Does the GOP wish Obama left the country the way Bush left it.

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It has nothing to do with it. He's flailing and talking in circles.

The indisputable truth is that up until the Democrats took over Congress in 2007 the economy was doing OK despite the trillion dollar hit caused by 911.

The stupid and uneducated greedy Moon Bats will never admit it but the trickle down economics of the Bush tax cuts prevented the economy from failing.

The real fact is the chickens from the Democrat initiated and supported ACA finally came home to roost and it did great damage to the economy and Barney Queerboy, who was the Chairman of the House Finance Committee, did nothing to stop it when he had the chance.

The Democrats made the economy fail when they took over the Congress and that incompetent affirmative action piece of shit Obama did nothing but failed at a recovery.

Last quarter we had a dismal 1.1% growth rate and this is after almost eight years of Obama's administration. He has done nothing but increase poverty, increase welfare, astronomically grow the debt, decrease family income and had dismal economic growth.

The time is long past for the shithead Libtards to blame Obama's failure on Bush or somebody else. That shit is getting old by now.

If (heaven forbid) that asshole Crooked Hillary gets elected who are the stupid Libtards going to blame her failures on? Still try to blame it on Bush?
The economy was not doing ok, you steaming pile of shit. Many states were recording record numbers of foreclosures in 2006. The damage to the real estate markets was already done and there probably was nothing that could be done at that point to prevent the housing markets to collapse entirely.

Tell us where Sub-Prime loans originated child.
You would first have to explain why that matters? Lack of oversight allowed the GSE's to purchase & guarantee risky loans. That allowed lenders to make insanely risky loans without risk. Which they did until the housing markets collapsed. Had the GSE's not been guaranteeing those loans, lenders would have been forced to not make such risky loans.
 
Where did the Sub-Prime loans originate child?

Sub Prime loans originated during the Carter administration. They were "designed" to give sellers the ability to buy another house first before selling their current home, thus not forcing them to rush to buy a new house to get out of the old house before said date. It was designed to be only a temporary loan which came with an Adjustable Rate Mortgage.

Like anything else, it was used and abused especially during the housing bubble.
 
One cannot bitch about the "Housing Crisis" without visiting it's origins idiot.
 
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It has nothing to do with it. He's flailing and talking in circles.

The indisputable truth is that up until the Democrats took over Congress in 2007 the economy was doing OK despite the trillion dollar hit caused by 911.

The stupid and uneducated greedy Moon Bats will never admit it but the trickle down economics of the Bush tax cuts prevented the economy from failing.

The real fact is the chickens from the Democrat initiated and supported ACA finally came home to roost and it did great damage to the economy and Barney Queerboy, who was the Chairman of the House Finance Committee, did nothing to stop it when he had the chance.

The Democrats made the economy fail when they took over the Congress and that incompetent affirmative action piece of shit Obama did nothing but failed at a recovery.

Last quarter we had a dismal 1.1% growth rate and this is after almost eight years of Obama's administration. He has done nothing but increase poverty, increase welfare, astronomically grow the debt, decrease family income and had dismal economic growth.

The time is long past for the shithead Libtards to blame Obama's failure on Bush or somebody else. That shit is getting old by now.

If (heaven forbid) that asshole Crooked Hillary gets elected who are the stupid Libtards going to blame her failures on? Still try to blame it on Bush?
The economy was not doing ok, you steaming pile of shit. Many states were recording record numbers of foreclosures in 2006. The damage to the real estate markets was already done and there probably was nothing that could be done at that point to prevent the housing markets to collapse entirely.

Tell us where Sub-Prime loans originated child.
You would first have to explain why that matters? Lack of oversight allowed the GSE's to purchase & guarantee risky loans. That allowed lenders to make insanely risky loans without risk. Which they did until the housing markets collapsed. Had the GSE's not been guaranteeing those loans, lenders would have been forced to not make such risky loans.

