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Does the corruption ever end with the Trumps?
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Who's paying Biden's family when they're campaigning for him?
Billy_Kinetta
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Trump Campaign Chief Is Funneling Pay To Eric Trump's Wife, Don Jr.'s Girlfriend: Report
It's gonna get real interesting!
You got him now!
okfine
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Donnie Juniors' old gold digging GF. Is she smarter than a brick?Trump Campaign Chief Is Funneling Pay To Eric Trump’s Wife, Don Jr.’s Girlfriend: Report
Payments are made through Brad Parscale’s company, The New York Times reported.
Trump Campaign Chief Is Funneling Pay To Eric Trump's Wife, Don Jr.'s Girlfriend: Report | HuffPost
President Donald Trump’s campaign manager is quietly channeling money to Eric Trump’s wife, Lara Trump, and Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle, The New York Times reported Monday.
The millions upon millions tax payers pay to his hotels and golfing venues, the millions upon millions tax payers are paying to cabinet members and his tax paid lawyers and now this. Donors paying the Trump family..One thing is certain, these mf's love money more than anything in the world.....money is the root to all evil, just ask a Trump
Folks, if this was a democrat, heads and dicks would roll.
"Guilfoyle last year angrily confronted Parscale about late checks owed to her, two witnesses told the Times."
Papageorgio
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Trump Campaign Chief Is Funneling Pay To Eric Trump’s Wife, Don Jr.’s Girlfriend: Report
Payments are made through Brad Parscale’s company, The New York Times reported.
Trump Campaign Chief Is Funneling Pay To Eric Trump's Wife, Don Jr.'s Girlfriend: Report | HuffPost
President Donald Trump’s campaign manager is quietly channeling money to Eric Trump’s wife, Lara Trump, and Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle, The New York Times reported Monday.
The millions upon millions tax payers pay to his hotels and golfing venues, the millions upon millions tax payers are paying to cabinet members and his tax paid lawyers and now this. Donors paying the Trump family..One thing is certain, these mf's love money more than anything in the world.....money is the root to all evil, just ask a Trump
Folks, if this was a democrat, heads and dicks would roll.
So an anonymous source to the NYT is now considered real evidence? Funny that CNN or at least MSNBC hasn't jumped on it. AOC and Pelosi haven't mentioned it, I wonder why?
Maybe the issue is that the two women in question work for the Trump campaign and are getting paid to work for the Trump campaign., which is considered legal. I know Lara has been campaigning and giving speeches in favor or voting for Trump.
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What kind of person gets upset when someone owes them money? That’s just crazy.Donnie Juniors' old gold digging GF. Is she smarter than a brick?Trump Campaign Chief Is Funneling Pay To Eric Trump’s Wife, Don Jr.’s Girlfriend: Report
Payments are made through Brad Parscale’s company, The New York Times reported.
Trump Campaign Chief Is Funneling Pay To Eric Trump's Wife, Don Jr.'s Girlfriend: Report | HuffPost
President Donald Trump’s campaign manager is quietly channeling money to Eric Trump’s wife, Lara Trump, and Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle, The New York Times reported Monday.
The millions upon millions tax payers pay to his hotels and golfing venues, the millions upon millions tax payers are paying to cabinet members and his tax paid lawyers and now this. Donors paying the Trump family..One thing is certain, these mf's love money more than anything in the world.....money is the root to all evil, just ask a Trump
Folks, if this was a democrat, heads and dicks would roll.
"Guilfoyle last year angrily confronted Parscale about late checks owed to her, two witnesses told the Times."
Nostra
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James Biden
HillStone International, a subsidiary of the huge construction management firm Hill International. The president of HillStone International was Kevin Justice, who grew up in Delaware and was a longtime Biden family friend. On Nov. 4, 2010, according to White House visitors’ logs, Justice visited the White House and met with Biden adviser Michele Smith in the Office of the Vice President.
“Profiles in corruption” by Peter Schweizer
Less than three weeks later, HillStone announced that James Biden would be joining the firm as an executive vice president. James appeared to have little or no background in housing construction, but that did not seem to matter to HillStone. His bio on the company’s website noted his “40 years of experience dealing with principals in business, political, legal and financial circles across the nation and internationally…”
James Biden was joining HillStone just as the firm was starting negotiations to win a massive contract in war-torn Iraq. Six months later, the firm announced a contract to build 100,000 homes. It was part of a $35 billion, 500,000-unit project deal won by TRAC Development, a South Korean company. HillStone also received a $22 million US federal government contract to manage a construction project for the State Department.
