Disney threatens to stop filming in Georgia if anti-gay bill becomes law

[Katzndogz]

Imagine what liberals would think if the Westboro Baptist Church came into the bakery and ordered a cake that said, "God hates fags" on top.

And if the bakery said, I can't do that, putting that message on a cake violates my conscience based on my religious belief that God doesn't hate fags.

Westboro Baptist Church Home Page

Liberals would be singing a very different tune, wouldn't they?

First of all, almost everyone hates the Westboro Baptists.

Second of all, what someone cries about or whines about is irrelevant. Follow the law, be prepared to accept the punishment for breaking the law, or try to change the law. That is it. Those are your choices. There are laws that businesses open to the public musty follow.

And those laws are followed.

There are legal methods of protest. They should be used.

 

[aris2chat]

Once again, why is it so horrible to bake a cake for a gay wedding, but somehow acceptable to bake one for a Hindu or Pagan wedding?

Being hindu or pagan is not a sin. Gays can buy any cake they want. The sin is not baking the cake. It is participating in the perversion.

Following another God is most certainly a sin. In fact, it is listed as #1 in the 10 Commandments.

What about grocery stores that sell food to gays? It is the homosexuality itself that is supposedly the sin. Aren't the grocers supporting homosexuality?

What about the power company, cable company and phone companies? If selling a wedding cake is "supporting" gays, then isn't providing electricity, cable and phone service to gays also a sin?

Selling food, selling cakes, cookies and flowers to gays is not a sin. Participating in a gay wedding is a sin. It is not a commentary on someone's life choices. It is a personal sin. It is the same as forcing someone to look at kiddie porn. It is strongarming an innocent person to commit a violation of their soul.

So it is not about them being gay. It is about the actual marriage ceremony? Any Biblical reference to go with that claim?

It is about the personal belief of the believer that participating in sin makes them as much of a sinner as those welcoming the wrongful conduct.

personal belief does not mean shove it in the face of everyone who does not share the exact same beliefs and pass laws against others just for being the way god made them

 

[Katzndogz]

The only thing Christian bakers want is that they are not forced at gun point to bake a cake for a same-sex wedding. Why is that unreasonable? Why can't you people bend for that one accommodation of a Christian's whose conscience won't allow him/her to bake a same-sex wedding cake.

If the military can accommodate people who don't want to fight and kill because their religion is against killing, why can't you liberals allow this?

It doesn't make sense how totally ruthless you are being oppressing Christians.

the bakers are paid to make cakes not make judgement about the people being married.
"Oh, we can't make cakes for bi-racial, bi-religious couples or for religions other than my own, or for couples from other states....."

The bakers are not judging anyone but themselves and refusing to commit a sin. Attending a gay wedding is a sin to them. It's like forcing them to watch kiddie porn.

Why not make wine for a wedding, a la Jesus, instead of saying what is and is not a sin as if they are god

Wouldn't it be the pip if god was actually gay and Mary was artificially inseminated, oh,wait she was

Because they are not judging what is a sin for anyone but themselves. It's like someone who refuses to have sex with a German Shepherd. It's a sin. In Florida it isn't even a crime. Should they be forced into fucking the dog just because a pervert wants to watch?

 

[Katzndogz]

Being hindu or pagan is not a sin. Gays can buy any cake they want. The sin is not baking the cake. It is participating in the perversion.

Following another God is most certainly a sin. In fact, it is listed as #1 in the 10 Commandments.

What about grocery stores that sell food to gays? It is the homosexuality itself that is supposedly the sin. Aren't the grocers supporting homosexuality?

What about the power company, cable company and phone companies? If selling a wedding cake is "supporting" gays, then isn't providing electricity, cable and phone service to gays also a sin?

Selling food, selling cakes, cookies and flowers to gays is not a sin. Participating in a gay wedding is a sin. It is not a commentary on someone's life choices. It is a personal sin. It is the same as forcing someone to look at kiddie porn. It is strongarming an innocent person to commit a violation of their soul.

So it is not about them being gay. It is about the actual marriage ceremony? Any Biblical reference to go with that claim?

It is about the personal belief of the believer that participating in sin makes them as much of a sinner as those welcoming the wrongful conduct.

personal belief does not mean shove it in the face of everyone who does not share the exact same beliefs and pass laws against others just for being the way god made them

God made serial killers too. Should we not have laws against murder?

Personal belief means I do not have to give you a voyeuristic thrill.

 

[WinterBorn]

Once again, why is it so horrible to bake a cake for a gay wedding, but somehow acceptable to bake one for a Hindu or Pagan wedding?

