Do You Consider the Destruction of Israel a "Personal Tragedy?"

[Ropey]

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[georgephillip]

Go tell Mossad:

"On July 23, 2011, a 35-year-old Iranian electrical engineering student named Darioush Rezaeinejad was gunned down as he and his wife, who was also wounded in the attack, waited for their child in front of a kindergarten in Tehran.

"Israel has never denied that it was behind that assassination, and two senior US officials have confirmed to NBC news that the accusation by Ali Larijani - a senior adviser to Iran's supreme leader Ali Khamenei - that Israel's Mossad had used the Mujahideen E. Khalq (MEK) to carry out the killing of Iranian scientists was essentially accurate."

How Mossad Justified Its Murder of an Innocent Iranian Electrical Engineer | Truthout

Nobody is really sure if the Kurds weren't involved in any of the killings of the scientists. After all the Kurds want their own state, and Iran is one of the countries against this. While Georgie is concerned with the Mossad and what it might have done, I doubt if he is concerned with all those young Iranian women who have been thrown into prison there for protesting against the current regime, and who are being raped the night before they are slated to be killed. Does Georgie even know that in his own hometown a section in West Los Angeles is being considered to be named for the young woman Neda who was gunned down in the street in Tehran. Has Georgie even been paying attention to the Iranians of all religions who have protested in front of the Federal Building against the current regime. U.S. band tunes for Neda. - Free Online Library

No one who isn't an indoctrinated slave can doubt the US is building a network of military bases in Afghanistan designed to send a very simple message to Iran, Russia, and China; the US will be in this neighborhood for a long, long time. Most of the crimes being committed in Iran today stem from a similar act of hubris committed by the US in 1953:

"(Mohammad) Mosaddegh (Prime Minister of Iran) was removed from power in a coup on 19 August 1953, organised and carried out by the United States CIA at the request of the British MI6 which chose Iranian General Fazlollah Zahedi to succeed Mosaddegh.[2]"

If you have the slightest interest in enhancing human rights in the Middle East and Africa, you can start by changing the behavior of the greatest purveyor of violence on this planet.

Mohammad Mosaddegh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[georgephillip]

Destruction is not defined- So I guess for the emotionally charged we are talking genocide or something.....

That is not the only alternative..... Including the nature of the state becoming more inclusive..........

They are turning off the world but as long as they have the "big satan" on their side, it don't matter much now does it..............

Perhaps these young people were voting for a democratic Israel as opposed to a Jewish Israel.

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IMHO Israel is pretty democratic... They have a few million ppl, & many parties to pick from, we have over 300 million ppl & have only two choices-both bad IMO........

There are many voices of discontent, unlike here, the peace movement is live & well..... But the right control the show...........

There are many voices of discontent here as well & valid criticism of the regime,.....

Elected "leaders" in Israel and US represent the richest 1% of their populations at the expense of the majority; other people's money and other people's blood pretty well sums up their moral calculus. I don't see any US solution that doesn't require millions of voters to FLUSH as many incumbents from the US Congress as possible next November. If hundreds of DC Republicans AND Democrats lose their jobs in a single news cycle, Change and Hope won't be far behind.

 

[Hossfly]

"Do You Consider the Destruction of Israel a "Personal Tragedy?"
Nah. I'd consider it the greatest day in the history of modern "civilization".
Once those parasites are extinct the world can live in peace. Once they're attacked they'll attempt to completely destroy Europe ( their promise) in retaliation which will result in a world wide extermination campaign.
They'll find out what "chosen" really means.

It looks like another anti-Semitic cockroach has crawled out of the woodwork. It's amazing how naive these anti-Semites are thinking that if there was no Israel there would be world peace. Those radical Muslims just love Dhimwits as this one. They find them such useful tools.

 

[Wolverine1984]

tragedy hell. Proof that in the end truth and justice always win.

