Donnie-baby's meeting: Russia's opening co-opting salvo

[Aletheia4u]

By intelligence expert Rolf Mowatt-Larseen

Everything we know about the meeting — from whom it involved to how it was set up to how it unfolded — is in line with what intelligence analysts would expect an overture in a Russian influence operation to look like. It bears all the hallmarks of a professionally planned, carefully orchestrated intelligence soft pitch designed to gauge receptivity, while leaving room for plausible deniability in case the approach is rejected. And the Trump campaign’s willingness to take the meeting — and, more important, its failure to report the episode to U.S. authorities — may have been exactly the green light Russia was looking for to launch a more aggressive phase of intervention in the U.S. election campaign. [...]

From the Russian perspective, the fact that Trump Jr. agreed to the meeting would have been the first promising sign. That veteran political operative Paul Manafort and senior adviser Jared Kushner showed up with him would have furthered the impression that there was strong interest in Russian assistance (and vulnerability to compromise) on the part of the campaign. But, according to standard espionage tradecraft, the most notable achievement of this encounter lay in the campaign’s failure to report it to the appropriate U.S. authorities — as Russia would have known when there was no immediate, dramatic increase in U.S. counterintelligence scrutiny of its election-related operations.

As for why the initial emails so bluntly stated that the contact was part of a Russian government initiative—putting the most incendiary aspect of the meeting in plain text, from the beginning, he suspects it was “to avoid the possibility that [the] offer might be misconstrued, perhaps naively, as an innocent gesture of support and nothing more.” By making it explicit, the Putin government could be assured Trump would have “a full appreciation” for their role in an upcoming victory.

 

[Aletheia4u]

Hollywood's Top 20 Celebrities of Russian Descent
Margarita March 20, 2010, at 6:10 pm

Anderson_bynes_DiCaprio_Douglas_Ford_-Franco_Graham_Jovovich_Nimoy_Kunis_Denisof_Duchovny_Ryder_Penn_Kravitz_Scherzinger_Tyler_Connelly_Phoenix_FarmigaAfter seeing Lisa Kudrow’s new show, Who Do You Think You Are?, yesterday I was very inspired to look into the stars ancestry myself and see who I may be related to. Ok, so maybe not related, but since I myself was born in Odessa, Ukraine it’s kinda fun to see who else is from my neck of the woods. After some research, I found 20 celebrities who believe it or not, are in fact descendants of Russian /Ukrainian immigrants (No, it is not the same place) or were born there themselves.