David Richter, son of the parent company’s founder, was not shy in explaining HillStone’s success in securing government contracts. It really helps, he told investors at a private meeting, to have “the brother of the vice president as a partner,” according to someone who was there.
The Iraq project was massive, perhaps the single most lucrative project for the firm ever. In 2012, Charlie Gasparino of Fox Business reported that HillStone officials expected the project to “generate $1.5 billion in revenues over the next three years.” That amounted to more than three times the revenue the company produced in 2011.
A group of minority partners, including James Biden, stood to split about $735 million. “There’s plenty of money for everyone if this project goes through,” said one company official.
The deal was all set, but HillStone made a crucial error. In 2013, the firm was forced to back out of the contract because of a series of problems, including a lack of experience by Hill and TRAC Development, its South Korean associate firm. But HillStone continued doing significant contract work in the embattled country, including a six-year contract with the US Army Corps of Engineers.
James Biden remained with Hill International, which accumulated contracts from the federal government for dozens of projects, including projects in the United States, Puerto Rico, Mozambique and elsewhere.
HillStone International, a subsidiary of the huge construction management firm Hill International. The president of HillStone International was Kevin Justice, who grew up in Delaware and was a longtime Biden family friend. On Nov. 4, 2010, according to White House visitors’ logs, Justice visited the White House and met with Biden adviser Michele Smith in the Office of the Vice President.
“Profiles in corruption” by Peter Schweizer
Less than three weeks later, HillStone announced that James Biden would be joining the firm as an executive vice president. James appeared to have little or no background in housing construction, but that did not seem to matter to HillStone. His bio on the company’s website noted his “40 years of experience dealing with principals in business, political, legal and financial circles across the nation and internationally…”
James Biden was joining HillStone just as the firm was starting negotiations to win a massive contract in war-torn Iraq. Six months later, the firm announced a contract to build 100,000 homes. It was part of a $35 billion, 500,000-unit project deal won by TRAC Development, a South Korean company. HillStone also received a $22 million US federal government contract to manage a construction project for the State Department.
David Richter, son of the parent company’s founder, was not shy in explaining HillStone’s success in securing government contracts. It really helps, he told investors at a private meeting, to have “the brother of the vice president as a partner,” according to someone who was there.
The Iraq project was massive, perhaps the single most lucrative project for the firm ever. In 2012, Charlie Gasparino of Fox Business reported that HillStone officials expected the project to “generate $1.5 billion in revenues over the next three years.” That amounted to more than three times the revenue the company produced in 2011.
A group of minority partners, including James Biden, stood to split about $735 million. “There’s plenty of money for everyone if this project goes through,” said one company official.
The deal was all set, but HillStone made a crucial error. In 2013, the firm was forced to back out of the contract because of a series of problems, including a lack of experience by Hill and TRAC Development, its South Korean associate firm. But HillStone continued doing significant contract work in the embattled country, including a six-year contract with the US Army Corps of Engineers.
James Biden remained with Hill International, which accumulated contracts from the federal government for dozens of projects, including projects in the United States, Puerto Rico, Mozambique and elsewhere.
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LOL..you accuse others of deflecting on your Biden threads when they bring up Trump and here you are doing exactly what you accuse others of doing. Stick to the OP. The OP concerns the Trump family of grifters and not Biden.James Biden
HillStone International, a subsidiary of the huge construction management firm Hill International. The president of HillStone International was Kevin Justice, who grew up in Delaware and was a longtime Biden family friend. On Nov. 4, 2010, according to White House visitors’ logs, Justice visited the White House and met with Biden adviser Michele Smith in the Office of the Vice President.
“Profiles in corruption” by Peter Schweizer
Less than three weeks later, HillStone announced that James Biden would be joining the firm as an executive vice president. James appeared to have little or no background in housing construction, but that did not seem to matter to HillStone. His bio on the company’s website noted his “40 years of experience dealing with principals in business, political, legal and financial circles across the nation and internationally…”
James Biden was joining HillStone just as the firm was starting negotiations to win a massive contract in war-torn Iraq. Six months later, the firm announced a contract to build 100,000 homes. It was part of a $35 billion, 500,000-unit project deal won by TRAC Development, a South Korean company. HillStone also received a $22 million US federal government contract to manage a construction project for the State Department.
David Richter, son of the parent company’s founder, was not shy in explaining HillStone’s success in securing government contracts. It really helps, he told investors at a private meeting, to have “the brother of the vice president as a partner,” according to someone who was there.
The Iraq project was massive, perhaps the single most lucrative project for the firm ever. In 2012, Charlie Gasparino of Fox Business reported that HillStone officials expected the project to “generate $1.5 billion in revenues over the next three years.” That amounted to more than three times the revenue the company produced in 2011.
