Sky Dancer
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Get rid of bigotry. Oppose extremism in all its forms.
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Well I use the opinions of scholars and imams, I dont post my opinions .
Right. If that were true, then how do I know that you don't like Muslims? I'll tell you one way I know. Whenever I make a post that is neutral to positive about Muslims you neg rep me.
Mr. Fitnah, who despises Islam, still claims to be a scholar of that faith although he has never practiced it. He would have us trust him above actual Muslims on all matters Islamic. This desire to control what we think of Islam is quite powerful in him; I cannot recall ever seeing him post on another topic. Speculating about the motives of someone who would behave in this way has led to me one dark idea after another, but IME those with a craven desire to control the thoughts of others have suffered a loss of their own sense of personal power.
He's a victim of his own paranoia and hate, and I pity him.
Right. If that were true, then how do I know that you don't like Muslims? I'll tell you one way I know. Whenever I make a post that is neutral to positive about Muslims you neg rep me.
Mr. Fitnah, who despises Islam, still claims to be a scholar of that faith although he has never practiced it. He would have us trust him above actual Muslims on all matters Islamic. This desire to control what we think of Islam is quite powerful in him; I cannot recall ever seeing him post on another topic. Speculating about the motives of someone who would behave in this way has led to me one dark idea after another, but IME those with a craven desire to control the thoughts of others have suffered a loss of their own sense of personal power.
He's a victim of his own paranoia and hate, and I pity him.
You can be a student of somethign without having to practice it. There are a lot of very good Oncology specialists who have never had cancer, but they know how to treat it.
What you can't do without practicing the faith is have a living experience of it. Hissyfit has an anti-Islam bias. All he does it pick out passages that lend credence to his bigotry.
What you can't do without practicing the faith is have a living experience of it. Hissyfit has an anti-Islam bias. All he does it pick out passages that lend credence to his bigotry.
So if he can find passages that lend credence to his bigotry, are you saying that the koran is a book for bigots? I'm down with that.
Terrorists often domisuse scripture.What you can't do without practicing the faith is have a living experience of it. Hissyfit has an anti-Islam bias. All he does it pick out passages that lend credence to his bigotry.
So if he can find passages that lend credence to his bigotry, are you saying that the koran is a book for bigots? I'm down with that.
I'm saying that he is cherry picking verses to back his bigotry. Some atheists do the same with Christian passages.
Some people who oppose marriage equality use biblical passages to justify their bias against gays and lesbians. Other Christians say of the same passages that they don't support harm to any gay or lesbian person.
Scripture can be misused and misinterpreted. Terrorists misuse scripture.
Terrorists often domisuse scripture.So if he can find passages that lend credence to his bigotry, are you saying that the koran is a book for bigots? I'm down with that.
I'm saying that he is cherry picking verses to back his bigotry. Some atheists do the same with Christian passages.
Some people who oppose marriage equality use biblical passages to justify their bias against gays and lesbians. Other Christians say of the same passages that they don't support harm to any gay or lesbian person.
Scripture can be misused and misinterpreted. Terrorists misuse scripture.
Those who misuse scripture are not terrorists.
Nice, but lame, try.
With religion, it often is. Yet, some things are just as they are.Terrorists often domisuse scripture.I'm saying that he is cherry picking verses to back his bigotry. Some atheists do the same with Christian passages.
Some people who oppose marriage equality use biblical passages to justify their bias against gays and lesbians. Other Christians say of the same passages that they don't support harm to any gay or lesbian person.
Scripture can be misused and misinterpreted. Terrorists misuse scripture.
Those who misuse scripture are not terrorists.
Nice, but lame, try.
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It's a matter of interpretation.
With religion, it often is. Yet, some things are just as they are.Terrorists often domisuse scripture.
Those who misuse scripture are not terrorists.
Nice, but lame, try.
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It's a matter of interpretation.
But, when it comes to terrorism, I would imagine your relativism serves you well.
That's the nice thing about living in a country with secular laws. I can blast stone-age theocracies and those who admire stone-age theocracies and those from stone-age theocracies without worrying about being punished for blasphemy.
What you can't do without practicing the faith is have a living experience of it. Hissyfit has an anti-Islam bias. All he does it pick out passages that lend credence to his bigotry.
So if he can find passages that lend credence to his bigotry, are you saying that the koran is a book for bigots? I'm down with that.
What you can't do without practicing the faith is have a living experience of it. Hissyfit has an anti-Islam bias. All he does it pick out passages that lend credence to his bigotry.
So if he can find passages that lend credence to his bigotry, are you saying that the koran is a book for bigots? I'm down with that.
I'm saying that he is cherry picking verses to back his bigotry. Some atheists do the same with Christian passages.
I cherrypick, I only concern myself with the parts of Islam that concern me Jihad ,terrorism ,dhimmietude,ETC what constitutes offenses to muslims.What you can't do without practicing the faith is have a living experience of it. Hissyfit has an anti-Islam bias. All he does it pick out passages that lend credence to his bigotry.
