Does anyone seriously believe Jesus would celebrate Christmas if he could return?

Jrsus already gave gifts to everyone...


He gave everyone the asshole idea that they are all born dirty, filthy, sinfull creatures who can only be saved by canibalism and vampire rituals.

But seriously, mistaking myth for reality or mistaking myth for a lie is to miss the forest for the trees
 
Na. He would be to busey throwing money changers out of the temple.

What temple would that be?

Sears, JC Pennys, Macys, Walmart, Target for starters, then 90% of all denominatons and sects of Christian churches, as well as Jewish synagogs (yes sp!).

Gawd, I can't believe I have to explain to you...

Supposedly,
Jesus was NOT upset over money changers, he was upset they set upshop in the house of his father...the religious sacred temple.

:eusa_shhh:

Are you saying you view commercial entities as sacred temples and are you saying money changers are actually in (set up shop) the churches and synagogues?
:cuckoo:
 
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What temple would that be?

Sears, JC Pennys, Macys, Walmart, Target for starters, then 90% of all denominatons and sects of Christian churches, as well as Jewish synagogs (yes sp!).

Gawd, I can't believe I have to explain to you...

Supposedly,
Jesus was NOT upset over money changers, he was upset they set upshop in the house of his father...the religious sacred temple.

:eusa_shhh:

Are you saying you view commercial entities as sacred temples and are you saying money changers are actually in (set up shop) the churches and synagogues?
:cuckoo:

Thees days yes. Go read why Jesus was pissed again. Want because sheckles were changeing hands.
 
Sears, JC Pennys, Macys, Walmart, Target for starters, then 90% of all denominatons and sects of Christian churches, as well as Jewish synagogs (yes sp!).

Gawd, I can't believe I have to explain to you...

Supposedly,
Jesus was NOT upset over money changers, he was upset they set upshop in the house of his father...the religious sacred temple.

:eusa_shhh:

Are you saying you view commercial entities as sacred temples and are you saying money changers are actually in (set up shop) the churches and synagogues?
:cuckoo:

Thees days yes. Go read why Jesus was pissed again. Want because sheckles were changeing hands.

It was supposed to be a house of prayer. You go there to pray to God and what do you hear? You hear people exchanging money and you hear animals that weren't supposed to be there. They were keeping the poor from comming because the poor didn't have enough money and they were keeping people from praying because of all the distractions.
 
Do I, a Catholic, think Jesus would celebrate Christmas if/when he returns?
No.
I'll just assume we're treating Revelation as an example of what happens when an Apostle starts hallucinating for real, and that Jesus would be back before the apocalypse. If not, this thread is pointless because I get the feeling nobody would give a darn about Christmas during the end of the world.

First off, is everyone aware that Jesus probably wasn't born on Christmas? I recall reading somwhere a long time ago that he was probably born sometime in the summer. Secondly, early christians celebrated Christmas when they did so that they could get away with celebrating Jesus' birth without getting killed by Romans (they already had enough problems with that). So yes, when we christians celebrate Christmas, we are actually celebrating a pagan festival. My third point is this, why would Jesus want to celebrate Christmas anyway? He is the flipping Son of God afterall! What use does he have of toys and gifts, anyway? This is the guy who supposedly fed five thousand with a couple of fish and some bread!
 
My third point is this, why would Jesus want to celebrate Christmas anyway? He is the flipping Son of God afterall! What use does he have of toys and gifts, anyway? This is the guy who supposedly fed five thousand with a couple of fish and some bread!

I think you should drive through one of these drive through Nativities this year. You might actually find that the angels celebrated Jesus' birth which made a precedent for worship.

Christmas is celebrated because of the gift of salvation that Jesus brings.

Revelation 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

Where do you think we get 12 days of Christmas from?

There is all kinds of symbolism for Christmas.
 
Sears, JC Pennys, Macys, Walmart, Target for starters, then 90% of all denominatons and sects of Christian churches, as well as Jewish synagogs (yes sp!).

Gawd, I can't believe I have to explain to you...

Supposedly,
Jesus was NOT upset over money changers, he was upset they set upshop in the house of his father...the religious sacred temple.