Being hindu or pagan is not a sin. Gays can buy any cake they want. The sin is not baking the cake. It is participating in the perversion.

Following another God is most certainly a sin. In fact, it is listed as #1 in the 10 Commandments.

What about grocery stores that sell food to gays? It is the homosexuality itself that is supposedly the sin. Aren't the grocers supporting homosexuality?

What about the power company, cable company and phone companies? If selling a wedding cake is "supporting" gays, then isn't providing electricity, cable and phone service to gays also a sin?

Selling food, selling cakes, cookies and flowers to gays is not a sin. Participating in a gay wedding is a sin. It is not a commentary on someone's life choices. It is a personal sin. It is the same as forcing someone to look at kiddie porn. It is strongarming an innocent person to commit a violation of their soul.

So it is not about them being gay. It is about the actual marriage ceremony? Any Biblical reference to go with that claim?

It is about the personal belief of the believer that participating in sin makes them as much of a sinner as those welcoming the wrongful conduct.

But the sin is not being gay? It is two gays marrying? And they think selling the couple a cake or flowers makes then as much of a sinner and the people getting married?? I would say those people are too stupid to be in business for themselves.

Unless it is about the love of money. They are, after all, making a profit off of weddings between atheists, buddhists, hindu, pagans, ect ect.

 

[aris2chat]

The only thing Christian bakers want is that they are not forced at gun point to bake a cake for a same-sex wedding. Why is that unreasonable? Why can't you people bend for that one accommodation of a Christian's whose conscience won't allow him/her to bake a same-sex wedding cake.

If the military can accommodate people who don't want to fight and kill because their religion is against killing, why can't you liberals allow this?

It doesn't make sense how totally ruthless you are being oppressing Christians.

the bakers are paid to make cakes not make judgement about the people being married.
"Oh, we can't make cakes for bi-racial, bi-religious couples or for religions other than my own, or for couples from other states....."

The bakers are not judging anyone but themselves and refusing to commit a sin. Attending a gay wedding is a sin to them. It's like forcing them to watch kiddie porn.

Once again, why is it so horrible to bake a cake for a gay wedding, but somehow acceptable to bake one for a Hindu or Pagan wedding?

Being hindu or pagan is not a sin. Gays can buy any cake they want. The sin is not baking the cake. It is participating in the perversion.

bake the cake but apologize and say you have another appointment or deadline or a family necessity...

No one is asking them to officiate the wedding and sign the certificate, just do what they are paid for, bake and deliver. Maybe the meal is not even at the place where they wedding was to take place so they can't say they had to attend the wedding. Many people rent separate halls.

Bakers are paid to cook, not judge sins

 

[WinterBorn]

This will only be relevant for a short time. Gov. Deal is not going to sign this bill into law.

 

[aris2chat]

Following another God is most certainly a sin. In fact, it is listed as #1 in the 10 Commandments.

What about grocery stores that sell food to gays? It is the homosexuality itself that is supposedly the sin. Aren't the grocers supporting homosexuality?

What about the power company, cable company and phone companies? If selling a wedding cake is "supporting" gays, then isn't providing electricity, cable and phone service to gays also a sin?

Selling food, selling cakes, cookies and flowers to gays is not a sin. Participating in a gay wedding is a sin. It is not a commentary on someone's life choices. It is a personal sin. It is the same as forcing someone to look at kiddie porn. It is strongarming an innocent person to commit a violation of their soul.

So it is not about them being gay. It is about the actual marriage ceremony? Any Biblical reference to go with that claim?

It is about the personal belief of the believer that participating in sin makes them as much of a sinner as those welcoming the wrongful conduct.

personal belief does not mean shove it in the face of everyone who does not share the exact same beliefs and pass laws against others just for being the way god made them

God made serial killers too. Should we not have laws against murder?

Personal belief means I do not have to give you a voyeuristic thrill.

the individuals became murders, they were not born to be, unless they were born with irregular brains that made impossible to understand right from in a moral or legal sense.

What of the child who touches daddy's gun that was left out and shoots mommy? He was born to murder?

Laws are legal dictates by the state, not religious. A crime is a crime whether the person is hindu, christians or athiest. A sin is a religious judgement, not by man but by god, and not the same for all religions.





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[WorldWatcher]

The bakers are not judging anyone but themselves and refusing to commit a sin. Attending a gay wedding is a sin to them. It's like forcing them to watch kiddie porn.

#1 When you quote Leviticus and it says that homosexuals should be put to death, ya you are judging them.

