Disapproval Ratings Gone Up

[mudwhistle]

Yea yea, you were probably saying same shit when Clinton and Obama got into office as well and both did well.

Clinton became a decent president because he was a pragmatist and moved the the center.
Obama was a horrible president.
He read the Teleprompter real well tho.

 

[mudwhistle]

You are full of bullshit my man. President has no say about local and state taxes and under Obama there was a big oil production ramp up, plus Russia and OPEC price wars

Here, lets review the crude oil price record again:

If there is some sort of Trump policy effect, it's not really visible in the record...unless you want to blame Covid recession on him that is.

And the price of crude is the primary factor in the cost of gas....but not the only factor.
Fracking caused the price of crude to crater....and Democrats started catching hell from their friends in Russia. They couldn't control the amount of crude on the market anymore.
The price of gas never went over $3/ gal under Trump....and it dipped to $1.50-1.69/gal during the lock downs.

A Republican president has no say on state and local taxes.

A Democrat president has a license to steal. He can send Armies of lawyers after anyone he wants and likes using the FBI, IRS, ATF, to break into people's homes serving search warrants. A Democrat president can get away with things a Republican president will never get away with.

I also noticed a trend during the Obama Administration:
Obama simply gave a speech, known as a Dog-Whistle, to the states, telling them that it was time to start doing what he wants or else.....and they willfully complied. Obama doesn't have to directly contact them....he just gives a speech and the states and local governments start doing it.
There's no paper trail and nobody can accuse Obama of doing this....but Obama started the anti-police movement which led to Defund The Police.

The trend right now is the mass exodus from blue states like CA, NY, and NJ because of massive taxes and rising crime rates.

 

[AntonToo]

And the price of crude is the primary factor in the cost of gas....but not the only factor.
Fracking caused the price of crude to crater....and Democrats started catching hell from their friends in Russia. They couldn't control the amount of crude on the market anymore.
The price of gas never went over $3/ gal under Trump....and it dipped to $1.50-1.69/gal during the lock downs.

A Republican president has no say on state and local taxes.

A Democrat president has a license to steal. He can send Armies of lawyers after anyone he wants and likes using the FBI, IRS, ATF, to break into people's homes serving search warrants. A Democrat president can get away with things a Republican president will never get away with.

I also noticed a trend during the Obama Administration:
Obama simply gave a speech, known as a Dog-Whistle, to the states, telling them that it was time to start doing what he wants or else.....and they willfully complied. Obama doesn't have to directly contact them....he just gives a speech and the states and local governments start doing it.
There's no paper trail and nobody can accuse Obama of doing this....but Obama started the anti-police movement which led to Defund The Police.

The trend right now is the mass exodus from blue states like CA, NY, and NJ because of massive taxes and rising crime rates.

Yep, full of shit and proud of it.

Now it’s down to conspiracy theories and crediting Trump for oil not going up by a lot while he was in office.

 

[mudwhistle]

Yep, full of shit and proud of it.

Now it’s down to conspiracy theories and crediting Trump for oil not going up by a lot while he was in office.

Nope....just common sense.
Trump wasn't actively trying to bankrupt oil, gas, and coal companies like Biden and Obama did....so of course the costs of everything plateaued. Almost everything that humans do has something to do with fossil-fuels.....and punishing oil producers is going to cause a rise in prices everywhere.

Guess what they use to make plastic?
Fossil-fuels.
Guess what they use to provide most of the electricity you use to run your GD PC?
Fossil-fuels.

 

[AntonToo]

Nope....just common sense.
Trump wasn't actively trying to bankrupt oil, gas, and coal companies like Biden and Obama did....so of course the costs of everything plateaued. Almost everything that humans do has something to do with fossil-fuels.....and punishing oil producers is going to cause a rise in prices everywhere.

Guess what they use to make plastic?
Fossil-fuels.
Guess what they use to provide most of the electricity you use to run your GD PC?
Fossil-fuels.

Look, I know you will come up with a million and one rationalizations to believe whatever it is your little politico heart desires, but as a matter of factual record the only reduction in oil price during Trump’s 4 years in office was when Covid hit and everyone stopped driving.

Sorry you don’t happen to like that reality, but that’s what it is.

 

[mudwhistle]

Look, I know you will come up with a million and one rationalizations to believe whatever it is your little politico heart desires, but as a matter of factual record the only reduction in oil price during Trump’s 4 years in office was when Covid hit and everyone stopped driving.

Sorry you don’t happen to like that reality, but that’s what it is.

You're confusing oil prices and gas prices.
You need to come back to reality there bud.
Explain why we're paying more per gallon of gas today than when the crude oil price was $180/ barrel in 2008. Todays price is $80/barrel.
I can explain it...but can you?

Crude Oil Prices - 70 Year Historical Chart

Interactive charts of West Texas Intermediate (WTI or NYMEX) crude oil prices per barrel back to 1946. The price of oil shown is adjusted for inflation using the headline CPI and is shown by default on a logarithmic scale. The current month is updated on an hourly basis with today's latest value.

www.macrotrends.net

 

[Road Runner]

Speaking as a Democrat, I voted for Biden and don't regret it one bit. If you haven't noticed we're not exactly sane, have you seen what most liberals look like today? I don't mean stuffy do goods & TV, a simple observation of my people all the way around shows for most purposes we're nuts.