:eusa_shhh:

Are you saying you view commercial entities as sacred temples and are you saying money changers are actually in (set up shop) the churches and synagogues?
:cuckoo:

Thees days yes. Go read why Jesus was pissed again. Want because sheckles were changeing hands.

I guess where you fail is assuming the anology of commercialism being a modern day religion can be joined to Jesus Christ beiing the head of Capitalism. :lol:

As the myth goes, Jesus was not concerned about "unto Ceasar"
 
Gawd, I can't believe I have to explain to you...

Supposedly,
Jesus was NOT upset over money changers, he was upset they set upshop in the house of his father...the religious sacred temple.

:eusa_shhh:

Are you saying you view commercial entities as sacred temples and are you saying money changers are actually in (set up shop) the churches and synagogues?
:cuckoo:

Thees days yes. Go read why Jesus was pissed again. Want because sheckles were changeing hands.

It was supposed to be a house of prayer. You go there to pray to God and what do you hear? You hear people exchanging money and you hear animals that weren't supposed to be there. They were keeping the poor from comming because the poor didn't have enough money and they were keeping people from praying because of all the distractions.

You too fail, only a bigger fail.

While it is appropriate to posit commercialism being the new religion, curly fails in he assumes Jesus would be upset worshippers of another religion or even Christians would allow money changers in their new temples.

You too enter into accepting Jesus being concerned with what goes on in the temple(s) of another religion. :eek:
 
Do I, a Catholic, think Jesus would celebrate Christmas if/when he returns?
No.
I'll just assume we're treating Revelation as an example of what happens when an Apostle starts hallucinating for real, and that Jesus would be back before the apocalypse. If not, this thread is pointless because I get the feeling nobody would give a darn about Christmas during the end of the world.

First off, is everyone aware that Jesus probably wasn't born on Christmas? I recall reading somwhere a long time ago that he was probably born sometime in the summer. Secondly, early christians celebrated Christmas when they did so that they could get away with celebrating Jesus' birth without getting killed by Romans (they already had enough problems with that). So yes, when we christians celebrate Christmas, we are actually celebrating a pagan festival. My third point is this, why would Jesus want to celebrate Christmas anyway? He is the flipping Son of God afterall! What use does he have of toys and gifts, anyway? This is the guy who supposedly fed five thousand with a couple of fish and some bread!

:lol:
Not bad,,, :clap2: ...not bad at all.

:thewave:

btw, mockery is a most sincere form of flattery
:cool:
 
My third point is this, why would Jesus want to celebrate Christmas anyway? He is the flipping Son of God afterall! What use does he have of toys and gifts, anyway? This is the guy who supposedly fed five thousand with a couple of fish and some bread!

I think you should drive through one of these drive through Nativities this year. You might actually find that the angels celebrated Jesus' birth which made a precedent for worship.

Christmas is celebrated because of the gift of salvation that Jesus brings.

Revelation 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

Where do you think we get 12 days of Christmas from?

There is all kinds of symbolism for Christmas.


Nativities (drive throughs at that!) as historical research?

:rofl:

This is why Dante personally opposes the liberal war on xmas....christians during christmas are very entertaining :laugh2:
 
I think that Jesus would feed the multipudes from a single loaf of fruit cake and a six pack of Coke. Then he would hand out Red Ryder BB guns to all the kids. Then he would join in with everyone singing "The Little drummer Boy", and would solo the "Rppppabam" parts. He would break cookies with Santa, and tell him to drink the milk, which is his blood. Finally, he would accend through the chimney (or the kitchen vent if there is no chimney) while proclaiming, "A Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!" He might stop on the way to preach tolerance to the reindeer who laughed and called Roudolf names....
 
I think that Jesus would feed the multipudes from a single loaf of fruit cake and a six pack of Coke. Then he would hand out Red Ryder BB guns to all the kids. Then he would join in with everyone singing "The Little drummer Boy", and would solo the "Rppppabam" parts. He would break cookies with Santa, and tell him to drink the milk, which is his blood. Finally, he would accend through the chimney (or the kitchen vent if there is no chimney) while proclaiming, "A Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!" He might stop on the way to preach tolerance to the reindeer who laughed and called Roudolf names....

But what about scrooge and tiny tim and George in Pottersville?
 

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