Pamela Anderson – Known for her roles on the television series Home Improvement and Baywatch. Pamela was born in Ladysmith, British Columbia. Her great-grandfather, Juho Hyytiäinen, was Finnish, a native of Saarijärvi who left Finland in 1908, changing his name to Anderson when he arrived as an immigrant. Her mother however is of Russian ancestry. Pamela Anderson - Playboy model (born Joan Goldstein)
Amanda Bynes – Known for her co-lead role in the Television series What I Like About You as well as popular movies such as She’s the Man (2006) and Hairspray (2007). Amanda was born and raised in Thousand Oaks, California. Her father is Catholic and her mother is Jewish. Her maternal grandparents are from Toronto, Ontario but she is of Polish, Irish, Russian and Romanian descent.
Leonardo DiCaprio - Known for movies like Titanic, Romeo + Juliet, Catch Me If You Can and Shutter Island. Leo was born in Los Angeles, California. His maternal grandmother, Helene Indenbirken, who was born Yelena Smirnova (some probability of JEW DESCENT), was a Russian immigrant to Germany. His mother moved from Oer-Erkenschwick at the Ruhr, Germany, to the U.S. during the 1950s, while his father is a fourth-generation American of half Italian and half German descent.
Michael Douglas - Known for movies such as Wall Street, Fatal Attraction and Basic Instinct. Michael was born in New Brunswick, New Jersey. His mother and maternal grandparents, Ruth Rapalje Neilson and Lt. Col. Thomas Melville Dill, were natives of Devonshire Parish, Bermuda, while his paternal grandparents, Bryna Sanglel and Herschel Danielovitch, were Jewish immigrants from Gomel in Belarus, at that time a part of the Russian Empire.
Harrison Ford – Known for movies like The Fugitive and the Indiana Jones series. Harrison was born in Chicago. His maternal grandparents, Anna Lifschutz and Harry Nidelman, were Jewish immigrants from Minsk, Belarus (at that time a part of the Russian Empire) and his paternal grandparents, Florence Veronica Niehaus and John Fitzgerald Ford, were of German and Irish Catholic descent.
James Franco – Known for movies such as the Spider Man trilogy, Pineapple Express and Milk. James was born in Palo Alto, California. Franco’s father is of Portuguese and Swedish descent and Franco’s mother is Jewish, a descendant of immigrants from Russia.
Katerina Graham – Known for playing Bonnie Bennett in the The CW show The Vampire Diaries. Katerina was born in Geneva, Switzerland. She is the daughter of a Liberian father, Joseph Graham, and a Russian Jewish mother, Natasha. Graham attended Hebrew school and speaks English, Spanish, French, and some Portuguese and Hebrew.
Mila Jovovich – Known for movies like The Fifth Element and Resident Evil. Mila was born in Kiev, Ukrainian SSR, Soviet Union. Mila is the daughter of Bogdan Bogdanovich Jovović, a Serbian pediatrician, and Galina Loginova, a Ukrainian/Russian stage actress. She was raised in the Russian Orthodox religion.[12]
Leonard Nimoy – Best known for playing the role of Spock in the original Star Trek series. Leonard was born in Boston, Massachusetts, to Yiddish-speaking Orthodox Jewish immigrants from Iziaslav, Ukraine.
Mila Kunis - Best known for her roles in That ’70s Show, Family Guy and The Book of Eli. Mila was Born Milena Markovna Kunis in Chernivtsi, Ukrainian SSR, Soviet Union to a Jewish family that moved to Los Angeles, California in 1991.
Alexis Denisof – known for playing Wesley Wyndam-Pryce in the television series Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Alexis was born in Salisbury, Maryland and is of Russian descent.
David Duchovny – Best known for his work as FBI Special Agent Fox Mulder on The X-Files. David was born in New York City, New York. His paternal grandparents were Jewish immigrants from Russia, and his mother is a Lutheran immigrant from Scotland. His father dropped the h in his last name to escape the sort of mispronunciations he suffered at the hands of sergeants while serving in the Army.
Winona Ryder – Known for films such as Beetlejuice, Edward Scissorhands and Mr. Deeds. Winona was born Winona Laura Horowitz in Olmsted County, Minnesota. Her father, Michael Horowitz, is an atheist and her mother is a Buddhist. Her paternal grandparents were Jewish immigrants from Russia. Ryder has one full sibling, a younger brother, Uri, named in honor of the first Soviet cosmonaut, Yuri Gagarin.
Sean Penn – Known for his roles in I Am Sam, Mystic River and Milk. Sean was born in Los Angeles, California. His mother is a Catholic of Italian and Irish descent, while his paternal grandparents were Jewish immigrants from Lithuania and Russia. According to Penn’s mother, Leo Penn (father) may have had distant Spanish ancestry, as the family’s surname was originally “Piñón”.
Lenny Kravitz – Singer/Songwriter, known for hits like “American Woman” and “Where Are We Running”. Lenny was born in New York City, New York. Kravitz’s father was of Russian Jewish descent from Kiev and his mother was of Bahamian descent.
Nicole Scherzinger – Best known as the lead singer of the Pussycat Dolls. Nicole was born Nicole Prescovia Elikolani Valiente Scherzinger in Honolulu, Hawaii. Her biological father, Alfonso Valiente, is Filipino, and her mother, Rosemary, is of Hawaiian and Russian descent.
Steven Tyler – Musician and songwriter, he is best known as the lead singer for the rock band Aerosmith. Steven was born Stephen Victor Tallarico in Yonkers, New York. His maternal background is Cherokee and Russian or Ukrainian, and His paternal side is of Italian (Grandfather Giovanni Tallarico was born in Cotronei, Calabria) and German descent.
Jennifer Connelly – Known for movies such as Requiem for a Dream, A Beautiful Mind and He’s Just Not That Into You. Jennifer was born in the Catskill Mountains of New York. Connelly’s father was of Irish, Catholic and Norwegian descent, and Connelly’s mother was Jewish, a descendant of immigrants from Russia and Poland.
Joaquin Phoenix – Known for movies like Gladiator, Signs and Walk The Line. Joaquin was born Joaquin Rafael Bottom in Río Piedras, located in the city of San Juan, Puerto Rico. His father, John Lee Bottom, was a Catholic from California. His mother, Arlyn Phoenix, was born in the Bronx, New York to Jewish parents from Hungary and Russia. In 1968, Arlyn moved to California and met Phoenix’s father while hitch-hiking. They married in 1969, then later joined the religious cult “The Children of God” and began traveling throughout South America where Joaquin was born.
Vera Farmiga – Best known for her roles in the films Running Scared, The Departed and Up in the Air. Vera was born in Clifton, New Jersey. She is the daughter of Ukrainian immigrants Mykhailo and Luba Farmiga. Vera was raised in an insular Ukrainian American community, not speaking English until the age of six. She also attended a Ukrainian Catholic school in Newark and toured with a Ukrainian folk-dancing ensemble

Hollywood's Top 20 Celebrities of (mostly) Russian (Jew) Descent

Ah man..., President Trump was colluding with Russian's agents.

