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Michael Moore is a hypocrite.
This liar pushes a Progressive agenda excoriating Capitalism all the while he's raking in the dough from his movies. He constantly tells America how much he hates it at the same time he's taking our money and using it to pay his armed security staff at his gated mansion, after getting $58 million for his movie, "Bowling For Columbine" which launched his career. He wants to take our guns away because he thinks America is unsafe to live in. Sounds pretty paranoid to me.
He is a fat, disgusting, pig with nothing more than a big mouth. They say he's worth $50 million, which isn't considered much. It seems that everyone has gotten wise to this loud-mouthed bastard. Nobody listens to him anymore except liberals.
Michael Moore, Hypocrite and Liar « Commentary Magazine
Is Michael Moore a hypocrite?
Why Michael Moore is a Big Fat Hypocrite » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
Oh..........and wasn't the shooter half Asian or something?
So now, since a Hispanic killed his black attacker, Travon Martin, Hispanics are suddenly white? (I actually never considered them anything else, the Left did)
And, now that an Asian nut case killed 6 people and himself, Asians are white? I never saw them as different than me, maybe now I'm no longer white.
Okay, let's set the record straight, anyone who kills people are white. That changes the whole demographic of crime in America, white's do it all.
I have no idea of what you're trying to prove. The black 13% of the population commit about half the murders in the country, period. Thrashing about for some convoluted excuse for the obscenely high rates of homicide is neither effect nor productive. No, coming from an impoverished inner city broken home, while no doubt difficult, is not a license to kill nor an excuse for doing so.Serial and rampage killing is likely the only criminal endeavour outside of white collar crime where blacks are in proportion to population. Most other crimes they commit at double or triple the rate of other demographics. About half the murders committed by 13% of the population is mindboggling.So you have the numbers that prove that false?
Not necessarily.
National Poverty Center | University of Michigan
22% of children under the age of 18 are in poverty.
38.2% of blacks
35% of hispanics
13.6% of Asians
12.4% of white non-hispanics
Or for all people
"Poverty rates for blacks and Hispanics greatly exceed the national average. In 2010, 27.4 percent of blacks and 26.6 percent of Hispanics were poor, compared to 9.9 percent of non-Hispanic whites and 12.1 percent of Asians."
Poverty Facts | Poverty Rate, Poverty Thresholds & Census Information
"According to 2012 US Census Data, the highest poverty rate by race is found among Blacks (27.2%), with Hispanics (of any race) having the second highest poverty rate (25.6%). Whites had a poverty rate of 9.7%, while Asians had a poverty rate at 11.7%."
FBI ? Expanded Homicide Data Table 3
31.4% of murders are committed by white, 37.9% by black, 29% are unknown.
13-16 year olds see 125 murders who are white and 188 who are black. Which is 38% white and 57% for black.
For 17-19 years olds it's 35% white and 62.5% black
For 20-24 year olds it's 36% white and 60.6% black
For 25-29 year olds it's 41% white and 55% black
For 30-34 year olds it's 49.6% white and 47.4% black
For 35-39 year olds it's 56.7% white and 38.6% black
For 40-44 year olds it's 60.3% white and 35.7% black
For 45-49 year olds it's 60.3% white and 35.7% black
For 50-54 year olds it's 63.4% white and 30.5% black
For 55-59 year olds it's 69% white and 28.1% black
You can see the pattern here.
Race - The Black Alone Population in the United States: 2012 - People and Households - U.S. Census Bureau
Table 1 (on excel) shows that up until 44 years of age aproximately, black people have a higher proportion of their population compared to white people. White people are more likely to be older.
So 20-24 years olds there 3.3 million and 12.3 million white people. So we're looking at nearly 4 white people aged 20-24 for every one black person. However clearly our murder offenders at this age are disproportionately black.
1,549 murders of 3.3 million people, so one murder for every 2130 black people.
918 murders of 12.3 million people, so one murder for every 13,398 white people.
Which is a massive difference.
But from 45-54 years old what do we have?
290 murders of 5.4 million people, so one murder for every 18620 white people
535 murder of 29.8 million people, so one murder for every 55700 white people
Still much higher for black people.
27.2% of black people in poverty, 9.9% for white people.
So the rate at which black people aged 45-54 murder is 2.99 higher than white people, per capita.
Based on poverty the rate is 2.7 black people in poverty for every white person.
The figures aren't that much different. It's what I expected to find.
