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thank you for proving you are also delusional.
did mr t come up with his catch phrase after watching you post?
Nixon vs. U.S ever heard of that Jillian? I cannot believe that you are defending obama and holder over this?
You can't?
Jillian is just a little more partisan, and a little less rational, than Truthmatters. I cannot imagine her doing anything other than defending Obama and Holder.
Party above all. "Integrity" is not a word nor a concept Jillian has and familiarity with.
Jillian, a lawyer? Yeah, right. She may have watched a "Law & Order" rerun - but that's as close to the law as she will get.
Jillian is a hack, a partisan stooge. She posts what she does to further the aims of the party. Law has no bearing on what she posts, nor does she have an particular grasp of the law. She will say anything to protect and promote the democrats - that is the entire story.
Jillian is the only person I know in real life for real on this board. not only is she a lawyer, but she is a very successful one
How do you know when somebody loses an argument? look up the word ad hominem Uncensored. I always thought you a baffoon..but to advertise it on a messageboard, well, why not? Once a dumb motherfucker, always a dumb motherfucker...
Just a word of advice? If you're going to call someone "dumb" it's best to not do it in a post where you use baffoon instead of buffoon. Just saying...
actually. the executive privilege claim is about givng the finger to issa and his fellow rightwingnut hacks.
they interviewed holder 7 times. they had piles and piles of documents. the emails they wanted had nothing to do with the death of the officer. and they still could have seen everything if they stopped the rightwingnut hack stuff and dropped the contempt nonsense. if they were interested in "fast and furious*, they'd have subpoenaed Mukasey... in whose justice department UNDER BUSH, the program started.
oh... and stop telling people they shouldn't comment on our politics. or feel free to stop mentioning any country other than the U.S.
mmmkay?
With all due respect, Jillian? You as a lawyer should be well aware of the reason WHY most people get interviewed numerous times...namely that their story hasn't checked out. Holder originally told the Congressional investigating committee that he had only heard about Fast & Furious "several weeks" before the story broke only to have e-mails surface that had him discussing Fast & Furious nine MONTHS earlier. To be quite blunt...Eric Holder got caught in a bald faced lie. As for the "piles and piles" of documents that the DOJ has turned over? Also as a lawyer you should be well aware of that little game...namely inundating your opponent with reams of inconsequential information while holding back what they are actually seeking. The committee wants to know WHO in the DOJ knew about Fast & Furious and WHEN it is they knew it. Attorney General Holder has stone walled that effort from the get go. THAT is why contempt charges are being sought against him.
As for a subpoena for Mukasey? Why...so he could tell the committee why Operation Wide Receiver was stopped by the Bush Administration? I'm sorry but the OBAMA DOJ under Eric Holder decided to restart a program that had been halted by a previous administration because it was shown that even with the cooperation of Mexican authorities that they couldn't keep track of where the guns were going...but Holder's people then took it much further...not informing the Mexican authorities that they were going to let guns walk and NOT EVEN ATTEMPTING TO MAKE ARRESTS.
for the record, my objection is not to holder having to answer questions. when things go bad, they always have to get explained.
my objection is to issa, who promised an investigation a day, using something which should be bi-partisan to score political points and try to embarrass holder, who the right has had an issue with from day one.
i also have issues with them allowing a conspiracy theorist like the "break their windows not" blogger, to influence the actions of our political machine.
as for mukasey... if you have credible evidence that the bush admin stopped their program of "gun walking", then i would very much like to see it. but given that the program was the same, he should speak to it as well. bi-partisan actionl; bi-partisan investigation instead of opportunistic nonsense by issa and friends.
it is often true, even in our own domestic investigations, that criminal activity is allowed as a means to obtain evidence against bigger and bigger fish. i don't think this was any different.
thank you for proving you are also delusional.
Actually Jillian, quite a number of people finished Jr. High, thus exceeding your educational prowess.
did mr t come up with his catch phrase after watching you post?
Did you fail 2nd grade grammar, whilst they taught of capitalization and punctuation?
You should have stuck it out through 7th grade, it really would have helped you...
thank you for proving you are also delusional.
Actually Jillian, quite a number of people finished Jr. High, thus exceeding your educational prowess.
did mr t come up with his catch phrase after watching you post?
Did you fail 2nd grade grammar, whilst they taught of capitalization and punctuation?
