Edwards scandals have similarities - WRAL-TV
WRAL.com › funneling-cash-to...

3 days ago · Consider the parallels of Donald Trump and John Edwards. Two then- presidential candidates caught up in accusations of adultery
She wanted money in 2011 as she tried to sell her story then.

If trump silenced her to protect his family, he would have done so then. That he waited until 11 days before his election reveals his intent of the payoff.
She was paid by the Enquirer in 2011. SHE simply wanted MORE, and unlike Edward's that used campaign donors money to pay off his lover, Trump used personal money thereby taking it out of a campaign legal indictment, simply a FEC possible violation.
Cohen admitted to making these payments on behalf of the campaign. That proves the knowing and willing standard. Michael Cohen plea deal: How were campaign finance laws broken? | Atlanta: News, Weather and Traffic
Cohen can admit to anything for a PLEA DEAL in all his tax a other scandals discovered that have NOTHING to do with Trump or Russia
Correct
This is a different area of election fraud
There are many types all FEC violations.
 
She was paid by the Enquirer in 2011. SHE simply wanted MORE, and unlike Edward's that used campaign donors money to pay off his lover, Trump used personal money thereby taking it out of a campaign legal indictment, simply a FEC possible violation.
Cohen admitted to making these payments on behalf of the campaign. That proves the knowing and willing standard. Michael Cohen plea deal: How were campaign finance laws broken? | Atlanta: News, Weather and Traffic
Cohen can admit to anything for a PLEA DEAL in all his tax a other scandals discovered that have NOTHING to do with Trump or Russia
Su
LOLOL

Yes, because being a lawyer himself, and with his own neck stretched out on the chopping block, he also couldn’t tell he was being accused of a crime that wasn’t really a crime.

2s0blvo.jpg


They got him to plea guilty to 2 charges that weren't crimes so they could go after Trump companies..... and lanny davis negotiated that deal...you moron.
Imbecile, Cohen was the one who pled guilty, not Davis. Being an attorney himself, presumably, he knows what is and what is not a crime. You’re beyond delirious to claim he pled guilty to non-criminal charges.
I cannot get over the ignorance from these Trump apologists.
Truth be had, we feel exactly the same about you 2 digit IQ folk!
If that were true, you would have already proven us wrong. Guess what, you didn't. So where does that put you? That's right, to the back of the bus.
Of course we did, you are too dumb to realize it!
 
This crime goes straight to influencing the election. Which makes the "goon in chief" an illegal president. I said it a year and a half ago, and I was right.
Did obumas 2 million in FOREIGN DONOR MONEY that was HIDDEN, do the same? His campaign got a $300+K fine out of it....that was all!
LOLOLOLOL

Stop diverting your own thread. :badgrin:

This isn’t about the National Inquirer. It’s not about Karen McDougal. It’s not about John Edwards and it’s not about Barack Obama.

It’s about Trump and did Trump commit a crime and Alan Dershowitz’s opinion on that. Dershowitz acknowledges it is a crime if it was an unreported campaign contribution.

And it appears it was.
 
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This crime goes straight to influencing the election. Which makes the "goon in chief" an illegal president. I said it a year and a half ago, and I was right.
Did obumas 2 million in FOREIGN DONOR MONEY that was HIDDEN, do the same? His campaign got a $300+K fine out of it....that was all!
I've been asking this forever. What donation money did he receive that was hidden, and why do you have to cowardly escape to Obama? Is it because you have run out of excuses?
 
This crime goes straight to influencing the election. Which makes the "goon in chief" an illegal president. I said it a year and a half ago, and I was right.
Did obumas 2 million in FOREIGN DONOR MONEY that was HIDDEN, do the same? His campaign got a $300+K fine out of it....that was all!
LOLOLOLOL

Stop diverting your own thread. :badgrin:

This isn’t about the National Inquirer. It’s not about Karen McDougal. It’s not about John Edwards and it’s not about Barack Obama.