The US poverty rate for black people is almost comparable to the murder rate for 45-54 year olds. Clearly there are a lot less murders.
If we look younger the stats are going to be a little bit out, because age brackets are not similar.
However we see nearly double the murders by black kids as by white kids. 452-800 yet there are 3.3 million kids aged 15-19 compared to 11 million white kids. So nearly three times higher. Which gives a rate of about 1 white murderer to 6 black murders at this age.
38.2% of black children are in poverty. Yes, 17-19 isn't necessarily child, but it's coming out of childhood and a point where childhood has a massive impact. This is compared to 12.4% of white kids. This is three times higher.
So why is the murder rate for this age group double poverty rates yet at the age of 45-54 it's about the same?
I think most people would point to gang violence, the type of area poor kids are living in.
If you look at chart 11 you see the types of family households that do exist.
28% of black people are married family households compared to 51.9% for white people. This is more than 2 times higher.
Inner-City Poverty in the United States
This is dated data, but it says 2% of all whites in poverty in 1980 were living in inner city ghettos, 21.1% of all blacks in poverty were living in ghettos.
This has a massive impact on the statistics. Kids growing up in inner city ghettos are far more likely to be involved in gangs, drugs and murder.
So it's hardly surprising that the crime figures are how they are.
Are black people more dangerous? Or are those who are born into inner city ghettos more dangerous and it just so happens many more black people are living in inner city ghettos with poor education, poor family life if any, poor skills for the future in the legitimate world and growing up seeing it's a white man's world?
Now the question is, if this is the case, what are people going to do about it?
What Michael Moore really said was:
"Nearly all of our mass shootings are by angry or disturbed white males."
Is that not true?
Serial and rampage killing is likely the only criminal endeavour outside of white collar crime where blacks are in proportion to population. Most other crimes they commit at double or triple the rate of other demographics. About half the murders committed by 13% of the population is mindboggling.So you have the numbers that prove that false?
Not necessarily.
National Poverty Center | University of Michigan
22% of children under the age of 18 are in poverty.
38.2% of blacks
35% of hispanics
13.6% of Asians
12.4% of white non-hispanics
Or for all people
"Poverty rates for blacks and Hispanics greatly exceed the national average. In 2010, 27.4 percent of blacks and 26.6 percent of Hispanics were poor, compared to 9.9 percent of non-Hispanic whites and 12.1 percent of Asians."
Poverty Facts | Poverty Rate, Poverty Thresholds & Census Information
"According to 2012 US Census Data, the highest poverty rate by race is found among Blacks (27.2%), with Hispanics (of any race) having the second highest poverty rate (25.6%). Whites had a poverty rate of 9.7%, while Asians had a poverty rate at 11.7%."
FBI ? Expanded Homicide Data Table 3
31.4% of murders are committed by white, 37.9% by black, 29% are unknown.
13-16 year olds see 125 murders who are white and 188 who are black. Which is 38% white and 57% for black.
For 17-19 years olds it's 35% white and 62.5% black
For 20-24 year olds it's 36% white and 60.6% black
For 25-29 year olds it's 41% white and 55% black
For 30-34 year olds it's 49.6% white and 47.4% black
For 35-39 year olds it's 56.7% white and 38.6% black
For 40-44 year olds it's 60.3% white and 35.7% black
For 45-49 year olds it's 60.3% white and 35.7% black
For 50-54 year olds it's 63.4% white and 30.5% black
For 55-59 year olds it's 69% white and 28.1% black
You can see the pattern here.
Race - The Black Alone Population in the United States: 2012 - People and Households - U.S. Census Bureau
Table 1 (on excel) shows that up until 44 years of age aproximately, black people have a higher proportion of their population compared to white people. White people are more likely to be older.
So 20-24 years olds there 3.3 million and 12.3 million white people. So we're looking at nearly 4 white people aged 20-24 for every one black person. However clearly our murder offenders at this age are disproportionately black.
1,549 murders of 3.3 million people, so one murder for every 2130 black people.
918 murders of 12.3 million people, so one murder for every 13,398 white people.
Which is a massive difference.
But from 45-54 years old what do we have?
290 murders of 5.4 million people, so one murder for every 18620 white people
535 murder of 29.8 million people, so one murder for every 55700 white people
Still much higher for black people.
27.2% of black people in poverty, 9.9% for white people.
So the rate at which black people aged 45-54 murder is 2.99 higher than white people, per capita.
Based on poverty the rate is 2.7 black people in poverty for every white person.