So if he can find passages that lend credence to his bigotry, are you saying that the koran is a book for bigots? I'm down with that.
I'm saying that he is cherry picking verses to back his bigotry. Some atheists do the same with Christian passages.
You cant prove that.Scripture can be misused and misinterpreted. Terrorists misuse scripture.
I hate mahogany.
Not to mention all of the information that isn't consistent with your silly Islamic world domination conspiracy theory.
Mr. Fitnah, who despises Islam, still claims to be a scholar of that faith although he has never practiced it. He would have us trust him above actual Muslims on all matters Islamic. This desire to control what we think of Islam is quite powerful in him; I cannot recall ever seeing him post on another topic. Speculating about the motives of someone who would behave in this way has led to me one dark idea after another, but IME those with a craven desire to control the thoughts of others have suffered a loss of their own sense of personal power.
He's a victim of his own paranoia and hate, and I pity him.
You can be a student of somethign without having to practice it. There are a lot of very good Oncology specialists who have never had cancer, but they know how to treat it.
What you can't do without practicing the faith is have a living experience of it. Hissyfit has an anti-Islam bias. He picks out passages that lend credence to his bigotry. He hates all things Islamic.
Anyone can pick up a book on Buddhist philosophy and read it. That doesn't mean that they have understood the teaching. In our tradition, we have oral, symbolic, and mind to mind transmission in addition to written scriptures.
Also we contemplate and then mediate on the scriptures which allows for a deeper understanding.
Try folliwng the Bodihcharyaravatara. When Buddhist teachers lecture on scripture they go into it in minute detail. It's not unusual for them to spend an entire day just explaing the title of a scripture.
If you're going to make an analogy to medicine you would be wise to use Chinese medicine as an example. Anyone can learn the acupuncture sites on a human body, but understanding the energy flows and elements and how to promote real healing using them takes a lifetime to master.
What you can't do without practicing the faith is have a living experience of it. Hissyfit has an anti-Islam bias. All he does it pick out passages that lend credence to his bigotry.
So if he can find passages that lend credence to his bigotry, are you saying that the koran is a book for bigots? I'm down with that.
So the Koran and the Bible are pretty much the same?
Stoning of unfaithful wives and such.
Nope.Its close enough to get the gist .
Isnt it?
And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allâh) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allâh Alone [in the whole of the world[]]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allâh), then certainly, Allâh is All-Seer of what they do. (Al-Anfal 8:39)
And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allâh) and (all and every kind of) worship is for Allâh (Alone). But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zâlimûn (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.) (Al-Baqarah 2:193)
From your source concerning the verse I asked about,
8:39
[39-40] O Believers, fight with the disbelievers till there is no more mischief and the way of life prescribed by Allah is established in its entirety.31 Then if they desist from mischief, surely Allah beholds what they do, but if they give no heed, know it that Allah is your Protector, and He is the best of all protectors and helpers.
Meaning of Mischief
In his Tafsir, As-Suddi said that Ibn `Abbas and Ibn Mas`ud commented,
[وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمْ لاَ تُفْسِدُواْ فِى الأَرْضِ قَالُواْ إِنَّمَا نَحْنُ مُصْلِحُونَ ]
(And when it is said to them: "Do not make mischief on the earth,'' they say: "We are only peacemakers.'') "They are the hypocrites. As for,
[لاَ تُفْسِدُواْ فِى الأَرْضِ]
("Do not make mischief on the earth''), that is disbelief and acts of disobedience.'' Abu Ja`far said that Ar-Rabi` bin Anas said that Abu Al-`Aliyah said that Allah's statement,
[وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمْ لاَ تُفْسِدُواْ فِى الأَرْضِ]
(And when it is said to them: "Do not make mischief on the earth,''), means, "Do not commit acts of disobedience on the earth. Their mischief is disobeying Allah, because whoever disobeys Allah on the earth, or commands that Allah be disobeyed, he has committed mischief on the earth. Peace on both the earth and in the heavens is ensured (and earned) through obedience (to Allah).'' Ar-Rabi` bin Anas and Qatadah said similarly.
Tafsir.com Tafsir Ibn Kathir
So if he can find passages that lend credence to his bigotry, are you saying that the koran is a book for bigots? I'm down with that.
I'm saying that he is cherry picking verses to back his bigotry. Some atheists do the same with Christian passages.
Cherry picking or not, you're saying the koran has that many bigotted passages, since MrFistfucked posts non-stop, 24/7.
It's ok, I'm down with that.
Interesting. As a person who has admitted being ignorant in Islam, how would you be in any possible position to judge the knowledge of another? Somehow, that makes sense to you.Right. If that were true, then how do I know that you don't like Muslims? I'll tell you one way I know. Whenever I make a post that is neutral to positive about Muslims you neg rep me.
Mr. Fitnah, who despises Islam, still claims to be a scholar of that faith although he has never practiced it. He would have us trust him above actual Muslims on all matters Islamic. This desire to control what we think of Islam is quite powerful in him; I cannot recall every seeing him post on another topic.
He's a victim of his own paranoia and hate, and I pity him.
Fascinating.