Steinlight
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This isn't an explanation for the disparities though. I never contended the disparities didn't exist. I am asking you to prove that they exist due to racism. You said there were at least "six other facts" that show the disparity in sentencing between whites and blacks is due to racism. I am still waiting.No problem, I can start with number one and continue, because there are those that lack the common sense to be aware of facts that are common.List the "six other facts" with citation that show the disparity in sentencing between whites and blacks is due to racism in the justice system. Since your position is "common sense", the data should be readily available that verifies your position.One reason for the disparities between the races as far as sentencing go is the higher rates of recidivism among non-whites, meaning they have priors. This is just one example your conspiracy of white "racism" in the justice is bunk.Should everyone get a Beemer? Or do we really expect the best when someone else is footing the bill?
Hint for you, fuddley: If you want quality legal representation, stay in school and out of jail and keep your dick in your pants so you can afford it.
Your first post was so ignorant and stupid that I chose not to address it, however , it is apparent that you want to ride the stupid choo choo into the horizon.
Some facts ( those things that confuse you)
More minorities are jailed for the same crimes that whites are given probation for.
More minorities are given harsher sentences than whites when the offenses are the same.
Minorities are given sentences two to three times as long for selling crack cocaine vs. cocaine sold by whites.
Minorities are given harsher sentences for first time offenses than whites.
Whites are sentenced to probation at a higher rate than minorities.
Those above facts have an overwhelming effect on the number of individual races incarcerated.
Now on to the stupidity you have typed on this post.
It's idiots like you that make defenses such as "affluenza" totally acceptable as a defense against any crime committed by the individual.
You have said that people with less money should not receive equal protection under the law...is this some new interpretation of the U.S. Constitution by Conservatives?Repubs???
Do you usually try this hard to post opinions totally devoid of fact, law and precedent?
It's amusing that when the situation calls for it, you easily abandon all pretense of common sense.
Your attempt at some rebuttal failed to mention at least six other facts concerning the disparity in sentencing, mainly the incidents of first time Black offenders receiving prison sentences while whites receive probation and/or treatment.
Your response was the typical deflection from accepted facts that some whites choose to ignore...
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Sentencing rates for black Americans, however, still exceeded their 12 percent proportion of the general U.S. population. Studies in the 1980s and 1990s showed distinct patterns in sentencing regarding racial categories. For most felonies minorities had a higher incarceration rate, especially those with prior arrest records. They also received harsher sentences for lesser crimes. Whites would often receive probation and blacks incarceration. In 1998 black Americans represented 35 percent of the adults on probation, 49 percent of the adults in prison, and 44 percent of the adults on parole.
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C. Racially Disparate Sentencing Outcomes
One of the most thorough studies of sentencing disparities was undertaken by the New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services, which studied felony sentencing outcomes in New York courts between 1990 and 1992. The State concluded that one-third of minorities sentenced to prison would have received a shorter or non-incarcerative sentence if they had been treated like similarly situated white defendants. If probation-eligible blacks had been treated like their white counterparts, more than 8000 fewer black defendants would have received prison sentences in that two year period, resulting in a five percent decline in the percentage of blacks sentenced to prison as a percentage of the entire sentenced population. In short, the study found, blacks are sentenced to prison more frequently than whites for the same conduct.
Other sentencing data is consistent with the New York findings. Nationwide, black males convicted of drug felonies in state courts are sentenced to prison 52 percent of the time, while white males are sentenced to prison only 34 percent of the time. The ratio for women is similar – 41 percent of black female felony drug offenders are sentenced to prison, as compared to 24 percent of white females. With respect to violent offenses, 74 percent of black male convicted felons serve prison time, as opposed to only 60 percent of white male convicted felons. With respect to all felonies, 58 percent of black male convicted felons, as opposed to 45 percent of white men, serve prison sentences.
Racial disparities can be found not only in the fact of incarceration, but in the length of prison or jail time served. According to a Justice Department review of state sentencing, whites who serve time for felony drug offenses serve shorter prison terms than their black counterparts: An average of 27 months for whites, and 46 months for blacks. These discrepancies are mirrored with regard to non-drug crimes. Whites serve a mean sentence of 79 months for violent felony offenses; blacks serve a mean sentence of 107 months for these offenses. Whites serve a mean sentence of 23 months for felony weapons offenses, blacks serve a mean sentence of 36 months for these offenses. Overall, whites in state prisons nationwide in 1994 served a mean time of 40 months, as compared to 58 months for blacks.
Chapter Three Race Sentencing and the Tough Crime Movement
A minority youth had a six times greater chance as a white youth for being arrested, convicted, and sentenced to jail or prison. A study in California showed that whites charged with a felony were more likely than blacks or Hispanics to have charges reduced or dismissed. Of the first-time offenders in San Francisco, the courts sentenced 4 percent of the white offenders to state prisons, 7 percent of black offenders, and 11 percent of Hispanic offenders.
Efforts to make sentencing more consistent through stricter sentencing guidelines produced little change. Black offenders who murder a white victim are still more likely to be given the death penalty than for murdering a black victim. Prosecutors can still greatly influence sentencing outcomes by deciding what charges to bring against an offender.
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