We like things shaken up, and Biden is just the guy to see that through. Let me know when Republicans figure out healthcare, shelter & food are a God-given right, same with Wi-Fi, and the same with Chinese stuff. We've come a LONG way with technology and it's only going to get better, and soon few of us will have to work.

You're being sarcastic right? I thought that you were a Trump supporter?

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

I would absolutely do this vs pissing away $1.2 trillion on government BS. First I'd make sure not one American citizen goes hungry in our country of plenty. Then housing. Then education and INVESTMENT in poor and working poor owned businesses to short circuit 100 years of hopeless poverty. After I got the USA squared away then we'd turn our attention to lifting up the rest of the world, funding it with success and growth vs borrowing. Look at the $30 trillion in debt that has been pissed away with little to show for it. Grow America not government.

You sound like an idealistic socialist~

Way to go to the Dark Side...LOL!

 

[BluesLegend]

You sound like an idealistic socialist~

Way to go to the Dark Side...LOL!

Now you know how a conservative thinks son.

 

[eagle1462010]

You are dodging the point. In Clinton's and Obama's first year you were saying the same crap probably.

Both Bush and Trump had historic economic contractions you are giving them full pass for. Trump in particular signed his name to almost 5 Trillion in expansionary policy, yet according to you inflation we are seeing now (with sky high stock market, solid job, wages and GDP growth) is because Biden. You are a joke.

Fuck you. I've always stated on these boards and for a very long time...........STOP RAISING THE CEILING.

I'm for FIRING ALMOST ALL FEDERAL EMPLOYEES.........A Return to the State handling their own affairs.......and the power of the Gov't Spayed and Neutered.

You are just too far up the donkeys ass......fitting symbol of the DNC..........to notice.

The 4th tier of gov't has too much power.............Fire them all for all I care. No more pork sandwiches for the politicians and business.

 

[eagle1462010]

You are full of bullshit my man. President has no say about local and state taxes and under Obama there was a big oil production ramp up, plus Russia and OPEC price wars

Here, lets review the crude oil price record again:

If there is some sort of Trump policy effect, it's not really visible in the record...unless you want to blame Covid recession on him that is.

Obama attacked oil on his watch. The oil industry told him to fuck off and went around him. He can never be given credit for squat on it. The only way they can ASSIST the production increases is by allowing permits to drill on both land and sea. Obama wasn't that guy.

Your graph is a perfect example of WHY YOU DON'T FUCKING SHUT DOWN THE WORLD FOR A VIRUS.

 

[Decus]

MSN

www.msn.com

Congress passed a $1.2 trillion infrastructure package Friday, approving a signature part of President Joe Biden's economic agenda.
It will deliver $550 billion of new federal investments in America's infrastructure over five years, touching everything from bridges and roads to the nation's broadband, water and energy systems. Experts say the money is sorely needed to ensure safe travel, as well as the efficient transport of goods and produce across the country. The nation's infrastructure system earned a C- score from the American Society of Civil Engineers earlier this year.

Here's what's in the infrastructure bill:​

Funding for roads and bridges
The bill calls for investing $110 billion for roads, bridges and major infrastructure projects. That's significantly less than the $159 billion that Biden initially requested in the American Jobs Plan.
Included is $40 billion for bridge repair, replacement and rehabilitation, according to the bill text. The White House says it would be the single, largest dedicated bridge investment since the construction of the interstate highway system, which started in the 1950s.
The deal also contains $16 billion for major projects that would be too large or complex for traditional funding programs, according to the White House.
The package would provide $39 billion to modernize public transit, according to the bill text. That's less than the $85 billion that Biden initially wanted to invest in modernizing transit systems and help them expand to meet rider demand.
The funds would repair and upgrade existing infrastructure, make stations accessible to all users, bring transit service to new communities and modernize rail and bus fleets, including replacing thousands of vehicles with zero-emission models, according to the White House.
The deal would also invest $66 billion in passenger and freight rail, according to the bill text. The funds would eliminate Amtrak's maintenance backlog, modernize the Northeast Corridor line and bring rail service to areas outside the Northeast and mid-Atlantic regions, according to the White House. Included in the package is $12 billion in partnership grants for intercity rail service, including high-speed rail.
The funding is less than the $80 billion Biden originally wanted to send to Amtrak, which he relied upon for decades to get home to Delaware from Washington, DC.
Still, it would be the largest federal investment in public transit in history and in passenger rail since the creation of Amtrak 50 years ago, according to the White House.
Broadband upgrade
The bill would provide a $65 billion investment in improving the nation's broadband infrastructure, according to the bill text. Biden initially wanted to invest $100 billion in broadband.
It also aims to help lower the price households pay for internet service by requiring federal funding recipients to offer a low-cost affordable plan, by creating price transparency and by boosting competition in areas where existing providers aren't providing adequate service. It would also create a permanent federal program to help more low-income households access the internet, according to the White House fact sheet.

