Do Conservatives Believe In Social Darwinism?

[Derideo_Te]

If you have a mortgage interest deduction that is a form of Federal Welfare.

Allowing people to keep their own money is not welfare, chumley.

Your anal fixation on money says volumes.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Actually these are Wurmbrands words -

Darwin had written a scientific book setting forth
his theory of origins. It had no economic or political
implications. But though many might go so far as to
concede that God created the world through a long
process of evolution, the end result of Darwin's theory
has been the killing of tens of millions of innocents. He
therefore became the spiritual father of the greatest
mass-murderer in history.Full text of Marx And Satan



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Wurmbrand called Darwin the spiritual father to the greatest mass murderer in history - he is of course referring to Marx and the founding of Communism. I had to correct myself here as I was going from memory when stating how Wurmbrand put it. Is Communism entitled to the title greatest mass murderer in history? Most definitely. Communism has been responsible for more death than Hitler, than Mohammad. And quite possibly even the combining of the two would not add up to the mass murder caused by Communism since its inception.

Disagree. Capitalism is responsible for more deaths, murders, and genocides than anything in history.

Hmmmm - disagree. Communism and Fascism win that award.

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Lets tally up the the death count.

amenable to that. only how exactly do you propose to do that?

Going to have to be an approximation now that I think about it and we would need to ignore the propaganda.

But we must agree on exactly what factors go into counting the death statistics. Saying that people died either of Conservatism or Communism is not good enough. Did they die through wars? Famines? Droughts? Biological weapons? and so on and so on and so on....

 

[Wry Catcher]

The short answer here is no. Mainly because there is no such thing as social darwinism, outside of progressive fantasies about what conservatives believe. In fact no conservative ever used the term, unless referring to charges made by progressives.
Another myth blown up.

Social Darwinism: the theory that individuals, groups, and peoples are subject to the same Darwinian laws of natural selection as plants and animals. Now largely discredited, social Darwinism was advocated by Herbert Spencer and others in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and was used to justify political conservatism, imperialism, and racism and to discourage intervention and reform."?

Rabbit is easily confused, is he speaking about the original Progressives, or is he simply trolling for bait? My guess, since he has earned the Master Baiter of the Mind merit badge, that he's trolling for bait with the wrong bait and thus, will once again play with himself and lose.

Unfortunately there are no sources supporting that statement. So all you have left is insult. Which is your usual state becuse you are poorly educated and not very bright, cocksucker

That was only one definition of Social Darwinism, want more:

Social Darwinism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

social Darwinism Encyclopedia Britannica

Social Darwinism is the conflict between social groups which results in the most socially capable or fit group coming out on top as the winner, usually in terms of influence and wealth. According to social Darwinism, rich people would succeed and poor people would fail. [ Social Darwinism Definition Meaning Quiz Education Portal ]

And another:

Social Darwinism

I. Introduction

Social Darwinism, term coined in the late 19th century to describe the idea that humans, like animals and plants, compete in a struggle for existence in which natural selection results in "survival of the fittest." Social Darwinists base their beliefs on theories of evolution developed by British naturalist Charles Darwin. Some social Darwinists argue that governments should not interfere with human competition by attempting to regulate the economy or cure social ills such as poverty. Instead, they advocate a laissez-faire political and economic system that favors competition and self-interest in social and business affairs. Social Darwinists typically deny that they advocate a "law of the jungle." But most propose arguments that justify imbalances of power between individuals, races, and nations because they consider some people more fit to survive than others.

The term social Darwinist is applied loosely to anyone who interprets human society primarily in terms of biology, struggle, competition, or natural law (a philosophy based on what are considered the permanent characteristics of human nature). Social Darwinism characterizes a variety of past and present social policies and theories, from attempts to reduce the power of government to theories exploring the biological causes of human behavior. Many people believe that the concept of social Darwinism explains the philosophical rationalization behind racism, imperialism, andcapitalism. The term has negative implications for most people because they consider it a rejection of compassion and social responsibility. Social Darwinism

Stop trying to start threads Rabbi, especially threads which include something in your head not related to the real world.

 

[The Rabbi]

"To many, George Wallace was the embodiment of racism in America. To others, he was a champion of Southern pride and a defender of the working class. He rose to power as the nation’s best-known segregationist in the early 1960s, but later in his career he was elected governor of Alabama with overwhelming black support. A Golden Gloves fighter, he battled his way into the national spotlight and came close to deadlocking the 1968 presidential election as a third-party candidate -- then was shot down by a would-be assassin on the eve of his greatest political victory. Wallace would spend his remaining years seeking redemption for the divisiveness he had once preached and asking forgiveness from those he had scorned, but he left a conservative political legacy that continues to influence national politics today."