It’s about Trump did Trump commit a crime and Alan Dershowitz’s opinion on that. Dershowitz acknowledges it is a crime if it was an unreported campaign contribution.

And it appears it was.
When they are on the run, they immediately go to Obama or Hillary. What a bunch of cowards.
 
The Inquirer didn’t buy Stormy Daniels’ story. And that’s whose silence trump paid for.

Stormy Daniels, in 2011, sought to sell her story. The question you’re flat out refusing to address, is....

If the reason trump bought her silence in 2016 when she was seeking to sell her story was to protect his family — why didn’t he buy her silence in 2011 when she sought to sell her story?

Why did she wait till 2011 when this happened in 2206 or 2007??

If it happened at all. Its a he said she said. No way to prove which is correct.
Your irrelevance is noted and discarded. It matters not why she waited until 2011. All that matters is that she sought to sell her story in 2011. Had trump silenced her in 2016 to protect his family, as rightards are laughably leaping to his defense, he would have silenced her in 2011.

But he didn’t. He silenced her 11 days before his election. Looking at those events in 2011 and 2016 reveal his reason for silencing Stormy Daniels.... and Melanie wasn’t it.

Oh bullshit. What does it matter when he paid her off. She was after money either with a book or a pay off.

Oh and who knows if the affair ever happened? Its a he said she said and frankly most people couldn't care less.
LOLOLOL

Moron, it matters because his intentions matters. And his timing reveals his intentions.

When his family was vulnerable to learn about his affair in 2011, he did not pay off Daniels to stay quite. Clearly, protecting his family from hearing about that affair was of little, if any, importance to him.

When his campaign got rocked by the Access Hollywood video and then just 11 days out from his election, he decided that was the moment Stormy needed to be silenced.

Anyone with functioning neurons can decipher his intentions for paying Stormy Daniels $130,000 to stay quiet.

LMAO She was after money and she got it.
Yes she did. And the timing reveals the reason she did was because Trump’s election was just 11 days out.
 
Why did she wait till 2011 when this happened in 2206 or 2007??

If it happened at all. Its a he said she said. No way to prove which is correct.
Your irrelevance is noted and discarded. It matters not why she waited until 2011. All that matters is that she sought to sell her story in 2011. Had trump silenced her in 2016 to protect his family, as rightards are laughably leaping to his defense, he would have silenced her in 2011.

But he didn’t. He silenced her 11 days before his election. Looking at those events in 2011 and 2016 reveal his reason for silencing Stormy Daniels.... and Melanie wasn’t it.

Oh bullshit. What does it matter when he paid her off. She was after money either with a book or a pay off.

Oh and who knows if the affair ever happened? Its a he said she said and frankly most people couldn't care less.
LOLOLOL

Moron, it matters because his intentions matters. And his timing reveals his intentions.

When his family was vulnerable to learn about his affair in 2011, he did not pay off Daniels to stay quite. Clearly, protecting his family from hearing about that affair was of little, if any, importance to him.

When his campaign got rocked by the Access Hollywood video and then just 11 days out from his election, he decided that was the moment Stormy needed to be silenced.

Anyone with functioning neurons can decipher his intentions for paying Stormy Daniels $130,000 to stay quiet.

LMAO She was after money and she got it.
Yes she did. And the timing reveals the reason she did was because Trump’s election was just 11 days out.

Of course. Smart move on Trumps part. Pay her off and get her out of the election. I'd have done the same and so would you.

Now did she and he have an affair?? Unknown. Its he said. She said. No one will ever know.
 
This crime goes straight to influencing the election. Which makes the "goon in chief" an illegal president. I said it a year and a half ago, and I was right.
Did obumas 2 million in FOREIGN DONOR MONEY that was HIDDEN, do the same? His campaign got a $300+K fine out of it....that was all!
LOLOLOLOL

Stop diverting your own thread. :badgrin:

This isn’t about the National Inquirer. It’s not about Karen McDougal. It’s not about John Edwards and it’s not about Barack Obama.