The figures aren't that much different. It's what I expected to find.
The US poverty rate for black people is almost comparable to the murder rate for 45-54 year olds. Clearly there are a lot less murders.
If we look younger the stats are going to be a little bit out, because age brackets are not similar.
However we see nearly double the murders by black kids as by white kids. 452-800 yet there are 3.3 million kids aged 15-19 compared to 11 million white kids. So nearly three times higher. Which gives a rate of about 1 white murderer to 6 black murders at this age.
38.2% of black children are in poverty. Yes, 17-19 isn't necessarily child, but it's coming out of childhood and a point where childhood has a massive impact. This is compared to 12.4% of white kids. This is three times higher.
So why is the murder rate for this age group double poverty rates yet at the age of 45-54 it's about the same?
I think most people would point to gang violence, the type of area poor kids are living in.
If you look at chart 11 you see the types of family households that do exist.
28% of black people are married family households compared to 51.9% for white people. This is more than 2 times higher.
Inner-City Poverty in the United States
This is dated data, but it says 2% of all whites in poverty in 1980 were living in inner city ghettos, 21.1% of all blacks in poverty were living in ghettos.
This has a massive impact on the statistics. Kids growing up in inner city ghettos are far more likely to be involved in gangs, drugs and murder.
So it's hardly surprising that the crime figures are how they are.
Are black people more dangerous? Or are those who are born into inner city ghettos more dangerous and it just so happens many more black people are living in inner city ghettos with poor education, poor family life if any, poor skills for the future in the legitimate world and growing up seeing it's a white man's world?
Now the question is, if this is the case, what are people going to do about it?
I have no idea of what you're trying to prove. The black 13% of the population commit about half the murders in the country, period. Thrashing about for some convoluted excuse for the obscenely high rates of homicide is neither effect nor productive. No, coming from an impoverished inner city broken home, while no doubt difficult, is not a license to kill nor an excuse for doing so.
Nothing.
Democrats like things to stay the same in the black community, but instead of bringing blacks out of poverty, they want to put more whites into the same condition.
Truth be told... The most dangerous people are democrats....Slavery , the KKK, Jim crow laws, Segregation, Lynching, The civil war, support of cop killers, The only use of a nuclear device on a populated city TWICE, OH I almost forgot....47+ innocent babies killed by abortion.
Truth be told... The most dangerous people are democrats....Slavery , the KKK, Jim crow laws, Segregation, Lynching, The civil war, support of cop killers, The only use of a nuclear device on a populated city TWICE, OH I almost forgot....47+ innocent babies killed by abortion.
I think you meant 47 million.
If those babies were alive today - knowing that the majority of aborted babies are aborted by women who tend to be Democrats, who would raise them to be Democrats - they would ensure that America would never see a Republican president again.
Michael Moore is a hypocrite.
This liar pushes a Progressive agenda excoriating Capitalism all the while he's raking in the dough from his movies. He constantly tells America how much he hates it at the same time he's taking our money and using it to pay his armed security staff at his gated mansion, after getting $58 million for his movie, "Bowling For Columbine" which launched his career. He wants to take our guns away because he thinks America is unsafe to live in. Sounds pretty paranoid to me.
He is a fat, disgusting, pig with nothing more than a big mouth. They say he's worth $50 million, which isn't considered much. It seems that everyone has gotten wise to this loud-mouthed bastard. Nobody listens to him anymore except liberals.
Michael Moore, Hypocrite and Liar « Commentary Magazine
Is Michael Moore a hypocrite?
Why Michael Moore is a Big Fat Hypocrite » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
There are plenty of hypocrites in the world.
However you say only liberals listen to him. Well that's about half the population of the US, and hardly surprising the right don't listen to him. It's like expecting the liberals to listen to some right wing guy.
Michael Moore is a hypocrite.
This liar pushes a Progressive agenda excoriating Capitalism all the while he's raking in the dough from his movies. He constantly tells America how much he hates it at the same time he's taking our money and using it to pay his armed security staff at his gated mansion, after getting $58 million for his movie, "Bowling For Columbine" which launched his career. He wants to take our guns away because he thinks America is unsafe to live in. Sounds pretty paranoid to me.
He is a fat, disgusting, pig with nothing more than a big mouth. They say he's worth $50 million, which isn't considered much. It seems that everyone has gotten wise to this loud-mouthed bastard. Nobody listens to him anymore except liberals.