 

[nat4900]

Have you forwarded it to Mueller?

Fear not, Mueller has had the election laws plaster all over his office....LOL

 

[OKTexas]

He could be removed tomorrow and I still wouldn't regret my vote.

Glad you're willing to remain just as stupid as you were in Nov.

The SC nominee simply replace the arch conservative fuck head, Scalia, with a more moderate conservative....How you morons interpret that as a "great win," defies logic....but then when did conservatives and logic ever coincide?

There will be more over the next couple of years and a republican will be there to fill them. They will mean more to the country than any single president. Add to that a couple of hundred other judicial appoints that will be made over his term make my vote worthwhile. Add to that pulling out of Paris, the TPP, reduction in regulations, drastic reduction in border crossings and enforcement of immigration laws. Oh yeah let's not forget all the regressive butt hurt. All in all, a pretty good 6 months. LMAO


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[nat4900]

It's fun pointing out your an idiot nat...

I'll take every opportunity you give me.

By all means, take all the opportunities you want....but for fuck sake, learn the difference between "your" and "you're"otherwise other folks may think that YOU'RE the idiot........LOL ....

 

[nat4900]

Uh yeah, you lost it kid

The difference is that I KNOW I lost our current government to a bunch of morons.......BUT, you haven't yet realized it and perhaps....in your stupidity....never will.....LOL

(Don't forget that Trump openly stated, ".....I LOVE the poorly educated and they love me....")

 

[nat4900]

By intelligence expert Rolf Mowatt-Larseen

Everything we know about the meeting — from whom it involved to how it was set up to how it unfolded — is in line with what intelligence analysts would expect an overture in a Russian influence operation to look like. It bears all the hallmarks of a professionally planned, carefully orchestrated intelligence soft pitch designed to gauge receptivity, while leaving room for plausible deniability in case the approach is rejected. And the Trump campaign’s willingness to take the meeting — and, more important, its failure to report the episode to U.S. authorities — may have been exactly the green light Russia was looking for to launch a more aggressive phase of intervention in the U.S. election campaign. [...]

From the Russian perspective, the fact that Trump Jr. agreed to the meeting would have been the first promising sign. That veteran political operative Paul Manafort and senior adviser Jared Kushner showed up with him would have furthered the impression that there was strong interest in Russian assistance (and vulnerability to compromise) on the part of the campaign. But, according to standard espionage tradecraft, the most notable achievement of this encounter lay in the campaign’s failure to report it to the appropriate U.S. authorities — as Russia would have known when there was no immediate, dramatic increase in U.S. counterintelligence scrutiny of its election-related operations.

As for why the initial emails so bluntly stated that the contact was part of a Russian government initiative—putting the most incendiary aspect of the meeting in plain text, from the beginning, he suspects it was “to avoid the possibility that [the] offer might be misconstrued, perhaps naively, as an innocent gesture of support and nothing more.” By making it explicit, the Putin government could be assured Trump would have “a full appreciation” for their role in an upcoming victory.

WOW.....how "original".....did you come up with that all by yourself?.....You can exemplify right wing intelligentsia, did you know that?

(What an asshole.......LOL)

 

[nat4900]

There will be more over the next couple of years and a republican will be there to fill them

thanks for admitting that....so far.....you've won nothing in the SC.

but, keep your eye on how well Trump fares when the campaign for 2018 starts early next year....Congress may look at lot different and Pence has his own lying problems........We'll soon see.....LOL

 

[Aletheia4u]

By intelligence expert Rolf Mowatt-Larseen

Everything we know about the meeting — from whom it involved to how it was set up to how it unfolded — is in line with what intelligence analysts would expect an overture in a Russian influence operation to look like. It bears all the hallmarks of a professionally planned, carefully orchestrated intelligence soft pitch designed to gauge receptivity, while leaving room for plausible deniability in case the approach is rejected. And the Trump campaign’s willingness to take the meeting — and, more important, its failure to report the episode to U.S. authorities — may have been exactly the green light Russia was looking for to launch a more aggressive phase of intervention in the U.S. election campaign. [...]

From the Russian perspective, the fact that Trump Jr. agreed to the meeting would have been the first promising sign. That veteran political operative Paul Manafort and senior adviser Jared Kushner showed up with him would have furthered the impression that there was strong interest in Russian assistance (and vulnerability to compromise) on the part of the campaign. But, according to standard espionage tradecraft, the most notable achievement of this encounter lay in the campaign’s failure to report it to the appropriate U.S. authorities — as Russia would have known when there was no immediate, dramatic increase in U.S. counterintelligence scrutiny of its election-related operations.

