Disgusting Trump strikes again

[bripat9643]

You and your wife are so exited. She is pregnant & you both look forward to having a child. Somewhere along that 9 month path, you learn there are medical issues with the fetus. to such severity that the infant may not be able to survive. The time comes and the baby is born. It has deformities and problems and the doctors say it will not live and there nothing that can be done.

The parents are devastated. They are in anguish as they decide to let their baby go peacefully.Much like taking a loved one off life support or signing a DNR.

Can you think of a more painful situation for those parents?

Then along comes Donald Trump who says this at a rally: “The baby is born, the mother meets with the doctor, they take care of the baby, they wrap the baby beautifully, and then the doctor and the mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby.” (Trump: After Birth, Baby Is “Wrapped” in a Blanket and Mother, Doctor Decide Whether to “Execute the Baby”) Obviously distorting (lying about) statements made by the Gov of Virginia , Ralph Northam.

Trump calls these saddened & devastated parents executioners. Murderers.

Norhham was talking about cases where the newborn baby is not viable, has no possibility of survival. Current A law says that decision is up to the doctors & parents. Gov. Northan is a pediatric neurologist. He knows about these situations.

So, why hasn't a single Trumpette here come out against this? Why will all the Trumpettes respond & call me a liar? Will one of then come out against this Trump statement?

It's not Trump who is disgusting. The governor of Virginia actually said what Trump accused him of saying. He didn't mention anything about "cases where the newborn baby is not viable," whatever that means.

I posted a link, assdfuck. Look it up. If you don't like that link, so some research.

You are reading the Republican version that left out that part

You posted a link to the claims of a leftwing douchebag, not to what the governor said.

 

[WillPower]

The OP is now known as "Assfuck Dave", a champion of gay rights and catching.

Yep., I am not a bigoted fuck like you.

Here ya go....remember this conversation with Cecilie1200, AFD?

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is now the Big Boss of the Democrat Party

 

[BlindBoo]

Well of course he's a lying piece of shit. Hospitals are not allow to ignore, abandon, any child born, (or anyone) much less euthanize even the most severely deformed infant. Parents can refuse extraordinary life support if they choose but ordinary care must be given to the new born.

Whats the difference you ask?

Ordinary vs. Extraordinary Care - American Life League

 

[SmokeALib]

Abortion up to age two.

Pro-abortion college student argues for infanticide of 2-year-olds

Abortion up to age five. One professor suggested six would be an acceptable age.

Some College Students Approve of ‘After-Birth Abortion’… Up to Age 5

You can't abort a baby. It is already been born.

Yet you advocate killing them.

So when we take people off life support, we are killing them? Executing them? Murdering them,?

I think that’s a straw man. Maybe. Huge difference. Here in Houston a kid was borne without a throat. Literally, he was borne without a throat, and no skin from his chin to his sternum. Hopeless case. Here is another child borne without skin as well, read this,


Doctors say promising news for baby born without skin



There is hope," explains Priscilla Maldonado, Ja’bari’s mother. "They said they promise, they give us their word, they will not give up on Ja'bari."

Ja'bari's parents say the four physicians are now planning to do surgery on the three-month-old child to open his airway, in hopes of removing him from life support and having him breathe on his own.

"They're going to make an incision on his throat and they're going to be very careful, because there are a lot of veins, nerves, arteries," describes Maldonado. "So it's going to be a risky procedure, but they're willing to take the chance.”


You would have this child killed. Your straw man is comparing to take adults off life support. People who are basically brain dead. There’s 80 years of potential in that young child. That kid could cure cancer. That kid could be an EMT that saves your life when you have a heart attack. Point is, there is a huge potential return in saving that kids life, not to mention that’s it’s kind of the whole point of being a doctor.

Another case where help was available.

We are taling about kids born with no hope.

There is always hope. And faith. Democrats don't have the mental fortitude to understand that.