A group of minority partners, including James Biden, stood to split about $735 million. “There’s plenty of money for everyone if this project goes through,” said one company official.
The deal was all set, but HillStone made a crucial error. In 2013, the firm was forced to back out of the contract because of a series of problems, including a lack of experience by Hill and TRAC Development, its South Korean associate firm. But HillStone continued doing significant contract work in the embattled country, including a six-year contract with the US Army Corps of Engineers.
James Biden remained with Hill International, which accumulated contracts from the federal government for dozens of projects, including projects in the United States, Puerto Rico, Mozambique and elsewhere.
Nostra
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Hunter Biden
Hunter Biden launched businesses fused to his father’s power that led him to lucrative deals with a rogue’s gallery of governments and oligarchs around the world. Sometimes he would hitch a prominent ride with his father aboard Air Force Two to visit a country where he was courting business. Other times, the deals would be done more discreetly. Always they involved foreign entities that appeared to be seeking something from his father.
There was, for example, Hunter’s involvement with an entity called Burnham Financial Group, where his business partner Devon Archer — who’d been at Yale with Hunter — sat on the board of directors. Burnham became the vehicle for a number of murky deals abroad, involving connected oligarchs in Kazakhstan and state-owned businesses in China.
But one of the most troubling Burnham ventures was here in the United States, in which Burnham became the center of a federal investigation involving a $60 million fraud scheme against one of the poorest Indian tribes in America, the Oglala Sioux.
Devon Archer was arrested in New York in May 2016 and charged with “orchestrating a scheme to defraud investors and a Native American tribal entity of tens of millions of dollars.” Other victims of the fraud included several public and union pension plans. Although Hunter Biden was not charged in the case, his fingerprints were all over Burnham. The “legitimacy” that his name and political status as the vice president’s son lent to the plan was brought up repeatedly in the trial.
The scheme was explicitly designed to target pension funds that had “socially responsible investing” clauses, including pension funds of labor union organizations that had publicly supported Joe Biden’s political campaigns in the past. Indeed, eight of the 11 pension funds that lost their money were either government employee or labor union pension funds. Joe Biden has “a long-standing alliance with labor.” He closely identifies with organized labor. “I make no apologies,” he has said. “I am a union man, period.” And many public unions have endorsed him over the years.
Transcripts from Archer’s trial offer a clearer picture of Hunter Biden’s role at Burnham Asset Management, in particular, the fact that the firm relied on his father’s name and political status as a means of both recruiting pension money into the scheme and alleviating investors’ concerns.
Tim Anderson, a lawyer who did legal work on the issuance of the tribal bonds, recounts seeing Hunter while visiting the Burnham office in New York City to meet with Bevan Cooney, who was later convicted in the case.
The political ties that Biden and Archer had were considered key to the Burnham brand. As stated in an August 2014 email, Jason Galanis, who was convicted in the bond scheme, agreed with an unidentified associate who also thought the company had “value beyond capital” because of their political connections.
In the closing arguments at the trial, one of Archer’s defense attorneys, Matthew Schwartz, explained to the jury that it was impossible to talk about the bond scheme without mentioning Hunter Biden’s name. This “was perfectly sensible,” according to Schwartz, “because Hunter Biden was part of the Burnham team.”
Hunter Biden launched businesses fused to his father’s power that led him to lucrative deals with a rogue’s gallery of governments and oligarchs around the world. Sometimes he would hitch a prominent ride with his father aboard Air Force Two to visit a country where he was courting business. Other times, the deals would be done more discreetly. Always they involved foreign entities that appeared to be seeking something from his father.
There was, for example, Hunter’s involvement with an entity called Burnham Financial Group, where his business partner Devon Archer — who’d been at Yale with Hunter — sat on the board of directors. Burnham became the vehicle for a number of murky deals abroad, involving connected oligarchs in Kazakhstan and state-owned businesses in China.
But one of the most troubling Burnham ventures was here in the United States, in which Burnham became the center of a federal investigation involving a $60 million fraud scheme against one of the poorest Indian tribes in America, the Oglala Sioux.
Devon Archer was arrested in New York in May 2016 and charged with “orchestrating a scheme to defraud investors and a Native American tribal entity of tens of millions of dollars.” Other victims of the fraud included several public and union pension plans. Although Hunter Biden was not charged in the case, his fingerprints were all over Burnham. The “legitimacy” that his name and political status as the vice president’s son lent to the plan was brought up repeatedly in the trial.
