Do you have a daughter?

[random3434]

Actually, what I meant to say was you couldn't NOT hire somebody based upon looks alone, lol.

And Echo, please tell me you don't teach, and that if you do, you leave your sarcastic and judgmental views outside in your car.

What will you do to me if I tell you I do teach?

Where am I judgemental, oh kettle....just because I call you out when you're wrong, you resort to name calling and bitterness.

Do you really think posting on a message board is the same as teaching special needs kids how to read, write and add? You need to get out there and experience the real world then.

Do I have a sense of humor with them? You better believe it, and they still write me letters and come visit me long after I'm not their teacher anymore.

So I think I'm doing something right. Somehow your opinion of me means nothing, but what my students think of me means the world.

Imagine that.

 

[AllieBaba]

I won't do anything to you. I am just concerned that someone so narrow minded and limited in scope is involved in teaching. Though it's pretty much what I have come to expect.

 

[random3434]

I won't do anything to you. I am just concerned that someone so narrow minded and limited in scope is involved in teaching. Though it's pretty much what I have come to expect.

Ah,hahahahahhahahaahahahahhaha~

Thanks for the laugh, I needed it after a hot day in the classroom!

I love it, I'm "narrow minded" and "limited in scope."

It's what you "come to expect!" How typical. YOU come to expect, what? What do you EXPECT? Please tell me, I'm all ears.


Now, before you get back on your high horse, why don't you go back and read the Laura Bush thread, the first page. You know the one, where someone started it saying she looked "retarded."

I posted facts about her, because I admire all she has done for education while she was in the White House. Just because I'm not a republican doesn't mean I can't respect the things she has done.

I saw you had something about how Hilliary looks, now that was classy! So keep your little comments to yourself, unless you got the meat to back them up.

 

[AllieBaba]

Don't be embarassed, I know you feel bad about the stupid "virgin" comment.

All I said about Hillary was that I used to think she was hideous, and I don't anymore. If that's the worst thing I've posted, I feel pretty good about myself.

As to the rest of your rant, it's just that, a rant.

 

[random3434]

Don't be embarassed, I know you feel bad about the stupid "virgin" comment.

All I said about Hillary was that I used to think she was hideous, and I don't anymore. If that's the worst thing I've posted, I feel pretty good about myself.

As to the rest of your rant, it's just that, a rant.

What, the comment that Disney characters play virgin like characters, so they should maintain decorum in real life? You're just mad because I brought up your idol "Hannah Montana" and her semi-nude picture, again proving you wrong. So instead of admitting you made a mistake, you resort to putting down teachers and name calling once again.

I know you have been on this board a long time, I wonder how many people agree with me and your posting "style."



Now you will come back with some comment about Adam and Eve or something, and another slam on teachers,,,,and this could go on all night. I'm done here, I'm sure we will meet up again in another thread.


Peace.

 

[AllieBaba]

Sigh. You didn't prove me "wrong." There was nothing to prove..I simply said I liked Hannah Montana. What is there to prove "wrong"? This brings to the forefront that not only are our teachers biased, they're ignorant as well.

Your "virgin" comment was idiotic, sarcastic, and frankly, a little scary considering the fact you're a teacher. And I'm afraid your comments haven't become more enlightened as you've gone along.

Another thing I find alarming in a teacher is the "pack" mentality. I don't give a rat's ass about my alleged "reputation" on the board, nor do I care how many hate me. This is the internet. It's not a classroom where you can suck up to the richest parents and target the less fortunate children and make yourself feel better about your life in doing so.

 

[random3434]

Sigh. You didn't prove me "wrong." There was nothing to prove..I simply said I liked Hannah Montana. What is there to prove "wrong"? This brings to the forefront that not only are our teachers biased, they're ignorant as well.

Your "virgin" comment was idiotic, sarcastic, and frankly, a little scary considering the fact you're a teacher. And I'm afraid your comments haven't become more enlightened as you've gone along.

Another thing I find alarming in a teacher is the "pack" mentality. I don't give a rat's ass about my alleged "reputation" on the board, nor do I care how many hate me. This is the internet. It's not a classroom where you can suck up to the richest parents and target the less fortunate children and make yourself feel better about your life in doing so.

OK, I can't let the bolded comment by the most clueless person on the USMessage Board go.....


I teach in the inner city, where EVERY child in our building is on free lunch. We are a Title 1 Building, with over 700 students.

I love how you ASSume I suck up to the RICH parents and target the less fortunate, ahahahhahahaha THANKS again for the laugh.


You can't admit you are wrong, so now you are just making up things as you go. What's next, I steal the kids lunch money while they are at recess?
Wait, you can't use that one since they EAT FOR FREE, so you'll have to come up with another lie.

And yeah, it's obvious you don't care what anyone thinks of you. I tried to be nice to you, but you make it too hard to be. One thing I can't tolerate is LIARS!

 

[AllieBaba]

Wrong about what, exactly?

I don't recall you being nice to me. Please post a link to a lie I've told.

 

[Ravi]

Allie, I don't get your point. If Hannah Montana is doing soft porn, why are you okay with that? It doesn't fit your normal persona. She's what, 13? The entire drift of this thread seems to be that young girls shouldn't dress slutty.

:insert mystified emoticon here:

 

[random3434]

[QU

OTE=Echo Zulu;739481]This is what I said:

How is that asinine and/or snotty? Do the characters on the Disney Channel not play virgin like characters?

I'll answer for you-YES!