 

[Hale]

You and your wife are so exited. She is pregnant & you both look forward to having a child. Somewhere along that 9 month path, you learn there are medical issues with the fetus. to such severity that the infant may not be able to survive. The time comes and the baby is born. It has deformities and problems and the doctors say it will not live and there nothing that can be done.
The parents are devastated. They are in anguish as they decide to let their baby go peacefully.Much like taking a loved one off life support or signing a DNR.
Can you think of a more painful situation for those parents?
Then along comes Donald Trump who says this at a rally: “The baby is born, the mother meets with the doctor, they take care of the baby, they wrap the baby beautifully, and then the doctor and the mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby.” (Trump: After Birth, Baby Is “Wrapped” in a Blanket and Mother, Doctor Decide Whether to “Execute the Baby”) Obviously distorting (lying about) statements made by the Gov of Virginia , Ralph Northam.
Trump calls these saddened & devastated parents executioners. Murderers.
Norhham was talking about cases where the newborn baby is not viable, has no possibility of survival. Current A law says that decision is up to the doctors & parents. Gov. Northan is a pediatric neurologist. He knows about these situations.
So, why hasn't a single Trumpette here come out against this? Why will all the Trumpettes respond & call me a liar? Will one of then come out against this Trump statement?

But the parents choose not to kill the baby, and the doctors are proven wrong - he does survive. They have made the right choice...

As time passes, it becomes apparent that the boy is severely retarded. His parents are faced with another choice: They can follow the advice of Conservatives, and educate the boy in a manner that admits his shortcomings and offers him a useful happy future, or they can follow the Liberal Progressives, who insist that the child is just "different" and place him in modern liberal education. They choose the latter.

Years pass, and the boy accumulates hundreds of participation trophies and eventually a high school diploma he didn't earn. His parents (long since divorced) can't afford to send him to the college they think he deserves. But once again he is saved by the Progressives, and receives grants of taxpayer's money and loans he can't pay back. He graduates college with a degree in LGBT Studies (and a minor in Marxian Theology) and seeks employment.

No one will hire him, so he continues to live in his mother's basement. He spends his days eating Doritos, playing Halo, drinking beer, surfing the net, and masturbating. Eventually he finds a political forum, and begins posting utterly insane threads.

And so he is finally provided with a sense of worth, and now spends his days preaching his gospel and feeling superior.

Yes - that boy is RealDave

Funny how a retarded boy is kicking your ass here on USB.

You just keep thinking that, AFD. You're proving my story true.

 

[RealDave]

You and your wife are so exited. She is pregnant & you both look forward to having a child. Somewhere along that 9 month path, you learn there are medical issues with the fetus. to such severity that the infant may not be able to survive. The time comes and the baby is born. It has deformities and problems and the doctors say it will not live and there nothing that can be done.

The parents are devastated. They are in anguish as they decide to let their baby go peacefully.Much like taking a loved one off life support or signing a DNR.

Can you think of a more painful situation for those parents?

Then along comes Donald Trump who says this at a rally: “The baby is born, the mother meets with the doctor, they take care of the baby, they wrap the baby beautifully, and then the doctor and the mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby.” (Trump: After Birth, Baby Is “Wrapped” in a Blanket and Mother, Doctor Decide Whether to “Execute the Baby”) Obviously distorting (lying about) statements made by the Gov of Virginia , Ralph Northam.

Trump calls these saddened & devastated parents executioners. Murderers.

Norhham was talking about cases where the newborn baby is not viable, has no possibility of survival. Current A law says that decision is up to the doctors & parents. Gov. Northan is a pediatric neurologist. He knows about these situations.

So, why hasn't a single Trumpette here come out against this? Why will all the Trumpettes respond & call me a liar? Will one of then come out against this Trump statement?

It's not Trump who is disgusting. The governor of Virginia actually said what Trump accused him of saying. He didn't mention anything about "cases where the newborn baby is not viable," whatever that means.

I posted a link, assdfuck. Look it up. If you don't like that link, so some research.

You are reading the Republican version that left out that part

You posted a link to the claims of a leftwing douchebag, not to what the governor said.

This from a Fox News Station: "
Northam told Washington radio station WTOP in January: "[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that's nonviable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen."

"The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam, a pediatric neurosurgeon, said."
Trump lies about abortion at Wisconsin rally
Northam told Washington radio station WTOP in January: "[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that's nonviable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen."

"The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam, a pediatric neurosurgeon, said.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Abortion up to age two.

Pro-abortion college student argues for infanticide of 2-year-olds

Abortion up to age five. One professor suggested six would be an acceptable age.