Upgrading airports, ports and waterways
The deal would invest $17 billion in port infrastructure and $25 billion in airports to address repair and maintenance backlogs, reduce congestion and emissions near ports and airports and promote electrification and other low-carbon technologies, according to the White House
Electric vehicles
The bill would provide $7.5 billion for zero- and low-emission buses and ferries, aiming to deliver thousands of electric school buses to districts across the country, according to the White House.
Another $7.5 billion would go to building a nationwide network of plug-in electric vehicle chargers, according to the bill text.
Improving power and water systems
The bill would invest $65 billion to rebuild the electric grid, according to the White House. It calls for building thousands of miles of new power lines and expanding renewable energy, the White House said.
It would provide $55 billion to upgrade water infrastructure, according to the bill text. It would replace lead service lines and pipes so that communities have access to clean drinking water, the White House said.
Another $50 billion would go toward making the system more resilient -- protecting it from drought, floods and cyberattacks, the White House said.
Environmental remediation
The bill would provide $21 billion to clean up Superfund and brownfield sites, reclaim abandoned mine land and cap orphaned gas wells, according to the White House.

All the spending shown in the numbers you provided comes to about $650 billion dollars. I understood that the infrastructure bill that was passed was for $1.2 trillion dollars in spending.

Infrastructure Bill Passes House, President Praises Passage

Late on November 5, the House of Representatives passed the $1.2 trillion Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act or IIJA by a vote of 228 to 206; an effort praised by President Biden (seen above) o…

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How is the other $550 billion dollars in infrastructure spending going to be used???

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[22lcidw]

The entire globe is seeing inflation

What they are not seeing is a record stock market and massive investment in infrastructure

LETS GO BRANDON!

I like seeing the stock market go up. A lot of it is with printed dollars out the wazoo though. A lot of it is not the peasants also. Pensions in it are a good thing. As long as the market does not tank. Infrastructure in many parts of the nation is as needed as the funds for it are harder to come by. Many new or rehabbed highways have pay toll lanes or are pay highways. Social Security is getting 5.9% COLA increase and inflation is higher. Medicare Part B is going up over 14% next year. The fun is just beginning at this point.

 

[Abatis]

You keep not beeing able to understand that Biden voter's first and foremost motivation was to get Trump the hell out of office. Biden was just a vannila alternative to the non-stop chaos.

 

[toobfreak]

It's just business as usual, absent Trump. I see this as a good thing.

YEP.

• A stolen election to get into office.
• A resulting riot at the Capitol.
• Barbed wire, fences and 12,000 armed troops in the Capitol.
• Energy independence destroyed, energy costs soaring.
• Covid deaths on the rise.
• A hundred people locked up on no charges for a year with all their due process rights violated.
• The FBI used to threaten parents.
• Massive soaring illegal border crossings.
• Paying out millions to foreigners for breaking our laws.
• A totally botched Afghan exit with hundreds of Americans left behind and a terror outfit given 28 billion in military weapons.
• Empty store shelves.
• Our military being eviscerated.
• Countless ships unable to even make port to deliver goods.
• National debt rising by many trillions of dollars, little of which will improve the average person's life.
• Crime soaring. Rochester New York reports a 100% increase in gun shootings.

You think this is a good thing, bonehead? None of this would be going on at all if Trump were still running things!

 

[toobfreak]

Same as it ever was~

Fucking idiot.

 

[toobfreak]

You must be kidding....just how much bad news do you need to regret voting for Biden?....

Apparently Trump was hated for a TV interview he did 20 years ago, and the women he dated and married. And for having a few of his 500 businesses go bankrupt. And for having light blond hair.

But Joe could steer a 150-mile asteroid into hitting the Earth and the imbecile left would still be OK with that.

 

[AntonToo]

Obama attacked oil on his watch. The oil industry told him to fuck off and went around him. He can never be given credit for squat on it. The only way they can ASSIST the production increases is by allowing permits to drill on both land and sea. Obama wasn't that guy.

Your graph is a perfect example of WHY YOU DON'T FUCKING SHUT DOWN THE WORLD FOR A VIRUS.

That's a whole lot of fluff and nothing to show for it.

 

[eagle1462010]

That's a whole lot of fluff and nothing to show for it.

Yup. 2 years of wankers saying OBEY US.......and the shit is still here. Nothing to show for it.

Riddle me this. India used cheap treatments ......has 4 times our population......and less than half the deaths.

Why is that MR. OBEY ME AND GOV'T.........hmmmm

Our gov't Sucks on this. PERIOD.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Yup. 2 years of wankers saying OBEY US.......and the shit is still here. Nothing to show for it.

Riddle me this. India used cheap treatments ......has 4 times our population......and less than half the deaths.

Why is that MR. OBEY ME AND GOV'T.........hmmmm

Our gov't Sucks on this. PERIOD.

No one knows how many died in India..and they never will.

But you can believe that it is many times what the official number is~