"This legislation established an "affordable housing" loan purchase mandate for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and that mandate was to be regulated by HUD. Initially, the 1992 legislation required that 30% or more of Fannie's and Freddie's loan purchases be related to "affordable housing" (borrowers who were below normal lending standards). However, HUD was given the power to set future requirements, and HUD soon increased the mandates. This encouraged "subprime" mortgages. (See HUD Mandates, below.)"

Government policies and the subprime mortgage crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"In 1999, President Bill Clinton signed into law Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed portions of the Glass-Steagall Act. Economist Joseph Stiglitz criticized the repeal of the Act. He called its repeal the "culmination of a $300 million lobbying effort by the banking and financial services industries..." He believes it contributed to this crisis because the risk-taking culture of investment banking dominated the more risk-averse commercial banking culture, leading to increased levels of risk-taking and leverage during the boom period.[17]"

You lose son.
 
You would first have to explain why that matters? Lack of oversight allowed the GSE's to purchase & guarantee risky loans. That allowed lenders to make insanely risky loans without risk. Which they did until the housing markets collapsed. Had the GSE's not been guaranteeing those loans, lenders would have been forced to not make such risky loans.

Not really. Banks didn't lend the money--banks only made the loans and sold them off. Banks cleaned up on the processing fees associated with making such loans.

When banks sell those loans, they have to be up to the standard with Fanny and Freddy guidelines which they were. That's where the problem started.
 
As long as when you "don't want to work," you are not living off the public dole, no one cares.



Exactly. Now how many in that LPR that right wingers love to cite, are in a situation similar to mine?

You including social security income as "public dole"?
Rental income where the tenant is receiving their social security?. What? I have tenants who work and receive SNAP.
Helps them pay rent. By God I must be on the dole too. LMAO.
Oh well, works for me.
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Social Security retirement benefits is not living off of the public dole. What ever gave you that idea?
 
"This legislation established an "affordable housing" loan purchase mandate for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and that mandate was to be regulated by HUD. Initially, the 1992 legislation required that 30% or more of Fannie's and Freddie's loan purchases be related to "affordable housing" (borrowers who were below normal lending standards). However, HUD was given the power to set future requirements, and HUD soon increased the mandates. This encouraged "subprime" mortgages. (See HUD Mandates, below.)"

Government policies and the subprime mortgage crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"In 1999, President Bill Clinton signed into law Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed portions of the Glass-Steagall Act. Economist Joseph Stiglitz criticized the repeal of the Act. He called its repeal the "culmination of a $300 million lobbying effort by the banking and financial services industries..." He believes it contributed to this crisis because the risk-taking culture of investment banking dominated the more risk-averse commercial banking culture, leading to increased levels of risk-taking and leverage during the boom period.[17]"

You lose son.
Lose what? Passing Gramm-Leach-Bliley did not cause the collapse. Not to mention ... Gramm = conservative; Leach = conservative; Bliley = conservative; deregulation = conservative policy.
 
"This legislation established an "affordable housing" loan purchase mandate for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and that mandate was to be regulated by HUD. Initially, the 1992 legislation required that 30% or more of Fannie's and Freddie's loan purchases be related to "affordable housing" (borrowers who were below normal lending standards). However, HUD was given the power to set future requirements, and HUD soon increased the mandates. This encouraged "subprime" mortgages. (See HUD Mandates, below.)"

Government policies and the subprime mortgage crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"In 1999, President Bill Clinton signed into law Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed portions of the Glass-Steagall Act. Economist Joseph Stiglitz criticized the repeal of the Act. He called its repeal the "culmination of a $300 million lobbying effort by the banking and financial services industries..." He believes it contributed to this crisis because the risk-taking culture of investment banking dominated the more risk-averse commercial banking culture, leading to increased levels of risk-taking and leverage during the boom period.[17]"

You lose son.
Lose what? Passing Gramm-Leach-Bliley did not cause the collapse. Not to mention ... Gramm = conservative; Leach = conservative; Bliley = conservative; deregulation = conservative policy.

You need to re-read that child. ;)
Billy Boy REPEALED it ;)
Billy Boy caused the collapse son...there is NOTHING you can do to change that.
 
Why is it the responsibility of the Gov to use Tax Payer money to bail out people who should never have been given a loan?