Some College Students Approve of ‘After-Birth Abortion’… Up to Age 5

You can't abort a baby. It is already been born.

Yet you advocate killing them.

So when we take people off life support, we are killing them? Executing them? Murdering them,?

I think that’s a straw man. Maybe. Huge difference. Here in Houston a kid was borne without a throat. Literally, he was borne without a throat, and no skin from his chin to his sternum. Hopeless case. Here is another child borne without skin as well, read this,


Doctors say promising news for baby born without skin



There is hope," explains Priscilla Maldonado, Ja’bari’s mother. "They said they promise, they give us their word, they will not give up on Ja'bari."

Ja'bari's parents say the four physicians are now planning to do surgery on the three-month-old child to open his airway, in hopes of removing him from life support and having him breathe on his own.

"They're going to make an incision on his throat and they're going to be very careful, because there are a lot of veins, nerves, arteries," describes Maldonado. "So it's going to be a risky procedure, but they're willing to take the chance.”


You would have this child killed. Your straw man is comparing to take adults off life support. People who are basically brain dead. There’s 80 years of potential in that young child. That kid could cure cancer. That kid could be an EMT that saves your life when you have a heart attack. Point is, there is a huge potential return in saving that kids life, not to mention that’s it’s kind of the whole point of being a doctor.

Another case where help was available.

We are taling about kids born with no hope.

See that's the problem....you're full of shit....there is always hope
You made a statement, I had a personal story that destroys your statement........they said she had a 1-2% chance to live past the first week.........you cant get much lower.....and she is living.......
But you still haven't answered my questions
Other than abortion, what are you pro choice on?

 

[WillPower]

Well of course he's a lying piece of shit. Hospitals are not allow to ignore, abandon, any child born, (or anyone) much less euthanize even the most severely deformed infant. Parents can refuse extraordinary life support if they choose but ordinary care must be given to the new born.

Whats the difference you ask?

Ordinary vs. Extraordinary Care - American Life League

Do you live in a cave? (not that there's anything wrong with that)....Google what the former pediatric physician, now Governor of Virginia said.....he's murdered viable babies and the commiecrat party and drive-by media couldn't care less.

 

[BlindBoo]

You and your wife are so exited. She is pregnant & you both look forward to having a child. Somewhere along that 9 month path, you learn there are medical issues with the fetus. to such severity that the infant may not be able to survive. The time comes and the baby is born. It has deformities and problems and the doctors say it will not live and there nothing that can be done.

The parents are devastated. They are in anguish as they decide to let their baby go peacefully.Much like taking a loved one off life support or signing a DNR.

Can you think of a more painful situation for those parents?

Then along comes Donald Trump who says this at a rally: “The baby is born, the mother meets with the doctor, they take care of the baby, they wrap the baby beautifully, and then the doctor and the mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby.” (Trump: After Birth, Baby Is “Wrapped” in a Blanket and Mother, Doctor Decide Whether to “Execute the Baby”) Obviously distorting (lying about) statements made by the Gov of Virginia , Ralph Northam.

Trump calls these saddened & devastated parents executioners. Murderers.

Norhham was talking about cases where the newborn baby is not viable, has no possibility of survival. Current A law says that decision is up to the doctors & parents. Gov. Northan is a pediatric neurologist. He knows about these situations.

So, why hasn't a single Trumpette here come out against this? Why will all the Trumpettes respond & call me a liar? Will one of then come out against this Trump statement?

Norhham was talking about cases where the newborn baby is not viable, has no possibility of survival.

No he was not. He said the baby would be made comfortable. Comfortable is viable, moron.

The Governor didn't say what the conversation with the parents would involve. Obviously leaving that conversation open to people's vivid imagination was an opening for the false narrative crowd to insinuate that they would naturally only talk about how to kill it (because all democrats are like Mrs. Garrison)

In reality, ask your doctor what that conversation would be about. They will tell you it depends on the condition.....

You see Doctor are a lot smarter than Trumpybear, they know the laws. They cannot deny ordinary care to anyone including severely deformed infants.

 

[RealDave]

On his site there is a link to the entire segment of what Governor Northam said. Click thre link & listen for yourself.

fox News lied about this. Trump lied about this.