The American Experience George Wallace Settin the Woods on Fire Program Description

Simple people are easily swayed
Look at Wallace's polices as governor and his expansion of state government He was a progressive all right.

Well, then, let's think about this. Ok.

The debt tripled under Reagan. Government agencies expanded under Reagan. Ergo, he was a progressive all right.
Nixon created the EPA, he also put prize freezes on products. Ergo, he was a progressive all right.
Bush 43 created the DHS, he supported immigration reform, he broke the bank. Ergo, he was a progressive all right.

See how easy that is?

Your argument has more holes than Maasdaamer cheese.

Nixon was actually closer to being a progressive than he was to being a conservative.
Something you got right, Herr Esel.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Gearoge Wallace was a die hard racist and conservative. He ran as a progressive as a political ploy to throw a monkey wrench into the elections and force the federal government to stop desegregation efforts.

Wallace was conservative?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA

So, was he an advocate of low taxes? Did old George call for the reduction of the size and scope of government? Was he calling for freedom of workers against union monopolies in the workplace?

No? None of these?

Wallace, like all the racist democrats, was a far left shitbucket. You keep telling the big lie - but reality is.

 

[Statistikhengst]

If Wallace were elected in 1968 we would have won the Vietnam War.

Oh, fer fux sakes. That man was a walking disaster and a nasty sonofabitch.

 

[Bush92]

If Wallace were elected in 1968 we would have won the Vietnam War.

Oh, fer fux sakes. That man was a walking disaster and a nasty sonofabitch.

Good American. States's right guy until 1982 when he turned traitor.

 

[Asclepias]

Disagree. Capitalism is responsible for more deaths, murders, and genocides than anything in history.

Hmmmm - disagree. Communism and Fascism win that award.

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Lets tally up the the death count.

amenable to that. only how exactly do you propose to do that?

Going to have to be an approximation now that I think about it and we would need to ignore the propaganda.

But we must agree on exactly what factors go into counting the death statistics. Saying that people died either of Conservatism or Communism is not good enough. Did they die through wars? Famines? Droughts? Biological weapons? and so on and so on and so on....

All of those except droughts unless it can be proven someone can control the weather.

 

[The Rabbi]

The short answer here is no. Mainly because there is no such thing as social darwinism, outside of progressive fantasies about what conservatives believe. In fact no conservative ever used the term, unless referring to charges made by progressives.
Another myth blown up.

Social Darwinism: the theory that individuals, groups, and peoples are subject to the same Darwinian laws of natural selection as plants and animals. Now largely discredited, social Darwinism was advocated by Herbert Spencer and others in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and was used to justify political conservatism, imperialism, and racism and to discourage intervention and reform."?

Rabbit is easily confused, is he speaking about the original Progressives, or is he simply trolling for bait? My guess, since he has earned the Master Baiter of the Mind merit badge, that he's trolling for bait with the wrong bait and thus, will once again play with himself and lose.

Unfortunately there are no sources supporting that statement. So all you have left is insult. Which is your usual state becuse you are poorly educated and not very bright, cocksucker

That was only one definition of Social Darwinism, want more:

Social Darwinism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

social Darwinism Encyclopedia Britannica

Social Darwinism is the conflict between social groups which results in the most socially capable or fit group coming out on top as the winner, usually in terms of influence and wealth. According to social Darwinism, rich people would succeed and poor people would fail. [ Social Darwinism Definition Meaning Quiz Education Portal ]

And another:

Social Darwinism

I. Introduction

Social Darwinism, term coined in the late 19th century to describe the idea that humans, like animals and plants, compete in a struggle for existence in which natural selection results in "survival of the fittest." Social Darwinists base their beliefs on theories of evolution developed by British naturalist Charles Darwin. Some social Darwinists argue that governments should not interfere with human competition by attempting to regulate the economy or cure social ills such as poverty. Instead, they advocate a laissez-faire political and economic system that favors competition and self-interest in social and business affairs. Social Darwinists typically deny that they advocate a "law of the jungle." But most propose arguments that justify imbalances of power between individuals, races, and nations because they consider some people more fit to survive than others.

The term social Darwinist is applied loosely to anyone who interprets human society primarily in terms of biology, struggle, competition, or natural law (a philosophy based on what are considered the permanent characteristics of human nature). Social Darwinism characterizes a variety of past and present social policies and theories, from attempts to reduce the power of government to theories exploring the biological causes of human behavior. Many people believe that the concept of social Darwinism explains the philosophical rationalization behind racism, imperialism, andcapitalism. The term has negative implications for most people because they consider it a rejection of compassion and social responsibility. Social Darwinism

Stop trying to start threads Rabbi, especially threads which include something in your head not related to the real world.