You should have stuck it out through 7th grade, it really would have helped you...
Oh, wow! We have an English teacher in our midst..
The sure sign of a failed argument...picking on grammar...whoops!
With all due respect, Jillian? You as a lawyer should be well aware of the reason WHY most people get interviewed numerous times...namely that their story hasn't checked out. Holder originally told the Congressional investigating committee that he had only heard about Fast & Furious "several weeks" before the story broke only to have e-mails surface that had him discussing Fast & Furious nine MONTHS earlier. To be quite blunt...Eric Holder got caught in a bald faced lie. As for the "piles and piles" of documents that the DOJ has turned over? Also as a lawyer you should be well aware of that little game...namely inundating your opponent with reams of inconsequential information while holding back what they are actually seeking. The committee wants to know WHO in the DOJ knew about Fast & Furious and WHEN it is they knew it. Attorney General Holder has stone walled that effort from the get go. THAT is why contempt charges are being sought against him.
As for a subpoena for Mukasey? Why...so he could tell the committee why Operation Wide Receiver was stopped by the Bush Administration? I'm sorry but the OBAMA DOJ under Eric Holder decided to restart a program that had been halted by a previous administration because it was shown that even with the cooperation of Mexican authorities that they couldn't keep track of where the guns were going...but Holder's people then took it much further...not informing the Mexican authorities that they were going to let guns walk and NOT EVEN ATTEMPTING TO MAKE ARRESTS.
Jillian is a lawyer? LOL. I don't believe that.
With posts like she is making here lately it does strain credibility a bit.
The next thing she'll tell me is that she "buys" Holder's excuse that he "misunderstood the question" when he was originally asked when it was he heard about Fast & Furious. This is a man who has graduated from Harvard Law School...been appointed as a Federal judge and as the Attorney General of the United States but he can't understand a question as straight forward as that? I find that almost as humorous as Timmy Geithner blaming a bad tax return on his not being able to figure out Turbo Tax!
Actually Jillian, quite a number of people finished Jr. High, thus exceeding your educational prowess.
Did you fail 2nd grade grammar, whilst they taught of capitalization and punctuation?
You should have stuck it out through 7th grade, it really would have helped you...
Oh, wow! We have an English teacher in our midst..
The sure sign of a failed argument...picking on grammar...whoops!
i rarely use caps when i post.
i'm sorry english is too difficult for him to follow.
With all due respect, Jillian? You as a lawyer
Jillian, a lawyer? Yeah, right. She may have watched a "Law & Order" rerun - but that's as close to the law as she will get.
should be well aware of the reason WHY most people get interviewed numerous times...namely that their story hasn't checked out. Holder originally told the Congressional investigating committee that he had only heard about Fast & Furious "several weeks" before the story broke only to have e-mails surface that had him discussing Fast & Furious nine MONTHS earlier. To be quite blunt...Eric Holder got caught in a bald faced lie. As for the "piles and piles" of documents that the DOJ has turned over? Also as a lawyer you should be well aware of that little game...namely inundating your opponent with reams of inconsequential information while holding back what they are actually seeking. The committee wants to know WHO in the DOJ knew about Fast & Furious and WHEN it is they knew it. Attorney General Holder has stone walled that effort from the get go. THAT is why contempt charges are being sought against him.
As for a subpoena for Mukasey? Why...so he could tell the committee why Operation Wide Receiver was stopped by the Bush Administration? I'm sorry but the OBAMA DOJ under Eric Holder decided to restart a program that had been halted by a previous administration because it was shown that even with the cooperation of Mexican authorities that they couldn't keep track of where the guns were going...but Holder's people then took it much further...not informing the Mexican authorities that they were going to let guns walk and NOT EVEN ATTEMPTING TO MAKE ARRESTS.
Jillian is a hack, a partisan stooge. She posts what she does to further the aims of the party. Law has no bearing on what she posts, nor does she have an particular grasp of the law. She will say anything to protect and promote the democrats - that is the entire story.
Actually Jillian, quite a number of people finished Jr. High, thus exceeding your educational prowess.
Did you fail 2nd grade grammar, whilst they taught of capitalization and punctuation?
You should have stuck it out through 7th grade, it really would have helped you...
Oh, wow! We have an English teacher in our midst..