Va. Gov. Northam draws outrage from GOP for defending abortion bill | WTOP

 

[buckeye45_73]

You and your wife are so exited. She is pregnant & you both look forward to having a child. Somewhere along that 9 month path, you learn there are medical issues with the fetus. to such severity that the infant may not be able to survive. The time comes and the baby is born. It has deformities and problems and the doctors say it will not live and there nothing that can be done.

The parents are devastated. They are in anguish as they decide to let their baby go peacefully.Much like taking a loved one off life support or signing a DNR.

Can you think of a more painful situation for those parents?

Then along comes Donald Trump who says this at a rally: “The baby is born, the mother meets with the doctor, they take care of the baby, they wrap the baby beautifully, and then the doctor and the mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby.” (Trump: After Birth, Baby Is “Wrapped” in a Blanket and Mother, Doctor Decide Whether to “Execute the Baby”) Obviously distorting (lying about) statements made by the Gov of Virginia , Ralph Northam.

Trump calls these saddened & devastated parents executioners. Murderers.

Norhham was talking about cases where the newborn baby is not viable, has no possibility of survival. Current A law says that decision is up to the doctors & parents. Gov. Northan is a pediatric neurologist. He knows about these situations.

So, why hasn't a single Trumpette here come out against this? Why will all the Trumpettes respond & call me a liar? Will one of then come out against this Trump statement?

It's not Trump who is disgusting. The governor of Virginia actually said what Trump accused him of saying. He didn't mention anything about "cases where the newborn baby is not viable," whatever that means.

I posted a link, assdfuck. Look it up. If you don't like that link, so some research.

You are reading the Republican version that left out that part

You posted a link to the claims of a leftwing douchebag, not to what the governor said.

This from a Fox News Station: "
Northam told Washington radio station WTOP in January: "[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that's nonviable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen."

"The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam, a pediatric neurosurgeon, said."
Trump lies about abortion at Wisconsin rally
Northam told Washington radio station WTOP in January: "[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that's nonviable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen."

"The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam, a pediatric neurosurgeon, said.

"The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother,"

Explain this statement? The infant would be resuscitated? Why? if he/she's going to die, why do that? It seems cruel

See the problem is that this statement shows exactly what Trump said.......if the baby will die anyway, what is the discussion between parents (why are dads not included in this?) and doctor? Are they discussing a tee time?

 

[RealDave]

Well of course he's a lying piece of shit. Hospitals are not allow to ignore, abandon, any child born, (or anyone) much less euthanize even the most severely deformed infant. Parents can refuse extraordinary life support if they choose but ordinary care must be given to the new born.

Whats the difference you ask?

Ordinary vs. Extraordinary Care - American Life League

Do you live in a cave? (not that there's anything wrong with that)....Google what the former pediatric physician, now Governor of Virginia said.....he's murdered viable babies and the commiecrat party and drive-by media couldn't care less.

I just posted a link. Click it & listen to the actual audio. I'll await your apology.

 

[BlindBoo]

Well of course he's a lying piece of shit. Hospitals are not allow to ignore, abandon, any child born, (or anyone) much less euthanize even the most severely deformed infant. Parents can refuse extraordinary life support if they choose but ordinary care must be given to the new born.

Whats the difference you ask?

Ordinary vs. Extraordinary Care - American Life League

Do you live in a cave? (not that there's anything wrong with that)....Google what the former pediatric physician, now Governor of Virginia said.....he's murdered viable babies and the commiecrat party and drive-by media couldn't care less.

I don't believe you. Got a real quote from the Gov?

 

[BlindBoo]

You and your wife are so exited. She is pregnant & you both look forward to having a child. Somewhere along that 9 month path, you learn there are medical issues with the fetus. to such severity that the infant may not be able to survive. The time comes and the baby is born. It has deformities and problems and the doctors say it will not live and there nothing that can be done.

The parents are devastated. They are in anguish as they decide to let their baby go peacefully.Much like taking a loved one off life support or signing a DNR.

Can you think of a more painful situation for those parents?