Jews are like some sort of disease running from host to host, till they are kicked out and sent to the next victim.

intelectaltruth eh ?
Doesn't look like you are either one ...

bahaa balusha is a traitor who was part of the attempted coup against the elected government in palestine. His car was shot up because he was thought to be inside.

i see , so the shoot first ask questions later is the official legal first step in the hamas handbook of apprehending lawbreakers, right ?

He is a traitor ? Really ? Did the court find him guilty of treason ?
What evidence was brought to prove that fact ?

You argue about israel not following legal proceedings ,while hamas shoot fatah on the street without any consideration of legal proceedings ... Thats hypocrisy at it's best.

Great many of fatah men where executed by hamas.
How many of them got the to speak to their lawyer ?
When hamas held them captive before execution , did they have an arrest warrant for them ? Did they have proof beyond all reasonable doubt that those men are guilty of the crimes they are accused of ?
Did they hold a trial ?

The answer for all those questions is no. They just rounded them up, blind folded them , told them to lie on the ground and emptied two ak-47 magazines on them.
Yet you have the audacity to speak about how "administrative arrests are illegal in palestine".

fatah (remember they lost the elections) was attempting to regain their losses at the point of a gun. When people are shooting at you it is not a good time to get a warrant.

The war was started by fatah and they lost.

What does it matter who started or who lost, we are talking about legal conduct.

"When people are shooting at you it is not a good time to get a warrant."
So the children of bahaa balusha where shooting at the Hamas assassins when they were killed right ?

In addition many alleged Fatah people were held captive and then executed - they were not shooting back and did not offer resistance.

Did those prisoners get a trial ? Where their alleged guilt proven ?


LiveLeak.com - Fatah leader execution caught in video tape

 

[P F Tinmore]

tragedy hell. Proof that in the end truth and justice always win.

Jews are like some sort of disease running from host to host, till they are kicked out and sent to the next victim.

intelectaltruth eh ?
Doesn't look like you are either one ...

i see , so the shoot first ask questions later is the official legal first step in the hamas handbook of apprehending lawbreakers, right ?

He is a traitor ? Really ? Did the court find him guilty of treason ?
What evidence was brought to prove that fact ?

You argue about israel not following legal proceedings ,while hamas shoot fatah on the street without any consideration of legal proceedings ... Thats hypocrisy at it's best.

Great many of fatah men where executed by hamas.
How many of them got the to speak to their lawyer ?
When hamas held them captive before execution , did they have an arrest warrant for them ? Did they have proof beyond all reasonable doubt that those men are guilty of the crimes they are accused of ?
Did they hold a trial ?

The answer for all those questions is no. They just rounded them up, blind folded them , told them to lie on the ground and emptied two ak-47 magazines on them.
Yet you have the audacity to speak about how "administrative arrests are illegal in palestine".

fatah (remember they lost the elections) was attempting to regain their losses at the point of a gun. When people are shooting at you it is not a good time to get a warrant.

The war was started by fatah and they lost.

What does it matter who started or who lost, we are talking about legal conduct.

"When people are shooting at you it is not a good time to get a warrant."
So the children of bahaa balusha where shooting at the Hamas assassins when they were killed right ?

In addition many alleged Fatah people were held captive and then executed - they were not shooting back and did not offer resistance.

Did those prisoners get a trial ? Where their alleged guilt proven ?


LiveLeak.com - Fatah leader execution caught in video tape

You shouldn't start a war if you do not want to get shot.

 

[Hossfly]

Tragedy hell. Proof that in the end truth and justice always win.

Jews are like some sort of disease running from host to host, till they are kicked out and sent to the next victim.

Did ya get lost on the way to your Bundhalle?

 

[georgephillip]

"Israel has never denied that it was behind that assassination...

georgephillip
Since when not denying something , and admitting something is the same thing ?

Another point: You condemn the Mossad for allegedly wounding the engineers wife.
However you don't seem to mind when Hamas kills 3 Palestinian children while trying to assassinate Bahaa Balusha.