#2 Baking a cake is not a sin, they bake wedding cakes all the time. They even sell cakes to divorcees (which except in very narrow circumstances is viewed as a sin) and interracial couples (which man viewed as a sin and used religion to justify discrimination).

#3 I've never seen a baker attend the wedding as part of a wedding cake order. They deliver the cake to the reception and then normally leave before the reception even starts. The "wedding" is over by the time people go to the reception. I've seen bakers attended weddings, but they were there as invited guests not as the maker of the cake.


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[WorldWatcher]

Being hindu or pagan is not a sin. Gays can buy any cake they want. The sin is not baking the cake. It is participating in the perversion.

I've never seen a baker have to participate in a three-way with the couple. Any couple heterosexual or homosexual.


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[aris2chat]

The only thing Christian bakers want is that they are not forced at gun point to bake a cake for a same-sex wedding. Why is that unreasonable? Why can't you people bend for that one accommodation of a Christian's whose conscience won't allow him/her to bake a same-sex wedding cake.

If the military can accommodate people who don't want to fight and kill because their religion is against killing, why can't you liberals allow this?

It doesn't make sense how totally ruthless you are being oppressing Christians.

the bakers are paid to make cakes not make judgement about the people being married.
"Oh, we can't make cakes for bi-racial, bi-religious couples or for religions other than my own, or for couples from other states....."

The bakers are not judging anyone but themselves and refusing to commit a sin. Attending a gay wedding is a sin to them. It's like forcing them to watch kiddie porn.

Once again, why is it so horrible to bake a cake for a gay wedding, but somehow acceptable to bake one for a Hindu or Pagan wedding?

Being hindu or pagan is not a sin. Gays can buy any cake they want. The sin is not baking the cake. It is participating in the perversion.

but christians did believe that jews, muslims and pagans were siners and other christians than their own were heritics

so what of all the christians who are gay or accept gays?

Not all christians believe being gay is a sin.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Imagine what liberals would think if the Westboro Baptist Church came into the bakery and ordered a cake that said, "God hates fags" on top.

And if the bakery said, I can't do that, putting that message on a cake violates my conscience based on my religious belief that God doesn't hate fags.

Westboro Baptist Church Home Page

Liberals would be singing a very different tune, wouldn't they?

Funny thing is.

If a member of the Westboro Baptist Church walked into order a wedding cake like the one shown above a gay baker cannot refuse service to them in any state in the union without violating the law.

On the other hand

In most states a Christian baker can refuse service to homosexuals with no legal repercussions.



What's good for me it not good for you.



>>>>

 

[Blackrook]

Judge finds Christian bakery guilty of discrimination in landmark 'gay cake' case

Forcing a baker to express a political/religious view that he does not agree with is tyranny.

 

[aris2chat]

The bakers are not judging anyone but themselves and refusing to commit a sin. Attending a gay wedding is a sin to them. It's like forcing them to watch kiddie porn.

Once again, why is it so horrible to bake a cake for a gay wedding, but somehow acceptable to bake one for a Hindu or Pagan wedding?

Being hindu or pagan is not a sin. Gays can buy any cake they want. The sin is not baking the cake. It is participating in the perversion.

Following another God is most certainly a sin. In fact, it is listed as #1 in the 10 Commandments.

What about grocery stores that sell food to gays? It is the homosexuality itself that is supposedly the sin. Aren't the grocers supporting homosexuality?

What about the power company, cable company and phone companies? If selling a wedding cake is "supporting" gays, then isn't providing electricity, cable and phone service to gays also a sin?

Selling food, selling cakes, cookies and flowers to gays is not a sin. Participating in a gay wedding is a sin. It is not a commentary on someone's life choices. It is a personal sin. It is the same as forcing someone to look at kiddie porn. It is strongarming an innocent person to commit a violation of their soul.

So it is not about them being gay. It is about the actual marriage ceremony? Any Biblical reference to go with that claim?

Most marriages are legal agreements, certificates are issued by the state not the church.

>>But if also you shall have married, you did not sin.....<< didn't that come from corinthians?

If something like sex is a sin out side marriage, but not a sin after marriage.... why be upset if gays want to marry, under the law or in front of god

 

[Katzndogz]

The only thing Christian bakers want is that they are not forced at gun point to bake a cake for a same-sex wedding. Why is that unreasonable? Why can't you people bend for that one accommodation of a Christian's whose conscience won't allow him/her to bake a same-sex wedding cake.

If the military can accommodate people who don't want to fight and kill because their religion is against killing, why can't you liberals allow this?