Then along comes Donald Trump who says this at a rally: “The baby is born, the mother meets with the doctor, they take care of the baby, they wrap the baby beautifully, and then the doctor and the mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby.” (Trump: After Birth, Baby Is “Wrapped” in a Blanket and Mother, Doctor Decide Whether to “Execute the Baby”) Obviously distorting (lying about) statements made by the Gov of Virginia , Ralph Northam.

Trump calls these saddened & devastated parents executioners. Murderers.

Norhham was talking about cases where the newborn baby is not viable, has no possibility of survival. Current A law says that decision is up to the doctors & parents. Gov. Northan is a pediatric neurologist. He knows about these situations.

So, why hasn't a single Trumpette here come out against this? Why will all the Trumpettes respond & call me a liar? Will one of then come out against this Trump statement?

It's not Trump who is disgusting. The governor of Virginia actually said what Trump accused him of saying. He didn't mention anything about "cases where the newborn baby is not viable," whatever that means.

I posted a link, assdfuck. Look it up. If you don't like that link, so some research.

You are reading the Republican version that left out that part

You posted a link to the claims of a leftwing douchebag, not to what the governor said.

This from a Fox News Station: "
Northam told Washington radio station WTOP in January: "[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that's nonviable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen."

"The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam, a pediatric neurosurgeon, said."
Trump lies about abortion at Wisconsin rally
Northam told Washington radio station WTOP in January: "[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that's nonviable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen."

"The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam, a pediatric neurosurgeon, said.

"The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother,"

Explain this statement? The infant would be resuscitated? Why? if he/she's going to die, why do that? It seems cruel

See the problem is that this statement shows exactly what Trump said.......if the baby will die anyway, what is the discussion between parents (why are dads not included in this?) and doctor? Are they discussing a tee time?

If you don't know the prognosis, how can you determine what the conversation with the parent would be about? They (doctors, hospitals) are required to give ordinary care.

Here.

Ordinary vs. Extraordinary Care - American Life League

 

[WillPower]

I don't believe you. Got a real quote from the Gov?

I don't run errands for anybody, especially the willfully ignorant......easy to find, even for you.

 

[RealDave]

You and your wife are so exited. She is pregnant & you both look forward to having a child. Somewhere along that 9 month path, you learn there are medical issues with the fetus. to such severity that the infant may not be able to survive. The time comes and the baby is born. It has deformities and problems and the doctors say it will not live and there nothing that can be done.

The parents are devastated. They are in anguish as they decide to let their baby go peacefully.Much like taking a loved one off life support or signing a DNR.

Can you think of a more painful situation for those parents?

Then along comes Donald Trump who says this at a rally: “The baby is born, the mother meets with the doctor, they take care of the baby, they wrap the baby beautifully, and then the doctor and the mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby.” (Trump: After Birth, Baby Is “Wrapped” in a Blanket and Mother, Doctor Decide Whether to “Execute the Baby”) Obviously distorting (lying about) statements made by the Gov of Virginia , Ralph Northam.

Trump calls these saddened & devastated parents executioners. Murderers.

Norhham was talking about cases where the newborn baby is not viable, has no possibility of survival. Current A law says that decision is up to the doctors & parents. Gov. Northan is a pediatric neurologist. He knows about these situations.

So, why hasn't a single Trumpette here come out against this? Why will all the Trumpettes respond & call me a liar? Will one of then come out against this Trump statement?

It's not Trump who is disgusting. The governor of Virginia actually said what Trump accused him of saying. He didn't mention anything about "cases where the newborn baby is not viable," whatever that means.

I posted a link, assdfuck. Look it up. If you don't like that link, so some research.

You are reading the Republican version that left out that part

You posted a link to the claims of a leftwing douchebag, not to what the governor said.

This from a Fox News Station: "
Northam told Washington radio station WTOP in January: "[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that's nonviable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen."

"The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam, a pediatric neurosurgeon, said."
Trump lies about abortion at Wisconsin rally
Northam told Washington radio station WTOP in January: "[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that's nonviable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen."

"The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam, a pediatric neurosurgeon, said.

"The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother,"

Explain this statement? The infant would be resuscitated? Why? if he/she's going to die, why do that? It seems cruel

See the problem is that this statement shows exactly what Trump said.......if the baby will die anyway, what is the discussion between parents (why are dads not included in this?) and doctor? Are they discussing a tee time?