Not only that but why was the fucking government in the business of putting significant pressure with the ACA on the lending institutions to give credit to people that had neither the means or inclination to pay back the money? That was a dumbass Libtard social justice idea that the Moon Bats had that almost destroyed our economy.
 
"This legislation established an "affordable housing" loan purchase mandate for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and that mandate was to be regulated by HUD. Initially, the 1992 legislation required that 30% or more of Fannie's and Freddie's loan purchases be related to "affordable housing" (borrowers who were below normal lending standards). However, HUD was given the power to set future requirements, and HUD soon increased the mandates. This encouraged "subprime" mortgages. (See HUD Mandates, below.)"

Government policies and the subprime mortgage crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"In 1999, President Bill Clinton signed into law Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed portions of the Glass-Steagall Act. Economist Joseph Stiglitz criticized the repeal of the Act. He called its repeal the "culmination of a $300 million lobbying effort by the banking and financial services industries..." He believes it contributed to this crisis because the risk-taking culture of investment banking dominated the more risk-averse commercial banking culture, leading to increased levels of risk-taking and leverage during the boom period.[17]"

You lose son.
Lose what? Passing Gramm-Leach-Bliley did not cause the collapse. Not to mention ... Gramm = conservative; Leach = conservative; Bliley = conservative; deregulation = conservative policy.

You need to re-read that child. ;)
Billy Boy REPEALED it ;)
Billy Boy caused the collapse son...there is NOTHING you can do to change that.
Imbecile.... the president doesn't pass laws that don't first get passed by the Congress. Yes, Clinton signed it into law .... A conservative deregulation bill written and sponsored by conservatives in Congress. We can blame conservatism if you like; but again, passing the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act didn't cause the meltdown.
 
Do Republicans remember how the country was when Obama became president. The economy, the stock market, the wars, employment and so on? The car industry, the steel industry, the rubber industry and so on?

Credit card companies? Health care?

Do they wish he had done nothing?

How would things be different?

Do you remember that Pelosi and Reid ran congress ?

Can you remember that you are not supposed to reveal that you never graduated from the 5th grade ?

So tell me what you believe the 109th Congress contributed to The Wages of Supply Side Idiocy, Parte Deux....

As much as Bush.

BTW: Part 1 actually made some sense at the time.

Bush was a moron.

But blaming him for the whole mess makes rdean just as big a moron.
 
"This legislation established an "affordable housing" loan purchase mandate for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and that mandate was to be regulated by HUD. Initially, the 1992 legislation required that 30% or more of Fannie's and Freddie's loan purchases be related to "affordable housing" (borrowers who were below normal lending standards). However, HUD was given the power to set future requirements, and HUD soon increased the mandates. This encouraged "subprime" mortgages. (See HUD Mandates, below.)"

Government policies and the subprime mortgage crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"In 1999, President Bill Clinton signed into law Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed portions of the Glass-Steagall Act. Economist Joseph Stiglitz criticized the repeal of the Act. He called its repeal the "culmination of a $300 million lobbying effort by the banking and financial services industries..." He believes it contributed to this crisis because the risk-taking culture of investment banking dominated the more risk-averse commercial banking culture, leading to increased levels of risk-taking and leverage during the boom period.[17]"

You lose son.
Lose what? Passing Gramm-Leach-Bliley did not cause the collapse. Not to mention ... Gramm = conservative; Leach = conservative; Bliley = conservative; deregulation = conservative policy.

You need to re-read that child. ;)
Billy Boy REPEALED it ;)
Billy Boy caused the collapse son...there is NOTHING you can do to change that.
Imbecile.... the president doesn't pass laws that don't first get passed by the Congress. Yes, Clinton signed it into law .... A conservative deregulation bill written and sponsored by conservatives in Congress. We can blame conservatism if you like; but again, passing the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act didn't cause the meltdown.

It of course played a HUGE part imbecile.
Just accept the fact that your Boy is complicit in the melt down son.
 