The scheme was explicitly designed to target pension funds that had “socially responsible investing” clauses, including pension funds of labor union organizations that had publicly supported Joe Biden’s political campaigns in the past. Indeed, eight of the 11 pension funds that lost their money were either government employee or labor union pension funds. Joe Biden has “a long-standing alliance with labor.” He closely identifies with organized labor. “I make no apologies,” he has said. “I am a union man, period.” And many public unions have endorsed him over the years.
Transcripts from Archer’s trial offer a clearer picture of Hunter Biden’s role at Burnham Asset Management, in particular, the fact that the firm relied on his father’s name and political status as a means of both recruiting pension money into the scheme and alleviating investors’ concerns.
Tim Anderson, a lawyer who did legal work on the issuance of the tribal bonds, recounts seeing Hunter while visiting the Burnham office in New York City to meet with Bevan Cooney, who was later convicted in the case.
The political ties that Biden and Archer had were considered key to the Burnham brand. As stated in an August 2014 email, Jason Galanis, who was convicted in the bond scheme, agreed with an unidentified associate who also thought the company had “value beyond capital” because of their political connections.
In the closing arguments at the trial, one of Archer’s defense attorneys, Matthew Schwartz, explained to the jury that it was impossible to talk about the bond scheme without mentioning Hunter Biden’s name. This “was perfectly sensible,” according to Schwartz, “because Hunter Biden was part of the Burnham team.”
Nostra
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Frank Biden
Caribbean Energy Security Initiative (CESI). The program called for increasing access to financing for Caribbean energy projects that he strongly supported. American taxpayer dollars were dedicated to facilitating deals that matched US government financing with local energy projects in Caribbean countries, including Jamaica. In January 2015, USAID announced that it would be spending $10 million to boost renewable energy projects in Jamaica over the next five years.
After Joe Biden brought together leaders for CESI, brother Frank’s firm Sun Fund Americas announced that it was “engaged in projects and is in negotiations with governments of other countries in the [Caribbean] region for both its Solar and Waste to Energy development services.” As if to push the idea along, the Obama administration’s OPIC provided a $47.5 million loan to support the construction of a 20-megawatt solar facility in Clarendon, Jamaica.
Frank Biden’s Sun Fund Americas later announced that it had signed a power purchase agreement to build a 20-megawatt solar facility in Jamaica.
Caribbean Energy Security Initiative (CESI). The program called for increasing access to financing for Caribbean energy projects that he strongly supported. American taxpayer dollars were dedicated to facilitating deals that matched US government financing with local energy projects in Caribbean countries, including Jamaica. In January 2015, USAID announced that it would be spending $10 million to boost renewable energy projects in Jamaica over the next five years.
After Joe Biden brought together leaders for CESI, brother Frank’s firm Sun Fund Americas announced that it was “engaged in projects and is in negotiations with governments of other countries in the [Caribbean] region for both its Solar and Waste to Energy development services.” As if to push the idea along, the Obama administration’s OPIC provided a $47.5 million loan to support the construction of a 20-megawatt solar facility in Clarendon, Jamaica.
Frank Biden’s Sun Fund Americas later announced that it had signed a power purchase agreement to build a 20-megawatt solar facility in Jamaica.
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Because of Trump 2019 has gone down as one of the most corrupt years in the nations history.
Trump's alleged abuses of power make 2019 one of the most corrupt years in history, former federal prosecutor says
Trump's alleged abuses of power make 2019 one of the most corrupt years in history, former federal prosecutor says
Nostra
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A Soros puppet penned an editorial critical of President Trump?Because of Trump 2019 has gone down as one of the most corrupt years in the nations history.
Trump's alleged abuses of power make 2019 one of the most corrupt years in history, former federal prosecutor says
I'm shocked! SHOCKED I TELLS YA!
SHOW US A WHITE MAN, BESIDE MR. RODGERS, WHO ISN'T A RACIST....AND I'LL SHOW YOU A WW THAT DON'T FANTASIZE ABOUT BANGIN A BMBiden has a long history of racism, but that doesn’t seem to bother … Joe Biden is Demented Racist Shark Food - CounterPunch.org
In your pinhead. That ain't realityListen, ass ho, either read the article or shut the fuck up... seriously. The Trumps reeeeekkkkk of corruptionWhere is the "corruption?" As already stated, in your pinhead.
You whores wanted to murder Obama for wearing a tan suit.....listen, I can not, will not debate a retard...I have too much respect for the handicap....so bye bitch
Woo … that's a whole lotta anger considering there are just 240 days until you get the op to vote President Trump out unless … unless you already know there isn't a Dem running who has a chance against him. Is that it or are you still all pissy because WW get all the best black guys and you get the dregs?