As for why the initial emails so bluntly stated that the contact was part of a Russian government initiative—putting the most incendiary aspect of the meeting in plain text, from the beginning, he suspects it was “to avoid the possibility that [the] offer might be misconstrued, perhaps naively, as an innocent gesture of support and nothing more.” By making it explicit, the Putin government could be assured Trump would have “a full appreciation” for their role in an upcoming victory.

WOW.....how "original".....did you come up with that all by yourself?.....You can exemplify right wing intelligentsia, did you know that?

(What an asshole.......LOL)

Well, I can see what you have ate this morning...

 

[nat4900]

Well, I can see what you have ate this morning...

English is a bitch for high school dropouts like this moron....LOL

 

[OKTexas]

There will be more over the next couple of years and a republican will be there to fill them

thanks for admitting that....so far.....you've won nothing in the SC.

but, keep your eye on how well Trump fares when the campaign for 2018 starts early next year....Congress may look at lot different and Pence has his own lying problems........We'll soon see.....LOL

We'll see if you're singing the same tune when Ginsberg or Kennedy kicks off or retires.


.

 

[Aletheia4u]

Well, I can see what you have ate this morning...

English is a bitch for high school dropouts like this moron....LOL

I think that you have smelled enough flatus for today.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Now that's really funny. Everyone including Trump was surprised he won. This is nothing more than just speculation wrapped in a nice blanket of innuendo.

Well, no......Russia was surprised tat the orange moron actually won the nomination.....After that, Russia went into action to make sure the stooge made it into the WH.........They must have been toasting with the best vodka in the Kremlin last Nov.

The Trump Jr meeting was in June, Trump won the nomination in July.

Kinda got things backward, doncha?

Trump won the primaries before the meeting.
The convention was in July.

 

[GWV5903]

It's fun pointing out your an idiot nat...

I'll take every opportunity you give me.

By all means, take all the opportunities you want....but for fuck sake, learn the difference between "your" and "you're"otherwise other folks may think that YOU'RE the idiot........LOL ....

Is that the best you can do? The Grammar Police? LOL!!

No it's CLEAR nat, you're the idiotic...

 

[nat4900]

Is that the best you can do? The Grammar Police?

Well, obviously, you must have "won" the argument....After all, look at the size of your FONTS you used on your post.....

(what an LOL )

 

[whitehall]

The only "hallmarks" are illustrated in a crazy angry and incoherent left that wants to turn a non issue into a federal case. What's gonna happen when the independent investigation uncovers evidence that the Obama/Clinton partnership paved the way for Bill's "international Clinton Foundation outreach" to get rich? Are we going to have to open federal PTSD compensation for blathering left wing idiots who still can't accept the results of last November's election?

 

[nat4900]

The only "hallmarks" are illustrated in a crazy angry and incoherent left that wants to turn a non issue into a federal case. What's gonna happen when the independent investigation uncovers evidence that the Obama/Clinton partnership paved the way for Bill's "international Clinton Foundation outreach" to get rich? Are we going to have to open federal PTSD compensation for blathering left wing idiots who still can't accept the results of last November's election?

Like clockwork, another right wing moron CANNOT defend the orange piece of lard.....so, as instructed, brings up Clinton and Obama......

What a bunch of assholes......bless their hearts.....LOL

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

By intelligence expert Rolf Mowatt-Larseen

Everything we know about the meeting — from whom it involved to how it was set up to how it unfolded — is in line with what intelligence analysts would expect an overture in a Russian influence operation to look like. It bears all the hallmarks of a professionally planned, carefully orchestrated intelligence soft pitch designed to gauge receptivity, while leaving room for plausible deniability in case the approach is rejected. And the Trump campaign’s willingness to take the meeting — and, more important, its failure to report the episode to U.S. authorities — may have been exactly the green light Russia was looking for to launch a more aggressive phase of intervention in the U.S. election campaign. [...]

From the Russian perspective, the fact that Trump Jr. agreed to the meeting would have been the first promising sign. That veteran political operative Paul Manafort and senior adviser Jared Kushner showed up with him would have furthered the impression that there was strong interest in Russian assistance (and vulnerability to compromise) on the part of the campaign. But, according to standard espionage tradecraft, the most notable achievement of this encounter lay in the campaign’s failure to report it to the appropriate U.S. authorities — as Russia would have known when there was no immediate, dramatic increase in U.S. counterintelligence scrutiny of its election-related operations.

As for why the initial emails so bluntly stated that the contact was part of a Russian government initiative—putting the most incendiary aspect of the meeting in plain text, from the beginning, he suspects it was “to avoid the possibility that [the] offer might be misconstrued, perhaps naively, as an innocent gesture of support and nothing more.” By making it explicit, the Putin government could be assured Trump would have “a full appreciation” for their role in an upcoming victory.

Don't pretend like you don't know you have to link to your source. Thread closed