Michael Moore, Hypocrite and Liar « Commentary Magazine
Is Michael Moore a hypocrite?
Why Michael Moore is a Big Fat Hypocrite » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
There are plenty of hypocrites in the world.
However you say only liberals listen to him. Well that's about half the population of the US, and hardly surprising the right don't listen to him. It's like expecting the liberals to listen to some right wing guy.
Most of America is moderate. Only a small % of us follow MSNBC, which is the nutjobs that actually listen to twerps like Moore.
There are plenty of hypocrites in the world.
However you say only liberals listen to him. Well that's about half the population of the US, and hardly surprising the right don't listen to him. It's like expecting the liberals to listen to some right wing guy.
Most of America is moderate. Only a small % of us follow MSNBC, which is the nutjobs that actually listen to twerps like Moore.
I don't know though. I estimate that there is more than 47% of the country that are left wingers.
They are the same types that think the Tea Party is equal to the KKK. They get that type of information from all of the other sources that think like BSNBC. From education systems, entertainment industry, on and on and on.
We need to keep up the good fight, but right now it feels like pissing in the wind.
Is it a mass shooting when William Whitebread kills three people because he's off his meds? Fine. Is it also a mass shooting when Tyrone shoots Pookie because he sold him some bad rock and hits four other people in the process?
The reason I ask is for every William Whitebread that gets pounded into us by the media there are dozens of Tyrones that aren't reported on a nation wide level.
If we're going to pretend that whites are behind mass shootings, then define what a mass shooting is and show me the statistics.
Most of America is moderate. Only a small % of us follow MSNBC, which is the nutjobs that actually listen to twerps like Moore.
If you ask most people if they agree with Obama polices most overwhelmingly don't. They may like him personally, but doesn't mean they agree with him.
Is it a mass shooting when William Whitebread kills three people because he's off his meds? Fine. Is it also a mass shooting when Tyrone shoots Pookie because he sold him some bad rock and hits four other people in the process?
The reason I ask is for every William Whitebread that gets pounded into us by the media there are dozens of Tyrones that aren't reported on a nation wide level.
If we're going to pretend that whites are behind mass shootings, then define what a mass shooting is and show me the statistics.
The difference is William went out with the purpose of killing a bunch of people for no reason (or mental)
And Tyrones purpose was to kill one person for wasting or stealing or having been duped.
A planned mass murder cant be the same as an accidental one unless we are saying premeditation doesnt mean anything but then we'll have to get really retarded
Is it a mass shooting when William Whitebread kills three people because he's off his meds? Fine. Is it also a mass shooting when Tyrone shoots Pookie because he sold him some bad rock and hits four other people in the process?
The reason I ask is for every William Whitebread that gets pounded into us by the media there are dozens of Tyrones that aren't reported on a nation wide level.
If we're going to pretend that whites are behind mass shootings, then define what a mass shooting is and show me the statistics.
The difference is William went out with the purpose of killing a bunch of people for no reason (or mental)
And Tyrones purpose was to kill one person for wasting or stealing or having been duped.
A planned mass murder cant be the same as an accidental one unless we are saying premeditation doesnt mean anything but then we'll have to get really retarded
Actually it is. People are dead. What you want is for one death to matter more than another because of the cause. But these people are still deaf. The knife victims don't matter as much as those killed by his guns. That is total horsecrap.
First Degree Murder: Definition
In most states, first-degree murder is defined as an unlawful killing that is both willful and premeditated, meaning that it was committed after planning or "lying in wait" for the victim.
- See more at: First Degree Murder Overview - FindLaw
The difference is William went out with the purpose of killing a bunch of people for no reason (or mental)
And Tyrones purpose was to kill one person for wasting or stealing or having been duped.
A planned mass murder cant be the same as an accidental one unless we are saying premeditation doesnt mean anything but then we'll have to get really retarded
Actually it is. People are dead. What you want is for one death to matter more than another because of the cause. But these people are still deaf. The knife victims don't matter as much as those killed by his guns. That is total horsecrap.
Premeditated murder is always seen as more evil as accidentaly in the justice system but you're saying premeditation doesnt matter?
Naw, you're not saying that...that so dam stupid no one would admit that.
First Degree Murder: Definition
In most states, first-degree murder is defined as an unlawful killing that is both willful and premeditated, meaning that it was committed after planning or "lying in wait" for the victim.
- See more at: First Degree Murder Overview - FindLaw
You want all murders to be the same just because your feelings and/or this topic but you dont really believe that.