We both know Trump will beat any lame Dem in November and you clearly are panicked and enraged … SO BRING IT.There is not one single sin any democrat has, that a Trump can't top or beat....SO BRING IT. You guys have got to understand... NOT EVERYBODY IS IGNORANT LIKE TRUMP SUPPORTERS... GET THAT SHIT THROUGH YOUR HEADS.Trump will have no such constraints and BurismaVirus will dog Biden throughout. The best response his aides have concocted so far is "you're a lying, dog-faced, pony soldier."
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Doc7505
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It's mob tactics. Involve everyone in your crimes, pay them off and they will protect you.
Hmm…., Is that how the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Leftist protect each other?
Billiejeens
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One thing I'm learning....ppl like you, the deplorables....aren't worth the time of day...next?Trump Campaign Chief Is Funneling Pay To Eric Trump’s Wife, Don Jr.’s Girlfriend: Report
Payments are made through Brad Parscale’s company, The New York Times reported.
Trump Campaign Chief Is Funneling Pay To Eric Trump's Wife, Don Jr.'s Girlfriend: Report | HuffPost
President Donald Trump’s campaign manager is quietly channeling money to Eric Trump’s wife, Lara Trump, and Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle, The New York Times reported Monday.
The millions upon millions tax payers pay to his hotels and golfing venues, the millions upon millions tax payers are paying to cabinet members and his tax paid lawyers and now this. Donors paying the Trump family..One thing is certain, these mf's love money more than anything in the world.....money is the root to all evil, just ask a Trump
Folks, if this was a democrat, heads and dicks would roll.
Maybe your next sham impeachment attempt will be the ONE that gets Pence in the Oval Office!
We all know that's your real goal in all of this.
Right?
At least they are human.
Billiejeens
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If you're truly interested...than do the research. I don't make the news, I just report it.When did it ever begin?Trump Campaign Chief Is Funneling Pay To Eric Trump’s Wife, Don Jr.’s Girlfriend: Report
Payments are made through Brad Parscale’s company, The New York Times reported.
Trump Campaign Chief Is Funneling Pay To Eric Trump's Wife, Don Jr.'s Girlfriend: Report | HuffPost
President Donald Trump’s campaign manager is quietly channeling money to Eric Trump’s wife, Lara Trump, and Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle, The New York Times reported Monday.
The millions upon millions tax payers pay to his hotels and golfing venues, the millions upon millions tax payers are paying to cabinet members and his tax paid lawyers and now this. Donors paying the Trump family..One thing is certain, these mf's love money more than anything in the world.....money is the root to all evil, just ask a Trump
Folks, if this was a democrat, heads and dicks would roll.
I laugh
Billiejeens
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Trump Campaign Chief Is Funneling Pay To Eric Trump's Wife, Don Jr.'s Girlfriend: Report
It's gonna get real interesting!
In what way?
C_Clayton_Jones
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Trump is the most corrupt president since Nixon.Trump Campaign Chief Is Funneling Pay To Eric Trump’s Wife, Don Jr.’s Girlfriend: Report
Payments are made through Brad Parscale’s company, The New York Times reported.
Trump Campaign Chief Is Funneling Pay To Eric Trump's Wife, Don Jr.'s Girlfriend: Report | HuffPost
President Donald Trump’s campaign manager is quietly channeling money to Eric Trump’s wife, Lara Trump, and Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle, The New York Times reported Monday.
The millions upon millions tax payers pay to his hotels and golfing venues, the millions upon millions tax payers are paying to cabinet members and his tax paid lawyers and now this. Donors paying the Trump family..One thing is certain, these mf's love money more than anything in the world.....money is the root to all evil, just ask a Trump
Folks, if this was a democrat, heads and dicks would roll.
iceberg
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AG Barr indicts eight individuals for illegally funneling foreign money to Adam Schiff, Hillary Clinton and several DemocratsTrump Campaign Chief Is Funneling Pay To Eric Trump’s Wife, Don Jr.’s Girlfriend: Report
Payments are made through Brad Parscale’s company, The New York Times reported.
Trump Campaign Chief Is Funneling Pay To Eric Trump's Wife, Don Jr.'s Girlfriend: Report | HuffPost
President Donald Trump’s campaign manager is quietly channeling money to Eric Trump’s wife, Lara Trump, and Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle, The New York Times reported Monday.
The millions upon millions tax payers pay to his hotels and golfing venues, the millions upon millions tax payers are paying to cabinet members and his tax paid lawyers and now this. Donors paying the Trump family..One thing is certain, these mf's love money more than anything in the world.....money is the root to all evil, just ask a Trump
Folks, if this was a democrat, heads and dicks would roll.
when do the heads roll?
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