Bahaa Balusha: I have left behind something very great in Gaza. My son Salam, three years old. My son Ahmed, five years old. And Usama, eight years old. The terrorists killed them before my eyes when I wanted to pick them up from school.

Interview with Fatah's Intelligence Coordinator: "It Will Be A Hot Summer" - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

A bit hypocritical in my opinion...

"06/18/2007

"Interview with Fatah's Intelligence Coordinator
"'It Will Be A Hot Summer"'

"The Hamas coup in Gaza was directed by a foreign al-Qaeda commando, according to the one of the highest-ranking intelligence officers of the Palestinian Authority. Bahaa Balusha believes Hamas will now be torn apart by internal conflicts. 'In four months they'll be gone,' he told SPIEGEL ONLINE.

Has it ever occurred to you Hamas and Fatah would've never come into existence if one-third of Palestinians hadn't imposed a Jewish state by force of arms upon their neighbors in 1948?

You and Hoss need to help clean your own styes before worrying about others.

Interview with Fatah's Intelligence Coordinator: "It Will Be A Hot Summer" - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Bahaa Balusha is a traitor who was part of the attempted coup against the elected government in Palestine. His car was shot up because he was thought to be inside.

That's okay, according to tinnie, civilian children are acceptable targets.

I didn't say that, but that's OK, you are like that.

You had no problem with your terrorist buddies firing anti-tank rockets at an Israeli school bus full of children. But that's okay, you're like that.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

tragedy hell. Proof that in the end truth and justice always win.

Jews are like some sort of disease running from host to host, till they are kicked out and sent to the next victim.

intelectaltruth eh ?
Doesn't look like you are either one ...

fatah (remember they lost the elections) was attempting to regain their losses at the point of a gun. When people are shooting at you it is not a good time to get a warrant.

The war was started by fatah and they lost.

What does it matter who started or who lost, we are talking about legal conduct.

"When people are shooting at you it is not a good time to get a warrant."
So the children of bahaa balusha where shooting at the Hamas assassins when they were killed right ?

In addition many alleged Fatah people were held captive and then executed - they were not shooting back and did not offer resistance.

Did those prisoners get a trial ? Where their alleged guilt proven ?


LiveLeak.com - Fatah leader execution caught in video tape

You shouldn't start a war if you do not want to get shot.

Tell that to Yassin.

 

[Wolverine1984]

intelectaltruth eh ?
Doesn't look like you are either one ...




What does it matter who started or who lost, we are talking about legal conduct.

"When people are shooting at you it is not a good time to get a warrant."
So the children of bahaa balusha where shooting at the Hamas assassins when they were killed right ?

In addition many alleged Fatah people were held captive and then executed - they were not shooting back and did not offer resistance.

Did those prisoners get a trial ? Where their alleged guilt proven ?


LiveLeak.com - Fatah leader execution caught in video tape

You shouldn't start a war if you do not want to get shot.

Tell that to Yassin.

And to the Hamas !

 

[Jos]

Raid on Entebbe - YouTube

Israel is recreated and strong. I consider the creation of Israel as a personal blessing from G-d and that the sustaining of Israel is my personal duty.

Documents claim Israel aided Entebbe hijack

The Israeli secret service and radical Palestinians may have engineered the hijacking of an Air France plane that flew to Entebbe in Uganda, according to a claim in newly released government documents.

This extraordinary interpretation on the Entebbe raid was cited by a British diplomat, DH Colvin of the Paris embassy, in June 30 1976 as the world was transfixed by the hostage crisis in Entebbe, which features in the recent film The Last King of Scotland.

In a document released by the National Archives, Mr Colvin, citing an unnamed contact at the Euro-Arab parliamentary association, wrote: "According to his information, the hijack was the work of the PFLP [Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine], with help from the Israeli secret service, the Shin Beit."