Reading is not your friend. The decision would be the doctor & parents. If the parents wanted, doctors would work on keeping the baby alive as long as possible even though there is no hope of life.

You are such an ass. They are discussing whether to put their dying baby though the motions.

You really need to go fuck yourself.

A crooked, non caring doctor would want to keep running up the costs. You people make me sick.

 

[WillPower]

I just posted a link. Click it & listen to the actual audio. I'll await your apology.

I heard it when he said it, AFD....and your spin is getting you nowhere but dizzier....you're easily the angriest poster on USMB.....I bet your BP is somewhere in the 200/110 range....don't stroke out trying to defend the indefensible.

 

[buckeye45_73]

It's not Trump who is disgusting. The governor of Virginia actually said what Trump accused him of saying. He didn't mention anything about "cases where the newborn baby is not viable," whatever that means.

I posted a link, assdfuck. Look it up. If you don't like that link, so some research.

You are reading the Republican version that left out that part

You posted a link to the claims of a leftwing douchebag, not to what the governor said.

This from a Fox News Station: "
Northam told Washington radio station WTOP in January: "[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that's nonviable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen."

"The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam, a pediatric neurosurgeon, said."
Trump lies about abortion at Wisconsin rally
Northam told Washington radio station WTOP in January: "[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that's nonviable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen."

"The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam, a pediatric neurosurgeon, said.

"The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother,"

Explain this statement? The infant would be resuscitated? Why? if he/she's going to die, why do that? It seems cruel

See the problem is that this statement shows exactly what Trump said.......if the baby will die anyway, what is the discussion between parents (why are dads not included in this?) and doctor? Are they discussing a tee time?

Reading is not your friend. The decision would be the doctor & parents. If the parents wanted, doctors would work on keeping the baby alive as long as possible even though there is no hope of life.

You are such an ass. They are discussing whether to put their dying baby though the motions.

You really need to go fuck yourself.

A crooked, non caring doctor would want to keep running up the costs. You people make me sick.

Oh please, you're the one using this rare scenario to justify you fucking horrific position on "Choice" aka abortion.......you're the sick one.
Yeah I mocked your bullshit reading of that last quote of his, because it's fucking stupid and anyone with a brain can figure it out.

What does no hope of life mean? If there is no hope of life why are they having that discussion?
See the problem is I know personally the no hope of life.....yet there was hope and life......

 

[BlindBoo]

I don't believe you. Got a real quote from the Gov?

I don't run errands for anybody, especially the willfully ignorant......easy to find, even for you.

Your synopsis of the Gov.'s conversation is contrary to known reality.

 

[Crixus]

You can't abort a baby. It is already been born.

Yet you advocate killing them.

So when we take people off life support, we are killing them? Executing them? Murdering them,?

I think that’s a straw man. Maybe. Huge difference. Here in Houston a kid was borne without a throat. Literally, he was borne without a throat, and no skin from his chin to his sternum. Hopeless case. Here is another child borne without skin as well, read this,


Doctors say promising news for baby born without skin



There is hope," explains Priscilla Maldonado, Ja’bari’s mother. "They said they promise, they give us their word, they will not give up on Ja'bari."

Ja'bari's parents say the four physicians are now planning to do surgery on the three-month-old child to open his airway, in hopes of removing him from life support and having him breathe on his own.

"They're going to make an incision on his throat and they're going to be very careful, because there are a lot of veins, nerves, arteries," describes Maldonado. "So it's going to be a risky procedure, but they're willing to take the chance.”


You would have this child killed. Your straw man is comparing to take adults off life support. People who are basically brain dead. There’s 80 years of potential in that young child. That kid could cure cancer. That kid could be an EMT that saves your life when you have a heart attack. Point is, there is a huge potential return in saving that kids life, not to mention that’s it’s kind of the whole point of being a doctor.

Another case where help was available.

We are taling about kids born with no hope.

See that's the problem....you're full of shit....there is always hope
You made a statement, I had a personal story that destroys your statement........they said she had a 1-2% chance to live past the first week.........you cant get much lower.....and she is living.......
But you still haven't answered my questions
Other than abortion, what are you pro choice on?

Good question. The only answers are talking points. They learn it from the news.