The sure sign of a failed argument...picking on grammar...whoops!
i rarely use caps when i post.
i'm sorry english is too difficult for him to follow.
Issa is trying to get to the truth for the American people and the Terry family. Obama and Holder are telling both the Terry family and the American people to. If they have nothing to hide why are they hiding it? Issa is doing the job he was elected to do. Oversight.. if you can't take it, don't dish it.. Karma for democrats.
Oh, wow! We have an English teacher in our midst..
The sure sign of a failed argument...picking on grammar...whoops!
i rarely use caps when i post.
i'm sorry english is too difficult for him to follow.
Following English is the least of his problems. (you like my gramar now? put in caps, and a 'full-stop' - that's Aussie/NZ speak for 'period')...
Do a search on Uncensored's posts. Full of insults and pathetic putdowns. Not interested in debate, just to show is "superior" intellect. Had a programme on psychopaths down here two nights ago. He fits the profile to a T....
Issa is trying to get to the truth for the American people and the Terry family. Obama and Holder are telling both the Terry family and the American people to
Issa has partisan motives, there is no question of this. IF Jillian were actually a lawyer, or had any familiarity at all with the American system of jurisprudence, then the concept of adversarial advocacy would be one she had encountered. Just as in a court of law, where we depend on adversarial counsel to ferret out the truth of a matter, we depend on adversarial politics to expose unsavory or criminal acts by the opposition party. Issa's motives are irrelevant, the pubic is served by his zeal to uncover the truth.
But Jillian grasps none of this, because the closest she has been to legal training is watching reruns of "Law & Order" while eating Bon Bons on her couch in her trailer.
actually. the executive privilege claim is about givng the finger to issa and his fellow rightwingnut hacks.
they interviewed holder 7 times. they had piles and piles of documents. the emails they wanted had nothing to do with the death of the officer. and they still could have seen everything if they stopped the rightwingnut hack stuff and dropped the contempt nonsense. if they were interested in "fast and furious*, they'd have subpoenaed Mukasey... in whose justice department UNDER BUSH, the program started.
oh... and stop telling people they shouldn't comment on our politics. or feel free to stop mentioning any country other than the U.S.
mmmkay?
With all due respect, Jillian? You as a lawyer should be well aware of the reason WHY most people get interviewed numerous times...namely that their story hasn't checked out. Holder originally told the Congressional investigating committee that he had only heard about Fast & Furious "several weeks" before the story broke only to have e-mails surface that had him discussing Fast & Furious nine MONTHS earlier. To be quite blunt...Eric Holder got caught in a bald faced lie. As for the "piles and piles" of documents that the DOJ has turned over? Also as a lawyer you should be well aware of that little game...namely inundating your opponent with reams of inconsequential information while holding back what they are actually seeking. The committee wants to know WHO in the DOJ knew about Fast & Furious and WHEN it is they knew it. Attorney General Holder has stone walled that effort from the get go. THAT is why contempt charges are being sought against him.
As for a subpoena for Mukasey? Why...so he could tell the committee why Operation Wide Receiver was stopped by the Bush Administration? I'm sorry but the OBAMA DOJ under Eric Holder decided to restart a program that had been halted by a previous administration because it was shown that even with the cooperation of Mexican authorities that they couldn't keep track of where the guns were going...but Holder's people then took it much further...not informing the Mexican authorities that they were going to let guns walk and NOT EVEN ATTEMPTING TO MAKE ARRESTS.
for the record, my objection is not to holder having to answer questions. when things go bad, they always have to get explained.
my objection is to issa, who promised an investigation a day, using something which should be bi-partisan to score political points and try to embarrass holder, who the right has had an issue with from day one.
i also have issues with them allowing a conspiracy theorist like the "break their windows not" blogger, to influence the actions of our political machine.
as for mukasey... if you have credible evidence that the bush admin stopped their program of "gun walking", then i would very much like to see it. but given that the program was the same, he should speak to it as well. bi-partisan actionl; bi-partisan investigation instead of opportunistic nonsense by issa and friends.
it is often true, even in our own domestic investigations, that criminal activity is allowed as a means to obtain evidence against bigger and bigger fish. i don't think this was any different.