Documents claim Israel aided Entebbe hijack | World news | guardian.co.uk

U.K. file on Entebbe contains claim that Israel behind hijacking - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

 

[Hossfly]

Raid on Entebbe - YouTube

Israel is recreated and strong. I consider the creation of Israel as a personal blessing from G-d and that the sustaining of Israel is my personal duty.

Documents claim Israel aided Entebbe hijack

The Israeli secret service and radical Palestinians may have engineered the hijacking of an Air France plane that flew to Entebbe in Uganda, according to a claim in newly released government documents.

This extraordinary interpretation on the Entebbe raid was cited by a British diplomat, DH Colvin of the Paris embassy, in June 30 1976 as the world was transfixed by the hostage crisis in Entebbe, which features in the recent film The Last King of Scotland.

In a document released by the National Archives, Mr Colvin, citing an unnamed contact at the Euro-Arab parliamentary association, wrote: "According to his information, the hijack was the work of the PFLP [Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine], with help from the Israeli secret service, the Shin Beit."

Documents claim Israel aided Entebbe hijack | World news | guardian.co.uk

U.K. file on Entebbe contains claim that Israel behind hijacking - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

The Guardian and Ha'aretz? Supermarket Rags.

 

[Jos]

The Guardian and Ha'aretz? Supermarket Rags.

You all got a supermarket near the trailer park?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Raid on Entebbe - YouTube

Israel is recreated and strong. I consider the creation of Israel as a personal blessing from G-d and that the sustaining of Israel is my personal duty.

Documents claim Israel aided Entebbe hijack

The Israeli secret service and radical Palestinians may have engineered the hijacking of an Air France plane that flew to Entebbe in Uganda, according to a claim in newly released government documents.

This extraordinary interpretation on the Entebbe raid was cited by a British diplomat, DH Colvin of the Paris embassy, in June 30 1976 as the world was transfixed by the hostage crisis in Entebbe, which features in the recent film The Last King of Scotland.

In a document released by the National Archives, Mr Colvin, citing an unnamed contact at the Euro-Arab parliamentary association, wrote: "According to his information, the hijack was the work of the PFLP [Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine], with help from the Israeli secret service, the Shin Beit."

Documents claim Israel aided Entebbe hijack | World news | guardian.co.uk

U.K. file on Entebbe contains claim that Israel behind hijacking - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

Oh, a claim by an unnamed contact.

Well, that certainly proves it.

I heard it was Arafat's gang of gay lovers who highjacked the plane.

 

[Hossfly]

The Guardian and Ha'aretz? Supermarket Rags.

You all got a supermarket near the trailer park?

Believe it or not, down here in West by God Virginia, we even got indoor outhouses.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Guardian and Ha'aretz? Supermarket Rags.

You all got a supermarket near the trailer park?

Believe it or not, down here in West by God Virginia, we even got indoor outhouses.

If you aren't using your left hand to wipe, Jos thinks you're an infidel.

 

[Wolverine1984]

All they say in your Haretz story is

Newly released British documents contain a claim by an unnamed contact that the Shin Bet security service collaborated with the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine to hijack the June 1976 flight from Israel that was diverted to Entebbe, Uganda, the BBC reported Friday.

Since when a claim is evidence ?
People claim they saw Elvis\Jesus in a mall, doesn't mean it really happened.

 

[Hossfly]

You all got a supermarket near the trailer park?

Believe it or not, down here in West by God Virginia, we even got indoor outhouses.

If you aren't using your left hand to wipe, Jos thinks you're an infidel.

I only use my right hand when I don't have the correct amount of stones.

 

[Jos]

You all got a supermarket near the trailer park?

Believe it or not, down here in West by God Virginia, we even got indoor outhouses.

If you aren't using your left hand to wipe, Jos thinks you're an infidel.

Muslims don't use their left hand to wipe, they use it to wash, with water