Not only that but why was the fucking government in the business of putting significant pressure with the ACA on the lending institutions to give credit to people that had neither the means or inclination to pay back the money? That was a dumbass Libtard social justice idea that the Moon Bats had that almost destroyed our economy.

The straw that broke the camels back was the 0% down policy with no credit checks. You had lowlifes with not a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of buying homes in the suburbs with no money down and they had no intention of paying a mortgage either. For them, it was a paid vacation from the projects.
 
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The straw that broke the camels back was the 0% down policy with no credit checks. You had lowlifes with not a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of buying homes in the suburbs with no money down and they had no intention of paying a mortgage either. For them, it was a paid vacation from the projects.

The Democrats thought that putting pressure on the lending institutions to give credit to the lowlifes would undue the injustice of the past or some stupid social justice reason like that.

The sad thing is that the weak minded Republicans went along with it and did not push back. They could have put an end to it when they were in charge of Congress but they didn't do it.
 
"It’s About Time The Fed Stops Lying!"

This year, everybody was obviously dying to hear if the Fed was planning to raise the interest rates anytime soon, even though the economy doesn’t seem to be fully ready for it. Yes, the job creation number from July has just been revised to 275,000 (from 255,000), but the August number once again came in below expectations with a 30,000 job creation miss as the US economy added just 150,000 jobs rather than the 180,000 jobs the market was expecting. And not only did the total amount of new jobs come in lower than expected, approximately 25% of the ‘new’ jobs were in the food and drinks-sector which traditionally is one of the worst paying sectors in the United States. Of course, the gold price jumped immediately as this was the second piece of bad news in just two days, as the previous day the Purchase Manager Index dipped.


It’s About Time The Fed Stops Lying! | Zero Hedge

We are sinking.

Uh.....ZeroHedge has been calling for the apocalypse since.......oh.......roughly the beginning of Time......
 
No...you remain a moron......I demonstrated that businesses did not manifest any reluctance to hire following the passage of ACA.....this is entirely different from asserting that "ACA was the ONLY factor affecting job growth"....

That you are saying "business did not manifest any reluctance to hiring following the passage of the ACA" is saying EXACTLY that it's the only factor. My God, how do you even sell financial securities when you can't follow what you even said yourself? Don't your clients just sit there and stare at you and say you just contradicted themselves?

And BTW, you overstated what you think you showed, all you did was compare hiring under Obama to under Bush. They both sucked
is saying EXACTLY that it's the only factor.

No......you possess the reading comprehension of the product of a third rate university....which explains your affinity for Bear's tragic ignorance....

Yes, it is saying that's the only factor. You pointed to one factor, one outcome, and drew a conclusion. That is exactly saying there is exactly one factor. Which is a fallacy of the single cause

(sigh)

What did I suggest that it was the single cause of?

Please spare me your "interpretations" and quote me.....

You argued that Obamacare doesn't cause unemployment because it didn't go up after the Obamacare was introduced. That argument requires the Obamacare to be the single cause of unemployment. Reading's not your thing, is it? I see why you do it so rarely.

Also, Obamacare is long term destructive, no one said it was overnight. But that's more a weakness in your argument than a fallacy

With what part of

"Please spare me your "interpretations" and quote me"

are you struggling?


Also, Obamacare is long term destructive


He Asserts, Boldly........

But that's more a weakness in your argument than a fallacy

No....that is a Bold Assertion offered without evidence........in short, same kazzie shit, different day....
 
To blame that mess entirely on Bush is asinine



Really? Assholes like you blame EVERYTHING that has gone wrong in this country on Obama. That is asinine. Right?

...and assholes like you blame "Booosh" for everything that's wrong.
Dumbass.
What's not to blame? Bush left a crater in the country's economy just like he left a crater in lower Manhattan.

Yawn.

Your "Magic Negro" has dome nothing to "save" the economy.
He has added 2 wars to the two already ongoing. (Which by he way tells you e is part of the Military Industrial Complex).
So is Hillary.

Your "Magic Negro" has dome nothing to "save" the economy.

You may try to argue that he had no effect on it, but the data is unambiguous on the issue of the improving economy.....
 

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