Issa is trying to get to the truth for the American people and the Terry family. Obama and Holder are telling both the Terry family and the American people to
Issa has partisan motives, there is no question of this. IF Jillian were actually a lawyer, or had any familiarity at all with the American system of jurisprudence, then the concept of adversarial advocacy would be one she had encountered. Just as in a court of law, where we depend on adversarial counsel to ferret out the truth of a matter, we depend on adversarial politics to expose unsavory or criminal acts by the opposition party. Issa's motives are irrelevant, the pubic is served by his zeal to uncover the truth.
But Jillian grasps none of this, because the closest she has been to legal training is watching reruns of "Law & Order" while eating Bon Bons on her couch in her trailer.
Issa is trying to get to the truth for the American people and the Terry family. Obama and Holder are telling both the Terry family and the American people to
Issa has partisan motives, there is no question of this. IF Jillian were actually a lawyer, or had any familiarity at all with the American system of jurisprudence, then the concept of adversarial advocacy would be one she had encountered. Just as in a court of law, where we depend on adversarial counsel to ferret out the truth of a matter, we depend on adversarial politics to expose unsavory or criminal acts by the opposition party. Issa's motives are irrelevant, the pubic is served by his zeal to uncover the truth.
But Jillian grasps none of this, because the closest she has been to legal training is watching reruns of "Law & Order" while eating Bon Bons on her couch in her trailer.
Give Jillian a break After all, the trailer is a double wide.
i rarely use caps when i post.
i'm sorry english is too difficult for him to follow.
Following English is the least of his problems. (you like my gramar now? put in caps, and a 'full-stop' - that's Aussie/NZ speak for 'period')...
Do a search on Uncensored's posts. Full of insults and pathetic putdowns. Not interested in debate, just to show is "superior" intellect. Had a programme on psychopaths down here two nights ago. He fits the profile to a T....
Pot here's kettle.
Issa is trying to get to the truth for the American people and the Terry family. Obama and Holder are telling both the Terry family and the American people to
Issa has partisan motives, there is no question of this. IF Jillian were actually a lawyer, or had any familiarity at all with the American system of jurisprudence, then the concept of adversarial advocacy would be one she had encountered. Just as in a court of law, where we depend on adversarial counsel to ferret out the truth of a matter, we depend on adversarial politics to expose unsavory or criminal acts by the opposition party. Issa's motives are irrelevant, the pubic is served by his zeal to uncover the truth.
But Jillian grasps none of this, because the closest she has been to legal training is watching reruns of "Law & Order" while eating Bon Bons on her couch in her trailer.
Uncensored in my opinion I believe jillian is a lawyer. The problem she is facing is that she is allowing her politics to override her better judgement. It happens we are all human.
Noe the facts are obama and holder are covering up what they know about Fast and the furious.
My opinion about that is someone mentioned gun control and using fast and the furious to get it in those memos and that's what obama is hiding.
I don't subscribe to the nutty NRA conspiricy theory.
It doesn't take a rocket-scientist to figure out what happens when you give military grade light armor defeating weapons to criminals.
There is no excuse for this type of activity, and the Administration knows it. That is the reason they're covering this up.
Fast and Furious High-Powered Assault Weapons Were Seized at Drug Cartel Enforcers Home | The Gateway Pundit
Did you know Fast and Furious guns brought down a military helicopter? - National drug cartel | Examiner.com
Mexican Military Helicopter Shot Down With BATF .50 Caliber Rifle Sold to Drug Cartels : Deadline Live With Jack Blood
Mexico Gun-Running Operation Enhanced Cartels
There is no cover-up. There is no conspircy. It's a political witch hunt in an election year to stir the shit pot and inflame the ditto-base.
Issa is trying to get to the truth for the American people and the Terry family. Obama and Holder are telling both the Terry family and the American people to
Issa has partisan motives, there is no question of this. IF Jillian were actually a lawyer, or had any familiarity at all with the American system of jurisprudence, then the concept of adversarial advocacy would be one she had encountered. Just as in a court of law, where we depend on adversarial counsel to ferret out the truth of a matter, we depend on adversarial politics to expose unsavory or criminal acts by the opposition party. Issa's motives are irrelevant, the pubic is served by his zeal to uncover the truth.
But Jillian grasps none of this, because the closest she has been to legal training is watching reruns of "Law & Order" while eating Bon Bons on her couch in her trailer.
Give Jillian a break After all, the trailer is a double wide.