Should those same people who play those characters on those shows pose half naked, or pose nude for the media or the internet, for the young girls and boys who watch them?


Again, I'll answer:

NO!



Now for some reason YOU seem to think it's ok. You seem to think their "tv characters" somehow trump their personal/public life, even though you think they should be role models for kids.


Also, when you are wrong, you LOVE to resort to name calling.
Is that your coping skill Alli?[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

Did you forget this?

 

[AllieBaba]

Ok, this is just devolving into some weird sort of brain fart for you.

Once again, show me where I've lied, and where I was proved "wrong" about whatever I was proved "wrong" about, according to you.

Ravi: Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus is 15. My comment was that I approved of the character of Hannah Montana and the show. I said pretty specifically that I don't slaver all over the stars themselves and I don't encourage my kids to do so, either. And Vanity Fair is not soft porn, for Pete's Sakes.

I saw girls on High School Musical wearing less than Miley was for that photo shoot. Which was my point. I appreciate the character of Hannah Montana; generally I think Disney sexualizes kids.

 

[random3434]

Originally Posted by alliebaba


I Know I'm Pretty Disgusted With Disney Channel. The Way Those Girls Dress And Act. I Know Cali Is Far Away And Different, But I'm Sorry, I Just Don't Want My Little Girl To Dress In Sequins, Spandex And Belly- And Ass-showing Clothing.

Hannah Montana Doesn't, Thank Goodness.

 

[AllieBaba]

And this is evidence of.....what, exactly?

I thought I made it pretty clear that when I talk about Hannah Montana I'm talking about a fictional tv character on Disney Channel. Maybe you should take some more summer classes so you can distinguish between fictional characters and the actors who play them.

 

[Paulie]

A lot of girls associate Miley with Hannah. They watch Hannah, and then they follow Miley's life in the tabloids, on TV, on the internet, etc. They are one and the same to most little girls, and those little girls don't have the same ability to differentiate between the two and reason with that fact. You can tell them all you want, but they will do what's popular. And what's popular right now, for some reason, is worshipping the ground that Miley Cyrus walks on. And it all started with Hannah Montana.

The best you can do is keep talking to your kids and stay active in their lives. It's a constant struggle trying to get your insight to compete with the pull from their peers. It took me until I was in my 20's to realize who was right in that regard.

 

[AllieBaba]

True enough, but that isn't what I was referring to. I'm able to make a distinction between the two, I'd think a teacher should be able to distinguish between the two. My comment was simply that Hannah Montana is a good show, which it is, because the girl isn't sexualized in the show...unlike most other Disney shows. THat's all. Then Zulu said some rude crap about expecting only virginal girls to be portrayed or some such nonsense and went off the deep end.

BTW, Zulu, you still haven't said what I was wrong about, nor have you posted a lie I've told?

 

[Shattered]

Actually, what I meant to say was you couldn't NOT hire somebody based upon looks alone, lol.

And Echo, please tell me you don't teach, and that if you do, you leave your sarcastic and judgmental views outside in your car.

Again.. Wanna bet? Someone can come in and be very well qualified for a job with me. But, if they come in looking like a tramp, or are covered in tattoos, and project an overall negative, or bad self image, they STILL aren't getting hired. That's not the image I'm looking to portray.

 

[Paulie]

I guess what I'm saying is it really doesn't matter that adults can differentiate between the two. Most little girls can't. And they're the ones we're REALLY worried about, right? How much does it really matter if one of us doesn't quite get the context of the discussion? The fact of the matter is little girls are out there imitating the antics of Miley Cyrus, regardless of how innocent she is portrayed in her TV show character.

Her life is wide open for everyone, and that comes with celeb status. She's got a sort of responsibility to the children who look up to her, in a way. But let's not single HER out, because she certainly isn't the first one of her kind.

 

[AllieBaba]

Yeah, well good luck explaining to the teacher's union that you didn't hire suck-gut numb-nuts because you thought he looked like a child molester.

Whoops..that was in response to SHattered's comment, above, about hiring or not hiring on basis of appearance.

 

[AllieBaba]

I guess what I'm saying is it really doesn't matter that adults can differentiate between the two. Most little girls can't. And they're the ones we're REALLY worried about, right? How much does it really matter if one of us doesn't quite get the context of the discussion? The fact of the matter is little girls are out there imitating the antics of Miley Cyrus, regardless of how innocent she is portrayed in her TV show character.

Her life is wide open for everyone, and that comes with celeb status. She's got a sort of responsibility to the children who look up to her, in a way. But let's not single HER out, because she certainly isn't the first one of her kind.

I don't agree. I made a simple comment...Hannah Montana is a decent show, one of the few on Disney. That has nothing to do with the fact that Miley Cyrus let her back be photographed. It's a comment about the sexualization of young girls on that particular network, and a comment about that particular show. My 6 year old doesn't read Vanity Fair. She doesn't watch TMZ. She watches Disney Channel and Hannah Montana is one of the best things going at this particular time. My comment didn't have anything to do with the behavior of starlets. It was simply directed at the sexualization of children on shows which are marketed for children.

 

[CA95380]

Yeah, well good luck explaining to the teacher's union that you didn't hire suck-gut numb-nuts because you thought he looked like a child molester.

suck-gut numb-nuts should have been a good "heads up" BEFORE he/she/it was hired --- during the interview! Then investigated! So they would be STOPPED from going to school after school getting hired.

Too many people NOT doing their jobs! "Pay me the money ... I don't care who gets hired we need teachers!"

BS!!!!! Give me a break!!