I realize that your "education" stops with the internet but the truth is that no one believed in social darwinism. It is a made up claim by the Left. You cannot show anyone espousing it.

 

[Bush92]

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...v4SACA&usg=AFQjCNGuBczCatzhXkkzsxWts8T-MspHXw
Seem's to be a civil libertarian to me.

 

[The Rabbi]

If Wallace were elected in 1968 we would have won the Vietnam War.

Oh, fer fux sakes. That man was a walking disaster and a nasty sonofabitch.

I realize you think in simple terms but Wallace was opposed to the Vietnam war. But while we were in it he felt we should fight to win or not but not pursue the idiotic strategy of the Democrat Johnson.

 

[Asclepias]

Gearoge Wallace was a die hard racist and conservative. He ran as a progressive as a political ploy to throw a monkey wrench into the elections and force the federal government to stop desegregation efforts.

Wallace was conservative?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA

So, was he an advocate of low taxes? Did old George call for the reduction of the size and scope of government? Was he calling for freedom of workers against union monopolies in the workplace?

No? None of these?

Wallace, like all the racist democrats, was a far left shitbucket. You keep telling the big lie - but reality is.

The racist democrats all vote as republican racists now. I already educated you on the southern strategy. You are now being willfully ignorant and as such are not regarded as a viable interlocutor from this point on.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yes it does work that way. The best you can be is set by your belief you can be better. You dont have to be Eric Clapton to play better than him. You just have to out work him.

Utter nonsense. Things such as finger length, joint dexterity, tendon tensality, all contribute. One of the things that made Jimi Hendrix a virtuoso was freakishly long thumbs. He would wrap his thumb around the neck and hit the two base strings with it. Most people can't do that.

Sorry, raw talent exists, we are all limited by nature.

 

[nodoginnafight]

"(George) Wallace would spend his remaining years seeking redemption for the divisiveness he had once preached and asking forgiveness from those he had scorned, but he left a conservative political legacy that continues to influence national politics today."

The American Experience George Wallace Settin the Woods on Fire Program Description

I understand why many conservatives would like to distance themselves from this. Don't blame them.

But trying to change the definition of terms is a really stupid way to try to do it.

No one is fooled.

 

[Uncensored2008]

That was funny. No one fears you. You are too stupid to carry on a legit conversation.

Statist made a point of telling me that he was too afraid to debate me and would hide in fear and shame.

 

[Asclepias]

Yes it does work that way. The best you can be is set by your belief you can be better. You dont have to be Eric Clapton to play better than him. You just have to out work him.

Utter nonsense. Things such as finger length, joint dexterity, tendon tensality, all contribute. One of the things that made Jimi Hendrix a virtuoso was freakishly long thumbs. He would wrap his thumb around the neck and hit the two base strings with it. Most people can't do that.

Sorry, raw talent exists, we are all limited by nature.

Sad you think someone has a genetic advantage you cant over come. Good thing others dont listen to people like you.

 

[Asclepias]

"(George) Wallace would spend his remaining years seeking redemption for the divisiveness he had once preached and asking forgiveness from those he had scorned, but he left a conservative political legacy that continues to influence national politics today."

The American Experience George Wallace Settin the Woods on Fire Program Description

I understand why many conservatives would like to distance themselves from this. Don't blame them.

But trying to change the definition of terms is a really stupid way to try to do it.

No one is fooled.

Only people that have diminutive critical thinking skills would define Wallace as anything other than conservative.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The racist democrats all vote as republican racists now. I already educated you on the southern strategy. You are now being willfully ignorant and as such are not regarded as a viable interlocutor from this point on.

If you chant the big lie, people will believe it?

Perhaps, for awhile.

Tell me, WHICH racist dims became Republicans?

Bull Conner?
Orval Faubus?
Albert Gore? (sr. - KKK member)
George Wallace?
Fritz Hollings? (KKK member)
Robert Byrd (Grand Kleagle - KKK)

the DNC was and is the home of racism - you continue to judge others by the color of their skin, rather than the content of their character.

 

[Asclepias]

That was funny. No one fears you. You are too stupid to carry on a legit conversation.

Statist made a point of telling me that he was too afraid to debate me and would hide in fear and shame.

I think he was being sarcastic but that seems to have escaped you.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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Sad you think someone has a genetic advantage you cant over come. Good thing others dont listen to people like you.

Reality exists. Those who fail to grasp this are mentally ill.