It doesn't make sense how totally ruthless you are being oppressing Christians.

the bakers are paid to make cakes not make judgement about the people being married.
"Oh, we can't make cakes for bi-racial, bi-religious couples or for religions other than my own, or for couples from other states....."

The bakers are not judging anyone but themselves and refusing to commit a sin. Attending a gay wedding is a sin to them. It's like forcing them to watch kiddie porn.

Once again, why is it so horrible to bake a cake for a gay wedding, but somehow acceptable to bake one for a Hindu or Pagan wedding?

Being hindu or pagan is not a sin. Gays can buy any cake they want. The sin is not baking the cake. It is participating in the perversion.

but christians did believe that jews, muslims and pagans were siners and other christians than their own were heritics

so what of all the christians who are gay or accept gays?

Not all christians believe being gay is a sin.

Oh by all means, those Christians who do not believe that participating in a gay wedding is a sin, should certainly enjoy themselves at the event.

 

[aris2chat]

Judge finds Christian bakery guilty of discrimination in landmark 'gay cake' case

Forcing a baker to express a political/religious view that he does not agree with is tyranny.

discrimination is against the law

 

[Katzndogz]

Once again, why is it so horrible to bake a cake for a gay wedding, but somehow acceptable to bake one for a Hindu or Pagan wedding?

Being hindu or pagan is not a sin. Gays can buy any cake they want. The sin is not baking the cake. It is participating in the perversion.

Following another God is most certainly a sin. In fact, it is listed as #1 in the 10 Commandments.

What about grocery stores that sell food to gays? It is the homosexuality itself that is supposedly the sin. Aren't the grocers supporting homosexuality?

What about the power company, cable company and phone companies? If selling a wedding cake is "supporting" gays, then isn't providing electricity, cable and phone service to gays also a sin?

Selling food, selling cakes, cookies and flowers to gays is not a sin. Participating in a gay wedding is a sin. It is not a commentary on someone's life choices. It is a personal sin. It is the same as forcing someone to look at kiddie porn. It is strongarming an innocent person to commit a violation of their soul.

So it is not about them being gay. It is about the actual marriage ceremony? Any Biblical reference to go with that claim?

Most marriages are legal agreements, certificates are issued by the state not the church.

>>But if also you shall have married, you did not sin.....<< didn't that come from corinthians?

If something like sex is a sin out side marriage, but not a sin after marriage.... why be upset if gays want to marry, under the law or in front of god

I don't care if gays marry. I would not even say that they were sinners. That is not my function. I cannot judge the sin of someone else. I can judge my own. It would be a sin for me to participate in, or approve of, or lend my talent in the promotion of homosexuality.

 

[Katzndogz]

Judge finds Christian bakery guilty of discrimination in landmark 'gay cake' case

Forcing a baker to express a political/religious view that he does not agree with is tyranny.

discrimination is against the law

And anti discrimination has become tyranny.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Disney threatens to stop filming in Georgia if anti-gay bill becomes law

Once again proving that homosexuals run Hollywood, and in particular, run Disney at all levels, Disney has said it will boycott the state of Georgia if it passes a law saying that Christian bakers can't be forced to make gay wedding cakes.

In other words, Disney has made it clear that it values gays more than it does the "family values" kind of people who watch most of it's movies, cartoons, and TV shows, and go to its theme parks.

So it remains to be seen whether Georgia will bravely stand by Christians, or will it bend over and take it in the ass from gays.

More bullying tactics by the left to suppress democracy.

Democracy? Ever noticed the Bill of Rights? Made by those "left wing bullies" the Founding Fathers.

Did you read the bill? All it does is ensure religious freedom, which is paramount in the Bill of Rights.

How is allowing a business to discriminate "religious freedom"? These same Christians will serve other religions, which goes against their rules. But somehow the gay thing is worse?

It isn’t.

In fact, it has nothing to do with ‘religious freedom’ at all.

No one’s religious freedom is being ‘violated’ or ‘restricted’ by public accommodations laws.

 

[Katzndogz]

Judge finds Christian bakery guilty of discrimination in landmark 'gay cake' case

Forcing a baker to express a political/religious view that he does not agree with is tyranny.

discrimination is against the law

And anti discrimination has become tyranny.

Discrimination isn't against the law. How it's used is against the law.

Some years ago I had won an award in an art show. A lesbian couple attended that show. They later contacted me to paint their wedding portrait. I threw them out and told them to fuck off. They sued me. I certainly discriminated. They still lost because I was not in the business of painting portraits. I did, I got paid, but it was not my business and I am still free to discriminate.