It’s about Trump did Trump commit a crime and Alan Dershowitz’s opinion on that. Dershowitz acknowledges it is a crime if it was an unreported campaign contribution.

And it appears it was.
And that is why Cohen knows it's a crime. He also knows it was knowing, and willful. How hard can it be for this crowd to understand that?
 
This is yet another Leftard concocted charade to distract from the successes of this president. How could a PERSONAL payment for not disclosing a PERSONAL affair even be considered "campaign finance violation"?
 
Cohen admitted to making these payments on behalf of the campaign. That proves the knowing and willing standard. Michael Cohen plea deal: How were campaign finance laws broken? | Atlanta: News, Weather and Traffic
Cohen can admit to anything for a PLEA DEAL in all his tax a other scandals discovered that have NOTHING to do with Trump or Russia
Su
They got him to plea guilty to 2 charges that weren't crimes so they could go after Trump companies..... and lanny davis negotiated that deal...you moron.
Imbecile, Cohen was the one who pled guilty, not Davis. Being an attorney himself, presumably, he knows what is and what is not a crime. You’re beyond delirious to claim he pled guilty to non-criminal charges.
I cannot get over the ignorance from these Trump apologists.
Truth be had, we feel exactly the same about you 2 digit IQ folk!
If that were true, you would have already proven us wrong. Guess what, you didn't. So where does that put you? That's right, to the back of the bus.
Of course we did, you are too dumb to realize it!
LOLOL

Well, no, you actually haven’t. Claiming you did in the face of vacuous arguments only make you appear desperate and foolish.

To recap... you claim the reason Trump paid off Stormy Daniels just 11 days before his election was to protect his family. But you failed miserably to prove that as you have no explanation for why he didn’t pay her to shut up in 2011 when she first sought to sell her story.
 
Your irrelevance is noted and discarded. It matters not why she waited until 2011. All that matters is that she sought to sell her story in 2011. Had trump silenced her in 2016 to protect his family, as rightards are laughably leaping to his defense, he would have silenced her in 2011.

But he didn’t. He silenced her 11 days before his election. Looking at those events in 2011 and 2016 reveal his reason for silencing Stormy Daniels.... and Melanie wasn’t it.

Oh bullshit. What does it matter when he paid her off. She was after money either with a book or a pay off.

Oh and who knows if the affair ever happened? Its a he said she said and frankly most people couldn't care less.
LOLOLOL

Moron, it matters because his intentions matters. And his timing reveals his intentions.

When his family was vulnerable to learn about his affair in 2011, he did not pay off Daniels to stay quite. Clearly, protecting his family from hearing about that affair was of little, if any, importance to him.

When his campaign got rocked by the Access Hollywood video and then just 11 days out from his election, he decided that was the moment Stormy needed to be silenced.

Anyone with functioning neurons can decipher his intentions for paying Stormy Daniels $130,000 to stay quiet.

LMAO She was after money and she got it.
Yes she did. And the timing reveals the reason she did was because Trump’s election was just 11 days out.

Of course. Smart move on Trumps part. Pay her off and get her out of the election. I'd have done the same and so would you.

Now did she and he have an affair?? Unknown. Its he said. She said. No one will ever know.
We will run out of rocks before we run out of ignorant people. Stop embarrassing yourself. Learn a little bit about what the law says instead of wrapping yourself around this apology tour for Trump;
Most violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA) result in civil penalties--fines arrived at through a conciliation process. Knowing and willful violations of certain FECA provisions can lead to imprisonment. The FEC has exclusive civil enforcement authority, and may refer criminal violations to the U.S. Department of Justice. For additional information see our page describing the complaint process. Note that sentencing guidelines for criminal violations of the law are set by the U.S. Sentencing Commission.
 

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